My favorite part of Max Payne 3 was the flashback to Hoboken. Max killing that mob bosses' son was so iconic imo. Also the final shootout in the airport with Tears blasting in the background is so memorable. It's one of the memories that sticks with me even after so long. Also if you listen to the lyrics of the song it can be applied to Max's wife speaking to him from beyond the grave. "It's time to let me go. Give up on us. Follow what you want. Your memories are wrong. Save us once." I still listen to that song. Love the video and looking forward to your next work!

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't actually know the lyrics! That's amazing, it's such a badass song and when it drops in the airport scene it gives you goosebumps. The Hoboken levels were so good as well, another person commented saying that the whole game should've been constructed around the Hoboken design and I agree. Maybe more flashbacks, or just have a larger focus on Max's roots. Thanks homie 🤙

@michaelarmellino8334

3 жыл бұрын

Straight up was my favourite part too

@KH0LRA

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing their graves there too was also another thing I liked tbh, Vinnie Gognitti probably not having most of himself being buried there lol Also TEARS (and PAIN) are the best in the score hands down 🙇🏻‍♀️

@elilennon1678

2 жыл бұрын

The flash back was the best part of the game it was the game I wanted it to be

@Turismoshepard

2 жыл бұрын

If you love the song Tears, you might like the GTA Video I made of it on my channel. Shameless plug😁

"You'll walk with a limp." Is a bad ass fucking line

@esteemedyams

Жыл бұрын

And it's a delicious twist on that old trope where the good guy lets the bad guy live but then he has to kill him anyway because he pulls out a secret weapon or whatever.

@BrandonFlint-ro2ns

3 ай бұрын

And he snaps the dude's leg in half. Brutal.

@carlpissatto1198

2 ай бұрын

No its just a bad line

@painfully-q2w

Ай бұрын

@@carlpissatto1198 why it is bad?

As much as I love this series and especially Max Payne 3, I don’t think a fourth game is warranted with how the last one ends. Max fought through the darkness of the first only to find no relief, tried to find love and again was left with nothing by the end of the second game, and in trying to escape his past in the third, he finally is given the light at the end of the tunnel that he had spent the last twenty some-odd years fighting for. Max deserves his retirement. He deserves to live in the sun after wallowing for so long in the dark.

@ghostalk2em159

2 жыл бұрын

Bro to be honest I'll be happy to get one but I'm good 👍doe I'm not really interested in it but love the series doe they need me make a new street crimes series

@olzhas1one755

2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone who agrees on this. I mean, even the first game wrapped up nicely, but Max Payne 3 isn't too bad.

@yeihernandez5012

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, otherwise it would feel like Punisher. It would be better a remake trilogy.

@monstergonads11

5 ай бұрын

I agree 3 left off perfect. I don’t really want to see poor max get dragged through hell a 4th time lol. I’m not really expecting it to be that great either. When you have 3 incredible games in a row you just can’t really expect the 4th one to top it’s predecessors, just feels very likely it will be a little washed up and dragged out.

I really liked the cutscenes in Max Payne 3. They're expertly directed and well put together. They're there mostly to hide loading screens, but they do get repetitive since you can't skip a lot of them. The "Mona business" and other shenanigans from the first game get mentioned in chapter 8 if you choose to interact with the tomb stones.

@constantinezh7156

2 жыл бұрын

Cutscenes are not expertly directed. The beginning was ok, but then they're just over-using aberration and random floating text from the dialogues in every single cutscene. Not for artistic value or purpose, just for style, and yeah it gets boring and repeptitive. Unskippable cutscenes are the reason I only played this game twice, whilst Max Payne 1 and 2 I have finished like 10 times.

@brysonbridges1496

2 жыл бұрын

Cutscenes suck in this game, the glitchy screen affect gets annoying after the 100th time it’s used

@K1LL3Rm0nkay

2 жыл бұрын

I dont mind the cutscenes, there are just WAAAAYYYY too many. The game screeches to a hault every few minutes for a cutscene. I wish they put more of the cutscene content in gameplay.

@WM-mu8ep

2 жыл бұрын

I know this video is like a year old but that's not the point. People have said for years since 3 came out that the cutscenes were tedious. If someone doesnt care about a story they shouldn't have to watch it in any game if they just want the gameplay. That should be a individual's choice. It's not just that though I didnt like 3s gameplay and cover system

@jonathanbirch2022

Жыл бұрын

I hate the control of the character being taken away from me every 3 minutes. There’s even a cutscene for Max climbing a ladder for crying out loud

Max Payne 1: Snow Max Payne 2: Rain Max Payne 3: Sun

@RobertEdwinHouse9

Жыл бұрын

That why max Payne 2 is the best and 3 the worst

@UnskippableCinematic5875

Жыл бұрын

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 Yes and no.

@danielgeronimo5538

Жыл бұрын

*sun everywhere else dark in some place else

@Endru85x

Жыл бұрын

More like : Sun that covers the filth, corruption and nasty places that are not that far from what Max seen on daily basis.

@christian.xavier.villagran

4 ай бұрын

@@RobertEdwinHouse9moron its got it all.

Max payne 3 had a 3 part comic series released for free that explains some of the things that happened between max payne 2 and 3, Mona got on to opening a hotel(as seen in a TV ad), Jim bravura got a heart attack and had to let max go from the department after the scandal of him killing a(Later discovered to be a corrupt cop) detective, and going on a mob murdering spree, they did leave him with a bit of money that max had been living off of.

@bigwavesun

2 жыл бұрын

They should've included that back story into the game. Would've made more sense, but still very weird considering he finds peace at the end of the second game. Oh well.

@trupaozbornowie9513

2 жыл бұрын

Mona died homie its mentioned in the comic and in the "Ain't No Reprievement Gonna Be Found Otherwise" chapter , that hotel thing is just a reference/maybe a sanity slippage. Max even says that he might be losing it.

@AydarBMSTU

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the thing that's required to be in the game, sure, take it out

@arkanjoteixeira

2 жыл бұрын

And believe it or not, Sam Lake co-wrote these comics.

@3ShotTGK

2 жыл бұрын

I had the comic series and if I remember correctly it ends as soon as Max pulled the gun on DeMarcos kid

I think Dan Houser loved and respected the character so much that he wanted to give the old hardass his walk into the sunset. Love that song and scene, gets me every time

Max Payne 3 didn't get the love it deserves It is one of my all time favourite game🖤

@nothingforyouhere418

2 жыл бұрын

Max payne is my favorite and i didnt particularly like 3 because of the reasons in this video

@SICK47

2 жыл бұрын

@@nothingforyouhere418 yeah you're on crack max payne is great game and all grew up playing 1 and 2 on the ps2 but max payne 3 has the best shooting mechanics for any 3rd person action shooter.

@robert779

2 жыл бұрын

@@nothingforyouhere418 Max Payne 3 is the best of the trilogy because of Health’s soundtrack ALONE!

@WM-mu8ep

2 жыл бұрын

I didnt like max payne 3. I loved the first 2 max Payne's. I also loved wet and the f.e.a.r. trilogy. Hated max payne 3 though.

@axd2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@robert779 LoL, you are a kid

Dan houser is a great writer but sam lake understood who max payne was as a character better. I wish he wrote max payne 3 instead of houser. We could’ve potentially gotten the greatest trilogy in gaming history.

@ivan_vulic

2 жыл бұрын

Changing the writer makes less than 0 sense. Imagine someone other than J.K Rowling writing the last book of Harry Potter. Nobody would've acknowledged it as official since no "law" or "paper" can claim that someone other than you is "the parent of your baby."

@Garland846

9 ай бұрын

I think Max is largely accurate in personality and motivations, the dialogue is just less poetic and more crude and cynical

@erminioottone1344

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@Garland846accurate? Max Payne 2 literally ends with Max being in peace with his past and being mentally stable. Max Payne 3 is a great game, but we can say the truth: it's one of the best shooter ever made and one of the worst sequel ever. Rockstar wanted to make Man on Fire: The Game and also wanted to give a realist and crude portrait of Brazil situation, they had the Max Payne IP in their portfolio and they thought it would be cool to have the Man on Fire game set in Brazil with the bullet time mechanic from Max Payne. They regressed the character to fit the Man on Fire adaptation, they watched Elite Squad and Max Payne 3 was born (story wise of course). Yes, the monologues are there but the writing is totally different, he simply isn't the same person. I mean, at that point they were free to do whatever they wanted with the franchise, but it's objective that every choice made with Max Payne 3 only answered to Rockstar needs, with very little concern about the first two games. I understand the shifts from Remedy's style in terms of tone, atmosphere, setting and plot, Rockstar had to have their take and put their DNA and vision in the game, but it was the bare minimum to expect at least consistency with the character development from the the first two game.

@SlurpyPie

6 ай бұрын

I still think it's a great trilogy but Sam should've definitely been the main writer considering how well he understood Max. Not to discredit Dan at all considering how many incredible stories he's written hell even tho I have my problems with MP3's story it's still pretty decent and what it tries to do in terms of its themes and all is nothing short of incredible but it would've been even better if they included Sam. Hopefully if they decide to remake MP3 just like the first two games Sam could polish up the story a bit more and then it'd be basically perfect imo

5:22 she is mentioned in intro cutscene for cementery level as is detective Winters when you investigate tombstone in the same level.

Hoboken´s chapters, specifically the cemetery part for me is one of the most Max Payne´s moment on this game, specially with the music " Dead " by Health with the baby´s cries in background. Separate point, Sam Lake is a genius.

at the time when MP3 was about to be released, marvel comics released a tie-in written by sam lake. in the comic it showed what happened after the events of MP2 and what happened before MP3 begins. you also get a peek of max childhood in the comic. it was a short but interesting series.

@AydarBMSTU

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the thing that's required to be in the game, sure, take it out

@MerlautZone

Жыл бұрын

It was co-written by Dan Houser who had reached out to Sam to write the earlier portions of Max's life.

@matthewbyrd810

Жыл бұрын

It would've been cool for them to incorporate this as a graphic novel cutscene like the ones they used in the first Gane

mona is referenced in MP3, you can find her grave in the cemetery. and also the little jersey shore reject that max puts a bullet in in the bar flashback also mentions him being involved with killers (another reference to his romance with mona).

@buzzsawgr81

2 жыл бұрын

@Samuel Giam there are 3 graves you can interact with, winterson's, vinnie's, and mona's.

I love all 3 Max Payne games but my favourite is definitely this one. The story is great, graphics hold up extremely well even today, the shooting mechanics are still unbeaten when it comes to third person shooters in my opinion and that airport level combined with Tears gives me goosebumps every single time I play it. I have no idea how many times I already completed it but I always come back to it at least once a year

@axd2312

2 жыл бұрын

Really? The story of MP3 is great? I'm sorry bro but you don't seem to know much about storytelling and narrative. All you care about is Graphics.

@MarkoVuckovic32

2 жыл бұрын

@@axd2312 I do not care only about graphics, the shooting mechanics are amazing as well and story may not be the best ever but it's not bad either also Max's monologue described his character perfectly in my opinion, it is a bit sarcastic, occasionally fun and maybe even relatable from time to time.

@axd2312

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarkoVuckovic32 Alright bro, i understand. But according to me, as far as the story is concerned, maxpayne 1 and 2 were great.

@taw4527

9 ай бұрын

Max Payne 3 on PC is the greatest 3rd person shooter of all time. the combat and gunplay are unmatched to this day

That intro hits different now that Dan left Rockstar. His writing is legendary

@nild9153

2 жыл бұрын

Mediocre at best honestly

@-.stranger.-

2 жыл бұрын

@@nild9153 couldn't agree more

@MerlautZone

Жыл бұрын

@@nild9153 Considering GTA IV or Niko Bellic alone, I can't agree. Dan's style just didn't fit Max Payne as good.

@bipstymcbipste5641

Жыл бұрын

@@MerlautZone Yeah, he's a great writer. I think the GTA games all show it but Max Payne is not his style

I get your points. I've never played the other two. They totally went with the grainy VHS look on this one. I feel that someone was sold on this game as a R* version of Kane and Lynch. Haha

@gagejohnathan9641

2 жыл бұрын

And it paid off. Lot better than Kane and Lynch themselves

@HelterSeltzer_the_one

2 жыл бұрын

@@gagejohnathan9641 yeah. Max Payne 3 was a good game. But I also understand the video's points and how he feels it is a disconnect.

@MerlautZone

Жыл бұрын

I woulda loved if R* had given Kane & Lynch a go since Square Enix clearly aren't gonna do more with the IP. : (

Man, your videos are incredibly well made and you continually improve and outdo yourself. Keep it up and I swear the sky is the limit for you. I've even put you on my featured channel list because I want as many people as possible to come across your channel. Fantastic work and I look forward to what's next. Hope all is well with you. :)

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

Damn man, thank you! I am honored. Much love dude

What would do great is a full on remake of the first two games but with the mechanics of 3. Leave the story, the comic book style cutscenes intact and just revamp the games.

@bigkmoviesandgames

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I really wish that the third game had the comic-book style cutscenes because waiting for the damn game to load as I was waiting to skip the cutscenes on my playthroughs was so annoying.

@saurabhgogoi340

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@brandonplaisted8194

2 жыл бұрын

Just don't have grove street games do it as seen in the gta trilogy Remastered.

@bigkmoviesandgames

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonplaisted8194 preferably remedy could make it.

@wetalkinb0utpractice

2 жыл бұрын

You're getting what you wanted

Mona is mentioned in Max Payne 3 in the graveyard level. You just gotta know wich grave stone to click on. Also you could play as her in the multiplayer.

@WestCoastGamer64

2 жыл бұрын

That and Sam Houser and Sam Lake wrote a 3 part comic mini series, going over Max’s back story and everything else building up to the first flashback mission in MP3.

@gabrielgicuta8538

10 ай бұрын

Yes,only a sentence.that is too bad.

Love your take in these vids! Your definitely my favorite new discovery!

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

♥️ Thanks so much

I'm really getting into your channel, since i found it the other day. This is some quality content about some of my favorite gaming memories. You covered every rockstar game that flew undeservedly under the radar... You're on an interesting journey.

@MrHammers

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! Glad you like it

Extremely low amount of views for such a well crafted video, dont be discouraged tho you'll for sure find your audience in time Edit: nevermind seems you already have XD

2:35 the soundtrack bangs so hard......you should take a look at Kane and Lynch it’s basically the low budget Max Payne.

@thewarriors3048

2 жыл бұрын

Kane & Lynch is an ugly game.

@we-must-live

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewarriors3048 "kane & lynch is an utterly irredeemable game."

@michaeldaley724

2 жыл бұрын

Kane and Lynch is Max Payne if he took a lot of cocaine

@lucaswibisono1316

2 жыл бұрын

And it hit hard. As in you can't shoot straight.

5:10 Mona's grave can be found in the graveyard sequence and max makes some depressing remark about it

Mona, winterson, vinnie gognitti, and punchanelo were all mentioned in max payne.

The title makes no sense - Max Payne 3 *is* part of the trilogy.

@MaynardCrow

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't feel like it belongs in a trilogy with the other two games.

@yonimeller

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaynardCrow Sure, but it's a disconnect from a trilogy. That would only work if there were three previous games (a trilogy) and it didn't belong with them.

Mona is mentioned. When max is reminiscing at his wife and daughters grave

I won't pretend to like the first two games as MUCH as I do the third, but I get that's more to do with me than the games themselves. I like to play MP3 every year or two, if only because it's such a good trip.

@SaberRexZealot

2 жыл бұрын

I think Max Payne 2 has aged incredibly well personally. 3 was always my favorite but revisiting 2 gave me pause. They’re both incredible fun. 1 is more rough around the edges.

@thepassingstatic6268

Жыл бұрын

@SaberRexZealot yeah. I think it's because of the canned death animations in MP1. Even down to the explosions, you would always fly though the air the exact same way. I liked MP3 alot, but I do see people's point about how this doesn't truly capture that noir feel. I felt like I was playing through a Michael Mann film, and I say that as a postive

So, I saw you video in recomended and I liked it. Also you motivated me to playe Max Payne 3, though I haven't played 1 and 2. I'll do it eventually, anyway thanks for video!

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Max Payne 3 is amazing all on its own, no need to play the first 2 at all, I highly recommend them, but I understand a lot of people may be turned off by the dates graphics and such. Have fun with Max Payne 3!

@Fire_wallaby

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrHammers well, I don't care about graphics, I like retrogaming, and I'm playing a lot of old games of ps1-ps2 era. Though yeah, sometimes it might be problems with gameplay but this is other question already.

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

Oh nice! Ps1-ps2 era had some of the best games there is. Games I grew up with haha

This is a great review to wrap up three of my favorite games ever. Great work on the videos man. Also, do you have a reference for Remedy saying Mona surviving was canon? I'm curious about it.

Hell yes been waiting for this! 😀

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks fam

It would be amazing if Remedy bought back the rights to Max Payne. Those first two games are some of the best narrative driven third person shooters ever. OG Max Payne especially is a true classic. The dark noir theme, Max's overly poetic storytelling coupled with the 4th wall breaks were hilarious and a very memorable

@Densiozo

2 жыл бұрын

I don't like 3 and I still don't like. I really wish Remedy didn't sell Max Payne to Rockstar. The story is pretty basic, you know right from the start that it's a member of the family that did the bullshit. I only liked the throwbacks part. The game is not funny, too serious. Max Payne 1&2 were tragic, noire and funny at the same time. Alan Wake feels mord like Max Payne than Max Payne 3

@brandonwooldridge1877

2 жыл бұрын

@@Densiozo I never played Max Payne 3 but based off the footage Ive seen it looks fun. Too many cutscenes though

@Densiozo

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonwooldridge1877 Just play Max Payne 1&2 and their mods. It's more fun

Love Max Payne 3, it’s a masterpiece to me. Loved the combat, environment, gang wars was awesome & lots of fun, the unlockable cosmetics were cool, my favorites were the demonic skulls & absolutely will always love the soundtrack! I still fire it up from time to time just for the atmosphere. 🍻 To Max Payne!

Being the first I played in the trilogy, I have to say it's a perfect and awesome game...now I wait for the remake of 1 and 2

BTW, Rockstar DID acknowledge the events of MP2 in a graphic novel that serves as a prequel to MP3.

It actually was the first game that took me a second chance to love! the difference shook me but as I played it again but I actually grew to love it as it is, despite how retcon it felt to me in terms of the series' established identity and lore. it stands on its own and I agree with that consensus. I can get with the rest of the story (they tried to be different and I really appreciate that) but it actually pissed me off how Max brushed off Mona like that despite how remarkable her prescence was to her in the second game. She was a big help to your identity crisis but go off I guess? Still love his character though

Nice Fallout 3/NV computer sounds in the opening sequence! I'm currently replaying New Vegas so it jumped right out at me.

What an awesome, well done video. You touched on my biggest issue with the game, the cutscenes. It makes replaying a chore as I'm going through the trilogy again. Still pretty cool that the worst game is still a phenomenal game tho

Honestly, the game is AWESOME, I’d give anything to play it. It should be re-released on current and next gen consoles.

@Disissid19

2 жыл бұрын

It should be given mouse and keyboard support. It can be very punishing on controller

@jbk19xx57

2 жыл бұрын

@@Disissid19 Yes in some cases.

@chiefr9627

2 жыл бұрын

@@Disissid19 It's on PC. You just have to put up with Rockstar Social Club. Honestly the shooting and mechanics are pretty on point.

@TazZ243

2 жыл бұрын

You can play it on next gen.

I like the charm of 3 of the dirty brutal parts of Brazil where it's last place you want to be and the shoddy camera effects with the glitch adds to the dirty and ugly feel of the game it's going for, it's one place max didn't want to be and it shows

Loved the video! Like Journey awaits said, you should check or make a video about Kane and Lynch! Love those 'grungy' games, it shows the real state of the world.

That airport level really reminds me of a certain MW2 mission....

They do mention Mona sax when you find the detective’s grave

Great vid new sub 👍🏾

I think it's one of the best games ever made .

Rest in peace James Mccafrey.

Mona business was mentioned in the game. They went with the ending where she died.

watching that airport scene here was engrossing, thank u

the shooting in this game is so great but being interrupted every 5 seconds by a cutscene of a bad guy opening a door fucks me up every time

I honestly felt like the Max Payne portrayal in this game was what let it down the most in terms of being a strong title in the series. For example, he's a seasoned detective, and yet he can't put 2 and 2 together that he's being used until the very end of the game? Seemed ridiculous, and just a way to piece the plot together more conveniently. Plus the charm of Max Payne's noir-esque one-liners and cheesy wisecracks was what really made Payne such a memorable and irreverent protagonist, and it's replaced by what feels like a cheap imitation of those tropes (read: crass and expletive-laden). Having said that, I really enjoyed the game itself.

@carnagepool7564

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, he was drinking and popping pills for the majority of the game. Not exactly gonna solve any cases on that stuff.

@hatman3636

3 жыл бұрын

@@carnagepool7564 If he’s sober enough to pick up a gun, he should be sober enough to see the writing on the wall with Paso et al.

@carnagepool7564

3 жыл бұрын

@@hatman3636 a lot of people use guns while under the influence, the fuck?

@ethandinchong32

2 жыл бұрын

@@carnagepool7564 he doesn’t understand who max payne is. Bro sees himself as a failure, hes far from perfect.

@unimportant719

Ай бұрын

Pretty late to the party, but seems that Max is Sorta autopiloting for the whole time he is in San Paulo until he gets to talk to De Silva. He says that he never stopped to think about what was going on during the mission in Panama he was so disconnected that he was there only to get payed and disappear when he could retire essentially.

Mona IS mentioned, but briefly. When Max is saying his goodbyes to his family, he mentions her, but doesn't exactly say which of the two endings of the second game was canon.

Max Payne 3 was my first Max Payne, but I agree with you, I’ve re played this game like 100 times & I love the gameplay, but the story writing is so much better in MP 1 & 2.

Max Payne 3's greatest flaw is that feels like a Rockstar game in story, direction, and gameplay instead of a Remedy game. I hope now that there is a Remake of the first two games coming out by Remedy - Hopefully that is still happening RIP James McCaffrey - that Remedy does their own Redux of 3.

@BrandonFlint-ro2ns

3 ай бұрын

The Remakes are still happening don't worry. It's just got a ways to go yet.

Sam Lake as Max was Iconic, Timothy Gibbs and James McCaffrey, the latter also being the voice, were exceptional at visually being Max, but it was Sam Lake who wrote Max Payne the best, he made Max Payne even more depressing than GTA IV, and that was the story and atmosphere of Max Payne all the time. It wasn't the actor, it was the writer, Dan Houser was good writer, especially when you look at games like the more famous GTA series, but Max Payne 3 just felt like GTA V in mood, it lost the iconic Depression that Lake had put into the game

The song playing at the airport was dope as fuck, damn.....

Great video

It’s so underrated . I like it AS much as the original 2 games and would love to see it out again

When you mentioned games left in the dust Smugglers Run belonged there too. But nobody ever remembers Smugglers Run 😢

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

I remember smugglers run!! 😉

@SickBoyOC

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrHammers you're one of the few man not one video covering Rockstar's legacy do people mention Smugglers Run but they were so much fun! Respect man you earned a sub from me been watching your vids I like them

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks my guy, much appreciated

Can I get a link to Remedy confirming that Mona Sax surviving is canon?

5:16 FR BRO!? I'm just learning this. Thanks.

Ah yes, the "it's a good game, it's just not a good Max Payne game" take. How brave.

@we-must-live

2 жыл бұрын

ha. really though, i think max payne 3's ending is quite fitting for the series: you've been playing as a traumatized, hard boiled af, nihilistic shell of a man - spouting more noir-istic one-liners than physically capable from any other, non-maxpayne protagonist. every other ending of the series has max spouting some hopeful words for the future, yet... it never feels like the end (even though it does, know what i mean?). for example, 1 ends on a high note - max has got his revenge and is no longer haunted by his 'ghosts', but we know there are still unresolved plot points, stories and a lot more. 2 capitalized on that, and introduced us to a whole new tale, 'max and mona, sitting in a tree, K.I.L.L.I.N.G!' - but, by the end, there's still the unknown status of mona, and even though max seems utterly content, there's still a lingering thought in the back of your mind that says he could do more. guess that's what lead to 3. and for 3, there's no cinematic sendoff - max isn't shoved back into the police car and his life of detectivism, neither is he embraced by his lover, dead or alive... max just watches the aftermath of his actions, and for once in his hard-boiled-to-the-point-of-inedibility life... he doesn't say anything. because there is no more to say - max payne is over, and his legacy will be remembered forever... like an beach sunrise after a hard day of work. max payne: a man who has felt an extreme amount of loss, regret and overall pain (perhaps to the maximum extent), yet manages to turn that pain into something positive for the world at large.

@jernie9384

2 жыл бұрын

@@we-must-live I just thought that all of that already happened in part 2 so it’s more or less a repetition of the same narrative. Max experiencing loss and trauma only to realise that he can’t change the past nor fight against his grieve. You could say that was the whole Redon they implemented mona in the first place. I absolutely love 3, but „great game, not so great sequel“ fits the bill perfectly.

@habadasheryjones

2 жыл бұрын

You mean the opinion that amounts to "I wanted the same setting as the first two games, the exact same characters as the first two and I want nothing to be new or different ever despite an entirely different developer." That's all I ever hear. "It betrays Max Payne as a character and a franchise yaddayadda." You already got two games with your long noir york nights and your graphic novel cutscenes. Two games where Max is the same guy, free of any meaningful change or development. I love those games more than most but a change for 3 was super necessary. The hate for a bald Max Payne walking around Sao Paulo just goes to show that people were too hung up on aesthetics to notice it never betrays Max's character. It finishes his arc from a stale cynical drunk believing his own fatalistic fantasy to man who not only free from his demons but reclaimed a sense of agency in his life as well. I feel strongly that another long snowy night in New York, capping greaseballs again, where Max either dies at the end or doesn't change full stop would have been as faithful a sequel as it would have been feverishly bland. Dead Space 3 bland. Videogame sequels should aspire to be more than "just play the greatest hits again in a shinier engine." When I hear people say Max Payne 3 is a bad sequel what they really mean is it was an unsafe sequel that challenged their expectations of a third game beyond their comfort zone.

@AydarBMSTU

2 жыл бұрын

@@habadasheryjones gonna cry?

@habadasheryjones

2 жыл бұрын

@@AydarBMSTU gonna contribute to the discourse at all, troll?

One of my favorite game series. The writing, tone, action, are all spot on. Such memorable and quotable games, you just have to love max’s character too. As serious and dark as it is, it also has the perfect air of lightheartedness to it to make it stand out from others. Supreme blend

Mr hammers smashes in once again! It has been a while but glad to see you put the cherry on this max Payne retrospective cake. Great work bro this is fantastic.

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks my dude. Much appreciated, it feels good to conclude this series

It's not like Max doesn't remember, it's that he's in witness protection!

@abadi12416

3 жыл бұрын

Matto will be in your nightmare 😂

RIP James McCaffrey

I love the seriousness & I don't think the lack of comic panels is a bad thing in my opinion.What happens to Mona is definitely puzzling though,although I think there's a vague comment made about her from Max but i can't remember what it was.

Excuse me? Mona Sax survives? What the actual fuck. It made sense to me that Max didn't wanna talk about Mona aside from mentioning her when visiting the grave of his family. But if her survival is canon than... yea, that's ood. In any case. The depature in style and setting was in my eyes a very neat idea that was executed mostly well. Throwing Max into the unknown serves as the twisted holiday perfect for the years of midlife crisis he's been living through with no relief in sight other painkillers and booze. And the glitch effects do serve a purpose aswell. They underline the sheer amount of drug fueled violence that bang as distorted, noisy memories in Max's head. But aside from stellar action gameplay and the beautiful ugliness of this game I just loved that Max finally and actually won (again, didn't know about Mona...). He can now leave the past behind him. Just like lyrics of TEARS urged him to do.

@reyjimenz

6 ай бұрын

It's not canon

Max does mention Mona in Max Payne 3. He mentions her when he is at the gravesite of his family ...... someone needs to do a playthrough again lol

I feel that the max payne trilogy emulates the evolution of the action movie genre. With Max Payne, it was an homage to cheesy Hong-Kong action movies, it didn't take itself very seriously, and had some ridiculous elements, like the goofy facial expressions and dialogue. Max Payne 2 obviously had a more noir aesthetic, the game took itself more seriously, and was overall more realistic and less silly than the first game. Max Payne 3 is like a more modern action movie, right down to the gameplay, first of all, the story takes itself very seriously, and the game is far more gritty and violent than the first 2 games. It also has modern action flick style set pieces, boat chases, explosions, crushing people with vehicles, shooting grenades, and ziplining while mowing down enemies.

whats the song at the airport help i looked everywhere

8:26 does anyone know the name of this song? shazam cant seem to find it

That’s part you have up at the 8 min mark is exactly when I stopped playing . Lol my fault partly I had it on the highest difficulty. I’ll get back to it one day 😢

Max Payne 3 is still my only experience with the franchise. My local game shop had like over a dozen used copies of it for the 360 so I bought it on a whim for like 4 bucks. I found it to be a really frustrating experience and didn't have the patience to finish it. If I had paid more for it I probably would have stuck it out but I just said screw it and instead played through the other game I bought that day, The Evil Within.

Tasty, man! Very tasty! Perfect representation of the subject matter! I was there for Remedy’s seedier days, and when i saw you threw up a Max Payne Retrospect, I’m happy to say you delivered on every point i felt deserved spotlight. Well written, engaging, respectful of the subject while engaging in areas that deserve criticism of their dissonance.. a damn fine video, man! Im about to chew on Your Max Payne “Defying All Odds” Retrospect!

I mean yeah Max Payne 3 feels like it's disconnected because it's disconnected. It takes place in a different city with different people that speak different language so as the player and the character you feel disconnected, you don't know what's going on you don't know who's is who and that's what Rockstar was aiming to achieve. Even Max have lines about him feeling like a fish out of water. Solid video anyways appreciate your work.

Haven’t played this since I was like 13, definitely time for a 3rd playthrough!

First max Payne game I played in 5th grade 2012 . 360 double disc man this game is a underrated classic hope Xbox could have this backwards compatible or on game pass

This was a great send off to Max. Even though this series doesn’t NEED a sequel, a remaster would be nice in the future.

Ive finished max payne 3 about like 3 times already and I still go back and replay the whole story Its one of my favorite games.

5:20 she's briefly mentioned a few times

Can you provide the source for Mona's death not being canon? I've heard (although I can't find any legitimate sources) and assumed that she dies considering it's the default ending and her being alive is only unlocked by beating it for the third time on the hardest difficulty. Also, I'm guessing you don't know about the comics? They explain a bunch of what you say is never explained.

@robbyraystewart6978

3 жыл бұрын

Great set of videos, by the way man

@MrHammers

3 жыл бұрын

I swear I found an interview with Lake talking about Mona and which ending is canon, but I can't find it now. Maybe I am mistaken though. Even in the ending where she dies Max comes to peace with his family's death, and he feels at peace and in Max Payne 3 he is distraught and still haunted by it. No proper follow up either way, I do feel silly though about saying it's canon- I'll keep looking for where I found that. And no I haven't seen the comics, I'll have to search for those as well and check em out. Thanks dude!

@robbyraystewart6978

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrHammers I've seen that critisism alot about how he's finally at peace at the end of the second game and how it's thrown out the window for the third game, and I agree to a certain extent, but the same thing happens between the first and second game. At the end of the first game Max says that "his demons released him from his haunting" and that "the ragged clouds gave way to the stars above" after he gets his revenge. This seems to suggest that he's now at peace with himself, however, in the comic strip Max Payne's Past in the menu of Max Payne 2 he says that he was lying to himself and that it wasn't over yet. So to me it's not out of character or even that strange that, even after MP2s ending, Max still can't get over all the tragedies in his life and falls back into his depression. Anyway, your content is pretty good and I'm sure you will blow up one day, good luck!!

@sublime90

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbyraystewart6978 i agree. its not a stretch to see why max might not ever be over his wife and kid being murdered. but it would be interesting to see why and who he'd be fighting in a 4th game.

@hatman3636

3 жыл бұрын

@@sublime90 Max Payne must have enough PTSD to fill up 100 psychiatrist's offices.

Missed college for a week to beat this game in the highest difficulty even tho never played it before

Max did shoot his fellow detective but she was corrupt and working for the cleaners right?

I totally agree about the story not feeling like the origal two Max Paynes. They should have went Noir with it. I would understand not going the dark noir setting if the game realesed only 3 or 4 years after the 2nd one, but this was 9 years later. It didnt need to feel new and fresh. It needed that nostalgia feeling of what we loved about Max Payne. I just hope they do a 4th one eventually. I just wish Remedy would be contracted out to do it, but that i know wouldnt happen. A dude can wish :)

Max Payne IMHO doesn't need a sequel. What else is there for him to do? I think the 3 we have are more than enough, and I definitely understand what you mean when you say there's a disconnect, but I took that as a part of the overall ambiance. Max is in a WHOLE different part of the world. He's been there for a while and yet he's still a fish out of water. And I do think that they kind of addressed Mona and maybe his family in the game. In the beginning when he's in Mope Mode and he's staring at the picture: we never see what that picture is. We don't know if it's Mona or his wife. And then he says to himself "let it go" let what go? The pain of his past? The pain of Mona? His wife again? That's what I was thinking the 1st time I saw that. I would like to read the comics though, especially since Sam Lake had a hand in making them

I love your videos

There needs to be remakes of Max Payne and Max Payne 2 and a remaster of Max Payne 3

My dad got me into max Payne when I was little with his ps2 then we got the 3 and I loved max Payne 3 and multiplayer

Max Payne series, SpecOps The Line, and Wolfenstein The New Order are the only "serious" video games that I respect.

When I played Max Payne 3, I almost forgot that Max to the Payne in this game is the same character from the other two previous games.

He's just your friendly neighborhood Max Payne

Max Payne 3 is the only game in the series I've finished. I dabbled with 1 and 2 but now I feel like going back, really playing, and finishing them.

Absolutely loved this trilogy of games. Id say its one of my favorite trilogy's around. Oh, and the music for Max Payne 3 done by none other then the band, Health? I can only describe it as a fucking masterpiece! This game made me into a huge Health fan needless to say. You can certainly tell that a lot of blood sweat and tears went into composing that soundtrack.

Great game! Great video!

I remember alot of people not liking this game but I loved it especially the graphics imo it could pass as a modern game with just a little paint lol

I actually like how disconnected it is. I feel like everything that could be said with Max Payne formula was already said with the first two games. If they made the third one be the similar to the two first it'd just feel lazy, they had to take risks and change it up

I cherish and love Max Payne 1. I have mixed feelings about Max Payne 2. I was very apprehensive about Max Payne 3 but in the end I felt like it's not only the best of the trilogy but it also does the character so much justice. Especially in combination with the music. Towards the end, when Tears starts to play... it hits so hard.

What you got wrong is that Mona is briefly mentioned once in the opening Cinematic "I still hadn't forgiven myself for the Mona business but I knew that was in pure grief"

Mona gets mentioned in: Ain't No Reprievement Gonna Be Found Otherwise

Good video