Personnaly, I'd prefer you take the time to digest the info, rather than being first to publish a readout. Maybe because I had read it already and was looking for you thoughts. Can't wait for you next video on this :)

Crystal reliability is how's the crystal breaking works, basically when you use the striper for 1 cycle, the crystal will have a chance to be damaged and that damage will make it so that it will eventually break. Similar to how energy turret ammo works. More unreliable means higher chance of it being damage. Also the file that you try to open is an excel file, and it contains all the current change they intend to make and will be in sisi.

Would have been nice if there was a “hold” module that specialized your T1 for a specific resource instead of making it depend on the ship. Thanks for the overview.. o7

I think i understand the waste. if i understand it correctly, heres an example. Start with 10 units in the object being mined, and each cycle harvests 1 unit. no waste means that there will be 9 units left in the object, and you have harvested 1 unit if the waste does happen, there will be 8 units left in the object, but you will still harvest the 1 unit. less waste just means better for AFK, high waste is better for active miners.

The endurance has been made into a combat ship for destroying ore fields with the wasteful crystal. It has no more laser bonus but a 100% combat drone bonus. It now mines at 1/4 the speed of a prospect with the same laser and crystal. It has a negative to drone mining yeild to disinsentivise using ore drones. Crazy but fun change, watch out for endurances no joke

The reason gallente have all the industry ships is they are the shippers of new eden(lore reason from launch, Interbus), and after the rebalance like 8 years ago they had the most ship models to iteron version 1-5 use and there was not reason to fly another t1 other than itty 5 except train time, and(budget reason) other races were not added.

No ships get bonus to drone mining now, that sucks. The way I read the waste was that for a cycle you get your full yield but then you waste some of the rock in the process. That way with poor skills the rock doesn't last as long as it should for the m3 it contains

The file you were trying to open is an Excel file. So Microsoft Excel or most spreadsheet programs should be able to open it.

So why would you risk such expensive ships after such a nerf? Just make them a loot box for little return?

After reading it a few times, Compressing normal ore is good for on grid mining since you can drop the hauler for another miner but with ice since I reprocess it to sell to market its still better to have a hauler instead of a miner since compressing it then refining is loosing ice twice. second with heavy water being 80 isk per unit so 35k per 5 mins with prices as is doable loss.

@WompAlliance

2 жыл бұрын

Those prices are about to go up

@Taz6688

2 жыл бұрын

What you going to do when a griefer joins your mining op, and uses C grade mining laser upgrades, pops all your mining with the high waste rate, why would anyone make a crystal that wastes so much of what you mine if it wasn't to grief with.

The mining crystal icons are arriving just in time for Christmas. I'd love a bunch of those all over the tree. You really have to hand it to the industry peeps. If they didn't do their sterling job what would we all blow up?

Mining Agent missions.... They didn't increased the ore there, and the "waste first" mechanics is destroying the rocks before you get anything in your ore hold. So even if they would double the size of the rocks in those missions, you will likely fail to gatter enough ore to complete the missions, because there is no way you can, without bot, precisely stop your cycle to get half of the double sized rock. "Waste first" mechanic is very bad and should not be implemented. If "wasting" adds to realism, "waste first" does not.

Like that they made the exumers more tanky. And that they added a industial core to the orca so you can compress with it

so instead of 3 rocks in a null belt we will have 6 hoooray

Guess I'll sell the Orca and switch back to a Retriever or o Porpoise...

OMFG! They nerfed the Skiff by removing a mid slot (less tanking). AND nerfed the Procurer by removing 2 (YES F****** TWO) mid slot to the Procurer...Good for the additional low slot, but this is a HUGE slap in the face for the Procurer. They obviously did not mentionned this in their dev blog. Now I just want anything I've invested in mining be refunded (SP and skill book for Barge and Exhumer), not just the reprocessing stuff. I don't know if they failed to implement the refund on Singularity (they gave 2x1M SP skill injectors in the redeem window instead I believe)

@jamesbrown5262

2 жыл бұрын

should have bought 2 for 1 extractors

@EskaronVokonen

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesbrown5262 And reward CCP with my money for that? No thanks.

So, it looks like, with module with a 100% chance of waste, if an asteroid has 10 blue ice left, each cycle would take 2 ice from the asteroid, you would get 1, and 1 would be wasted. After 1 cycle, there is 8 ice remaining.

@rafaelalandrade

2 жыл бұрын

Not how it works. Each cycle, if you have 100% waste and rate 1, you mine one unit for yourself, the rock loses 2 units (one that you mined, one from waste). So, let's say an ice rock starts with 100 units, you mine with a skiff with two strips. After the first cycle, you get two units of ice, the rock loses 4 units (two that you mined, two from your waste rate). The only way to keep the rocks free from waste is using faction modules, which means ORE strips are gonna skyrocket in price.

@Vyrewolf

2 жыл бұрын

@@rafaelalandrade pretty sure that is exactly what I said. I was referring to a single cycle, of a single ice harvester, with the 100%. 1 cycle would take 2 from the asteroid, you would get one, one would be wasted. You just said a different example, running 2 modules rather than 1.

@rafaelalandrade

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vyrewolf I guess I got confused by your wording. Yes, in the end we're saying the same thing. Sorry about that.

Damn just went on the test server, mackinew is roughly 20% better compared to the current hulk and the hulk mines 60% more than the current hulk. At least for asteroid and moon. Ice the hulk becomes stupid fast which is a little annoying.... It didn't need speed, it needed volume

One of those most informative Eve channels

@eventon9372

2 жыл бұрын

I felt so lost in most of this but thanks! I did get the spread sheet so I'll upload another video with that info soon.

a while ago I invested my newbro hard earned ISK in a Procurer...guess which barge gets downgraded (mid slot wise)... lol :)

@EskaronVokonen

2 жыл бұрын

Feel the same. A low slot for yield, in compensation...

@EskaronVokonen

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I see an additionnal low slot... but then... I now understand what you said about the mid slot, they removed TWO! When I answered initially I had not seen the change on Singularity and I simply thought you meant they didn't add anything to the Procurer, compared to the other.

@UniteAndWinOiOi

2 жыл бұрын

how am I supposed to bait wormholers in my bait procurer now?

I guess this is the end of my gas huffing career. If you got that spreadsheet working you will know what I mean.

@EaglefireflyGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Reactions should still be worth it, try and get in a corp that can convert your gas.

I’m really not looking forward to them nerfing the procurers tank. But the expedition frig changes are awesome.

Being able to make good coin in a venture huffing seems to be over.. Also not happy about compression being linked to a module.. that cuts into tank on ships that are routinely ganked and already easy to kill. Doing on belt or contract buybacks is going to be hell to figure out with there no longer being lossless compression. Drones being wasteful is only going to exacerbate orcas vacuuming up belts. No buffs to exhumer yield. I keep hearing about nerfs to the proc I like the simplification of skills and crystals No moon ore compression if you don’t have a rorq sounds stupid I wish they would change ore hold to a configurable module system like on T3 cruisers likewise for compression with it being built in after configuration.

I dont like frigates losing gas and ore mining bonuses. I dont think waste or compression needed to be messed with. I'm against exclusive commodity holds. I am for the the tank increases and against the tank nerfs. I dont care if more gas in the game if I mine it at 50%. Already sold 3 orcas and extracted command ship skills from main miner

Jita Is burning over this announcement.

Looks good, at Skill 1 they will be crappier than now, but at Skill V they will be better.

Hulks got hit hard sadly and not in a good way. They lose a lot of their survivability :(

I don't think Office 2010 can open xlsx spreadsheets.

RIP Gankers 🙏

@EskaronVokonen

2 жыл бұрын

They'll now target the previous tank (Procurer), lol

Glad CCP either walked back some of these nerfs or continued to implement positive changes for mining ships (especially nearly doubling the ehp of all exhumers & barges). Also glad I skipped this update entirely, as I wasn't playing EvE at the time.

These changes sound awesome, like an ever changing universe, more natural and realistic, not like the static mess it used to be.

Not a fan of the resistance and HP changes, as it doesent matter if you are hitting an old dog without teeth and claws or a slightly bigger olddog that still doesen't possess any teeth or claws. Sure its nice to have but does not touch the problem of mining ships being nothing but an expensive HP pinata. And as CCP obviously is not willing to grant the old dog his 3rds the construction prices have to plummet significantly to match the cost of their main predator. Edit: at least for now mining ships have lost significant hp/resis than gained...

I wish ccp would listen to players an give the rorqs capital strip miners

I smell Alpha punishment in this adjustments...

I recommend you read and understand the material before making a video on it rather than trying to read and learn while wasting our time.

As Chinese gamers, we are very familiar with this, this is how Tencent and netease operate! Chinese gamers are already boycotting LOL and other Tencent netease games! If EVE players don't resist and CCP continues to change, the result will be no PVE, only PVP with money, it's not a threat, it's a warning. 13 years of game career, very familiar with this operation mode, the last mine reform is the same, no one voice directly installed! Players are already hemorrhaging, and our entire league is no longer ready to renew Omega!

@Taz6688

2 жыл бұрын

They only want new players who like microtransaction, p2w make more cash for them.

Christ that was painful to watch. You definitely need to read and digest the information off camera first before trying to explain it to others... Especially when you can't work out how to open an Excel spreadsheet.

It may be that players have been charging too much lately, making CCP feel profitable, and rightly so. I've had enough of these changes to reduce pVE revenue. What increase PVP game, this is to want to find an excuse for capital operation! Ship price is still rising, pVE00 risk factor who do, absolutely no mom! This is the free exploration game, show me laugh. The authorities have been using their own methods to restrict the way players can play. Is that freedom?