Mauser Model 71/84 11mm Service Rifle
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This rifle is a ton of fun to shoot although the ammo was a little bit expensive. One very obscure part of the military history that the rifle doesn't get showcased in a detailed fashion. We have a little bit of work to do with the load development but I think in time we can get this rifle shooting very well. I know we have not been posting a ton of content but stay tuned we have a lot on the way in the near future.
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Your rifle has the stamp "Spandau" on it. Which would point out that it was produced in Potsdam near Berlin and was gone through the "Gewehr-Prüfungskommesion" which would translate to rifle trail commision in Berlin "Spandau" (district in Berlin) . That a nice piece of history you got there.
@Clevelandsteamer324
3 ай бұрын
Spandau was also the prison Rudolf Hess was imprisoned in
@drezwider
20 сағат бұрын
Thank you 😊
the M71/84 is NOT a conversion of the M71. There are ZERO compatible parts. These are an entirely new action. The lifter design was copied/inspired by the kropatschek design first utilized by the french navy in 1878. Smokeless rounds were never adopted into military service, they were still loaded with black powder as late as 1916. Smokeless rounds were purely an aftermarket/civilian development. Appreciate the videos and I know not everyone can be as big a 19th century mauser nerd as me. Also, the butt mounted swivel means you have a rare Jager m71/84
@Orkneyshooter
6 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@WaveTheConqueror
4 жыл бұрын
i think it is more like taking a G71 and then making it into an G84. Thats typically how germany does conversions
@poppasquat8483
4 жыл бұрын
@@WaveTheConqueror nope. Still completely different. Refer to German military rifles from the Werder to the 71/84 by Dieter Storz
@WaveTheConqueror
4 жыл бұрын
@@poppasquat8483 was just a guess, in the bigger fact like an anime character said, "if you can hit your target, pretty much any gun will do it"
This single shot version of this rifle was imported by the Irish Volunteers aboard the Asgard, a private yacht owned by the writer Erskine Childers who landed at Howth near Dublin. The "Howth" rifles were used in the 1916 Easter Rising in Dublin. A handful of Irish rebels fighting at Mount Street killed and wounded hundreds of British troops who landed at Kingstown and were advancing on Dublin city centre.
@donallbreathnach9998
8 жыл бұрын
Irish volunteers " Micheal Malone" and I think another named Jimmy Mahon defended house No.25 Northumberland Road from a small window in the upstairs bathroom to stop British troops from moving forward towards Bolands mill using these rifles and very little ammunition. The British regiment they were up against were the Sherwood foresters, armed with the much more modern,advanced & reliable Lee Enfield, but they were mostly recruits, some of them had to be shown how to use their rifles when they got off the boat in Dublin. And as they marched in rows up the street, the volunteers in House 25 opened fire with so much accuracy, the British thought they were under attack from around 50 men, but still the officers ordered them to charge up the street ware 1 by one they were picked off by Micky Malone & Jimmy Mahon, aswell as a handful of volunteers firing from the opposite end of the street. When Tuesday was over..240 British solders lay dead or wounded, the rebels lost just 4 men.
@rontaylor7426
8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel “Aleksandrovich” Walsh The second man in No. 25 was Seamus Grace not Jimmy Mahon who is fictional character in a TV series called Rebellion. Malone and Grace were also armed with handguns including C96 Mauser automatics which were lethal at close range when British raiding parties tried to storm the house.
@cathanmccann1769
3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Ireland and I know alot about the IRA and the volunteers. But I didn't know the rebels used single shots and not repeating
The Irish volunteers had 900 Mauser 71s in the 1916 Easter uprising that they used to some effect. As a song goes "He had no veteran soldiers but volunteers raw, Playing sweet Mauser music for Erin Go Bragh"
@cathanmccann1769
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Irish lol
There is sorrow in me heart oh me auld Howth Gun, we had reacnetly had to part oh me auld Howth gun, there was glorious hopes that we could have set auld Ireland free, but ye parted far from me oh me auld Howth Gun" . This is and old Irish song about the Mauser 71 that was sold to the Irish Volunteers to fight British occupation in 1914 and was used in the 1916 Easter Rising and the Irish War for Independence. The song is on KZread and it was called a Howth Rifle because that is where the Mauser 71 shipment landed.
One of my grail guns. I always wanted one for black powder cartridge shooting. Something to take on the rich snobs with their Sharps rifles.
Correction though, 71/84 arent conversions and most have likely seen no action. Once these were issued, smokeless powder guns came out (Lebel 1887) and Germany had to quickly switch to using the Gew 88. Since alot of these werent used for more than 2 years or unissued they are usually in good condition
I was lucky enough to be at my range when a guy was shooting one of these guns. Turns out he was a retired history teacher and he was letting anyone interested to take a couple of shots with it. His rifle was a from the prussian army. It was in amazing shape and we were shooting a gong at 200 yards off hand. I was amazed at how accurate the rifle was. For a military rifle in the 1880s with a bolt action and having 5-6 rounds without reloading it seemed like it would have been great for its time. Anyway, I really enjoyed watching you guys shoot the 71/84. thanks
I love that you all aren't afraid to shoot these classics. I have a friend that has one of these and has spent some time shooting it out 1000. Wish I could remember his load will have to ask him and get back to you on it. If I remember correctly the original loading used a paper patch bullet of about 380gr or so. I have a Remington NYSM improved in 45-70 that gets lots of attention when I take it to the range just something about shooting a 140 year old rifle that puts a smile on your face.
Wow that gun is awesome, crazy that they had bolt actions that advanced in 1871
@herocommand
10 жыл бұрын
Crazy ? Eh depends on how you see it. The germans or better said at that time the Prussians were the first ones to adopt a '' bolt action'' rifle and it worked rather well for them at the battle of Königgratz.So I don't find it suprising that they improved on it over the years. Especially because the Germans and the French basically had a constant arms race before during and after the Franco - Prussian war.
@redtra236
3 жыл бұрын
This one wasn't introduced until 1884 the 1871 model is a single shot.
Great video brother. Looks like a sweet shooter.
hey guy i have watched for over a year and enjoy and appreciate all the work, I am a gunsmith and have had a 71/84 in my shop the one i had was made in Spandau ,Germany the early versions the 71's had heavier grooves in the barrel than the later 71/84's just a tidbit thanks again
great job on these videos, you've really done a great job articulating what its like to handle and work with these things. Great review.
Once again thanks for the video. These items appear in the odd museum or book but to see them strut their stuff and in colour is a treat.
Mauser M1871 and this 71/84 are two different guns and were never converted. They have different receivers, barrel lenghts, stocks etc., maybe the bolt could be interchangeable.
@jakewesley3318
7 жыл бұрын
oh yeah?
@Pidalin
3 жыл бұрын
Stock looks same, they just added hole for magazine and changed or modified some parts.
@Hidalguense
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one, model 71 single shot. I think its from 1874
Speaking of rare variants. Yours is actually a Jaeger rifle, much more rare than an average 71/84. The sling mount on the buttstock is the give away.
@sheldonmaclennan5843
5 жыл бұрын
I have one with the same sling mount. What is a Jaegar rifle? My father told me his uncle bought it for $2. They came in to Nova Scotia as surplus many years ago.
@kylianvanhoorn2859
3 жыл бұрын
@@sheldonmaclennan5843 jaegers are basically specialized commando troops, like 19th century special forces
@davidgruen7423
3 жыл бұрын
That is clearly not an Jäger. This is the most standard of the standard 71/84. And these guys really don’t know how to load this gun properly, I own one and I always load the chamber first, and I don’t insert the cartridges into the tube unless I am about to load another one, that way I always have one on the elevator so I can shoot immediately instead of having to cycling the bolt twice, extra work all for nothing.
@mauser-wl3uu
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidgruen7423 it’s a Jager, note the rear sling position on the buttstock, it’s the only difference. A standard 71/84’s rear most sling position is on the trigger guard. You’re assuming a B.Mod 71’s features apply to a Gew71/84 Jager, which couldn’t be further from the truth. You should do some reading on these.
I gotta say ive been waiting a week and this gun doesnt disappoint this was a great gun to do and its a beautiful rifle if this is how often and with the beauty of the firearms will be i dont mind waiting a week for a video great job and keep em coming!!!!!!
Great looking rifle!
Your videos about old guns are my favourites, they are so much more interesting to me. Keep it up!
You nailed it on the time of day with this video. Video looks amazing. Nice cameras.
Impressed with the magazine capacity!
I don't remember ever seeing you guys miss this much before.
@oldmanwells710
10 жыл бұрын
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@Gungeek
10 жыл бұрын
Oldman Wells not really lol.
@herocommand
10 жыл бұрын
Oldman Wells Except that the prussians threw away the idea of firing by rank in huge formations after they adopted the dreyse needle rifle in 1841 but whatever right ? I suspect they missed so much because the lowest ''setting'' for the sights is 400 meters
@oldmanwells710
10 жыл бұрын
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@1guyin10
10 жыл бұрын
Notch and blade sights regulated to 400 meters. How could you ask for more than that, right? If you ever spend time with one of these early Mausers you will understand how they could miss so much, especially when your range time with it is measured in a handful of rounds.
Love the gun - love the video. Thanks very much. It would be great in future videos like this if you could do a close-up of the cartridge and the projectile it uses - especially when reloads are so important to shooting it.
I love the rifles you shoot and breakdown. I myself love 8mm mauser, but would love to see you do something about the other mauser rifle bores, like 7mm mauser, and 6.5x 55 swed. Thank you much, you do great work!!!!
Just bought one. Waiting for brass and a mold now. Thanks, great video.
Great vid. Love the military surplus stuff. When r you guys doin another gun tour
Also maybe next time you have one of these old gems out you could show the cartridge to us. Perhaps compared to a modern cartridge like a 5.56 or 308. Please keep up the good work.
@Gungeek
9 жыл бұрын
.43 Mauser Compared With
@redtra236
3 жыл бұрын
It's really similar to a .45-70 performance wise I think the original black powder loads use a slightly larger charge than black powder .45-70s though.
Ive had a couple of these at one time or another. The sights do have a learning curve and they all shoot high! The IG71 shoots even higher lol! Great vid thanks for posting!
@olympicblackpowderrifles3155
5 жыл бұрын
Murphy your Garbage
Dear Eric&CHad! Yet another great milsurp review! Slow and steady, you should be publishing a DVD, title: "Milsurps are forever" or suchsome. This video was a "missing part recovery", the "Gewehr 71" was a much needed, much missed milsurp review. This rifle is the grand-daddy to all bolt action rifles of the Mauser lineage. Thanks a lot, greetings from old Continenent's Hungary!
@edwinlee6864
5 ай бұрын
There was a website that produced a cd book back in the 1990's or so. "Surplus Firearms" or something like that.
this is a loooong gun. very nice piece. and this was high capacity back in the day :)
The sound that the bolt makes when he cycles it is delicious.
our grandfather just handed down a 71/84 to us and this just hyped me up even more to go shoot it!
Eric-3gun & 3gunChad, you two guys are having too much fun!!! Keep it up!
Love to see you guys shoot the m1874/14 Gras in 8 mm Lebel ,,,great video on the 71/84
Cool rifle! Interesting to see how the gun developed from high caliber, low velocity to lower calibers and higher velocities to achieve better performance. Ballistics and Terminal Ballistics is fascinating.
the quality is just so amazing that I have no words for it...
Very good. Like your sharing. Love those old wood and steel historic guns. Yeah man!
Thanks for the video, I read Osprey Publishing's book King's African Rifles Soldier vs Schutztruppe Soldier. And the original weapon used by Schutztruppe askaris was Mauser 1871. Though they changed them to captured Portugugese Mausers when they could as those were more up to date.
that rifle is absolutely beautiful. Mauser really does do a good job
What a beautiful rifle. I still need to get one of those for the collection.
Nice piece. And nice video, quality is exellent. I like close up pan shot.
Love all y'all's videos and I would like to see some paper groups with this great rifle and I would also like to see the reloading for this round. Keep up the good work and the great videos.
Thanks for sharing Eric!
It's the one from the song "Old Howth Gun." Beautiful gun and a fascinating history.
Love the old guns, would like to see some up close of the mechanical function of the actions, especially of the more uncommon ones. Thanks for the video
That's a sweet jewel of a rifle! I would like to see some results on paper! More than that, I want to see reloading practices for it! Any reloading for obscure cartridges is what piques my interests! Eric, you are to blame for this illness! Single handedly the reason I own an 1891 Argentine. Fun gun to shoot and reload for. I only had 2-3 boxes of PPU 7.65x53 so I ended up buying 30-06 brass to use as a parent case. That's where the real fun is!
2:23, that`s my last 4. cool vid`s bro. and i love the sound of the DING :)
Thanks so much for making this! I have one of these!
Im from Finland and i like your videos very much. Keep up the good work.
I love seeing all the old firearms. I have a few but want more, many are hard to find but I can at least see your great videos and you guys firing them. would also like to see maybe a close shot of some of these more obscure bullets. I am fascinated by the old milsurps; being an old milsurp myself........ locoray
Just picked up a beater “project” rifle for $150. Needed cap/stacking swivel, spring and follower...and of course available ammo. Should be a fun winter conservation project.
Cool video. I'd love to see it taken apart and a closer look at the ammunition.
I've learned these early transitional repeaters are sensitive to the barrel heating up. They tend to string round horizontally. However, if you shoot them with a good pause in between with proper fouling management, they can produce groups rivaling notable single shot rifles of the day.
Seeing some of these old guns getting printed on paper would be pretty cool.
Thanks for sharing that great old rifle. I just can't imagine how hard that is to shoot. I am getting older and can't hardly see the 250 and 300 targets. You still got a good amount of hits. We don't know how good a barrel it has or any quirks or how consistent the lead slugs are produced. The rifling and ammo production of that era just after the civil war was not near as consistent as today!!!
Great video... I love old military surplus
@malachy1847
10 жыл бұрын
1871 Single shot was used by our Republican Revolutionaries....Dublin 1916...
that what we like we like to see you shooting stuff and the top 5!
The sound of it is awesome!
shoot the balistic gel with that,and make camparation with 11mm mauzer and 8X57is
@2000pancevac
10 жыл бұрын
comparation!
nice video. love the old warhorses.. subscribed
I could listen to that first shot on repeat.
Pretty sweet weapon, reminds me a bit of the Lebel rifle. Wouldn't mind seeing a video on that, very similar style action and tubular mag and of course it's ww1 vintage. Or if you guys feel like doing a ww1 themed video that would be cool seeing how the 100 year anniversary for the start of the conflict is this year.
I wish they would compare (in size) of these rounds to a .308 so we can see what you guys are using
@Gungeek
10 жыл бұрын
11x60mm vs. 7.62x51mm :P
@RobsGamingNetwork
10 жыл бұрын
BFR (big fucking round)
@chriskelly509
10 жыл бұрын
Id like to see a side by side comparison :)
@Gungeek
10 жыл бұрын
Chris Kelly It's called Google :)
@chriskelly509
10 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what that is
Always like to see these classics....
You should have had another camera on the gong and put it into a split screen video. Also, I would have liked a closeup of the ammunition. I've never seen that round.
@Camwize
5 жыл бұрын
I just came here to say the exact same thing regarding the ammo!
Man, Eric is beasting that thing.
Put them on paper? Fantastic idea.
Damn you Eric. I saw your M95 video and now I own two M95s. I saw your K31 video and now I have a K31. I saw this video and now I have a 71/84! Stop making awesome videos that make me spend my money!! On second thought, don't. I love these things. :)
I for one can appreciate the feel of shooting a rife produced 130 years ago. Before the era of trench warfare. People nowadays take for granted their AR or their AK. This rife was a Great Grandfather, everything else followed from the bench make these rifles set. It's great to see it in action and saved for the next generation to enjoy shooting a real piece of history with combat experience. Would be interesting to see how well an AR or AK shoots in 130 years time...
That bolt mechanism sounds glorious.
I love old military arms. Love everything about them.
yeah buddy! another iv8888 vid!
Big ol' chunk of lead moving along at 1600 is nothing to sneeze at. I'd take that after a white tail no problem. I like how Eric was the one doing the better shooting with this old war horse.
I wish you guys would do a video on what you can and cannot shoot out of a shotgun . Like whether or not you can shoot slugs , oobuck ,bird shot or other types of loads out of smoothbore barrels or rifled barrels , barrels with chokes different types of chokes . If Different types of loads will damage different types of barrels. Just to make sure that people use the right ammo for the gun that they have . Thanks , Steve .
Holy shit, I had my headphones maxed out from listening to another video with low volume. That first shot scared the living hell out of me!
Good shooting Eric, crude sights on old milsurp rifles cause eye fatigue and frustration quickly. I thought you did a damn fine job.
@RobsGamingNetwork
10 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. I'm still training on a new system in my collection- the SKS. Getting them in there!
Great video, hope you do some more boer war weapons down the line
Amazing rifle thank you for sharing it with us, I wonder how many rounds have been put through it over the years?
11mm ! a monster shooter for rifle . nice vid again
Love to see the following. Krag, M1903, Trapdoor Springfield, British Snider, Sharps, Spencer and finally Arisaka.
I have an _mod 71_ 1873 bolt action (Single shot) German Mouser in the family. Has similar markings I do know it was made in pursia, the rifle is in perfect firing condition. Also has the original bayonet. It's a pretty cool piece of Family hysterical war items to say we have for sure. VERY smooth bolt lol. 😎. Love the gun . Thanks for the video grate info.
the 71/84 is also a prescribed antique in Canada as is the swiss vetterli. both have tube mags but ammo has been out of production for decades.
Guys keep up the good work with the videos of old bolt guns! Iam a collector of Mausers,Enfields and Remington Rolling Blocks.My favorites are the Swedish Mausers and Rolling blocks.Unfortunately with ammo shortage the way it is we just have to watch the brass to reload.Have you ever done any videos of the SWEDES? If you never fired one i would suggest you do .You will get hooked!
That action looks tight as hell to cycle.
Nice gun I love it bro !!
That has nearly identical ballistics to the sixteen gauge shotgun at close range if you use the 3/4 ounce slugs. The 16 launches 350 grains at approximately 1,600 fps. Eric said the 11mm Mauser shot 340 grains at 1,500-1,600 fps.
I love these odd guns Eric does
that is bloody buetifull mate!!
great video!
CHAD WAS SO SKINNY BACK THEN!HOLY COW!!
ehy guys, great video! How about doing one on the 30 remington? would love to see one talk again... Thanks alot...
id really like to see a more detailed review and close up on the gun its self and the action and maybe throw in a some groups with paper targets
Love your mil surp rifle vids
damn it. that is a large round.
please do a video like this with your stoner 63 you bought from MAC and a BAR would be cool too, I have a semi auto and they are awesome.
Dude, sick video! I want one bad.
When are you guys going to shoot the Tavor!! Would love to see how it dose at longer ranges, like 300 yards and beyond.
I second the commenter who requested more info on the 11mm cartridge you're using. Wondering where you got ahold of the components, if you did the handloads yourselves. Also, would love to see more on the Swiss K-31; your "five milsurps" video is the reason I got my C&R and own one (actually three) now!
I just saw the new video Forgotten Weapons put up, so now I wanna see y'all with an FG42.
My Grandfather has this rifle, it's magazine spring is gone so it's pretty much reduced back to a single shot rifle, not to mention it hasn't been shot in over 50 years!