If you're having trouble with animation canceling, I'd recommend using the Don't Starve Alone mod. Things like ping and computer performance drastically affect your ability to animation cancel well. The Don't Starve Alone mod optimizes the game's performance if you're playing by yourself.

@happypotato3985

9 ай бұрын

Thanks didnt know about that

I have to practice that thing, the damage output is unreal. Especially during FW, I guess that's the perfect boss since you have such a small window to actually damage him before he summons unseen hands. I'm kinda shocked by the amount of players who've already mastered the animation cancelling, it's not that easy IMO. Wonderful video guide Jazzy, as usual! :-)

I see the question getting asked; sorry for not including that info in the video. I always play with lag comp turned off but I'll test if this is possible while turned on. I'm assuming that it isn't but I'll check it later and update here.

@caoinhnamkhanh2795

9 ай бұрын

it is absolutely much better, since if you're not playing on your own hosted server, you attack input has delay after inputing wearing armor, making it far worse. it is what is universal, not requiring you to play on hosted server of your own. its basically just hold f, and time your inputs for directional movement (wasd for default keyboards), in my experience clicking makes it worse, since timing a quick press for a button is easier than placing your cursor perfectly in a spot + clicking without moving the cursor (you can lift the mouse off your table/surface but if you need to you and item it'll be more trouble). its lag comp on type of animation cancel that you can see used very often in forge servers. there is another time of animation canceling, of target swapping, its far less useful since ranged weapons suck, and melee attacks usually have poor range and will make your character move if the mob moves making your dps worsem most of the time if you're tanking multiple mobs swamping you you're basically dead anyway but theres a use case for this and its weremoose's mastery slam attack. weremoose can make use of the aoe slam attack and control an area around him if he reaches his 2nd hit in a combo (a combo is ended whenever the attack input is stopped, so you can not animation cancel with lag comp on in this case since you move before attacking again, but you also can not equip different stuff since you got no inventory lol), so in beequeen fight/dragonfly fight he can make use of target swapping and control enemies (could also target nm creatures to get some easy nm fuel/target for target swapping, since they get close to him to attack and never move away if moose doesnt move). it makes it so weremoose combos very well if there is another person around to heal him/drag mobs aggro'd onto them into weremooses slam)

@DrPastah

6 ай бұрын

You should pin this comment.

The man the legend he has returned

@user-kt5no1sg5o

9 ай бұрын

He does a lot of twitch so I recommend watching him

@thintrack5039

9 ай бұрын

It is spelt the man the myth the legend has returned

Uggggghhhhhh now that you made such a clear guide on how to do this, I have no excuse not to 😅 Just like the damn wavedash in SSBM. If I hadn't known about this I wouldn't have had to master it, but now... new learning curve here we come!

@TheAnikasis

9 ай бұрын

😂😂 relatable!

Been wanting to learn how to do this for a while, thanks for the guide!

Been a really long time since i've seen your livestreams, Hope your doing good Jazzy!

I saw a WX w/ 3 Electric Circuits kill FW in like 3-4 minutes by anim canceling with 2 Thulecite Clubs. It was pretty crazy cause it let them kill FW without having to use WP where they otherwise wouldn't really have been able to (or at least not that fast).

@mrgiggio3031

9 ай бұрын

Yes tulecite club is the best weapon to do It cuz It means shadow tentacles quicker

@mrgiggio3031

9 ай бұрын

Its ameslarii video by the way

I have no clue if oyu read this but I am currently doing my own server and your discussions from the march QOL back in 21 ARE SO HELPFUL! Thanks a lot for being an awesome person for the community

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

I read everything. Glad we could help!

Great explanation about "Cancelling Animation" TYSM

i really like this style of videos just kinda discovering a spawn deerclops command half way through uncut nice to see more videos p.s. i can't remember if i inspired you with my Z bind for slot 1 or we just happened to have the same idea on that

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

I stole Joeshmo’s keybinds.

@m3gusta17

9 ай бұрын

@@JazzysGames the man, the myth, the legend :')

@LunarShadowAlt

9 ай бұрын

@@JazzysGames ah sad. i don't get a secret reference Kappa

Do you spam the switch of items or does it need to be specifically timed?

Great guide as always Just wish it was as easy to do console as it is on pc 😞 Also do slower attack animations like beefs or Wanda benefit more from animation cancling than normal attacks or less?

@Wizrad_7

9 ай бұрын

it really depends on how long the different parts of an attack animation last. if the hit registers close to the beginning of the animation, such as with beefalo, it becomes much more beneficial the closer to the hit register that you cancel. regular attacks and whips don't benefit as much as beef imo, but it's certainly a skill worth considering.

Thx for the tip jazzy :D But i have a question :0 Is this possible to do with wanda too ? Since her animation attack takes so looong :|

@mothaiba8020

9 ай бұрын

yes but harder

is it different with wanda's whip since her whip has different attack speeds and stuff?

Hey ive been wondering about animation canceling for wanda any tips for this maybe a video on it?

Man i didn't main wig to learn canceling my attacks 😂 Great video btw am just too lazy to try it on consol

@austygo3563

9 ай бұрын

I feel like the loss of accessory-changing mobility without keybinds on console makes this not worth it, but it depends on the boss

@user-oi8vw9hq1r

9 ай бұрын

@austygo3563 Yeah man 4 me it's just not worth it Plus i am actually really good at this game it's my childhood I can dodge when i need to

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

I believe it was a Wigfrid main who showed me a trick with spam clicking multiple targets to animation cancel as Wig. Think you need lag comp turned on for that to work. Will get back to you on this.

ah so thats why i see players that do those no hit with x character boss kills swap their equipped weapon when they attack. dunno if its possible to do on consoles

Jazzinga!

What mod shows those damage numbers?

You can also animation cancel as the weremoose, however you need to only skip the slam for maximum dps

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

You really get more DPS by skipping the slam?

@caoinhnamkhanh2795

9 ай бұрын

@@JazzysGames the same thing with normal attack animation, the recovery from the slam animation can be canceled into another attack by moving in a directionto stop after the slam dmg has been done

@TheBearestBearBearBear

9 ай бұрын

@@JazzysGames I think I said it in a confusing way. What I meant is that you skip the animation of a slam, not the slam itself

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

Ah thank you, that makes more sense to me!

@BoiledTable

9 ай бұрын

There is also a second form of moose animation canceling where you cancel the animation of every punch, but that’s not really the most useful now that the slam is a thing.

All I'm hoping is that this method potentially getting more popular does not mean that it gets changed or patched or anything.

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

Doubtful. It’s been in the game since the beginning and locking characters into animations would be disastrous to players with latency.

@Left4Sharkbait

9 ай бұрын

@@JazzysGames I mean they did make some changes that made animation cancelling (Specifically with the "move to cancel" method) a lot worse maybe a year ago, around the WX refresh. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it's pretty easy to break. I also think it could be removed without locking by making it so you can't swap in anims or whatever. If Klei wanted to, they could totally find a way to get rid of it.

Okay so real question I've come to ask... what exactly is the point of lag compensation? it feels like for standard play, having it on and off doesn't really seem to change anything, but having it on prevents these more... meta? attempts for certain techniques that exploit like... processing an animation or mob processing ect

Off topic, I noticed when you fought deerclops you lost sanity quick, but when I’m fighting it my sanity goes from ~70-120 to 0 in 3 seconds. Am I doing something wrong or is it meant to be like that? I like nightmare fuel and going insane as I play Wanda (and it’s just good in general) but fighting shadow creatures and deerclops at the same time can be pretty tedious.

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

Deerclops has a weird tendency to stand right on top of players, and that sanity aura is strongest at its center. If you can get Clops to stand still and kite around then you can avoid losing too much sanity.

@Xze3

9 ай бұрын

Thought so, I haven't played too often recently but I remember being just in a little closer than attacks reach and was losing sanity instantly which is why I was confused. Especially when I have extra reach with the alarming clock, I don't think I should lose sanity as quickly as I do. Update on that, I went to make a new world and test it out just now, it was deerclops just standing on top of me and I guess I never really noticed that somehow. Thanks a lot for the help!

After 2 months it happened.

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

Missed you too, now go watch the video!

What about Alarming clock attack cancelling?

@mothaiba8020

9 ай бұрын

its just a bit harder

I can't do the animation canceling with the swap items method. I don't know if it is a mod that I am using but when I'm attacking and I change the weapon/armor, the animation does not occur. I can only cancel the animation by walking :/

@gabogabo_8864

7 ай бұрын

I guess I just figured it out: When you have lag compensation on the animation while swaping items does not occur. When you turn it off you can do the cancel animation like in the video. Do you guys always play dst WITHOUT the lag compensation?!?! O_O I've always played with the Lag compensation on!!!!

@JazzysGames

7 ай бұрын

Yeah I had mentioned that in a comment that has since gotten unpinned. Yes, I always have lag comp turned off. It’s just way too frustrating when you’re trying to learn how to properly kite mobs. I hardly notice the slight input delay after a while.

Is this fixed?

How does this change with/without lag compensation?

@caoinhnamkhanh2795

9 ай бұрын

with lag comp on, swapping equips will not work from my testings unless they changed that recently

@mothaiba8020

9 ай бұрын

and with lag com on, u cancel with wasd

Can you cancel attacks with lag comp on?

@GobbyMade21

9 ай бұрын

You should learn how to play with lag comp off imo, but probably yes

@caoinhnamkhanh2795

9 ай бұрын

@@GobbyMade21 once you understand lag comp on is just lying to your face, you can just turn it on in long bosses and turn it off once its over (could time dodges, depending on how laggy and/or how well you time your dodges). thats how i always do it, pretty easy and universal way to do much more dmg

@mothaiba8020

9 ай бұрын

yes but not with armor for weapon swap. U do it with move keys

I drop like because you play wormwood

3:08 for me

More effort = more stress - don't like it at all, feels like exploiting to me. Maybe I'll make some mouse macros for doing this if I do speedruns, but otherwise, I'm ok with less attacking speed.

huh... how about that... guess it's time for cheeky macros Also, this game is ten years old. Has nobody really discovered this before? That would be crazy!

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

Nah it’s been known about for years, I’ve just never seen a guide on how exactly to do it so I figured I’d make one.

@Bloo_M

9 ай бұрын

Makes sense. I don't know why I didn't think of it either. I use the same/similar mechanic, when digging, because the animation takes forever. So, thanks for bringing this to my attention! @@JazzysGames

Imagine doing this wrong and never getting a hit

@JazzysGames

9 ай бұрын

Which is honestly why I don’t do this a whole lot when I’m off my beefalo. I just don’t do it reliably enough to justify attempting. I’m content with beefalo animation cancelling for now.

and then you use a bot to click STONKS!