Practical Penmanship: Left Hand Palmer is Easier!?

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ABOUT THIS VIDEO
This week we are covering the subject of whole arm movement, or muscular movement in handwriting, also know as the Palmer Method of Business Handwriting.
Implementing whole arm movement into my left handed cursive in a forward direction has resulted in some unexpected outcomes. Firstly, I have found that movements required in order to practically use whole arm writing are actually easier than they are with the right hand. My right hand is still decades ahead of the my left hand, however, if I continue to practice this style of left handed writing I may actually surpass the abilities of my right hand.
I highly recommend that you give this style of writing a shot and continue to work to fully embrace it as your primary style of writing.
Pay very close attention to the placement of your arm as you practice and remember that the writing arm stays in its fixed position and the right hand will move your paper across your writing zone. This collaboration between hands is very important.
Do note that my position shown is what is most comfortable for me. If you do not find my position comfortable you will simply have to experiment with the placement of your forearm. You do not want your shoulder to be pushed up in any way and rather want it to be relaxed. This relaxed style of writing is very different compared to a lot of the cramped writing positions taken up today. Correcting your positioning may actually be the most difficult part of implementing this new style of writing.
Feel free to post any questions below! #PracticalPenmanship

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  • @DieyenDualPen
    @DieyenDualPen6 жыл бұрын

    I would love to get some natural lefties feedback on this technique.

  • @TraveltheRedRoad

    @TraveltheRedRoad

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm a natural lefty but have awful penmanship skills and am seeking to improve my handwriting, I will be looking further into this technique after giving it a quick tryout yielded positive results. Normal problems for a lefty is the old "covering up as I'm writing" problem which results in either smudged, messy writing or contorted grip and cramp. To further compound my disastrous handwriting style I seem to "sketch" my words meaning that rather than clearly writing I give an impression of the word instead. I do this especially when my hand gets tired of writing. This seems like a useful technique to help remedy some of those problems. thanks for sharing

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sharing! Keep me updated with your progress! I'll make more left hand forward writing videos to show how my progress is coming along. Good luck!

  • @musicalknight4900

    @musicalknight4900

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ive been left handed as long as I could remeber. Always had awfull handwriting lol

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't have to be :)

  • @938thave

    @938thave

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have been a side writing lefty for over fifty years and am now taking the time to learn to under write. I have been exploring whole arm writing, the Palmer method, and finding the sweet spot for paper rotation angle vis a vis my left hand/arm and my body. You turn the paper further clockwise (starting from perpendicular to the body and desk edge) than is comfortable for me; I keep it closer to 45 degrees, but your approach does encourage a more natural arm swing for the up and down strokes rather than pushing and pulling them through the letters if the hand is fully underneath them as you write. All that said, the unlearning/relearning muscle memory and the associated eye and brain connections is worth the hours of practice.

  • @edithuche7125
    @edithuche71254 жыл бұрын

    Like if you're a left hander

  • @matilda7298

    @matilda7298

    4 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @potatogirl7681

    @potatogirl7681

    4 жыл бұрын

    Le random KZread loser shut it

  • @whatzafuk

    @whatzafuk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@potatogirl7681 you too

  • @michaelafton5816

    @michaelafton5816

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@whatzafuk you too

  • @chaoticrin

    @chaoticrin

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@potatogirl7681 you too

  • @conniecamp5749
    @conniecamp5749 Жыл бұрын

    Hello. I just discovered this. What useful advice! I am a 75 year old lefty who has always struggled to have beautiful handwriting. I remember in first grade, Mrs. Smith taking extra time with me to teach me how to hold my paper like that. She wasnt even my own first grade teacher, but when my mom reached out to her she stepped up. Unfortunately, my other early grade teachers did nothing to encourage my left handed way of doing things. Remember those were still the years when left handed people were forced to use their right hand. At least that didn't happen to me. So here I am wanting to fulfill my dream of having what i consider to be beautiful penmanship before I die. 😅 i think I'll give it a go!

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you've found it useful! I think we should all learn to write with both hands from the get go. Best of luck on continuing your handwriting journey!

  • @seemabohre1290
    @seemabohre12905 жыл бұрын

    the thing that annoys me is that in our school makes us use gel pen and my handwriting is so smudgy! my left hand covered with ink

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes this definitely very annoying. In this video and my other video I show you how I write under the line to avoid smudging with the left hand

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sneaky

  • @Aakshi-cy4hb

    @Aakshi-cy4hb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just place a cloth or a sheet underneath your hand so your hand doesnt rub against the paper

  • @Ok-wb4du

    @Ok-wb4du

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hate that! It’s so inconsiderate. 🥲

  • @soominie5935

    @soominie5935

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Aakshi-cy4hb and how do I see what I’m writing then?

  • @iHYDT
    @iHYDT4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve had a lot of trouble being a left handed and this has helped me a lot. Thanks so much.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm so very happy that you've found value on this. Thanks so much for the kind words. All the best on your handwriting journey.

  • @gormiksoc
    @gormiksoc3 жыл бұрын

    I am a natural leftie, I've been writing palmer style with a hook but it's not that comfortable so I am transitioning into this method with a mirrored angle of a right handed position. I find it difficult to imagine the movement in my head from this angle for now, but if I keep practicing the letters I'll hopefully get used to it.

  • @thelistener1268
    @thelistener12683 жыл бұрын

    Writing forms was successful for me but implementing whole arm movement seemed impossible. This technique unlocks that. Thank you!

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's fantastic! I'm very happy you've found the video helpful

  • @-aiixhwxrya-4673
    @-aiixhwxrya-46733 жыл бұрын

    Being a lefty never had a problem with handwriting but still wanted to improve as there are no limits

  • @AdamGoodson
    @AdamGoodson3 жыл бұрын

    I have never used this but I am open to trying the drills as well. I am a leftie and enjoy writing and get a lot of compliments on my handwriting. I think my handwriting is actually rather strange and bad because I was pretty much taught to make letters the same way as right handed people but with my left hand. This video was helpful for me to see how I could flow my left-handed writing more naturally. Thank you.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    This technique is really under explored for left handers. I even know left handers that have switched to right hand just to implement arm writing. Glad you've found the video useful. Best of luck on your journey!

  • @Tasha_75

    @Tasha_75

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was taught the same way.

  • @feuerundwasser282
    @feuerundwasser2824 жыл бұрын

    Hey there, Daniel! I can approve as left handed person that Palmer method and spencerian or copperplate with oblique holder in left hand are much easier to write then with a right hand. You never have to do push pull moves and you never stuck with the elbow in table.

  • @feuerundwasser282

    @feuerundwasser282

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also now, I think writing with whole arm movement is more natural for left hand then for right. With right hand is better to write with fingers.

  • @feuerundwasser282

    @feuerundwasser282

    4 жыл бұрын

    For a better angle I rotate the paper around 85-90 degrees to my wrist.

  • @jentai7536
    @jentai75365 жыл бұрын

    My first observatios as a lefty overwriter trying this method : positioning the top of the paper perpendicular to the right edge of the table keeps the left hand well under the writing, which avoids smudge. BUT causes my slant to go vertical. Writing with side to side movements rather than push and pull corrects the slant until about the center of the page, after which the Palmer method renders chaotic marks. I fing that tilting paper to 45° angle to the right gives a better slant but then I'm gliding over the ink again which will cause smudging. I have some neck strain because my head keeps tilting towards the left, but that needs adaptation to this new posture. And lastly, I find holding the pen higher with lighter pressure is excellent. So for me, Palmer is probably not a panacea, but possibly in combination with other methods.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    thanks so much for sharing your experience and insight! Forgive me for not responding sooner. Your observation is very thorough and I really appreciate your time.

  • @Ok-wb4du
    @Ok-wb4du2 жыл бұрын

    Right handed person: writes normally Left handed person: *twists and turns paper*

  • @izeahhernandez6999
    @izeahhernandez69995 жыл бұрын

    I found this video to be extremely helpful! I’m a lefty myself & I’ve been wanting to start writing with a fountain pen, & that style of writing as well as the handwriting is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Have any practice sheets I may try out as a lefty with that writing style? Again, I appreciate the video! Have a good one!

  • @mohsinnazir4064

    @mohsinnazir4064

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @danjf1
    @danjf15 жыл бұрын

    very nice handwriting, Good instruction, well understood

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you sir :)

  • @staceycoates1418
    @staceycoates14185 жыл бұрын

    I did not watch the video on Palmer's so what I do may not have anything to do with you are trying to show. I find that I use my elbow to pivot. My elbow is on the table, about the midpoint of the paper. So I move my arm up a bit to start the line, at the mid point of the page my arm is perpendicular and then I start moving my arm towards me for the last half of the line. I do use my pinky to stabilize my hand while I am writing. Since I am an underhand writer it is about an inch or two below where I am writing.

  • @hollyjollylollymolly3160
    @hollyjollylollymolly31606 жыл бұрын

    I think the trick there is with the finger that holds the pen below , you have to pay attention to that finger because it guides the wrist , I use a quadripod grip and I use my smallest finger to hold the pen "under" it as a support, you may use your middle finger as you use a tripod grip. Since you're pointing the pen to right side instead of the left, it's more similar to right hand writing tendencies, so applying pressure to the paper is easier, but I'd prefer going smoothly by the way.

  • @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    6 жыл бұрын

    Holding the pen tighter BTW your fingers is also easier bc the way the pen is pointed.

  • @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    6 жыл бұрын

    Also.... holding the pen farther from the tip is better with the left hand.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure I understand well what you mean by "you have to pay attention to that finger because it guides the wrist" It may be more because you're over contracting your finger with the quadripod grip that it is effecting your wrist. The tripod grip for me has come most naturally and I haven't seen anyone who is highly skilled use or recommend any other grip. I also don't understand when you say "I'd prefer going smoothly by the way." This style of writing is the smoothest I've found. Now that I've been practicing for a few weeks I see little hindrance and it accommodates the pivots of your arm very nicely, maybe even better than it might a right handed style of writing. Your grip should never be tight by the way, your fingers should be relaxed. If you fingernails change colors you are holding the pen too tight. How high you hold your pen up on the barrel matters very little I think. I show you at 11:50

  • @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry if these tricks don't work out for you, everybody writes in a manner they find more comfortable, I'm used to quadripods grips since as a kid and I also don't write for a living, but I what I've also been trying to say is that I believe the trick in how you control your grip, and practicing how strong you hold it, but I believe the writing position comes naturally when you get used to the grip you use, whether or not it's a tripod, quadripod or held like a toddler.

  • @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm also trying to say is that. .. experience with the fingers of your tripod grip, go slow, change strength. Try changing style with the thumb and with the middle finger of your grip. I'm out of advice.

  • @watching_nyc
    @watching_nyc3 ай бұрын

    Very interesting topic and I appreciate your attention to detail. I’m admittedly a penmanship newbie but the professional cellist in me sees tension in your wrist being cocked that way. I realize it probably feels stable to you but that is definitely not a “natural” position for the hand to be in. Would a straighter wrist completely mess you up? I’m only curious because I’m ambidextrous but lean lefty especially when writing. As a middle aged adult I’m trying to relearn penmanship and I realized I also held a pen in a similar way for most of my life. I’ve slowly been trying to “correct” my bad habits and this is one that helped a lot. Thanks for the tips though! You are pretty talented and I appreciate the video.

  • @emryshale4989
    @emryshale49893 жыл бұрын

    Will try this technique Pointless anecdote: throughout grade school i had a few teachers try to tell me i was writing with the wrong hand. I don't have as harsh experiences as some lefties (some people had to sit on their hand or do some things that were just cruel) but I was called out on it on various occasions bc I was the only lefty in most of my classes so I stood out. It would be embarrassing and I was a shy kid as it was. I was also raised to not argue with or talk back to adults so I was trying to find a way to defend myself without getting in trouble 🙃 I also knew someone in middle school that was born left handed, but his family is fairly wealthy (not ultra rich, but still high status) and his grandmother forced him to write with his right hand because left handedness is so taboo for some reason. Now he can't write with his left hand at all.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least you kept your handedness :) I think we should all learn to write with both hands. Let me know if the technique works for you.

  • @bmxt939
    @bmxt939Ай бұрын

    I can't find more comfortable option for left handed writing, than just writing mirrored letter from righ to left. It's hard to read, but easy to write.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Ай бұрын

    Writing mirror with the left hand is the most natural. That's why right handers have an advantage writing the normal direction. Pulling across the page is ideal. Try writing forward with the right hand.

  • @rameshpalanichamy7197
    @rameshpalanichamy71974 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Thank you for your reply. Yes it happened one year ago. Now I can able to write in my left-hand example 23 lines in A4 sheet 18 minutes. You know everything that is the difficulties the left-hand person before anyone had a right-hand person. But now I am facing a pen problem. Which pen have I to select .? If you any image-based pen picture please post me. It my request. Thanks

  • @Dreamingcalligrapher
    @Dreamingcalligrapher6 жыл бұрын

    Thats very interesting. I myself am also an ambidextrous penman. I'm naturally left-handed but took up the pen with my right hand, thinking that would ultimately be more optimal. I've seen marbus' videos, but never thought to try that style with my left hand. Do you think it's necessary to hold the pen that far back on the barrel, as he does?

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Hi M. J. Awesome to find another ambidextrous penman! How far along is your right hand? To your question, no I do not think holding the barrel up so high is necessary. I think one reason he might do that is because he using a very fine, and potentially scratchy nib to write. I have found in replicating him that I enjoy the higher grip because that allows for a smoother part of nib to write. Where if you grip the barrel closer to the nib the pens angle to the paper will increase and you will most likely have a scratchier experience. But in general, no I don't think it's necessary as I've been able to replicate the movement gripping down lower on the barrel. I show you in this video at 11:50

  • @Dreamingcalligrapher

    @Dreamingcalligrapher

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh, gotcha. I miss the part in the video where you answered my question. I've been practicing very regularly for a year and seven months now. Over the past five months I've been weeding out some bad habits that I formed when I was first learning, and have seen the most improvement since then.

  • @Dreamingcalligrapher

    @Dreamingcalligrapher

    2 жыл бұрын

    @MSN Hey, MSN, that's okay. Even after all this time, I am still writing with my right hand as a lefty. I have moved away from business penmanship and now write a style of calligraphy called Engrosser's Script. You mentioned that you do lots of oval drills and push-pull drills. This is really good. I think doing lots of drills like this can be very helpful in developing muscular control in your right arm. Apart from that, it simply takes lots of consistency and practice. It took me a year of writing a little everyday before my right arm started to feel comfortable with the pen.

  • @AndyIsLazy18
    @AndyIsLazy18 Жыл бұрын

    Instructions unclear i become a right handed after doing it 😂

  • @d.eanna_93
    @d.eanna_93 Жыл бұрын

    The only left hander on both sides of my family, hello! 😊 I noticed that his thumb is above the header… I tend to lead forward too. Sometimes I write sideways while holding the page across my stomach/under chest. Odd Ik, but this is the most comfortable position for me to write in.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for sharing! A natural left handers input is always helpful.

  • @kellyfranca7355
    @kellyfranca73556 жыл бұрын

    I want to thank you for the latest tips on left handed grips, but when I write my wrist keeps like yours: pushed to the left. Sometimes I feel like I can be a closet righty for feeling so uncomfortable writing.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Kelly França you're welcome, I'm sorry it couldn't be of more help. Have you ever injured your wrist?

  • @kellyfranca7355

    @kellyfranca7355

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen No never, but I learned to write upside down being left handed, and now after some decades, Ive been trying to correct It, that pain I feel must be cuz im not used with some new grip yet. In the video, why dont you support your hand in the paper leaf? I have difficulty to support mine.

  • @nashecasama28
    @nashecasama28 Жыл бұрын

    My teacher said that my handwritings are ugly and terrible andi feel very sad thats why i search this video so i could learn to improve my handwritings

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry. It's never too late to improve your handwriting 😊

  • @aseela4517
    @aseela45173 жыл бұрын

    Thx smmmm ✨✨💖

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @janjcks
    @janjcks Жыл бұрын

    I have been a lefty all my life I am 63 and have always held my pen higher up and with a light grip, but since everything is all email these days my handwriting has got really scruffy so I am practising at getting it neater again

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    Best of luck!

  • @trinabuoniconti4552
    @trinabuoniconti4552 Жыл бұрын

    I'm left handed and I feel like gaining more strength in my wrist will definitely help with my penmanship. It is harder writing left handed as a pose to roght.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't say that it's harder but the direction in which we write is more convenient for the right hand. So the left is at a disadvantage. That's why I primarily write mirror image with my left hand. Pulling across the page is more natural

  • @kawaiicreations1874
    @kawaiicreations18744 жыл бұрын

    I’m naturally left-handed, but in kindergarten my teacher made me use my right hand, after many years and me finding out I’m left handed, I’m now ambidextrous (uwu)

  • @imchangingaccountnoreason1103

    @imchangingaccountnoreason1103

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kawaii Creations same but its kinda cool cause you can use both hands

  • @patwagner9308

    @patwagner9308

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a lefty who was encouraged to be a righty by my dad. But I developed all sorts of ways to do things left-handed but appearing to do it right-handed. The brain is left or right dominant. Should not be messed with. My dad meant well. He was a kind person . The neat thing is : it caused me to be ambidextrous.

  • @SoulpunkTVshow
    @SoulpunkTVshow24 күн бұрын

    Upvoted because you cite your source from another KZreadr!

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    19 күн бұрын

    Got to give folks credit

  • @gormikayelyan9793
    @gormikayelyan97933 жыл бұрын

    If I am gonna start using whole arm movement, would it I be better off just learning to write with my right hand instead of relearning writing with my left( I am a leftie)? With left I would have to put the paper in an opposite angle than what I am used to, whereas with right hand, I just have a clean slate.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not a bad idea and you wouldn't be the first to start learning arm movement with right hand over your natural left. I would say go for it!

  • @patrickmccormack4318
    @patrickmccormack43183 жыл бұрын

    Marbus' high finger position: Better observation of what he is writing and lighter touch.

  • @m.hasnainbutt9672
    @m.hasnainbutt9672 Жыл бұрын

    I am a natural lefty and I want to improve my handwriting

  • @channelsixtynine069
    @channelsixtynine069 Жыл бұрын

    Mine will be the same, but in reverse slant. I cannot write like a right handed writer.

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix0663 жыл бұрын

    I have the page tilted the same as this. 02:13 But my writing has a heavy back-slant. It was too painful for me to ever get a forward slant. The other thing, my writing improves when written in pencil, because I need the resistance that a pencil lead provides. A ballpoint pen glides too easily and I lose control of it. And no, I don't like fountain pens.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    How's your body position, elbow placement and are you rest on the side of your hand?

  • @channelsixtysix066

    @channelsixtysix066

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen My body position and the angle of my arm is as close to normal positioning as I can get it, for a lefthanded writer. That was the reasoning behind back slanting my letters; both cursive, block lettering. The other reason was speed. I was able to write faster with less stopping so your hand could "catch up" to the writing. My writing is perfectly legible and neat, but in reverse slant. I don't do writing much any more, preferring to touch type instead. The pencils I use are the 2mm Staedtler mechanical clutch pencil with H leads. I use a "Koh I Noor 992" lead pointer. I rarely smudge my writing, but if I do, then I'm not self-conscious of it like I used to be. It's a case of if you don't it, too bad, I'm left handed. I can, naturally read and write mirror writing, but that isn't practical for 90% of the population.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah for casual writing I don't think you should ever be ashamed of smudging. It's your paper angle? I can't seem to naturally replicate the back slant.

  • @Happyflute007
    @Happyflute0075 жыл бұрын

    Teach me to write with both hands.. That too two different languages at same time please bro..

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Two different languages at the same time!? I've done a little bit of that but I'm by no means an authority and teacher on that subject. I teach people to write with both hands but normally I teach them to write with each hand individually.

  • @OJ3462

    @OJ3462

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can write with both hands two totally different stories, cause I'm a lefty... Jk

  • @zipityzap8399
    @zipityzap83995 жыл бұрын

    Are you going to make a follow-up video?

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I'm glad you're interested! I can definitely work a progress video into my schedule.

  • @zipityzap8399

    @zipityzap8399

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix0663 жыл бұрын

    The limited range of motion with your left hand is due to the fact that left to right writing is primarily for right handers. 10:37 Writing right handed, you are dragging the pen across the page, left handed you are pushing the pen, so you can only push it so far, before you have to stop. The only way to fix this, is write in mirror writing, where everything is reversed, so the left hand is now dragging the pen across the page.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree it is certainly designed to be more conducive for righties. I primarily write left handed in mirror image

  • @channelsixtysix066

    @channelsixtysix066

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen Are you naturally ambidextrous or did you teach yourself? Or are you naturally right handed? I'm left handed and that is it, as well as left footed, preferred eye is my left even though it is optically inferior to my right. Attempting to use my right hand to do the same tasks is a hopeless exercise. I first started mirror writing without having to teach myself. It was as natural as breathing. Letters are perfectly formed and flow easily. I was even surprised.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm naturally right handed but have been writing with both hands for 8 years. I mainly write mirror image with left hand. I practice other ambidextrous tasks such as drawing, brushing my teeth, playing ukulele, dart throwing. I practice as much as I can. I was pretty surprised too at how quickly I picked up the mirror writing.

  • @CynnamonSpyder

    @CynnamonSpyder

    Ай бұрын

    That's probably true, but is really discouraging. I guess I'll just have shitty handwriting for my entire life.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    19 күн бұрын

    @CynnamonSpyder you can learn to write with both hands like me! That simple act will improve your writing ability

  • @287margot
    @287margot6 ай бұрын

    Beautiful. Although I don’t know why you also rotate 90° the paper when writing with you right hand where, supposedly, it is not necessary. But, beautiful anyway.Thanks.

  • @voz805
    @voz8057 ай бұрын

    Thanks for offering this but I could never have the paper so sideways, nor could I hold the pen so high without it becoming unwieldy. I write without the hook - I recently learned at a NIH site that 51% of lefties use the hook method. It never occurred to me to write that way. Left handed people would have better writing if we could write backwards, many of us started out writing our names that way.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    7 ай бұрын

    Certainly not easy. It's difficult even for right handers to switch over to whole arm/muscular movement writing. I do have one friend who writes left handed using hook and has very beautiful cursive handwriting. I totally agree, and think everyone should learn to write with both hands from the beginning of education, left hand writes backwards (mirror) and right hand "forward." If we do that problem gone!

  • @ad1tyachaudhary
    @ad1tyachaudhary4 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I am looking for a fast writing style for my exam which is descriptive type and requires to write in a time-bound manner. I am left-handed. Now I write print+jointing but it's slow. The style should be legible easily by examiner.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good luck on your search, I hope you may find my videos of assistance. A quick and legible writing style can take hundreds of hours to develop, do not delay.

  • @ad1tyachaudhary

    @ad1tyachaudhary

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the reply, I am thinking to practice palmer method( it seems fast). I will greatly appreciate your feedback( Should I look out for other methods?)!

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would say yes. I do not know of a more practical hand. Although there are other beautiful styles to choose from, I'm partial towards the American penmanship styles

  • @teteeheeted
    @teteeheeted2 жыл бұрын

    i hate the lack of teaching for left handed writing, thank you for this series

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    2 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure, I hope it helps!

  • @a.k0909
    @a.k090923 күн бұрын

    Thankfully I'm already left handed since my birth . 😊

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    19 күн бұрын

    Nice

  • @iam_jinansh
    @iam_jinansh5 жыл бұрын

    I m one of the lefties n I 😍 this technique

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    So glad to hear it :)

  • @MyHealthyPlate_recipes
    @MyHealthyPlate_recipes3 жыл бұрын

    2:45-2:46 tattoo

  • @joe5004
    @joe50042 жыл бұрын

    What are any other possible drills for writing with a non-dominant hand still in the works? (Left hand)

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good question there's not much literature on this.

  • @joe5004

    @joe5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen as in like what other drills can I do daily to improve left hand writing?

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    2 жыл бұрын

    If naturally right handed I would work on writing in mirror image left handed. I have a couple videos on that. Otherwise movement drills will help build muscle memory. You can repeat letters and also study letter exemplars to perfect those letters.

  • @joe5004

    @joe5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen ❤️

  • @amberschmidt268
    @amberschmidt2682 жыл бұрын

    I'm a lefty and I have done the hook writing style since I can remember.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    2 жыл бұрын

    As long your comfortable writing that is great. I couldn't find that position comfortable nor was it conducive to the style of writing I am aiming for in this video.

  • @AmbiCahira
    @AmbiCahira Жыл бұрын

    This is crazy interesting but I want to warn you that holding your wrist drastically bent back like that would cause wrist damage long term so I would encourage trying to find a straighter wrist posture.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @violetcrystal333
    @violetcrystal3335 жыл бұрын

    When I write with my left hand, only my fingers moves When I write with my right only my wrist moves AndI actually hold my pen differently depending on what hand I am using. Left: Dynamic tripod Right: thumb is tucked in with other fingers What is your opinion on this? Is this normal if ambidextrous? I am not naturally ambidextrous btw, I taught myself

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting, which hand is your dominant hand, and how long have you been teaching yourself?

  • @violetcrystal333

    @violetcrystal333

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen My parents tell that I was born a righty, but I now use my left hand for literally everything. I have training/writing with my left hand for ~2 years. The first year i would switch to get used to my left hand and the next year I would only use my left hand. I still really only write with my left hand.

  • @violetcrystal333

    @violetcrystal333

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen I also noticed that you taught yourself to write with both hands too. Which hand do prefer to write with?

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's right. I much prefer the right hand still but the left hand is better at some things like spacing and straight on blank sheets of paper. I usually write once a day in mirror image with my left hand. Then do all my normal writing right handed.

  • @violetcrystal333

    @violetcrystal333

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen I taught myself to mirror write with my left hand, but my righthand was abler to copy it. Meaning that I did not have to train my right hand to mirror write which is intesrting imo

  • @themusicplayerrjs4055
    @themusicplayerrjs40559 ай бұрын

    ❤5

  • @rameshpalanichamy7197
    @rameshpalanichamy71975 жыл бұрын

    I got writer's cramp in my right hand. So I am not able to hold my pen in my right hand. So i started to write left hand. I got some instructions from your video. Thanks. But still my hand writing is slow. How to improve fast like right.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    It takes many years of practice. Insta how the right hand got fast and comfortable with writing. Glad ti know this video helped you :)

  • @rameshpalanichamy7197

    @rameshpalanichamy7197

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen . Hi . Thank you for your reply. Yes it was happened one year ago. Now I can able to write in my left hand example 23 lines in A4 sheet 18 minutes. You know everything what are the difficulties the left hand person before anyone had a right hand person. But now I am facing pen problem. Which pen have I to select .? If you any image based pen picture please post me. It my request. Thanks

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rameshpalanichamy7197 There are really a lot of pens to choose from. I enjoy for casual writing gel pens. But I almost always write with a fountain pen. The Pilot Metropolitan is a great introductory pen. Good luck!

  • @rameshpalanichamy7197

    @rameshpalanichamy7197

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your reply.

  • @juliankerrell7281
    @juliankerrell72813 жыл бұрын

    I turn the paper 90^ to my body.

  • @zurdaestudiando1505
    @zurdaestudiando1505 Жыл бұрын

    Wait... Tilting the paper has a name?????? I only do it bc it let's me avoid smudges and I don't have to put my hand in a VERY awkward and kinda painful position

  • @joforrest1
    @joforrest12 жыл бұрын

    As a natural left handed person, the first thing I noticed was you stant in a direction that is more natural to right handed people... I would never force myself to slant in that direction as it is unnatural and awkward .. I was taught to write at junior school so I have never had an issue with dragging my palm across the page causing the ink to smudge.. I hold the pen in the same way a R Handed person would..

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you mean slant my writing or slant my paper?

  • @imchangingaccountnoreason1103
    @imchangingaccountnoreason11034 жыл бұрын

    floating my hand while writing makes my arm si tired

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    4 жыл бұрын

    This technique allows for the pinky and ring finger to slide on the page and for the muscular portion of forearm near elbow to rest on table. Those two points of support are often enough for long writing durations without fatigue.

  • @hydramusicofficial7120
    @hydramusicofficial71202 ай бұрын

    Which pen is it ???

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    2 ай бұрын

    Pilot falcon ef

  • @patwagner9308
    @patwagner93083 жыл бұрын

    " He writes very well for a lefthander." ?! Please explain that comment. Some lefties have beautiful handwriting & some righties have awful handwriting...& vice versa on both.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha you're completely correct. I am referring to the technique he is using. I personally know some left handers with beautiful penmanship, but they use finger movement in their writing not arm movement. Marbus in the video is demonstrating arm movement and is the only person I have ever seen any left hander do it as nicely as he does.

  • @patwagner9308

    @patwagner9308

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen oh! 😄✍ thank you for clarifying. My husband is a lefty..his mom was & 2 of his 3 siblings are. I am...but encouraged to be a righty. And a good friend is a lefty.

  • @kjvonly2451
    @kjvonly24515 жыл бұрын

    I’m a leftie. I write like him. He’s using his wrist to balance his writing. He’s not using his arm and gliding over like you are.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! Yes i'm still learning whole arm movement with the left hand

  • @hollyjollylollymolly3160
    @hollyjollylollymolly31606 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I have better advice now. Do you know that angle between the paper and the pen ? while you point your pen to the right side like you do. You can apply some force to that angle to make it smaller while you write, it works as support. When you write bellow the line and pointing your pen to your right side, you apply force UNDER the line you're writing in to diminish the angle and gain control of the support.

  • @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    @hollyjollylollymolly3160

    6 жыл бұрын

    The right side of paper .

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh this interesting to consider. Haven't thought much of that angle

  • @Karen-u5z
    @Karen-u5z12 күн бұрын

    15:47

  • @hindhujar2126
    @hindhujar21263 жыл бұрын

    Im a ambidextrous being ❤️

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @OJ3462
    @OJ34623 жыл бұрын

    I write upward but my head is slanted .

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @welsh2170
    @welsh21704 жыл бұрын

    Where my Lefties at?

  • @picapow6959
    @picapow69595 жыл бұрын

    My Thatcher made me Sit on my Left hand in school.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry to hear that! It's never too late to get the left hand going again :)

  • @picapow6959

    @picapow6959

    5 жыл бұрын

    dieyen DualPen thank you man, currently I'm working on the movements of my left hand; wish me luck.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good luck! I hope you find my videos helpful on your journey. Time and patience will be your best friends :)

  • @user-px1ph4ew1e
    @user-px1ph4ew1e2 жыл бұрын

    Surprisingly I was never forced to write with my right hand. I was in school in Birmingham, Alabama in the late 1930’s. I was taught the Palmer method.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    That's great to hear. Did they offer any specific directions for the left hand?

  • @user-px1ph4ew1e

    @user-px1ph4ew1e

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen No I had already worked out how to position my paper and the teacher would correct my hand placement.

  • @leightaft7763
    @leightaft7763 Жыл бұрын

    The page is like 2 feet away from you. Is that practical? For writing in the real world I mean.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    Жыл бұрын

    Hunching over your paper is worse for your back that's for sure. You arms should be supported when writing.

  • @lordprimogem4105
    @lordprimogem41055 жыл бұрын

    If you are a BTS fan u know who I'm thinking about looking at the beatles poster

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Can't say I do know 😅 sorry

  • @lordprimogem4105

    @lordprimogem4105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen I was talking about a guy named V lol

  • @lordprimogem4105

    @lordprimogem4105

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DieyenDualPen nice video btw

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lordprimogem4105 oh I'm not sure what you're referring to, a guy named V? Thanks for watching :)

  • @mohsinnazir4064

    @mohsinnazir4064

    5 жыл бұрын

    V is my favourite singer from BTS

  • @KenDelloSandro7565
    @KenDelloSandro75653 жыл бұрын

    I'm a southpaw and my best penmanship is total trash compared to your left hand penmanship...dead jealous....

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    no need to be jealous, you can get there too.

  • @OJ3462
    @OJ34623 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs down cause I have to raise the volume on my phone ALL the way up.

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback

  • @Crazygaming-gk5dn
    @Crazygaming-gk5dn2 жыл бұрын

    Noooooooo ewwww I will never trie it

  • @DieyenDualPen

    @DieyenDualPen

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha give it a shot!