A 25% reduction in highway fuel consumption is impressive. Even more given the car looks so stock still.

@Eduardo_Espinoza

8 ай бұрын

Wish there was a way to make the disc wheels look more stock

@santuki00

8 ай бұрын

@@Eduardo_Espinoza maybe getting them painted like a normal wheel?

@dstarr8222

7 ай бұрын

@@Eduardo_EspinozaNot sure if would be as efficient, but some manufacturers guide air around the wheels (think it’s called an air curtain)

@Splarkszter

7 ай бұрын

Brakes need cooling, priving brakes from airflow is a safety hazard.

@sandersson2813

7 ай бұрын

It looks stupid. Simply not worth doing

I mean, with the lowering springs, moon discs, white walls and roof rail delete it got a simple yet unique vibe

@francikaa1

Жыл бұрын

It had a bit of Back to the Future Part III vibe for sure.

@_..-.._..-.._

7 ай бұрын

I mean, honestly though.

The car actually looks really good, like the concept sketches they do when creating designs.

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I am very surprised with how large of an efficiency gain you had! Great work. Have you done this to your current daily driver?

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I have done similar modifications to later daily cars but not as extensively as on this one.

@kalmmonke5037

Жыл бұрын

@@BSport320 whats the milers per gallon improvement? think flight says he got almost 18 percent improvement in subaru flat 4 wagon

@diogonunes1865

Жыл бұрын

@@kalmmonke5037 the math is quite simple, by the numbers he gives, it was roughly 20% on countryroads and 25% on the autobahn

@martinsiebert3853

Жыл бұрын

@@BSport320 I drive a 3 liter ( 100 km ) diesel car and I would really like moon discs. How to mount them and do you sell ? I use 195/55x16 tires and in Denmark. Martin Siebert

@chiboreache

8 ай бұрын

1+ liter per 100km - just hilarious, even in my poor country with pricey gasoline - it's nothing, just 20l for 2k trip, costs about 100 euro extra 🤷‍♂ _(implying you are not poisoned by eco-populists)_

Your car looks like a futuristic concept car from the early 2000s, and I love it. It reminds me of my childhood days when I would spend hours staring at concept car photos.

About 20 years ago I did a similar experiment on my historic race car. I removed the wing mirrors and wipers, taped up the front panels and part of the front grille. It certainly helped reduce the lap time. The idea of using foam between the panels sounds very good and better than using "helicopter tape" which left a mess to polish out.

@sargera1

8 ай бұрын

too bad back then we dont have wi ng cams like honda E lol

Loving this. I've got a Touran converted to electric where low drag is even more important. The exhaust duct and air intakes are already closed off because we barely generate any heat at all. But that is only 2 of your 15 measures completed. Thanks for the inspiration!

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Sounds great!

@htimsid

6 ай бұрын

Interesting! Could you describe the conversion?

Martin, please keep doing what you’re doing. Love your videos!

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like it!

Even though I would not go this far on my cars it's nice to get some inspiration and see how much the modifications improve aerodynamics.

The 1.9TDI PDE is always remarkable in its fuel economy. A relative of mine has a 131hp 6 speed 1.9 in a Sharan, which is the biggest actual "car" you could get, maybe the Caddy Maxi is longer yes. But above that was the busses / transporter vehicles you could say. Well back to the story, despite being a very high and a moderatly long car with a huge windscreen, it is driven without every thinking about it, with 6,5l/100km. If you drive constantly with a little effort then 5,X is no problem. I drove it once and got 4,3l/100km on a 80km trip, 20km country road, 5km city, 55km Autobahn. But I also only drove 90-105km/h, much less than you with 130. Still for such a big car, I am always surprised, and it is not even really slow, the 1.9TDI has a lot of torgue until 2500rpm. VW was a very early adopter of offering 6 speed gearboxes even in cheaper cars and smaller engines, not just in sports cars.

@pawelrelidzynski680

7 ай бұрын

Exactly, i have a 2003 Alhambra with a chip mod for 150hp but also low ratios at lower ranges for fuel efficiency. that means that it has a higer turbo lag but i managed to acheive a 5,0l/100km on a 5000+km trip through the balkans (mountains etc) from Poland to Poland through basically all the balcan countries. Lowest avg i had was 3,7l/km on a 200km segment somewhere in Slovenia or Croatia, i dont remember. i cruised at about 90km/h without cruise control and managed to refuel iirc just 4 times during the whole trip. Also i thisn it has had the egr blocked at the time.

I’ve seen videos doing this, but seeing someone more qualified is a lot more intriguing.

The content level is pleasing and precise. Clear data and both including metric and imperial units. Bravo.

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Interesting. I've thought about doing something similar, but didn't think it'd be worth the effort. 20+% improvements definitely seems worth it, thanks for this.

Great stuff. I did a similar project a few years ago with a Polo 1.2 TDi. Got it basically for scrap money so hadn't anything to lose really. I stripped a lot of weight out as well. Was able to push over 100mpg out of it

Great instruction video 👏🏻 I’m glad KZread brought me here:D I’ve been considering similar modifications on my daily drive Škoda Felicia 1.9D for a while. First mod after new tyres was upper vent cover, and now I’m planning to cover more underneath parts

This is very cool! Thanks for sharing, I’m impressed with the gains!

So much stuff that a layman like me wouldn’t think of! And interesting to hear your process.

Love the video - great job man. Thank you for the time and effort.

Very thorough explanation, and a good do-it-yourself project. I would like to have seen your fuel mileage after you repaired/serviced the engine, but before your aero mods. Cheers from Canada.

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Yea, me too! Like I said, I sold this car years ago and didn't take this data at the time.

@anonanonkiewicz1921

7 ай бұрын

Now we can only estimate. He went from 5.5 to 4.1. Wheel alignment and engine service could have lowered the consumption to 5.2, maybe 5.0, but not less.

@goldenhandcuffs

7 ай бұрын

Perhaps also consider what the official manufacturer specs where for fuel economy at the time of the sale (2006). And yes, I know it’s done in ideal conditions etc. but it’s another data point to compare to.

@Jacksparrow4986

7 ай бұрын

​@@goldenhandcuffsclaimed consumption is usually easy to beat with 130km/h on the highway. My parents did a trip with 4.8 l petrol going 120 on a 1998 family car. Specs where 5.5 or something.

Excellent work! Very thoroughly and thoughtfully done! I know the exercise here is only aerodynamic improvements fit for your use case with a stock drivetrain but I would have been interested in additional modifications such as optimizing top transmission gear to sit at the most efficient RPM when at 80mph or other mechanical improvements and trade-offs.

I always wanted to do this So cool to see someone actually do it Awesome work And the car came out looking AMAZING as well

Years ago I did a fair amount of sealing around the radiator combo of a Volvo C30 for the same reasons you give here. Removed everything before selling the car too. I did some tufting on the rear hatch but decided that any modifications there would be too eye catching. I had experimented with tufting before on a glider's wing, to help with turbulator strip placement :)

Easy and informative! Great job, as usual!

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

You have presented it very well like a case study project

Nice video. I have the same 1.9tdi passat. Learned a few new things about it :D Thanks!

Amazing efficiency results!

That's really impressive! I'm definitely going to fit the engine undertray that was missing on my car when I got it!

First hot glue mention I obviously have to be: "oh well armchair this and that... Temporary at best... No good" Later on: "and then I just sat the rack back on and all the holes in the roof opened as if divinity" I actually stood and applauded. Bravo.

thats really cool. well done

Very intersting! Roughly 20% better, impressive 🏅

I love this. Inspires me to follow your thinking path.

Excellent engineering effort

you made the design better.

You sir are a LEGEND.

Awesome! I didn't expect it to be that much more efficient. I also think it looks really sleek and cool without the roof rails and with the moon disks!

@BSport320

8 ай бұрын

Glad you like it!

Great video. Done this stuff to my Lexus 10 years ago. People this does work.

I’m glad you were able to close off so much without the heat becoming an issue for braking, and engine cooling.

Would be nice if you had measured change in efficiency with each individual mod. Still pretty cool to see efficiency mods like this, and thanks for not making the video longer than necessary

Well explained! Thank you.

Very interesting, thank you.

This was way more interesting than I expected

Very cool! nice to see such a video, gives plenty to think off ;)

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

The Passat Variant already had a good (for 2006) drag coefficient of I think 0.29 or 0.3 (there was a Bluemotion version that even lowered this by 10% or so). Your modifications go even further and you may have been in the 0.25 range, possibly even lower. My current car, an 150HP TDI Arteon Shooting Brake, which is at 0.26, uses around 5.5-5.8l/100km with a not insignificant city driving ratio. I can easily dip it below 5l /100km, depending on the route and traffic. I find that quite impressive, considering this car is physically larger, weighs 1700 kg, has fat tires (235/18s), all modern creature comforts, safety features and is loaded with tech.

@rkan2

Жыл бұрын

DSG (a dry one) helps by 0.5L/100km easy and even more in the city.

@smileyguyz

Жыл бұрын

My brick of a car (2006 Honda Element) gets about 10L/100km, or 23mpg. I'm pretty jealous of your aero lol

@oliviersavard8676

6 ай бұрын

@@smileyguyz that's good for an element, i have a 2.5 inline 5 jetta wagon and i have difficulty to get under 10L/100km, i think my best was 9L/100km during a few 1200 km trips between my work and my parents home

this is the sort of modification im into. something cheap and practical that won't drastically change the car from its stock specs.

Thats the awesome part of being an engineer and know what u r doing

@jakubkrcma

Жыл бұрын

And the best part is you don't have to be an engineer at all. Just using common sense is fully sufficient for these modifications.

Stark durchdacht und das Optimum an Effizienz rausgeholt Tolles Video 👍🏻

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Danke!

Good job, man! Additionally, you can further improve the drag coefficient with more aerodynamic outer mirrors, changing the door handles for flush ones and lowering the windshield wipers into the bonnet. Thanks for your valuable contribution.

Good info, Thank you!

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great explanation

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Sehr schön gemacht!

Nice video. It helps!

Engineering at its best! Absolut genial was du da gemacht hast! Ich wäre extrem interessiert an einem leichten, minimalistischen, schwach motorisierten Kombi der auf Effizienz getrimmt ist. Ein Freund von mir hatte einen Renault Megane BJ 2015, 1.5dci mit 6 Gang HSG . Wenn man den sparsam fuhr (Tempo 90-100 auf der Autobahn) merkt man dass das Kühlwasser nicht auf Temperatur kam. Wir vermuteten immer dass das Auto mit dem selben Kühlpaket wie der 1.9dci ausgestattet wurde. Trotz lausiger aerodynamik konnte man den Megane problemlos mit 3.6l pro 100km fahren. Im Alltag mit Tempo 120-130 lag der Verbrauch immernoch bei respektablen 4,3l pro 100km.

amazing, how much I learned about aerodynamics

@BSport320

11 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

Great ideas thank you

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

I like the sleek look

that very cool way make car how you need it mi respect

I absolutely love this video! It would be really cool to see a build series of you modifying a car for a similar purpose!

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! Maybe in the future again.

Really nice! So, now I'm curious to see what you've done with your current car 😊

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Like the high-downforce package on my VW Bora during university?😅

That's really cool

This is real hypermiling 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I've seen this being done to other cars too and now I kinda wanna get a car to do this with. Tbh the moondisks with the whitewalls look pretty good on the Passat of this generation as well lol

Amazing video!! I Really Liked it. I wish you could do more of this videos. It would be great if you could do something similar modifications to an electric vehicle and see how Further it could go

thanks for share!

Awesome videos and great enginerring. I have a VW Polo with the 1.6 TDI. Like the last one ever sold. These engines are so awesome. Had the Passat with 1.9 TDI as well. Just awesome quality. I can use some of your ideas.

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Fascinating

Interesting. Thank you

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

New subscription great stuff

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub!

I have never seen those moondiscs, they are effective and look cool.

Excellent

I changed tire size from 205 to 185 and the fuel economy improved a good amount, less rolling resistance, I also installed turbine wheels from an older Mercedes that look similar to your moon discs.

This is awesome! I showed my dad, he drives a 2010 Passat wagon with petrol engine and DSG. He says he gets about 33mpg US at most. Similar climate in SE WI it sounds like, but his driving is a lot more urban than yours. Still, some cool ideas and the car looks good too!

Impressive project. Also cool thing you mentioned that you removed the mods before selling to avoid fire hazard for the next owner.

nice results.

Very interesting, never knew about the downhill-in-neutral-braking-while-towing test. I can do just under 6l/100km in my 1.8l 94 monopoint Passat limo on longer trips. Bet there's a lot to gain but I like it how it is

Cool Video! Makes me thinking about a flat underbody for Ma Corolla

Subscribed a couple of weeks ago and this channel allready feels like a gem. I can't wait for it to blow up but keep the honest interest trait of it and the fascination for the engineering parts, please

Tolles Video! Wäre unheimlich spannend zu wissen wie viel einzelne Veränderungen ausmachen. Die Felgen und die Tieferlegung alleine dürften schon grosse Veränderungen mit sich bringen.

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Danke! Ja beim nächsten Umbau messe ich nach jedem Schritt😁

First time I have watched a "video" with only pics. I dont even have a Volkswagen but this got me hooked. A

Very interesting. “I’m a quick driver”. Best way to reduce fuel consumption with *no work at all* is slow down 😂. Changing driving style is the the single most effective way of reducing fuel consumption. I have a W220 S320 Mercedes. During recent fuel shortages because of strikes in France I reduced my average consumption by 15% (down from 8.6l/100km to 7.3) just by driving at 70 instead of 85 in an 80 limit and 100 instead of 115 in a 110 limit and accelerating more gently and planning ahead better. At the time everyone was driving more slowly and more carefully for the same reason. It didn’t even impact journey times significantly. I very regularly use my car for the same 105-km journey. Typical journey times roughly went from 1h12m to 1h20m. As you say use case is also important. It’s a great argument for taking driving away from drivers and putting it in the hands of AI; robots would do the job far better…

Beautifull and eco 👍👍

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

nice video, quite instructive... i think that I might have, maybe, installed a fan topush some air through the exhaust system 'tunnel', maybe hooked to the switch for the radiator fan, so that it would provide a small airflow in that exhaust tunnel, whenever the car's radiator needed air, normally when stopped, so that you wouldn't overheat rustproofing paint/wax, sound absorption, or interior mat materials...but, hey, just an idea, cheap, efficient, easy, and just that extra bit of margin for safety...

Great video! If only the standard customer would have just a little technical understanding, manufacturers wouldn’t need to oversize most components. Cars would be cheaper, lighter and more aero.

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Very true, but if a customer reports an overheating engine or brakes, it's bad for the manufacturer.

@Paul_VanGo

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but most people are generally completely oblivious, so that's why. For themselves and for other road users. Plus, not all roads are flat like a pool table, like they are in Germany. Plus, not all fuels are of the same rating around the world. That's why the manufacturers must assume the worst. Plus, after driving for the last 35 years, with 50k per year, I've never been in an accident, but I'm still glad the car has crumple zones and airbags... So, in a way, your remark is unfounded. The closest one could get towards the cars you mentioned, is an 80's medium or lower class car, which, in case of an accident, crumples up around the occupants. And if the occupants didn't die instantly from the crash itself, he or she would die in the subsequent fire.

@dennismarks6133

Жыл бұрын

Oversizing is better than operating on the edge. This improves lifetime.

@AR_434

Жыл бұрын

@@dennismarks6133 Oversizing is mostly a sign of an engineer that’s either afraid to make a decision or doesn’t know what he’s doing… or both. A field especially plagued by this is civil engineering.

@dennismarks6133

Жыл бұрын

@@AR_434 No. You need some buffer in case something unpredicted happens. If you don't do that, you failed as an engineer.

You can get similar gains in fuel efficiency by other means (depending on the car). for example, I used to hae a 1072 Triumph Dolomite 1850 with a 4 speed manyal gearbox. In these cars the exhaust is particularly restrictive, so I replaced it with a rally spec exhaust and downpipe. Nothing else was done and average fuel economy improved from 30 mpg to 36mpg (UK gallons) and there was a modest improvement in performance. The other case ws on a 244 Volvo (B21A engine and 4 speen manual gearbox. I knew the car would need a new clutch soon, so with the help of the 240 specialist in the Volvo enthusiasts club, I also replaced the gearbox with an Overdrive one (0.67 overdrive) at rhe same time as the new clutch. Again nothing else was changed. this time fuel ecinomy improved from an average of 28mpg to 34mpg. Granted these would probably have cost more than in this VW's case (A custom rally exhaust and downpipe is NOT cheap, neither is an overdrive gearbosx an a new clutch) but the results were just as wotrh rthe expense as I kept these two cars for another 5 years or so.

It would be amazing if you could make tests like - fuel consumption with moon disks, fuel consumption with foam, fuel consumption with lower springs, fuel consumption with new tires, fuel consumption with plates under the car... etc We would have a hint with what we should begin with :) I have a Honda Fit/Jazz from 2003 and I would love to make some improvements...

Impressive results. It is interesting that you didn't sell the car, in the modded state for more. I would consider your use case to be quite beneficial to many.

Ein Ingolstädter Audianer, Reife Leistung! Grüße aus Neckarsulm

@BSport320

8 ай бұрын

Danke! Grüße zurück!

Spitze!

It is more important that the average cars , that accounts for millions of real world km, uses 1L less than to design an absolute record prototype car. So , your experiment has much value in the real world. Well done 👍

If the average person applied you methods, the following conditions would be likely. 1. Excessive break pad wear. 2. Warped break discs. 3. Hydro locked engine. (Most drivers don’t think about big puddles) 4. Blown head gasket, or over heating engine damage. Glad you warned that your mods were based on your driving needs. Unfortunately manufacturers have to try and design for those that pay no attention to conditions or maintenance. Your success shows just how much performance is lent on the table. Just out of curiosity, was your car one of the dreaded diesel gate cars? I enjoy your videos, thanks.

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

That's the reason I don't recommend any of this to anyone. I basically tried the things on my own car, I was not allowed to do to customer cars at my work in the technical development. The typical British hydrolocking would actually be less of a problem because the typical wave when hitting the water wouldn't splash right into the airfilter. That path was blocked at my car. Brake cooling on this car would still have been enough for 95% of customers and even in the Summer with air conditioning in traffic jam, the engine never reached more than 100deg water. So also that would be fine for most customers and the bluemotion models of VW confirm that. The only reason to open the upper air intake is a so-called "pull-down" at 45deg ambient temperature. So a hot car being cooled down inside as quickly as possible. With a closed upper air intake that takes slightly longer. This car was pre Diesel Gate

I really like little projects like this, well thought out! I have a California van with the 110kW TDI engine, my best mod to spare fuel is to accelerate easy and never go beyond 110kph; on long trips on flat land it takes about 6.5L/100km, these days in a more mountainous area and ith short trips I'm at around 7.8 combined sadly, and I don't see any easy legal mods I could do to lower that.

great video :)

@BSport320

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

This is very cool! I think if you took the roof rails off and did the full moon wheel covers, you’d save an easy 5-10 % on fuel consumption. 90% of us don’t use our roof racks anyway. I gained 10% taking my lumber rack off of my work van, alone.

There’s a guy in like Oregon or Washington in the USA who claims to have gotten an old F250 over 25mpg (would have been like 15mpg or worse normally) with similar ideas. Covered all the undercarriage with plates, built a custom lid for his bed that was aero, put in a button starter so he would never idle, removed the a/c and a whole bunch of other parts to drop weight. The truck was functional but not really as a truck anymore. It’s funny because he could have just started with a car that got better mileage, like in this case.

Another thing you could do if you are good with any bondo or other body work materials is cover the unused vents to create a smooth surface this would further reduce drag you could even install a small diffuser that will increase some down force but should also create less drag if you want to goto the extreme remove the door handles and once again smooth it out with something else just maybe have a latch underneath to get in next you could have vents coming from above or on the side next to wheel well to reduce the air tumble caused from the tire and extract it out the side further reducing drag and adding some cooling another thing you could do is add a vent somewhere along the hood to reduce the pressure and heat under the hood

Sehr interessantes Video, ich bin grad in einer sehr ähnlichen lage und optimiere meinen T4 1.9 td auch auf Verbrauch. Die Aerodynamik habe ich noch nicht angepasst, bin aber durch Anpassung der ESP und durch eine sehr lange Übersetzung jerzt bei 5,2L bei 10% Stadtverkehr, 20% Landstraße und 70% Autobahn bei 100km/h. Durch einen größeren Pumpenkopf und Anpassung des Spritzbeginns habe ich den Mitteldruck erhöht und den MFB50 näher an OT gebracht. Das Fahrwerk habe ich auf eine möglichst gerade Spur eingestellt und die reifen (195/65r15) mit 3,8 bar bei maximalem Druck. Ich fahre täglich 180km Strecke zu meinem Ingenieurspraktikum wo ich in der Motorentwicklung Arbeite und am Wochenende 380km in die Heimat.

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

OK also motorseitig schon einiges gemacht. Aero ist bei einem Bus natürlich eine Herausforderung.

Very interesting.

Very, very interesting. Thank you! I would be curious about how much each individual modification made to the efficiency improvements, though. Nice work.

@BSport320

7 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Love your project! You can also add a lower front lip, so less air go under the car. Removing weight from car helps too like lightweight car battery, fiberglass hood no spare tire and lightweight seats.

@RennieAsh

7 ай бұрын

It may not help a lot at steady state cruising, but in the city perhaps

@marinostsalis314

7 ай бұрын

@@RennieAsh that is true but if you cruising on hills then still you get the benefit of less weight. I myself saw a 15% + increase of consumption from cruising on hills even though downhill riding is like 0 consumption going uphill even few degrees it kills the overall consumption.

Very interesting project. I used to own a BMW E46 320d and it was also really economical and I hypermiled it a lot. I was able to bring the fuel consumption down to 4.7l on my commute to work (country/highway roads with max 100km/h). At normal Autobahn speeds on my trip to France (120-160km/h) I managed 1000km with 5,3l/100km I'd wonder how much could be achieved with those kinds of modifications on this model.

Nice video, where do you get the obersize wheelcovers from?