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  • @tomtke7351
    @tomtke735127 күн бұрын

    a^2-b = b^2-a = 73 a^2-b^2=b-a (a-b)(a+b)=(b-a) (a+b)=(b-a)/(a-b) a+b = -1 eq.1 a=-b-1 a^2-b=73. eq.2 (-b-1)^2-b =73 b^2+2b+1-b=73 b^2+b+1=73 b^2+b-72=0. eq.3 (b+9)(b-8)=0 sol.1 b=-9 sol.2 b=8 from eq.1 a+b=-1 if b=-9 a-9=-1 a=8 if b=8 a+8=-1 a=-9 solutions (a,b)= (8,-9) = (-9,8) VERIFY a^2-b=?73 (8,-9)? 64--9=?73 73=❤73✔️ (-9,8) 81-8=?73 73=❤73✔️ b^2-a has identical results Conclude solutions (a,b)= (8,-9) = (-9,8)

  • @garrettvanmeter5831

    @garrettvanmeter5831

    25 күн бұрын

    Write as (a,b) = (8,-9) or (a,b) =(-9,8 ). What the solutions as written say is (8,-9) =(-9,8) which is incorrect. Also only One solution is needed Since by symmetry if (8,-9) is a solution then so is (-9,8).

  • @giannaleoci2328
    @giannaleoci232827 күн бұрын

    a^2-b=73 b^2-a=73 a^2-b=b^2-a a^2-b^2=b-a (a-b)(a+b)=-(a-b) a-b div 0 a+b=-1 a=-b-1 b^2-a=73 b^2+b+1-73=0 b^2+b-72=0 b=[-1+-rq(1+288)]/2 b=[-1+-17]/2 b1=-9 b2=8 a=-b-1 a1=9-1=8 a2=-8-1=-9

  • @is7728

    @is7728

    27 күн бұрын

    Smarter method (gave it a like)

  • @garrettvanmeter5831

    @garrettvanmeter5831

    25 күн бұрын

    Again, only one solution is needed since you can appeal to symmetry to get the other

  • @is7728

    @is7728

    25 күн бұрын

    @@garrettvanmeter5831 Agree

  • @margotconard7644
    @margotconard764420 күн бұрын

    a^2 = 73 + b b^2 = 73 + a the nearest square of an interger that is larger than 73 is 81 by inspection if a equals 9 and b equals -8, the problem is solved.

  • @彭干

    @彭干

    11 күн бұрын

    应该是a=-9,b=8或a=8,b=-9吧,你这种解法我们也有类似的,这种解法在中国被称为“瞪眼法”我们写成: 注意到a=-9,b=8是一组解,显然a=8,b=-9是另一组解,证毕。

  • @ika5666

    @ika5666

    8 күн бұрын

    It took me around 10 sec to find the solution. Glory to Ukraine.

  • @LogicRk
    @LogicRk27 күн бұрын

    Superb ❤

  • @user-pd7js7cy9m
    @user-pd7js7cy9m26 күн бұрын

    Hellooooo 😊). A bad solution to an easy problem. After 2:40 we substitute (1) a=b and (2) a=-b-1 in (0) a^2-b-73=0 . We get : (0,1) b^2-b-73=0 , and (0,2) b^2+b-72=0 . Therefore : (3) b1=[ 1-sqrt(293) ]/2 , b2=[1+sqrt(293) ]/2 (4) {thanks to Vietta } : b3=-9 , b4=8 , we substitute (3) in (1) and (4) in (2) . We get the right answer. With respect to, Lidiy

  • @ashtongreenidge

    @ashtongreenidge

    23 күн бұрын

    Recall the condition that a is not equal to b.

  • @Frankkusi-se2rf
    @Frankkusi-se2rf16 күн бұрын

    Please there is a problem in the factorization

  • @lugracias
    @lugracias27 күн бұрын

    👍🌼

  • @als2cents679
    @als2cents67927 күн бұрын

    In your solution validation you only plugged values in one of the simultaneous equation. You really need to plug into both of the original simultaneous equations to validate that the solution is valid.

  • @user-lz9xu2bn8p
    @user-lz9xu2bn8p27 күн бұрын

    🎉

  • @duncan-rmi
    @duncan-rmi24 күн бұрын

    I did it in my head. but what sort of pen is that? do they do them in other colours?

  • @user-ft8ws5tt1x
    @user-ft8ws5tt1x12 күн бұрын

    В первую секунду я подумал, что a=b, и во вторую секунду меня обломали)

  • @arshadshaikh5905
    @arshadshaikh590522 күн бұрын

    a = b = 9.05863

  • @dellagobaikal8205
    @dellagobaikal82055 күн бұрын

    The proposed solution is too much complicated. Below proposed by G is more technical.

  • @soniamariadasilveira7003
    @soniamariadasilveira700327 күн бұрын

    I loved this problem!

  • @godot-lee
    @godot-lee17 күн бұрын

    a = 8, b = -9 or a = -9, b = 8

  • @evgenysapotnitsky8234
    @evgenysapotnitsky823421 күн бұрын

    Задача, на самом деле, очень простая. Вычитаем второе уравнение из первого и после преобразований получаем (a-b)(a+b+1)=0. Отсюда следует a=-1-b (a не равно b по условию задачи). Подставляем полученное выражение для "a" во второе уравнение и получаем b^2+b-72=0. Решаем квадратное уравнение и получаем ответ: 1) b=8, a=-9; 2)b=-9, a=8. Тринадцать минут на такую задачу - очевидный перебор))

  • @evbdevy352

    @evbdevy352

    18 күн бұрын

    Я тоже решил именно так,отнял от(1) (2).Получил такое же кв.урав-е.

  • @evbdevy352

    @evbdevy352

    18 күн бұрын

    Потратил не более 5 мин.На Олимп.ге тянет

  • @user-jk4dn1re9r
    @user-jk4dn1re9r21 күн бұрын

    Очень интересно. Спасибо

  • @user-jk4dn1re9r

    @user-jk4dn1re9r

    21 күн бұрын

    Хотя есть и более простые методы решения, но эта игра с формулами мне понравилась.

  • @learncommunolizer

    @learncommunolizer

    16 күн бұрын

    Your welcome

  • @user-we7eh6lk8m
    @user-we7eh6lk8m11 күн бұрын

    а=-9, b=8

  • @user-xq8cg3gf5f
    @user-xq8cg3gf5f24 күн бұрын

    81-8=73 64+9=73

  • @TWJRPGGamming
    @TWJRPGGamming5 күн бұрын

    a=-9 b=8

  • @user-xh3ih4ks9y
    @user-xh3ih4ks9y4 күн бұрын

    a=8 b=-9

  • @lisandro73
    @lisandro7327 күн бұрын

    There are two more real, when a and b are irrational

  • @user-sx6vo6ne5f
    @user-sx6vo6ne5f26 күн бұрын

    :))))))))) Jak można tak rozwlekać proste zadanie ?!!! było wstawić a=-b-1 do drugiego równania i wynik gotowy z prostego równania kwadratowego b=-9 ; 8 a=8 ; -9

  • @YAWTon

    @YAWTon

    24 күн бұрын

    The same problem with the same solution was uploaded to YT a short while ago. I think this guy just made a copy of that clip... terribly boring, and bad from a didactic point of view.

  • @user-xq8cg3gf5f
    @user-xq8cg3gf5f24 күн бұрын

    а=9 б=-8 !!!

  • @vanessawelles4760
    @vanessawelles476026 күн бұрын

    easy to guess the solution by saying what number squared is is slightly greater than 73. result -9 and 8

  • @salvatorechiocca2375

    @salvatorechiocca2375

    25 күн бұрын

    A

  • @Tiberius88
    @Tiberius8825 күн бұрын

    Long winded. It doesn't take 13 mins to solve this!

  • @YAWTon

    @YAWTon

    24 күн бұрын

    You can halve the time by playing the clip at double speed...😊

  • @user-md4br9kj3i
    @user-md4br9kj3i25 күн бұрын

    Всё конечно красиво, но зачем так сильно раскладывать и расписывать очевидные вещи?

  • @evbdevy352
    @evbdevy35218 күн бұрын

    I have solved by other way.Plused (1) and (2)

  • @soshakobyan3123
    @soshakobyan312322 күн бұрын

    Olympiad problem? I think this is a joke.