Master of Wine Discusses GERMAN RIESLING

In this video, Mosel Riesling is discussed, along with how to evaluate a wine even before its opened, along with Rieslings right for your cellar. Included is a tasting of an old JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese. The vineyard is one of the world's classic wine sites. Hugging the Mosel River, the vineyard is on steep blue/gray slate soil that are high in potassium. I've heard from multiple sources there that the potassium level leads to a pronounced minerality in the wines. Maybe, I've not seen the science that supports that conclusion. That said, the wines have a very strong sense of place. Also, there is discussion on how to read a German wine label to know the quality and style of the wine. If you've not subscribed, please consider doing so.
Suggested wines to cellar away. JJ Prum is sold in many markets around the world.
2021 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese $60
2021 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese $55
2021 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Kabinett $48
2021 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel $160
2021 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Auslese $55
2021 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Kabinett $44
2021 JJ Prum Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Spatlese $48
2021 JJ Prum Bernkastler Badstube Riesling Kabinett $38
2021 JJ Prum Zeltinger Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese $50
2020 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese $50
2020 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Kabinett $45
2019 Markus Molitor Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese Gold Capsule $30
2020 Max Ferdinand Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Trocken $40
2020 Willi Schaefer Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Kabinett $37
#masterofwine #bobpaulinski #riesling #mosel #winetasting #winelife #germany

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  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine
    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine Жыл бұрын

    If you enjoyed this video, you may also like this one on Pinot Gris. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4uC2K19l7C4qMY.html

  • @thomasbahr2806
    @thomasbahr2806 Жыл бұрын

    Great educative video about German Riesling. JJ Prüm is a great producer, which stands for exceptional quality. As a German I am lucky to drink all the Riesling which gets never exported to other countries. For Example Jakob Schneider offers exceptional value in Riesling (Niederhäuser Hermannshöhle trocken can be bought here in Germany for below 20 € in subscription), from the Mosel I really loved the 2021 Vintage because it is a cooler year which still reached perfect ripeness in the good estates. My favorite from 2021 is Stefan Müller Niedermenniger Sonnenberg Riesling Spätlese Alte Reben, which offers exceptional value at below 15 € but I rated it 95 points. I am somehow split about the popularity of Riesling: Do I believe that it deserves more attention and appresiation - yes definitely. But that would lead to much higher prices for exceptional quality. Where can you by world class wines with 95+ points for way less than 50 € in other great crues? So I love that we Germans can enjoy our Riesling top qualities at reasonable prices even for aged bottles in the secondary market.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Thomas, thanks for the good word. Wow, a treasure trove! The small group of people dialed in reap the benefit of Riesling not being globally popular. I’ve visited Germany a few times, always look forward loading up on the top Rieslings. Really liking trocken style.

  • @user-mb1hg4qu9f
    @user-mb1hg4qu9f6 ай бұрын

    Years ago I was "adopted" by an informal wine tasting club, and they started me on German Riesling. It stuck; I've sampled many varietals and producers since, but I always come back to German Riesling. Or, perhaps, Finger Lakes Riesling from a good producer.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    6 ай бұрын

    Good story. Can’t go wrong with good Riesling!

  • @ronjohnson6406
    @ronjohnson6406 Жыл бұрын

    Bob, For me it was German cuisine that brought me to Riesling. It just naturally pairs with things like schnitzel. At first, and still, it is Chateau Ste Michael. For an engineered wine, they aren’t bad, and the price, plus I am plating pork schnitzel most of the time... But for the special dinners, the Germans come out. My favorite has been the Dönnhoff Hermannshöhle GG. I intend to cellar them for years, but they only make it a couple of years. I really can only pull off a bottle or two of this wine. As I could buy a case of Chateau Ste Michael for one of those GG’s. But once you taste them… Yes, there is an enormous difference. I will likely pick up a JJ Prüm to try, they have been showing on my radar for good Riesling, and with your recommendation, now it’s worth getting one, and maybe more. What I find amazing is the length Riesling can age. I mean it’s a white wine, Kabinett and Spatlese are low sugar. Normally, that is a big flag to drink young. Oh, I would love to see a video going into detail about German wine labels. Because, even though I have spent some time trying to figure them out enough to pick out some good ones here and there. I would love to watch a 201 version. Going into what if, any effect on quality VDP has and the Grosses Gewächs complication. Which I simply equate to Grand Cru, but it’s German so I am sure there is more to it. So a toast to you. You have continued to expand my wine knowledge. Tonight, is a 2020 Villa Stellaria Primitivo. Trying out Zinfandels older brother, who is less extroverted.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Ron, glad you liked the video. When a solid case of a wine can be had for the price of a single bottle of something outstanding, sometimes volume wins out. I get it. A 202 German label video could be good. Thanks for the suggestion. As for Zin, it’s one of my faves from CA. Spent a good part of yesterday with a visitor from Australia, drank some incredible Coonawarra Shiraz. Cheers!

  • @dannesism
    @dannesism Жыл бұрын

    Been a lover of riesling for many years now and I've always imagined that some day more people will discover riesling and prices will rise. Based on that I've always bought larger amounts of Prüm (including some GK auslese) and a couple of cases of Willi Schaefer (my absolute favorite riesling producer) every year. Even if they haven't risen noticeably in price I'm still happy I've bought lots and lots of these since they drink so easily, especially pulled directly from the fridge to be enjoyed on a warm evening. Plus something that shouldn't be forgotten is that riesling really is one of the best "food-wines" there is!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    We’re aligned. I have a few cases of mixed Mosel gems. With JJ Prum, it’s sometimes difficult to find the GK. Willi Schaefer is consistently excellent. It’s remarkable how little the prices have risen. I guess that’s good for you and me! 😂

  • @dannesism

    @dannesism

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobpaulinskimasterofwine plus even with both JJ's and Willis kabinetts it's easy to just forget about them for 5-10 years and you won't ever be disappointed. Bottles of liquid gold in my book and even if I do appreciate the lower price levels when it comes to riesling I also do think it'd be fair for the producers to get more for their bottles based on the outstanding quality of the wines produced

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dannesism Definitely, the right kabinetts have tremendous longevity. Five to ten years, no problem. The acidity forms the backbone that can’t be matched. I travel to Malaysia routinely, it’s the only Asian country that embraces Riesling. Found an excellent range there. Perfect with the cuisine.

  • @breethewithme
    @breethewithme Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Been putting down some JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett for the last few years and cant wait to try them with some age on them.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! The Kabinetts have amazing longevity. I’m also surprised on how well they maintain a youthful appearance. Cheers!

  • @jimcricket8334
    @jimcricket8334 Жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for a Riesling vid!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    The world should be drinking more Riesling!

  • @williamgechtman9287
    @williamgechtman9287 Жыл бұрын

    My 1st wine was at my grandparents' dinner table when I was 12 or 13. Zeller Schwartze Katz. Mediocre riesling, but a good year, 1971. I later had the pleasure of drinking a 1971 JJ Prüm W S Auslese from magnum in the early 1990s. I now own what is probably way too much good QmP riesling, including a good bit of JJ Prüm Spätlesen and Auslesen, going back to 1996. Folks are amazed by how well it ages, how it pairs with various types of food, and in some cases, for several who had told me they "don't like wine," how much they liked it. Doing my best to spread the riesling gospel!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi William, ZSK with the black cat on the label, I remember it well! JJ Prum ages incredibly well. It’s one of the few wines that I don’t worry about in terms of cellaring it too long. I’ve had many Kabinetts that have aged well. I’ll do my part spreading the gospel as well!

  • @kbrdann1
    @kbrdann17 ай бұрын

    I live in the Finger Lakes in NY. There are some great Riesling

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    7 ай бұрын

    Indeed there are, I’ve had many.

  • @lauracanna2201
    @lauracanna2201 Жыл бұрын

    Wow! What a great, educational, informative video! Thank you so much Bob! 💖

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see you enjoyed it!

  • @mcwine18
    @mcwine18 Жыл бұрын

    Another awesome video on one of my favorite varietals that I for some reason rarely drink! 😅 I knew you were also a lowkey gangster 💪🏻😎 sick tat!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha! Laughed out loud. Love Riesling. Yep, low key gangster. 😂

  • @juanmanuelmunozhernandez7032
    @juanmanuelmunozhernandez7032 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video, lively and focused like a Riesling!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha! Objective achieved! 👍

  • @Dallas_Matt
    @Dallas_Matt Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see you do an Auslese as well. Great video. Loved my time living in Germany, and the Bad Durkheim Winefest too!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the good word. I’ll add Auslese to the long queue of topics. I think it could be good one, especially if it’s a version that shows a good amount of Botrytis.

  • @matthewbykowski2353
    @matthewbykowski2353 Жыл бұрын

    Lots of great info there. Very interesting and well presented, thanks!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Matthew, thank you. Truth be told, this was a tough video to make. Sometimes it comes together easy, sometimes not so much. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @matthewbykowski2353

    @matthewbykowski2353

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobpaulinskimasterofwine Thanks for the effort, it was great.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matthewbykowski2353 I’m glad to see the positive response. 👍

  • @jamescipriano204
    @jamescipriano204 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! When it comes to white wines, Riesling is an all time favorite. JJ Prum is definitely a go to for quality. Keep the videos coming! I enjoy watching and learning from your videos. Salute

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks James, much appreciated. JJ rules!

  • @memomur3966
    @memomur3966 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bob; really enjoyed the video! Had no idea that Riesling could age that well, and in this industrial and global world, really like the wines that embody the character of their place! I’ll keep tasting new Rieslings on my travels to Germany, wished it was easier to find them in other markets! cheers

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m very glad to read your note. Yes, the right ones have plenty of mileage in them. While in Germany, look for the trocken style Rieslings. For something different, try Pinot Noir from Baden.

  • @carlcadregari7768
    @carlcadregari7768 Жыл бұрын

    Great information. A lot of local Riesling is made/drank by me (finger lakes) which allows the shops and restaurants to add German and French and other Riesling to the shelves and menus. Not to unusual to see Seneca lake next to Mosel, with Alsace followed by Columbia Valley and Clare Valley and more even in small shops. And yes my first Riesling was a Blue Nun….. I’ve had a number of German ones, including Prum. Had a 92 sparkling Riesling from Peter Lauer just a little while back….just a beautiful grape. Really enjoy your videos.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Carl. I’ve had many good Finger Lakes Rieslings. I lived in northern MI for years, Riesling a plenty there as well. I’m with a group of Aussies, we were just talking about Clare Riesling. Very under appreciated wines outside of Australia. Not sure if Blue Nun ever met a single Riesling grape. 😂😂 For me, it was Blue Nun and Black Tower.

  • @jayceperlmutter4317
    @jayceperlmutter4317 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the discussion on German Rieslings - there is a lot of detail to unpack with those wines. Although I'm in CA I don't really see very many options in the local stores and have to go to specialty wine stores and even there you don't really have too many options, so one can't really get enough personal exposure to determine what it is that you prefer in this very large category of wine regions and varieties of alcohol content/sweetness levels.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Jayce, thank you for posting a comment. I’m in CA as well, you’re correct they are not the easiest wines to find. Most of mine were bought long ago. Hopefully you get a chance to experience the range Germany has offer as the top estates are sensational.

  • @briand2614
    @briand2614 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks again for the informative videos, what a treat that 1998 must have been. My first introduction to Riesling was as a teenager on a group ski trip in Vermont in 1981. I was newly of drinking age and thought I would be cool and buy a bottle of Blue Nun to drink at the lodge with dinner. It was popular then and I have only a vague recollection of the wine, but it was not great. It would be another 20 years or so before I was introduced to a German Riesling of quality and it was a revelation. I do think that the lack of popularity with any wine is the complexity associated with understanding it. German Riesling is a complex space to navigate, and then some. I also don't think a lot of more advanced wine drinkers have much tolerance for residual sugar, unless it is specifically a desert wine. The higher quality German wines navigate the residual sugar beautifully, but that isn't always what the general public, especially in America are going to be exposed to. It's likely to be a semi-sweet wine of lower quality, and there can be nothing worse than an inexpensive slightly sweet wine. It's interesting, or maybe telling that you mention Trocken or dryer styles of Riesling are trendy just now in Germany. It's what I drink predominantly, but not generally from Germany since it is not inexpensive. Usually I'm drinking it from Australia, or the Finger Lakes for example. I'm also curious as to whether warmer vintages and more physiologically riper grapes has allowed German winemakers to dabble in dryer higher alcohol and fuller bodied wines.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Brian, thanks for posting a comment. My early experience was with Blue Nun as well, there was also Black Tower back then as well. I agree with your assessment about sugar in wine. It puts people off for the most part, although many supposed dry wines actually have a good amount of residual sugar. Your comment about warmer vintages is valid, not only for higher alcohol white wines, but also for the production on reds as well.

  • @mikaelplaysguitar
    @mikaelplaysguitar Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I've only had J.J. Prüm once, it was the 2019 Wehlener Sonnenuhr Kabinett and it was great. Living in Germany the availability is good, but it is also easy to find alternatives that are easier on the wallet. Right now I'm sipping Weingut Heinrich Mayer Zeller Petersborn-Kapertchen Spätlese *** 2015, similar style as Prüm but I paid 8€ for it. That being said, there is added value in drinking the iconic wines and I'd love to try a Prüm with more age.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment. JJ Prum ages extremely well. I’ve had 20+ year Kabinetts that were in great shape. Later harvests even much more mileage. Looks like you’re drinking well! Cheers!

  • @vinceslapchopper
    @vinceslapchopper Жыл бұрын

    I have had recently an entry level Donhoff Trocken Riesling from the Nahe region, I was very impressed with the quality for the price. There was a good balance of sweetness, acidity, minerality and body, I was surprised I liked it so much. I am usually more drawn to the drier style Rieslings with more body and higher alcohol level of Alsatian wines but I will definitely give more attention towards the Germans, they have definitely won me over.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Trocken style are very under appreciated outside of Germany. The acidity is the key, it holds the wine together, keeps it fresh on the palate. Glad you discovered them. And thanks for posting a comment.

  • @CurdBros
    @CurdBros5 ай бұрын

    JJ Prum is my favorite wine in the world. It’s one of my for sure yearly buys. I love seeing content about JJ. My favorite so far is the 2001 WS Auslese and gold cap so far. I have really liked 2001, 2005, and 2007. I have a about 6 bottles of the 01, 05, and 07 auslese and spatlese in the cellar. I know I’m in the minority but Prum is the top producer in my cellar. Great notes and Thanks for sharing!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    5 ай бұрын

    We’re aligned. JJ Prum is one of the world’s great wine estates!

  • @baggrabb
    @baggrabb Жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. Some great advice in the comments, too. I love riesling, and the sweeter ones are fine with me. I've had several fails when I serve them to some of me less-riesling-loving friends. You hit it on the nose, in the US we have equated "sweet" with "cheap". I find food pairing with the sweet ones challenging. A lot of generic advice on those pairings is for really spicy food with rich sauces, like Indian or Thai. I get it, the sweeter rieslings stand up to those kind of dishes. But the hyper-flavorful sauces kind of lay waste to some of the more subtle flavors in those rieslings. Ron Johnson suggested schnitzel, when I read that, it was so obvious, but I'd never gone there before. Thanks, Ron! Deep frying at home doesn't happen much for me, though. Anyway, any suggestions on that would be appreciated, plus some strategies to get my buddies to open up to the idea of a high quality, sweet wine. Cheers

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Bruce, Riesling seems to be one of the most polarizing grape varieties. Drier styles can be found without much effort, Germany (trocken), Washington, New Zealand, Australia (Clare/Eden). Much more versatile than many Chardonnay, less herbaceous than most SB, certainly more character than Pinot Grigio, etc. I’m buying Mosel Riesling to cellar, Spatlese and Auslese without a doubt, but the right Kabinett can also have good longevity. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  • @baggrabb

    @baggrabb

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobpaulinskimasterofwine btw Costco was out of Kirkland gigondas up here😕

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@baggrabb My Costco had about a dozen cases just a few days ago. It seems to be selling well.

  • @garrettreynolds9145
    @garrettreynolds9145 Жыл бұрын

    Only the best🎉

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Top end Riesling is a treat!

  • @Dauvissat
    @Dauvissat Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. One thing I've noticed with some JJP 2018 vintages I opened in the past year (purchased upon release from a reliable and famous wine shop) whether Wehlener or Graacher Himmelreich for kabinett and spatelese, is that the cork (must be natural and not DIAM type enclosure) gets wet easily with a half way fill if the wine is stored on its side in a cellar for a year or two, this is worrisome for long term aging. I've experienced this also with a 2014 I purchased a couple years ago, but luckily there was enough reductive character up front to buffer any possible issues (after that blows away with air the wine manages well). The cork quality makes me worry about 2020 and 2021 vintages (although won't stop me from buying a few bottles). Please do a video focusing on Grosses Gewachs Rieslings in the future.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Ken, thank you for the comment. Interesting call out on the cork for JJ. Based on the current technology with Diam, one would think it’s a viable option. I need some due diligence on the current releases, curious if anyone in my circle has experienced the same issue, as I’ve not opened any recent releases in my cellar.

  • @CurdBros

    @CurdBros

    5 ай бұрын

    I have a considerable amount of JJ in my cellar and I have had leakage issues in the past. It’s not a larger percentage of the bottles, but the corks do seem a bit more sensitive than some others. It would be nice if they moved to DIAM but they are heavy on tradition so I doubt that will happen any time soon.

  • @larrydalton2205
    @larrydalton22056 ай бұрын

    Sounds wonderful. I guess I need to open my one bottle of this 1998 in auslese. I wish I had still still had the spätlese from 98 as spätlese and kabinett are my absolute favorites ripeness levels. I do love their auslesen, though. Need to open another 2001 and 2002 soon. Fritz Häagen-Dazs is outstanding also as well as so many other producers.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    6 ай бұрын

    Your ‘98 is holding up fine. I have a ‘99 Kabinett, Spatlese and Auslese. All is great condition.

  • @larrydalton2205

    @larrydalton2205

    6 ай бұрын

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine7234 Good to hear and as I expected. In 2015 I had the pleasure of being in a small tasting group at the Prüm estate and discussed their wines and vintages with Dr. Katarina Prüm. Fantastic experience.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    6 ай бұрын

    @@larrydalton2205 I’m sure it was a noteworthy visit.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    6 ай бұрын

    @@larrydalton2205 Outstanding. We all tend to focus solely on the wine, but the experience at the “the place” is almost as important. It forms the emotive link.

  • @ayya8817
    @ayya8817 Жыл бұрын

    interesting that the populairty of the us is not that big. here we import so much riesling that producers even print labels in Norwegian. when i first began getting into german wines i looked for Mosel and Rheingau and so on. but recently i have fallen in love with the riesling from Nahe. JJ Prum excellent producer, i also enjoy Markus Molitor. these don't really do too much in Nahe, so i tend to go for Dönnhoff and even better Schäfer-Fröhlich. getting harder and harder to find aged Riesling, even thought riesling ages super well. the general market enjoy riesling young and fresh. the sweet Riesling are getting less and less popular here, i think its sad. for me auslese gets too sweet, but have had some amazing kabinett and spatlese. good video!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the good word. Perhaps Norways proximity to Germany has something to do with it. As for Ausleses, I’m a fan every now and then. Prum is one of my all time faves, never disappoints.

  • @angthanhat5109
    @angthanhat5109 Жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video about learning to become a wine expert?

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a video planned to show how I made my way through the Master of Wine program. Included will be some discussion on other wine programs as well. All of which will contribute to becoming a wine expert. Thank you for posing your question.

  • @ducanhnguyen2758
    @ducanhnguyen275810 ай бұрын

    very nice video. thank you Sir. Just a thought : if you get a media man, I think you can get a broader audience!

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    10 ай бұрын

    I’m glad you enjoyed the video. As for your advice, I’ll take that under consideration. My channel hasn’t been around too long, it showing steady growth. I’m trying to build a stronger social media network to promote the videos. I may bring in a media expert, but likely not until 2024. Cheers!

  • @robp.7769
    @robp.77699 ай бұрын

    Would one of the younger offerings in the $50 be worth drinking now or is this a wine that needs age?

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    9 ай бұрын

    If you’re talking specifically about JJ Prum, I think aging it makes all the difference.

  • @dunkirk3841
    @dunkirk3841 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Bob, Wanted to touch on this a little bit, I think you mentioned that you cut a lot of your wine collection down to a couple hundred of bottles in another video. I also spot the wine fridge behind you in most videos. Do you think a wine fridge is a suitable replacement for a cellar for ageing wine long term? E.g. 20 years on Auslese Rieslings and above, Bordeaux (CC) , N Rhones (H, CR) I live somewhere near KL which you previously visited, so the conditions for a cellar are non existent or either very expensive. Day temps are high, and getting enough humidity and low temperatures will be costly. (I prefer to not keep wine off site) Do you think we need a expensive e.g. Eurocave, Miele wine fridge for ageing? Will the conditions be the same as a natural cellar?

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    For the last ten years or so, I’ve only used upfront wine fridges. They work great, been 100% trouble free. I keep the temp at 12C, when the unit is full it’s very efficient. I live in NorCal, it’s hot about six months per year, but not often KL hot. Years ago, I had an underground cellar, I see no difference between the cellar or wine fridge. My partner lives in KL, she also uses an upright wine fridge, no issues at all. Yes. I think it’s a suitable replacement for an underground cellar. I hope that helps.

  • @dunkirk3841

    @dunkirk3841

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobpaulinskimasterofwine Thanks for the swift and detailed reply. I have one more question, regarding shipping of bottles, often times in KL the temperatures goes >30 C, will this cause any issue for wines if they are left at this temperature for a few days in terms of ageing? I've seen people saying that even a 20+C temperature MAY cause issues with long term ageing 15-20 years +. However there is not much we can do since all year round the climate is super warm. My concern is that sometimes my shipped wines from new vintages that I wish to age for 20-30 years are placed in a lorry in the morning, without temp controlled, and sometimes only reach me at night. How concerning will this be? What if I did a self pickup that maybe will be in 30+ C for half a day? (Of course not under direct sunlight) Do you have any experiences with this?

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dunkirk3841 This is a problem. Heat can cause a myriad of issues. The wine can cook, it can cause the bottles to leak as the liquid expands when subjected to heat. When the temp is just moderately elevated for an extended time, it will quicken the aging process of the wine. My experience is KL has been largely positive. I've been to a large distributor warehouse (AsiaEuro), it's temp controlled. The delivery trucks are also temp controlled. If wines are being shipping directly to you in a non-controlled environment, this is the weak link. At a minimum, the wines should be packed in a styrofoam container. A self pickup would be better. Hopefully you can park in a shaded place, as a car parked in direct sunlight in KL would be an oven.

  • @dunkirk3841

    @dunkirk3841

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobpaulinskimasterofwine Thank you for the reply once again. For the past couple of years, I've amassed a couple hundred of bottles for collections, mostly GC Bdx, and both Northern Rhone and Burgundy whites. What I usually do is to collect from the shop, which then I'll take a couple of hours to reach home and place it in the wine fridge. The wines do not have protruding corks, usually they are in OWC and cardboard boxes, but not left in direct sunlight, usually I'll take the train (more convienient than a car), so the wines are exposed to ambient temperatures of 80-90F for a couple of hours with some mixture of air conditioning. What do you think the conditions of the wines are? Will they be affected in say 20 years? I am not that experienced yet but they do not show any stewed fruit characteristics. I'm just worried that 20 years down the road, when I start enjoying these wines, the condition would be not so good. So I am wondering if I should be collecting the wines in a different methods, maybe freeze a few water bottles.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dunkirk3841 Thank you for providing more detail. Since the wines are being transported in cardboard boxes and it’s only a couple of hours of ambient temp exposure, you should not have any issue. Cardboard is a good insulator. Next time, note the condition of the bottles when you get home, I doubt they will feel warm. If that’s the case, put your mind at ease, the wines will be ok. I’m curious about where you’re wine shopping in KL. The best place that I’ve found is Lavowine. Very impressive range of Bordeaux, along with excellent storage conditions.

  • @czrs85
    @czrs85 Жыл бұрын

    Are they novice to wine I can honestly say I've been drinking Riesling and Gewürztraminer since 2005.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s fantastic. If you’re a Riesling and Gewurz fan, Pinot Blanc from Alsace should also be a good fit.

  • @czrs85

    @czrs85

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobpaulinskimasterofwine thank you.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    @@czrs85 Let me know if you give it a try. Curious to hear your opinion.

  • @GeezRvonFart
    @GeezRvonFart Жыл бұрын

    opened a few bottles of 10 yo riesling that tasted and smelled really bad, even tho the stood in a dark cool cellar. Strange thing is the first bottle tasted ok, but the other five tasted bad

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    This heavily depends on which Riesling is being cellared. Of the storage conditions were good, that’s certainly a plus. Hopefully the wine was stored well prior to you purchasing it. The right Riesling, stored well can be amazing. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience

  • @typerightseesight
    @typerightseesight Жыл бұрын

    makes a lower proof wine sound stronger. lol.

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahaha

  • @danielokeefe2072
    @danielokeefe20725 ай бұрын

    Lovely wine but 15 years is not 2 decades

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    5 ай бұрын

    The wine was 25 years old, from 1998.

  • @danielokeefe2072

    @danielokeefe2072

    5 ай бұрын

    @@bobpaulinskimasterofwine many apologies. I adore aged Riesling

  • @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    @bobpaulinskimasterofwine

    5 ай бұрын

    @@danielokeefe2072 No worries. We’re aligned, aged Riesling can be amazing. JJ Prum, a timeless classic. Cheers!