I knew AJATT would work from the beginning since that was pretty much the way I "acquired" English. I never ever took an english textbook neither had classes. If I only knew about AJATT or Antimoon back then, my English would be way better, even though it wasn't really something I was looking for, it kinda happened since I was immersing unintentionally. But I couldn't be able to even come across the AJATT method without knowing english beforehand anyway.

@leti9130

4 жыл бұрын

exact same with me, except i had english classes at school but they were very basic and i didn't feel like i learned anything lol more like i used the knowledge i acquired by watching tv shows and stuff on the tests djdjd

@calin6327

4 жыл бұрын

@@leti9130 exactly my experience.

2:28 haha the sunglasses effect. Cool touch

33:48 I caught that eyebrow raise. Sneaky sneaky.

@joyfulnoise3621

6 жыл бұрын

Ibfinity Dang!!! Someone is paying attention.

@Ibfinity

6 жыл бұрын

本当はただのまぐれだったけど I just happened to switch to the screen at the correct time in reality though lol

I know for sure that the AJATT method works, because that's what I unconsciously did for English as an Italian. I fell so deep in love with the culture and the language that everything I ever watched was in English, as a matter of fact I know nothing about Italian shows or music. Of course it took me years to bring me to my current level , but I can only thank myself and my dedication, school doesn't teach you any language!

@user-dy1vm8jt5d

6 жыл бұрын

Same here with enhlish

@kleyyer

5 жыл бұрын

Same here my italian friend, only I'm from Brazil and pretty much all the english I know was somehow acquired through an unintentional "AJATT", that's why this is so fascinating

@joemuis23

5 жыл бұрын

@toberu same here. I'm dutch although native content is even more lackluster here due to our size.

A helpful thing for me was to switch from headphones to a speaker when at home. Bought a Sonos speaker and leave it playing all day - so much less stressful for me than having it right in my ear all day.

It's crazy how similar this approach is to learning music by ear. You sort of just parrot what you hear without understanding it, but as you keep taking in content that you don't understand, you slowly begin to see patterns. Excited to start this in September after I take my boards!

@MrScotchpie

6 жыл бұрын

Twin Kidd_B Joe Pass was a great Jazz guitarist who learnt by immersing himself in the music, listening and copying. He couldn't read or write music but created some great pieces.

@twinkidd9245

6 жыл бұрын

Mr. Scotchpie For sure man, and the list goes on and on. I was actually a jazz performance major in undergrad before dental school, and there are just a lot of parallels between the AJATT approach and jazz culture. Basically it’s just about being all in. I’m definitely interested in this and down for the challenge

@bluefi

6 жыл бұрын

All Jazz All The Time is something I have been thinking about. But right now I'm too into studying Japanese to have time for Jazz.

I'm having a blast with AJATT! :D Nice to see the two Matts talking together about experiences. Thank you for sharing.

@JapanWalkerJJ

3 жыл бұрын

How's your progress

@victorstroganov8135

3 жыл бұрын

@@JapanWalkerJJ Not bad, hbu?

I have been trying AJATT since April 8 (more or less) and It's being so great, i've learned so much and improved my comprehension of languages and learning languages, for all of that, thank you for inspiring me.

@beastbum

5 жыл бұрын

Where u at now?

@charliebucket53

4 жыл бұрын

@@beastbum he gave up

@JapanWalkerJJ

3 жыл бұрын

Are you fluent yet

@ganqqwerty

10 ай бұрын

check up! how's your japanese?

The subtle editing fucking got me 11/10

The book at 12:34 is almost certainly "How to Develop a Perfect Memory" By Dominic O'Brien, and it is one of the most useful books I have ever read. After the first chapter, I was able to memorize lists of up to ten things. After five years I still can memorize phone numbers as fast as people can say them to me. Really recommend this book for everyone. The title is cheesy and the cover makes it look like a fake low quality scam, but I promise it is amazing.

7:30 SAME! I always had this feeling while looking at crazy verb conjugations and hearing about subjunctive tense in French class, that surely, surely if I don't even know what the subjunctive tense is in English, but I'm speaking English just fine. Then why should I need to know it to learn French. I didn't end up getting fluent in French even after taking it all through High School, and I kinda lost interest in French after that. I tried to learn Japanese, gave up when I got to Kanji (didn't know about RTK, tried WaniKani, but lost motivation). Then many years passed and I'd just been watching anime all that time. When I decided to start learning Japanese I thought I might as well learn through anime. I'd also started RTK at that point, but I didn't know about Anki until I found this channel, MIA and AJATT. Then I realised that I'd been AJATTing all this time without knowing it, and intuitively it seemed like the natural way to learn a language. I only wish I'd been so lucky as Matt (BritvsJapan) to discover AJATT earlier on.

How do you get anki decks synced on your phone when you have such large sentence banks on your desktop? Do you set up another user and then transfer to another to sync on anki web?

Magnificent ending

54.00 the loss of ability sounds scary.

Been AJATTing for a few months now. Wish I started earlier because I'm graduating HS in a few weeks. Thankfully AJATT is fun as hell (besides the morning reps), so hopefully I can make some progress and maybe show off come the 18 month mark.

@jamh3426

3 жыл бұрын

how we doing?

Make AJATT great again! Well it always was, but make it popular! :) Guys like you are really pushing it, i love it. I startet with AJATT a few weeks ago and i'm thinking about making some videos about my progress too.. Maybe i start at 1 month in, lets see

@LordKniife01

6 жыл бұрын

i'm also doing the same thing right know with sticking to the same show. I startet watching 僕のヒーローアカデミア and it's the only thing i listen to on the go with my headphones. I also think that i will stick to it for a long time, at least 2 months

Where has this gone. He just straight up disappeared

Matt do you know when your next video will be out? I saw on patreon that you reached $1500/month which means that you'll get an editor, but since it's been about 1.5 weeks since your last video (this one) I am wondering when the next one will get released. Thanks for the continuous great content, I am so grateful for you and the content you are putting out!

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

I give regular updates to what I am working on on my patreon page

How does RTK+Anki work? After one is “finished” with RTK how long do we have to keep reviewing them with anki, does the learning part comes once you start reading them in context and RTK is just a way to be familiar with the kanji and have an idea on how to write them, or is it meant to make you learn them completely without forgetting the whole kanji/keyword. This may be a stupid question, but I’m just worried since the more I go through RTK the more I am forgetting some of them when I review and this is making me hit “hard” on almost every card and the number of reviews are also piling up. I used to have about a 95% retention rate on each review, but around the 800 frame it has been getting lower, between 80% and 90%. Is it okay to forget a few along the run or do I have to go back each time i get a kanji wrong?

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

If your retention rate is dropping that soon, it means you probably didn't learn them well enough the first time, most likely due to not creating good enough stories, or not visualizing them strongly enough

I hope you get this, I don't know where else to ask you a quick AJATT question. Do you think it is a bad idea to mine sentences from a 電子辞書? I'm currently playing some Japanese games and any unknown words I just draw them into the jisho to look them up. In the dictionary it has japanese definitions that I can't really read that well because none of the definitions are i+1. However, there are two more dictionaries in the 電子辞書 that has english definitions of the word and a lot of example sentences with translations. There are a couple of sentences that I find to be i+1. Do you think it's okay to mine these sentences? I'm afraid if it may not be accurate or not. It's Ex-Word Casio 電子辞書.

Hey, over the past couple of days I have been looking into the entire idea and effectiveness of AJATT and have been convinced of it's effectiveness in learning Japanese. However I have been trying to apply these ideas and concepts to Chinese or to really amp up my Spanish. Are these concepts specific to learning Japanese or is there any other guide to learning Chinese. I do know there is some specific material on the AJATT table of contents that just talks about Kanji and the learning of Japanese grammar. Even though I hear all the time about remembering the Kanji would remembering the Hanzi work the same way? For a tonal language like Chinese there is probably a more specific way of using the AJATT method?

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

You would have to change things a bit, but not much. Yes, i would do remembering the hanzi. Learn the basics of tones and grammar, and then just learn the tones of words as you make sentence cards. Other than that, it's all the same

@webster124111

6 жыл бұрын

So would you recommend going through all of remembering the hanzi before starting sentence mining? Because from what I understand, If i were to just start watching movies or reading books and sentence mining, I would have to spend my time copying the sentence then figuring out what each of those words mean in that sentence? Or should I already have a foundation of characters before I start sentence mining off media?

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

i recommend you follow this: www.alljapaneseallthetime.com/blog/images/phase.chart.png

I started RTK a few days ago i'm at the 96th kanji (or something), so you guys said I should put the "keywords/meaning/primitives" at the front, like: fish guts + head (i don't even know if this one exists) and try remembering how to write the character by memory? Thanks for the video😁

@Trefender1

6 жыл бұрын

They're suggesting doing what Heisig recommends. Just write the main keyword for the character on the front. You should be able to write the whole thing from memory just from that. The rest of the stuff can go on the back. For my cards I have the keyword on the front, and just the story (with bolded primitives) and character itself on the back.

@user-wu4lx2ep1p

6 жыл бұрын

thank you very much!

38:54 Brit: "I really struggled with like... old men" (laughs) (snorts) Matt: (scoffs) "yeah, I still do"

Does Remembering the kanji 3 have all the content from the previous books?

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

no... I explain it here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/k3VllKZyYcfWdJc.html

About the loss of proficiency, I am really wondering to which extent does this happen. Wouldn't it also have to do with how fast the language has been acquired and has not been yet so deeply anchored in the memory?

Pretty interesting how your interviewee purposefully studies to round his general ability more. My english is based on watching what I care about and filling in some gaps through the dictionary if I can't guess based on context. I've kinda been interested in learning cultural context but it's not really a requirement since I don't live in a anglophone country. Does britt wanna fill in the gaps to fit in more with society in general or just to comprehend the content produced in it on a deeper level?

I started AJATT'ing recently and there's something that makes me anxious a bit. I hope someone can clear this up: When you're adding sentences to Anki, how do you make sure that you really understand the sentence? I mean, even if you look up every word of the sentence in the dictionary, there's a chance that you can't grasp the actual meaning of the sentence that way. How do you make sure that what you write on the back of the card is the true meaning of the sentence?

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

Often times, even after looking up everything in the sentence, you won't understand it. That is completely normal; it just means the sentence wasn't i+1. Just drop it and move on; it will naturally make sense in a few months. You can never be 100% SURE you are understanding a sentence correctly. But you can be 90% sure, and that's enough. You will be wrong 10% of the time, but future immersion will naturally clear all of that up. Acquiring a language is a processes of making lots of guesses, some of those being right, and immersion clearing up the ones that were wrong.

@LucyPero

6 жыл бұрын

I see. Thank you so much!

@AstucesLangues

4 жыл бұрын

@@mattvsjapan for many people including myself, the unsettling thing about not understanding a sentence after looking up all the words is that it usually doesn't happen if your TL is a close Indo-European language (assuming your native language is English or another IE language). I have 4 IE languages under my belt but Japanese is a different beast that can throw off even the most seasoned learners (including Luca Lampariello). Thanks a ton for your videos. You obviously put a ton of thoughts into this and have managed to eloquently and clearly explain how second language acquisition works and why. I had an intuitive grasp through my own experience of language learning but hearing them laid out so unequivocally and seeing the results of mass immersion on you and your guests gave me newfound trust in the process and motivation to double down on MIA (well, as much as having a wife, job and 3 kids allows lol)

Guys, what kind of tv shows, anime and another stuff did you use for BEGINNER immersion?

@leti9130

4 жыл бұрын

i think he said before that it doesn't matter what "level" the stuff you watch is, just watch stuff that's natural and interesting to you and you'll be fine

@sagefields5847

4 жыл бұрын

No such thing. As a beginner you won't understand anything anyway. The key is to listen and be okay that most of it goes over your head for a while

How do you find the anki sentences

Hey Matt! I’m looking to start learning japanese. Portuguese is my native language and I taught myself english. I’m planning on doing rtk 1,3, but I really don’t want to focus only on rtk for months. Is it a good a idea to start learning Japanese (with hiragana and katakana only) as I go through rtk? Because going through rtk alone must be tedious AF! I’m thinking about using lingq

Old video so you probably won't respond but, I am doing the 6k decks with immersion, does that not work?

@4.mnj1

3 жыл бұрын

Are those words in the deck relevant to your immersion?

@Cosmicgardening

3 жыл бұрын

It'll work it's just going to be a little bit harder. The 6k is really a 2k/6k right? 2k words isn't that much on the scale or learning a language but it's a great base for sentence mining. 6k is a lot of cards to learn if you're not engaged with them though (I mean to say cards people mine themselves are usually remembered more easily).

600 reviews. Holy shit. I lost my shit doing around 250, to the point where I had to lower the number of new cards per day from 20 to 12.

@XgamersXdimensions

4 жыл бұрын

I think the most I’ve ever done was around 800 reps in one day: I had about a week straight where I was spending 3+ hours on Anki everyday. Now I’m trying to keep it under 2 hours a day (aiming for about 90-100 minutes a day)

@k.5425

3 жыл бұрын

@@XgamersXdimensions wow you guys are really going hardcore.... I need to up my game if I want to rapidly improve my Spanish in roughly a 6months to a year...

How long would it take on average to finish RTK first 2000+ ?

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

3 months

Hey guys, Question. For Bilingual sentence flashcards, should I make them J-->E or E-->J

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

J->E. never do ANYTHING E->J

@shahmareo

6 жыл бұрын

Matt VS Japan not even when we reach the outputting stage? lol

@shahmareo

6 жыл бұрын

Matt VS Japan but I guess by that time we'll be doing monolingual cards

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

exactly. by the time you are outputting, thinking in english and translating than into japanese will be the last thing you want to do

@k.5425

3 жыл бұрын

You can do the basic reverse card.

BrittMatt doesnt come across like an introvert

You really missed an opportunity to name this video "Matt vs Japan vs Brit vs Japan"

Itd be nice to see more content in Japanese. I can only find one video from each of them where they actually use japanese

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

Why would it be nice? for motivation? Most people watching my videos don't understand Japanese yet (otherwise they wouldn't need my videos), so i don't really understand why I would make videos in Japanese. That would mean subtitling them, which means twice as much work. There are two public videos on this channel of me using Japanese, and more on my patreon.

@joshuarowe8410

6 жыл бұрын

Various reasons. One would be motivation. It's endearing to see two people who are fluent at a language which isn't their native language conversing. I think it makes it feel more 'real'. I kinda feel like Japanese gets romanticised a lot (not on your channel I know, I watched the long vid with your whole story). Another reason would be credibility. Ultimately subtitles would be a lot of work so I understand why it's infeasible with a conversation of this length. Just a 'would be nice'

Hearing BritvsJapan’s break after 18 months, it makes me wonder at what point can you stop immersion and keep at a certain level (if such a point exists). I think of course you lose some things over time, but is your Japanese fluency dependent on maintaining an immersive Japanese immersion environment? That wouldn’t be great if you want to pick up another language afterwards.

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

A language is a lot like a snowman. You can't just make it and walk away if you want it to last for more than a few days; it takes constant maintenance. This is true for your native language as well. That said, the higher level you are at, and the longer you have known the language, the less maintenance is required. But like Khatzumoto said, a language is a house, not a hotel. There is really no point in reaching a high level if you are just going to move on to the next language as soon as you get there.

@AllyrionWW

6 жыл бұрын

Matt VS Japan I know for sure it would take a lot to lose native fluency because I’ve had long stretches where I didn’t use my own. I know with language, you can lose almost all of it without practice, but the length of time it takes differs depending on how deeply it’s stored in long term memory. With language learning, I usually lose things in the order of acquisition (though it’s not always the case). I’ve quit using Japanese for over 5 years with almost no exposure but there are some things I feel like I could never forget. I know I could eventually, but it would take a significant amount of time. I guess I’m wondering when you can achieve a solid foundation in long term memory. But that foundation is kind of like talking about fluency, it’s almost meaningless because it can mean so many different things to different people. If you cut off English from your life completely for 2 years, it may feel a little weird to speak it again at the start, but you’ll quickly fall into it cause most of it would take decades to forget due to native exposure. The natural SRS of immersion makes some things hard to forget.

Been AJATTing for a few months now. Wish I started earlier because I'm graduating HS in a few weeks. Thankfully AJATT is fun as hell (besides the morning reps lol), so hopefully I can make some progress and maybe show off come the 18 month mark. Side note: my name is Matt as well so what should my screen name be?

@GeeWTee

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Fernandez How about MattVsAJATT, it rhymes.

100% outro

So, do you guys use the anki app on the phone? Since its not free I haven’t bought it, I’m just 1/3 into RTK so I’m just starting with AJATT, is it worth it for whats ahead on my journey ( especially once I get into sentences)?

@LegendRuffy

6 жыл бұрын

You can also just use the anki desktop version. Also, you do not have to use anki. There are other srs apps, programms too.

@bobpage6822

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the iOS app is completely worth it.

@justbob7828

6 жыл бұрын

I do use the desktop version, just wanted to know if having it on my phone will make reviewing more efficient, like, so far I only make my anki reviews at night when at home, but maybe having the app would let me review during my spare time between school and work, etc.

@LegendRuffy

6 жыл бұрын

Oh, I see. The please excuse my former comment^^ Yes, it is worth it! I always use anki when I'm on the bus or on the train so that I can use my time more effectively. But I have the android version so cannot talk about the iOS version but it is most likely to be the same

@justbob7828

6 жыл бұрын

I see, it does makes sense it will make reviewing more efficient (timewise). Thank you for the reply

I know it's not in your wheelhouse but I'd love to see your thoughts on how you'd approach a European language as opposed to Japanese

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

probably the exact same way, minus the kanji. as much immersion as possible, basic grammar, sentence mining, monolingual transition, more sentence mining. input before output.

@mattimus13

6 жыл бұрын

Solid, thanks brother. Really liked your 3 hour vid btw, don't get to say that often. Also dig the meditation content, more of that would be welcome. I bought Culadasa's book and started this week.

@maniravandi5983

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattvsjapan the sentence in front and definition in back?

So the prophecy is true

Great interview 👍 The thing that sucks about learning Chinese is the complete lack of interesting content.

@mattvsjapan

6 жыл бұрын

Just watch mandarin dubbed anime and american cartoons. They are easy to find on the internet

As Dougen put it, fluency is when the Japanese stop saying ぺらぺらしゃべります and start asking 日本にどのぐらいいましたか :D (I'm terribly sorry I'm not really any good at Japanese....)

@jacobclarke6316

5 жыл бұрын

Actually you're know you're good when they start correcting you again. Just like you get the odd english person correcting other english people's english

I made a meme video for AJATT'ers to use when they are told they're "insane": kzread.info/dash/bejne/mIal2Kt_lZmYYMY.html

Can someone briefly explain what Ajatt is? I am too lazy to read all the Table Of Contents.

@jacobclarke6316

5 жыл бұрын

No

@sagefields5847

4 жыл бұрын

Give up now then

@simiuciacia

4 жыл бұрын

All Japanese all the time, sounds pretty straightforward to me

@eijiyuyama7428

3 жыл бұрын

Bruuhhh