I'm self-studying calligraphy as a left-handed individual and everything that I see are oversaturated with right-handed tutorials. Thank you for this :>

@22cct

Жыл бұрын

I so feel you on this!! i've recently gotten back into calligraphy & almost every pointed pen class is with a right-handed instructor. i've gotten rejected by instructors for being left-handed so this video is very much appreciated!!

Thank you, John! This is so helpful. I tried it. My lines are straighter, letter spacing is better and slant is so much more consistent. Thanks again!

Fantastic tips, thank you for the video. I have never considered moving the paper so far around - to be almost 90deg to my body. Looking forward to trying this. Thank you Mr DeCollibus!

Very much appreciate your video. It’s important recommendations such as this that make all the difference to a lefty novice and their ability to progress. I never would have bought a right-handed oblique. Back to my drills.

Thank you so very much. I had no clue what to do to get my hand and pen to work together until I saw your demonstration.

Thank you so much for this, as a newbie left-handed pointed pen user, it is very helpful!🙏🏻✨👍🏻

Thank you for this! I took a copperplate calligraphy course and had to use a right handed oblique holder. I practiced my lettering by holding the paper almost upside-down, which was painful and difficult. Normally I hold my paper almost perpendicular to my body (but in the opposite direction from what you do). I'll be taking a modern calligraphy course this weekend and I'm excited to try out your technique. Hopefully I'll have more success that way! Thanks again!

Wow, in watching John explain how he holds his pen and the relationship with he paper to his body looks as if it would be almost easier to gauge your letter spacing and lowercase form better. I will have to try that. Granted until I get better overall control over my left arm (no ball pitching with that arm), I might be a little sloppy. But I am willing to have a go at it.

this is fabulous, Mr. Decollibus! thanks for doing this, Connie.

@burquenopawprint1591

6 жыл бұрын

Gordon Hall no your name is gordon....lol just joking ..godbless

This helped so much. Thank You. :)

I just got into using fountain pens and looking to start calligraphy as a hobby. I never realized that it's completely different w/ left handers and FP's don't like being pushed. hopefully I'll get over this steep learning curve.

Could u please re-do this video a little closer up so we can see the nib on the paper whilst writing? As a fellow lefty I cannot seem to find an angle that allows the nib to open on a downstroke. Any suggestions are welcome. Thx so much!!

thank you for this :)

amazing

I have always written with the lines perpendicular to me. I remember in school the other kids would make fun of me for doing that even a teacher once told me that i write weird lol. Its just more comfortable for me, I can see everything that I'm writing and I never get ink on my hand or arm. I have noticed though that some right handed people write like this but the paper is obviously in the opposite direction so I honestly don't think its that weird! anyway thanks for the video!

@liser96

6 жыл бұрын

Same with me, my teacher once made me turn my paper "the right way" when I write, and I couldn't do it, it felt wrong and my writing was messier

@zolin4473

6 жыл бұрын

me too!!!

Classic. Nice finger tip, tip. Salutations.

It's sad that today at highschools you aren't taught how to write calligraphy (at least not where i live) ,my parents were the last ones who had a calligraphy lesson in middle school until highschool and i find it more useful than what i had as lessons in school. It's actually such beautiful way of writing ,plus it makes your writing style beautiful as well (maybe not for all ,but my parents have a really read-able and kind of fancy way of writing.)

@jedigaming2251

7 жыл бұрын

HawkEye I know in Kentucky they are making it a new standard for public schools to learn cursive for the next school and on

@PrincessNinja007

6 жыл бұрын

In the day of ballpoint pens and #2 pencils, we don't really need calligraphy, and my parents didn't learn it in school. We have print, we have cursive, and you can learn to get fancy in your own time, but if you want to add it back into the curriculum you'll need to take out typing, which isn't going to happen. Hand-written essays haven't been accepted in 40 years now

@hjubris

5 жыл бұрын

@HawkEye I think you're mixing up calligraphy and cursive handwriting

@mattc16

5 жыл бұрын

Ciara.Chaya While I completely agree with what you’re saying (education in the U.S. needs a lot of improvements and focusing on calligraphy is most definitely wasted education compared to the more important facets of education), 40 years is extremely over exaggerated. I graduated high school back in 2008 (11 years ago) and we were still handwriting everything. I believe the big change in moving everything to digital when it comes to public school education has only been in the last 5 or so years. I’m not saying that nothing was on the computer 11-15 years ago because there was definitely an architecture class on Autocad and digital art class with Photoshop I took in high school. But we were still using overheads with laminated paper and dry erase pens when I graduated lol. I haven’t seen much of what schools use today but I assume all tests are mostly on computers, kids probably bring laptops to high school for notes, and I know there are even programming classes in middle, high, and even some elementary schools. Makes me wish I was born 10 years later so that I could’ve gotten education on programming when I was in middle school and on. I had to teach myself and started around age 13 but was pretty terrible at the time compared to what an instructor could have done.

@duanedean3256

4 жыл бұрын

@@PrincessNinja007 40 years huh? I graduated in 1991 and wrote hand essays into my senior year. No typing / actually its keyboarding doesn't have to be removed to have any type of hand writing introduced. Typing hasnt been in my small school probably since I was in 6th grade, so 1986. To have a class removed is a fallacy and not a good place to be esepcially when talking about schooling/education.

thanks a lot

This is so helpful. Thank you! I appreciate you making this video!

Lmao I find this so funny. Everyone is commenting about how difficult it must be to turn the paper to an angle or having the letters be vertical to you. And I’m just here like: yo! That’s how I normally write anything regardless of calligraphy or not 😂 as a lefty it nearly hurts to keep my hand completely straight to the paper. Some lefties will write with a hook and others will turn their paper exactly like that in every day writing. It’s completely normal lol

So Beautiful.

What about upside down? I do it and work pretty well, though in still learning and I dont know if it would be a problem for some calligraphy style

How can I film close up left handed calligraphy? Any tips

Thank you. I write with my paper turned completely sideways like you show in the last of your video. I'm just getting started. It's so much or a challenge finding the right nib. Any suggestions?

@charlesk.sarles3166

6 жыл бұрын

Nikko G is one I've had some success with as a lefty myself! :) can't say i've tried too too many. I'm working through the Spencerian handbook right now and the Nikko G and a Zebra G are the two I've used. I like the Nikko better, plus theyre quite good for drawing as well! Happy nib hunting! PS I've read on a few websites that many people enjoy the zebra G quite a bit more. Up to you.

Hi! I would be interested in showing you how I letter. I see everyone post that the main approaches are over, straight or side hand, but I have never found a lefty that holds their paper and pen in the way that I do? I never realized it until I started to watch videos on KZread to better my calligraphy skills. Oddly enough that was also the first time I had ever heard that it was an 'odd' or hard thing for lefties to do calligraphy. Some peopke even sayingnthey thought it wss impossible and now seeing how they hold the pen and paper I can see why they felt that way! It was then that I realized I have a very odd technique.. I write the letters backwards and upside down from a 'side' to 'straight' (under?) approach with my paper at either a 45° angle to completely upside down? Making the letters titally upside down as in my over turn and under turn perfectly backwards in pressure, but when finished look just like the normal push-pull technique. My paper position depends on upper case, lower case and flourishing andbto make it more strange I also from d few of the letters as a righty does with my pen witking as a right hander.. Very weird after seeing these left handed videos! My mind is blown as I can not really be the only person that this came natural to, can I? It would make sense how life I have felt dyslexic my whole life. The more I was around lefties (tons in my life/family now that I am married to a lefty as well) I realized thst I am basically a righty other than to eat and write. I hit, bat, throw snowboard, open a jar, cut, hold a baby... all with my right. Seeing my husband do all those things a true lefty, blew my mind. It looks so so strange! Him seeing how I wrote, held my paper (and do basically everything) blew his. Haha It's crazy how I never knew my whole life that I was doing things oddly until I lived with someone else! thank you for the video if I can find a way to post a video of how I write (technically wrong but looks right) I would be interested to hear what you think. I'm also curious if u do all the other tasks in life with your left or do u find your right hand/right side natural? My mom told me growing up that it was because all teachers and coaches teach you one way so I addapted to the right... but I'm wondering if maybe it was that she pushed the for me to be a left? Very interesting.. Thanks for sharing!

@holdmybeer

8 жыл бұрын

+Frankie tower I'm the same way. I write and eat with left but I use the right hand for many other things( welding, baseball bat, throwing a ball, ect) funny thing is, I feel like I should use a mouse left handed but all the mouses in the 80s were on the right side. so now I use a mouse right handed.

@ladymanga6575

2 жыл бұрын

I'm also an *only a leftie for eating and writing*! Not dyslexic though but I'd love to see how you do it because it's fun comparing things like that. My dad and baby sis are also lefties but they are true lefties as far as I can tell. I've always thought my way of writing was weird as I also turn my paper 45° but I've been struggling trying to do calligraphy with a straight holder so I'm glad I found this video as I think this might be just the tip I needed!

its so uncomfortable for me to hold a pen or pencil like that...

A video with the same music was representing it as “Mongol Music”.Also , it does sound more like Mongol Music.

Teachers ALWAYS say “45 degrees” or “8 degrees”. I say from WHAT! The lines? The edge of the paper, WHAT!

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I'm ambidextrous and it's hard choosing which hand to right with. Any suggestions

@ConnieChencalligraphy

5 жыл бұрын

I would choose righty. It makes it much easier to find supplies.

I appreciate your talent....but I wanted to see much more writing.....quick brown fox type of stuff. ....and camera needed to zoom a little more...but TY for the demo. now I know what pen I should be using.

can you please tell me what font/script you use, and if there is a book I can purchase to follow? I would dearly love to write like this but so far (Being a leftie) I am failing miserably.

@kevintran8176

6 жыл бұрын

tubeisace madarasz script

My reverse-slanted underwriting, makes it impossible to do calligraphy.

I'm left handed and right handed what do they call that ampadextrous or somthing

@mobileuser369

6 жыл бұрын

Pop tastic ambidextrous

@diamond2405

6 жыл бұрын

Mobile User o my bad

The 'hook demonstration' is actually side-writing, and not the hook position at all...

....and!....

I am not being able to find a single place which sells these Right Hand Oblique Holders...Not a single place.....

@mohammedibrahim4256

7 жыл бұрын

Jeet Dasgupta try jetpens.com they do international shipping by fedex

@professionalpotato4764

6 жыл бұрын

PaperInkArts, or John Neal books sell them. I personally shop from PaperInkArts more often. Etsy also has some cheap ones. Yoke Pen company also sells cheap plastic ones from around $8, and about $40 for a basic wooden one. When picking one, ideally the brass flange should be pointing slightly upwards if the pen is resting on the table. Many pen makers make the flange parallel to the pen body. Having the angle slightly upwards allows for really comfortable and easy writing, but depending on ink choices, the ink might puddle from the nib since the angle of the nib is low. Personally I've been slowly working towards a larger angle to accommodate more variation of inks/nib combinations. The diagram below is all side view. I personally write more with the angle shown in the bottom right. imgur.com/a/vzaUI

@stephenhauer9055

5 жыл бұрын

I am rather late to comment, but check out sellers on Etsy, that make left hand oblique holders, maybe they'd be able to make you a right hand oblique one.

Uhm. Why would you use a left handed oblique pen when overwriting? Just use the left handed oblique pen when using the underwriting technique, then you don't have to angle the paper?

I want to tell all of you being a left handed is so hard becuse everyone thinks I'm deferent. They me hate for that and I always feel sad for this

I’m confused. The only difference I saw from the second and third method was that he changed his pen. What did I miss? He should’ve kept the same pen in all examples.

Interesting. As a lefty I had come to the conclusion that any kind of calligraphy is just impossible since you have to pull and not push. The only solution would be to write from right to left... Your solution is great , but before your brain gets used to looking at letters upside down, you must get some serious headaches. Anyway, I think that letting kids write lefty is a mistake, as you can perfectly learn to write and do lots of things with the opposite hand. The so-called psychological damage of being forced to write with the right hand always sounded to me like 60s hippie BS, especially when compared with the abandonment and humiliation left-handed kids must face at the very early stages of schooling. Anyway thanks for giving us your approach.

@altar7885

8 жыл бұрын

+Lisa Surlie For the reasons I mentioned in my previous comment. Lefties suffer at school, and teachers aren't trained to teach them properly. The author of the video has found a workaround, but staring at vertical letters must be pretty tiring. As I said, it's probably much easier to train a child to write with the other hand, since lefties are often already ambidexter for a number of things.

@professionalpotato4764

8 жыл бұрын

Well, it's tough but clearly it's not impossible as proven in this video. Of course getting used to different angles will be really tough as well. But honestly I don't think there is a need to force kids to be a right hander. Some can't even be forced. My parents tried for several months to make me use my right hand, but I always ended up reverting to my left. I personally have never had any humiliation at school. Rather, my classmates thought it was awesome. But I agree that not only is today's society neglecting handwriting training, teachers are no longer trained to teach lefties even if they taught penmanship. Reasoning behind left-handers while not completely proven true, has been somewhat assumed to be linked with human evolution - in this case, the hard-wiring of the brain motor skills. There are certain parts of the bodies that our predecessors might have used for hunting and whatnot, which slowly became obsolete and changed. It could be that lefties played a particular role in the past, most likely in specific handling of tools. I can't remember where I read the journal on this though, but it was a fairly interesting read. For some simple proof of evolution in our bodies, press your thumb, middle finger and ring finger together, just like you would to imitate a dog shape. then with palms facing up, curl your wrists towards you so those 3 fingers point at you. It is very likely 1 side of your wrist will have an additional tendon.

@LastLifeVR

7 жыл бұрын

I was able to do left handed calligraphy in highschool, I basically had to do things backwards and figure out my own way to do it, try to get a pen ink and practice see if you can before giving up :]

@BLexl

6 жыл бұрын

No it isn't. It's just laziness of the teacher to teach lefthanded kids. They would have to think the other way round.. And you can't expect that from an adult, right... Force the kid to use its weak hand, easier. Brilliant idea 😠

This is aweful to watch

This video isnt for a left handed beginner. Its also very dark, and difficult to see what the man is doing. Im going to give my calligraphy set away to someone as a gift. Life is just too short for me, a perfectly adapted Left hander to start writing like a spastic... 😂😂😂😂

It's sad that today at highschools you aren't taught how to write calligraphy (at least not where i live) ,my parents were the last ones who had a calligraphy lesson in middle school until highschool and i find it more useful than what i had as lessons in school. It's actually such beautiful way of writing ,plus it makes your writing style beautiful as well (maybe not for all ,but my parents have a really read-able and kind of fancy way of writing.)