Matt O'Dowd: Your Mind vs. The Universe, Free Will & Duality
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Matt O'Dowd is the host of PBS Space Time and a Professor of Physics at the City University of New York. His upcoming film on physics and consciousness is called Inventing Reality. You can find out more here: www.indiegogo.com/projects/in...
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:17 What is PBS Spacetime?
00:05:38 Inventing reality
00:12:52 The scientific perspective of understanding reality
00:15:44 Metaphysics needs to be a part of "theory"
00:23:23 Material is "dual" to Consciousness
00:25:46 Ought from an "is"
00:32:12 Science is incomplete
00:55:21 The hard problem of consciousness
01:04:49 You have free will
01:37:15 Inconsistency in the universe
02:00:53 Terrence Deacon and "absence" / "nothingness"
02:06:52 Outro
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Timestamps and Sponsors: - Henson : hensonshaving.com/everything - Rocket Money : rocketmoney.com/everything - ExpressVPN : expressvpn.com/theoriesofeverything 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:17 What is PBS Spacetime? 00:05:38 Inventing reality 00:12:52 The scientific perspective of understanding reality 00:15:44 Metaphysics needs to be a part of "theory" 00:23:23 Material is "dual" to Consciousness 00:25:46 Ought from an "is" 00:32:12 Science is incomplete 00:55:21 The hard problem of consciousness 01:04:49 You have free will 01:37:15 Inconsistency in the universe 02:00:53 Terrence Deacon and "absence" / "nothingness" 02:06:52 Outro
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
Жыл бұрын
You should watch my recent video about Dark Matter interacting with baryonic matter it is a new discovery... I even proposed a future way to get a accurate measurement of the illusion of expansion past the speed of light and properly calculate it in the future.
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
Жыл бұрын
The thing is all existence is an observer all existence around us was made by The Singularity AKA The Big Bang AKA God so all existence is part of the singularity and because everything is God in this Kaleidoscope reality it is all an observer and therefore their exist nothing that is not an observer even the mathematics are an observer... all existence is an observer.
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
Жыл бұрын
Like I always say there is no objective reality only subjective reality in order to have objective reality you need to have an observer that exists from the beginning of time all the way to the end of time and we do not live in a static universe everything is constantly changing even the most fundamental particles have fluctuation there is a baked in amount of uncertainty no matter what so therefore it is apparent that you are living in a illusion world for the real world will not have any of this we will be returned back to Singularity state and be all encompassing completely alone.
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to understand that I only take the position I do because the rest of the scientific Community wants to belittle theories like string theory and everything else so logically I just take it to the ultimate conclusion and that way I can belittle everyone else too so I'm not specifically targeting anyone here when I'm doing my belittling I'm just equalizing the playing field.
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your scientific mind willing and able to adapt to new information and logical conclusions I've made fun of you in the past but it is good to see that you are moving towards the logical conclusion this makes me respect you infinitely more times than I did. Seems like you fundamentally understand what's going on here now the hierarchy is making issues for figuring out the problems in which we face and keeping the whole Collective from doing so together. For these actions I highly respect you.
Two of my favorite minds and co-hosts! Hi guys, happy holidays!!
@austinharper1
Жыл бұрын
I love seeing you paying attention to other peoples content in this KZread space, it really convinces me you deeply care about your friends and colleagues and refining your own perspective. Bravo man!
@Nonconceptuality
Жыл бұрын
A CHRISTMAS GIFT FOR SCIENCE kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5ylubF9g6zFobw.html The scientific process is a ruse by Maya to convince consciousness that thought is truth. Physics is not discovering particles; it is creating them. Mind comes up with a thought-based prediction about the physical realm and then produces mathematical equations that are then used by physics to construct tools that are intended to test the validity of the thoughts against the physical realm. The thoughts that enter the scientist's consciousnesses instruct them on how to construct the tools through which the newly theorized particles can be detected. When the theorized particle appears, the scientists assume that it was there prior to the experiment, but there is no way to determine as to whether it was discovered or created. They choose to ignore the other possibility and blindly accept their assumption as the correct interpretation. This is easy to do when everyone around you is doing the same thing. And how convenient it is that these newly theorized particles are all beyond detection using the five senses? They are only ever revealed while looking through the tool through which they were created. So thought makes a prediction about the physical realm and then thought instructs humans how to construct technology that will be able to test as to whether the prediction was accurate. This tool, in actuality, is a device that GENERATES the appearance of the predicted, assumed to be pre-existing, particle. When the narrative is close enough as to fulfill the criteria for validation of the theory, VIOLA; thought has been validated as revealing truth about the physical realm. This is the spell that Maya/ignorance casts, EXPLICITLY REVEALED! The entire scientific method is a play by Maya to convince consciousness that thought is truth. This is Maya programming consciousness so that it will not resist the transition from accepting the physical realm of the senses to be fundamental reality, to accepting the non-physical realm of thought to be fundamental reality. Which scientist will be wise enough and brave enough to SEE this and TALK ABOUT IT?
@henrycowsert3999
Жыл бұрын
Please try and get Lex and Curt together!
@bosuttlutt
10 ай бұрын
It's almost like you've gotta keep showing up. This presents in the way you, like I, have an inappropriate (to others) enthusiasm, especially towards connecting with others on these topics. Does your need to connect also stem from a lack of feeling whatever connection others have when they speak to each other?
I got bored with Physics a long time ago but finding Matt on YT rekindled my interest. Not only was he enthusiastic about what he was explaining but he allowed the listener to absorb the material as if they too had put in the effort to understand. Very considerate.
He put it perfectly. “Levelling everyone up” that’s it man, we can’t do it alone. And it feels wrong when you’re winning if you’re by yourself celebrating.
@LloydWaldo
Жыл бұрын
I really respect that about O’Dowd. He doesn’t believe in this nonsense of “involving” everyone with patronizing BS like some communicators. Treat people as capable of learning and get into the guts of science.
@aaronclarke1434
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like this niche. Better for us non-scientists and amateurs to bump up against our cognitive ceiling than not challenge ourselves at all.
I think Matt's deep dives on SpaceTime in part got me started down this rabbit hole, really excited for this one! And unfortunate about the rendering error, but so it goes, thanks Curt!
@TheMemesofDestruction
Жыл бұрын
It’s a fantabulous hole ^.^
Matt is really astute as a teacher pointing out that what academic level knowledge really is, very often, is an acquired sense of superiority that is not always earned as much by exceptional ability as by simply having the means to spend time working on something. It makes you realize he understands his privilege and his limitations.
This was one of the most important TOE interviews in my opinion, respect to both guys! Hope you can get Matt back for part 2.
@aaronclarke1434
Жыл бұрын
As someone who, I surmise, has seen many episodes, which ones would you recommend I watch? I’ve seen the Karl Friston ones which Kurt himself evidently holds in high regard.
@fluxcapacitor3278
Жыл бұрын
I am assuming you haven't seen many episodes yet. Maybe start from the playlist "welcome new members": kzread.info/head/PLZ7ikzmc6zlMS2MP3hzVot4Z77AWFnHzQ
Really like how Curt asks for instances of something. It pins things down where other interviewers might leave the guest ramble on without bringing things down to more brass tacks eg at 43:00. Good stuff.
So glad this popped up on my feed. Huge fan of PBS Spacetime and Matt Dowd has contributed immeasurably to my own understandings of the Universe. As a layperson, the amount of knowledge available to us at our fingertips really makes this a golden age of knowledge. So glad there are those willing to invest their time in sharing what they know. Loved this interview and will be subscribing to both the KZread channel and supporting the podcast!
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Hey Matt, thanks so much! So happy to know you enjoyed.
Thanks, Matt & PBS Space Time for sending us over here🎉
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Welcome! Hope you enjoy some of the other content as well:)
His physics channel is literally one of the best of all time. Excellently technical
@themice42
11 ай бұрын
you mean - one of the best of all ... spacetime ... 😀
Oh hi Matt from Spacetime... You've just advised me to tell you, that you have just advised me to this podcast. 😄 I'm happy to be here, thank you.
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Welcome! Hope you enjoy the channel:)
Fellow SpaceTime-before-bedtime watcher here! Glad to hear Matt talk more about his personal views, and interesting to hear that he's basically a compatibilist.
I can not begin to express how much this conversation needed to happen!!! A deep Thank You to you both
Such a amazing conversation. The energy radiating from these two men have really altered my trajectory in positive substantial ways over the last couple years--thanks. bigly.
It seems Matt O'Dowd was disagreeing with Bernardo Kastrup, but if they talked to each other he would see that Bernardo also claims that mind at large is not metaconscious (conscious of itself) which was basically the thing Matt said when he was speaking about consciousness.
@hamletwinston7239
Жыл бұрын
He also mistook bernardo for a panpsychist
@rogermarin1712
Жыл бұрын
This I think the distinction between consciousness and meta consciousness is key but maybe he doesn't see it that way?.
@ark-L
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking this exact same thing! One issue I see constantly in discussions about consciousness is that people who play fast and loose with their definitions (i.e., don't make a distinction between meta-consciousness and consciousness), tend to be the ones who are quickest to downplay or straight-up dismiss the hard problem. And while Matt was thoughtful about the whole thing, and engaging the question in absolute good faith, he did still end up doing just that. And it's frustrating because just making the distinction basically automatically reveals why the kind of emergentist theory he put forth doesn't solve the problem (but CAN explain meta-consciousness once consciousness is understood to be fundamental). Oh well-fun discussion nonetheless! Just spoiled, I suppose, after experiencing the level of rigor that Bernardo brings to the topic.
@alcannistraro
Жыл бұрын
I felt that Matt actually is not that familiar with Bernardo Kastrup's thinking.
@trisix99
29 күн бұрын
he's not familiar with Goedel, or what it stands for either. It's just a formal theory but pragmatically it doesn't go beyond that. Also, Chomsky is ooooooold. There are new players in semantics that are 100. See the Embodied Simulation Hypothesis for semantics. The thumbnail is also click bait.... the name of the film is "inventing reality" but the thumbnail displays: "you invent reality"
PBS SPACETIME...one of my favorite shows ever!
What a great episode! Sitting in and being part of this conversation is time well spent. Keep up the fantastic work, Curt, we appreciate it very much! 💕☀️
Big fan of Matt and PBS Spacetime! Glad to have this chance to see him and get to know him in a different light. Also thrilled to learn about TOE!
Haven't seen this mentioned, but I like the white rabbit on Matt's bookshelf. Representative of what sparked Alice down the rabbit hole into a different glimpse of reality.
@whiterabbit8329
Жыл бұрын
❤️
@Alex-ip1dn
Жыл бұрын
@@whiterabbit8329 You're awesome. I just saw this. I hope you have a great spring lil buddy ❤️
I've been following PBS Space Time ever since Matt took it under his wings. I can grasp hardly half of the content, but I do feel so inspired, and as if taken on a wild ride, with every video. Me and my family have had some financial hardships for the last year or so, but as things are slowly looking up and for pure love for Matt and his work, I'll head over to the campaign page right away. All the best from Space Time's biggest fan in Central Europe! ☺️
I just found that Matt is more quite interesting than I previously think from watching him in youtube as a science communicator, He's deeper than that!
I like Theories of Everything Curt, have watched dozens of podcasts, but I love me some Matt O'Dowd. Space Time sent me!
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear:)
What a gift!! This ought to be quite interesting. I’ve enjoyed watching Matt’s presentations on SpaceTime, with younger family members these last few years. I look forward to hearing his thoughts on these expanded topics. Thanks Curt 🤙
Well, am glad i didn't skip that advert at 39:00. Pure gold content from Kurt.
Another treat of a conversation. Thank you both so much!
So nice to see Matt O’Dowd on here PBS science is excellent. You’re doing a great job Kurt your conversations tackle really interesting and fun topics. I always enjoy listening and learning. ❤
Fantastic podcast, it's among the very best that I have seen! I certainly hope that you do this again soon! Thank you both so much for sharing this dialogue!
Saw Matt O'Dowd in the thumbnail and instantly knew what podcast I had to listen to
@TheoriesofEverything
10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much - Curt
Curt, Matt -- that was truly an enlightening, close-up conversation covering everything we 'think matters'. Loved it!!! Much thanks to Matt, and Curt, you never disappoint. Very thankful to both of you:)
I developed my own view of free will a little over 20 years ago as a college student studying the philosophy of physics. I have been disappointed that so many with a background in science take an opposing view as if it is just obvious fact. Then I heard Matt's view on PBS Spacetime and it is VERY similar to mine. I was really glad to see that from someone who knows the science.
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
:)
Matt I think I love you dude I just heard the first sentence and I’m like oh my God you got to be kidding me you’re tying it all together
If Matt wasn’t on PBS Spacetime he could totally do a Channel called, “Science and Satire.” ^.^
I love watching Matt’s presentations on PBS!
@crazydavidsmith
Жыл бұрын
@TheSystem I listen with NewPipe with the "skip silence" option enabled. This resolves that issue. 👍
I have a friend who is in his mid '80s. He is an artist, and a thinker. He has told me for years that particles do not exist. Most people think he is crazy. But he is absolutely convinced they're not real.
@ltandrepants
Жыл бұрын
so, he thinks everything is a wave? a frequency, like tesla said?
@seabud6408
Жыл бұрын
“There are no particles, only fields” Prof Sean Carroll. The Universe is one unbroken field. We know an aspect or quality of that field is alive and conscious … you and I. This means that that Univeraal field manifests life and consciousness . To deny this one would have to deny systems theory / cause and effect or the fact that super hot energy cooled and clumped into conscious you and I with just some waiting around …. and not a single scientific theory or human thought brought that process to what we experience right now … energy left to its own devices did it all . Plasma grew via a cooled clumped Universe (intrinsic 4 forces / maths /geometry and information ) to each one of us.
Matt O'Dowd suggested leaving a comment if we found your channel through him. Done! But... wow, _two_ hours!?... I promise I'll, um... scan the transcript tomorrow? :)
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Welcome!:)
Matt is using observing dynamics and mechanics without trying to fill in blanks. Great science 👌
PBS and TOE are the two best science sources by far -
Excellent conversation. Thank you greatly for these, they are amazing! Best wishes for Christmas and into the new year ✨️
I have been wanting to hear from Matt O Dowd for years in a format like this. Outstanding as always!
I mostly agree. Time is relative to the observer and humans have free will. Measurements and "not" measurements are how your brain creates reality as you know it. And you are free to act upon those measurements in any way possible.
Love both of your shows. Thanks for sharing.
I love this spacetime guy. He's the best physics teacher there is.
@mattmaas5790
Жыл бұрын
Yep he's a great teacher, using animations, quotes from papers and famous scientists, etc. But I also like how he focuses and stuff I'm actually interested in. Gets you excited for the frontier of physics. I mean like holographic universe theory, spooky quantum phenomena, inside atoms and beyond the edge of the periodic table.... my high friends dig it even.
Thank you Curt.. ❤ like many here such a big fan of Matt’s Space Time and once again a great deep dive into the possibilities of new thought. Having only scratched the surface of a few topics, would be so great to have Matt back again for more discussions!thank you thank you for yet another amazing podcast 🙏🏼🚀💫 seasons greetings to all🎄
Here from PBS Space Time. I'm excited to find a new, interesting science program.
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Welcome! Hope you enjoy the content:)
Best interview and guest thus far.
1:02:30 I feel like the key there is to distinguish between experience and consciousness and self-awareness, all those things are the spectrums he's talking about.
Excellent discussion! Thanks to the both of you.
Matt, I appreciate your wisdom. Please keep doing what you are doing. It means more than you know to people like me. Science communication to the public should be elevated to this level for all of our sakes.
Here from Space Time to say hello and listen to Matt's deeper dive on topics
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Hello and welcome! Hope you enjoy some of the other content as well:)
“Being the data structure that your brain has assembled about the outside world” is such a great simple analogy. Also this is my first video I have seen from your channel and I think you have a really neat interviewing style. I got here by referral from Matt at PBS ST and I’m really interested now in listening to your library of content. Thanks for what you do!
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard and hope you enjoy:)
I grew up poor, broke and never realized nor had the opportunity to explore science formally but I can understand the models used in quantum mechanics as taught in Space time for the most part. If I do struggle to conceptualize it then I usually give it a second go and figure it out. It is so refreshing not to have it all dumbed down for those of us who do like the challenge of wrapping our minds around ideas that we otherwise are spoon fed as watered down truths from the academic elite who think we're all too stupid to understand even though their often standing on the shoulders of men greater than themselves. Many people can copy information and regurgitate it if they repeat it enough. Not nearly as many can take all of their collective knowledge and zoom out in a manner that allows them to fit them together like a massive puzzle without their ego or bias getting in the way. Great shows both here and on Spacetime.
@TheVaged
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but we have to give credit where credit is due. Some people invented a way for us to shoot information to each other almost instantaneously all over the world. Without that, people like me and you wouldn't have gotten a chance to even examine the information. We have also seen a lot of these people begin sharing freely the type of information you'd only get in high academia.
Here from Spacetime. Glad to be here.
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome! Looking forward to reading some of your other comments on other podcasts on this channel, if any. Hopefully you enjoy them Wayland
This podcast is paradise.
Reallly looking forward to this. PBS and Matt are awesome.
Merry Christmas! This is awesome.
The curse of habitually watching PBS Space Time before bed is that I keep falling asleep 10 minutes in...
Great Guest.. love it.. PBS spacetime is one of my favorites ❤️
Good shit, Curt! Thankful for another awesome podcast. And G’day to Matt from a fellow Aussie interested in the fundamental nature of reality.
Love what you contribute to the world. I get muddled up between consciousness and awareness. I am only conscious of what I am aware of and my awareness fluctuates as does my consciousness but I wonder if they are in sync 🤔
@Some_Deist
Жыл бұрын
Would you explain those 2 concepts ?
@KR-jq3mj
Жыл бұрын
@@Some_Deist that's a really big ask and I will think about it before I try to articulate a response if thats 👌 in the meantime I would be interested to know your thoughts
@KR-jq3mj
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXqtztOAiJfUabA.html. I think this is the most convincing explanation of consciousness might be listened to in conjunction with kastrups analytical idealism it could be that awareness is that part of consciousness that has come to our attention perhaps explained by vervaekes relevance realisation ... clearly I am stumbling around in the dark but these titans are helping light the way.. seems convincing though that consciousness is fundamental
"Thoughts independent of the substrate." I've really enjoyed the whole podcast, but this is the part that really got me going. Thanks for sharing your substrate independent symbolic elements, Matt!
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Love Matt’s pbs work, probably the best science educator on KZread, although Anton’s pretty good too😊. Oh and Veritasium😆
Matt, you have hit so many points on the head, you are a true scientist, I can see by your facial expressions that you genuinely think about what you say before you say it, you always point things to the most practical and logical degree, I appreciate you. Thank you so much for your truth and shared knowledge which can be traced back scientifically.
Love this collaboration. Big fan of pbs spacetime AND TOE.
Really cool listening to you guys man..... Curt, you always bring on great guests, and I think you do a great job the way you engage.... You've got an awesome channel.... and Matt, I love your channel and videos too... the way you present things is so concise and well done... Thanks to both of you for doing this. Btw.... Matt, it looks like your Indigogo is doing great! what date did you post this again? Must have taken a while to compile everything.... And Curt... you're a rockstar dude... seriously... Love your podcast man..... Happy Holidays
Amazing guest and discussion! Thank you Curt! I think traveling is one of the best ways to get “meta-perspective” on our own biases. Something that is limited for most Americans since to get outside merican culture usually takes a passport and an expensive flight. But even then just visiting as a tourist isn’t enough to change perspective. My views were changed when I fully immersed in Turkish culture (for work). Although I volunteered and fully enjoyed it I was forced to learn and live Turkish culture as an exchange pilot. After learning another language and culture so different from my own, I am amazed to see so easily all the biases of my old culture. Probably why immigrants to American are so successful and seem to outperform long standing established citizens and brands. I think we will all rejoice when the hard headed industries of the past fail. If you can’t physically travel the next best thing is mentally with the WWW. This is bringing big changes I think to those people mentally curious with the mental integrity to realize they are mostly full of BS. Not by their own fault, but simply as your guest so eloquently related, none of us know what is going on but we are on the path. I think I’m excited now for the future of humanity for the first time in my life. Pity so many people live in local maximums of a painful existence. This seems to be changing like your guest said perspective is. power. Thanks again Curt and Matt!
Curt - this is great! I came here after the recommendation from Matt at Spacetime; I also subscribed to your audio podcast. Keep it up!
Merry Christmas!! 🎁🎄❤️
This is a fascinating talk. The stuff around 50:00-51:00 about duality in describing phenomena and which descriptions are more fundamental: how our brains connect with the different descriptions may be relevant here.
Good to see you growing my friend. I am following since you had 3k subs . Nice journey:)
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jay!
Love what you so, Curt. Thank you! 💙
Thankyou Curt,another great interview and another very interesting guest that I hadnt heard of prior to this. Listening to Matt for a few hours gave me what I call the David Chalmers effect. Fascinating to listen to what he shares publicly,but would love to spend an evening in a bar with him and hear what he thinks about the nature of reality in the privacy of his own mind. This isnt a criticism,I totally understand and respect the boundaries they have to keep within publicly to protect academic positions and funding. They share what they are sure wont cause a stir,just imagine what they think but darent share?
You feel all of me IN YOU.... when you relax and let it flow like in an accident or if you read this material correctly and you just see your thought that’s all it takesBOOM YOUR DONE
very excited to see something like this from this guy
Here from PBS Spacetime!
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Welcome ! Looking forward to reading some of your other comments on other podcasts on this channel, if any. Hopefully you enjoy them Jogan
Hi Curt & friends. Happy Christmas. Me as a fan like to see more science. It's a very cool setting. 😄 Free will sounds very good, intelligent life has also some rules, a common ground tendencies. You know these talks I will take also for reason to buy a new laptop to see all of you clearer and better.
Hmm this will be really really interesting. Thank you to make it happen!
WOW! 😳🧐💭😍 Absolutely incredible. Please, more; I'll send money to listen to you both discuss things. This was supremely constructive; a beautiful expression of love, to curious minds and open hearts. I came from PBS Spacetime. Thanks for saving me a seat at the table. Just perfect. 👌
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! I hope you enjoy your experience and look forward to hearing more of your comments about other podcasts.
I love watching Matt O'Dowd. I listen to science podcasts both newsy and difficult in the hope that I will understand enough and absorb a bit more by sort of osmosis. I am old now but one way and another have studied stuff from accounts (👎) to nursing to mental health (👍) for work plus other stuff for fun. Just in case there is reincarnation I have decided to pick up as much chemistry, physics and maths as I can before I die so I can .maybe use it in the next incarnation. But as I really like the thought that every molecule and atom in my being will scatter back into the world and be part of other living things maybe I will just be a very thoughtful tree.
Two hours is far too long, unless the debate is lively and explores such engaging topics, well done Curt great interview. 👍👍👍
@TheoriesofEverything
Жыл бұрын
Carl?
@SpamMouse
Жыл бұрын
@@TheoriesofEverything Sorry - mind was on someone else, please accept my apologies. ( Your comments about the influence of Carl Sagan were a factor....) 🥴
I loved listening to this conversation, this was a wonderful end-of-year treat, thank you to the both of you! On the subject of free will I do find it surprising when the argument centers around predictability. The inability, even in principle, to predict the output of a system does not seem to be evidence that the system is free to make its own decisions, only that its decisions cannot be computed/calculated or otherwise predicted in any way that physics allows. I think Matt is right that we should want different words to describe inter vs intra system "cause", but by the same token there is a deep ambiguity in the words "free will". Given what we know of quantum physics, a definition of it that has to do with predictability (or lack thereof) seems easy to defend, but this definition is very much anchored in our modern understanding of the limits of physics (and even mathematics, as in non-computability and incompleteness), it almost seems like it is carefully chosen to be compatible with what we now know of those limits. I think that historically, the question of free will has always had a lot more to do with determinism than predictability or computability. Call it "fate" or "destiny", the modern form of the question is "does the block universe include our future actions?". With no privileged reference frame, it would seem that this would have to be the case, (of course QM makes this a subtly more difficult question to settle, but not in a way that would make us "free" to chose that future anyway). This "stricter" definition of free will is a lot more difficult to defend, and even seems like a self-contradictory notion. To set aside this difficult-to-escape conclusion on the ground that the future can't be predicted, even in principle, seems to be missing the larger point of this age old question. I would agree that, as cognitive agents with no direct cross-influence on the underlying substrate, our will is as free as it could ever be given a non-self-contradictory definition. For "all intent and purpose", we have free will. This is hardly a controversial question. The question is, does that make you deny determinism? If it doesn't, then I would submit that you do not really believe in "free will", you have only found a way to say that you do. With great respect to the both of you, best wishes for the coming new year!
At about 28:00. I really liked how he said that physics needs a metaphysics and an ontology, but why does everyone forget that science itself needs not only methodology, but also epistemology? The former never thinks about the latter, the latter must kneel and worship the former
“We also explore consciousness and the fundamental role it *may* have.” I hope you’re being cheeky here, Curt 🤭💭 Consciousness, when (meta)mathematized as the domain-general process of input-to-output attribution, is incontestably fundamental 💖
@baTonkaTruck
Жыл бұрын
AI generated comment.
@Self-Duality
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@@baTonkaTruck Is your comment self-referential?
@ReductioAdAbsurdum
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Consciousness is no more fundamental than apples.
@Jay_in_Japan
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"If I couch my assertion in big brain language, it makes it true", the comment
@ReductioAdAbsurdum
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@@Jay_in_Japan Yeah, it's Deepak chopra-level techno babble.
What a great Christmas present! Thank you @theoriesofeverything!
Looking forward to this!
PBS Space Time sent me here :)
@TheoriesofEverything
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Welcome! Hope you enjoy some of the content here:)
Matt sent me! Nice program!
@TheoriesofEverything
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Thanks and welcome! Looking forward to reading some of your other comments on other podcasts on this channel, if any. Hopefully you enjoy them
That which is invented/created is an appearance that is transient. Therefore it should not be called "reality" Reality is that which is not created. It is that which does not change and that which is not description I'll clear it all up when you interview me
@pugix
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Parmenides
PBS Space Time sent me here! If Theories of Everything by Sabine Hossenfelder is not the official theme of this channel, it certainly should :D
@TheoriesofEverything
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Welcome! By the way, I spoke to Sabine a couple times on the channel. One here kzread.info/dash/bejne/nX6hpM-ooNvJYc4.html about the foundations of quantum mechanics, and then here about a variety of topics in the description / timestamps. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZWgw7CGZ67PiaQ.html
@Posesso
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@@TheoriesofEverything Wow, thanks a lot for the answer!
If you could predict the future, you would know exactly what to do and when to do it. Then, if you were to deviate from that knowledge in order to create a different outcome and succeed, your own predictive capability would be the deciding factor in your choice. The more you can predict, the less choice you have. The experience of free will, is related to how much information you have about the future of randomness. We have no choice (lol) but to experience free will. It has nothing to do with mechanistic reality and everything to do with our inability to know enough at any given moment. I guess I just have a hard time understanding why there is an issue, it seems obvious that we have free will and yet, we exist in a deterministic universe.
This conversation makes me love you both so much more lol
@TheoriesofEverything
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Thank you so much
I found this channel through spacetime and I'm very glad I did!
@TheoriesofEverything
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Nice. Welcome ! Looking forward to reading some of your other comments on other podcasts on this channel, if any. Hopefully you enjoy them Geeklazer
For the hard problem of consciousness I think Michael Graziano's Attention Schema Theory addresses it in a clear and concise manner. I'd love to see him discussing it on TOE.
Serenading the seasonal senses with songs of wonder and synoptic science. ✌️❤️
Sent here by pbs ❤
@TheoriesofEverything
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Great to see you Karl. Look forward to seeing you on other podcasts here. Hopefully you enjoy
Seen this guy in videos before. Is even better in interview. These podcasts are awesome.
Great guest, love PBS Space Time! I really enjoyed listening to Matt’s views on free will. I do have to say I don’t think he really fully understands Bernardo’s point though. I’d argue (and I think Bernard does too) that analytic idealism is not even a type of panpsychism. There is an important and not-at-all trivial distinction between “all is conscious” and “all is IN consciousness”. Would love to hear a theolocution between these two gentlemen! If Matt’s influence has the chance to be even more far-reaching (and I hope that it is), then I think it’s really important he gets more clarity on what exactly Bernardo is saying (and on what fundamental consciousness even means). It’s pretty critical to get clear on this if one wants to deep dive into the nature of reality.
I'm so surprised Matt isn't on so many more podcasts, he's graduated into 2020's science pop culture and well out of the legacy Gabe started on PBS. Would love to see him on non web based zoom call podcasts...the quality is just that little bit easier to watch and listen to. More of Matt on Lex and JRE please (or any).
Thank you so much for what you’re doing bud do you have a genuine love for this science end it shows and it pulls people in when you love it it pulls people in sucks them in is the word
Matt’s talk on consciousness was quite interesting, but I’m left with two gaps in the linkage between physical things and consciousness. First is Matt’s description of meditation as a state where cognition about perception is “turned off” and perception is occurring without other thought. My question is one of directionality: is meditation a state of focused attention (i.e., requiring consciousness to generate adequate discipline to ignore random “higher” thoughts and feelings), or one of reduced conscious attention? I lean strongly to the first choice. If so, it would seem that the notion of a lower state of consciousness providing a qualitative “building block” for more complex cognitive processes (e.g., qualia) is still not found in the human brain. Maybe studies of animal neural activity might help identify pre-conscious processes that are integrated to allow consciousness to emerge in “later” evolutionary branches? Secondly, I appreciated Matt’s description of a (valueless) “hierarchy” of interactions that differentiate quark-level, molecular-level, cellular-level, and related processes. The notion that any given quark’s state does not directly influence the macroscopic characteristics of a fluid flowing through a tube, but that molecular-level “chemistry” characteristics might, makes a lot of sense. However, it seems to me that cognitive phenomena (e.g., qualia, intention) and neural networks seem to have no easily-defined intermediate steps that lead to conscious phenomena that are not physically describable, such as the experience of seeing the color blue. While atoms give rise to molecules, which provide “macroscopic” characteristics of phenomena like crystals and viscosity, I don’t yet see how a similar “jump” in scale can be made between the activity of nerves and the experience of qualia or memory in humans.