We want to hear from you too! What do you think? Open Carry or Concealed Carry?

@Siskiyous6

2 жыл бұрын

Comfortable carry

@guydavid8656

2 жыл бұрын

I have absolutely no problem with open carry as a law, I myself prefer to carry Concealed, that doesn’t mean I’m gonna cut try and infringe on restrict anybody else to carry if they want to carry open,

@wesleycarlson8008

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer concealed carry: open carry draws attention that I don’t want. That being said, to each his own. I would hope if you choose to open carry you use a holster with some degree of retention.

@waggtech4883

2 жыл бұрын

I have no problems seeing open carry but it’s concealed carry for the win. Stealth matters.

@jimtewa8096

2 жыл бұрын

Mr. Ayoob, I am nobody judge people or the Law, but I don't believe in open carry for one reason only, if you are open carrying and your out shopping lets say, and somebody is looking to rob this establishment if they are smart they reconnoiter this store if they see your open carry you will be the first target, take out the first threat, please correct me with your thoughts Sir.

Open carry for the Woods. Concealed carry for the Hoods.

@Redeemedpooper

2 жыл бұрын

How do conceal a rifle?🙃

@markpoppas8058

2 жыл бұрын

@@Redeemedpooper 😂😂😂

@nmr6988

2 жыл бұрын

That is fabulous.

@tjmayer9103

2 жыл бұрын

Good philosophy M E, I like it.

@titaniumgreen5367

2 жыл бұрын

👍👍

With the high amount of people unable to mind their own business, in today's world. I prefer concealed carry. 👍

@anraegodley-cooper6321

2 жыл бұрын

NAILED IT

@HolmWrecker

Жыл бұрын

I open carry as it is legal in my state. Freemen don't explain themselves or apologize for it. I've never been a victim. My local law enforcement doesn't care that I'm openly armed so no one else should either. I get looks but no one says anything about it.

@GORILLA_PIMP

Жыл бұрын

@@HolmWrecker Apologize now then

@adamr9720

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Why would you give up your surprise advantage? If I was a bad guy, my first target would be the guy I knew had a firearm. Goodnight.

@lehilehi8636

Жыл бұрын

@@HolmWrecker 1q

I don't wanna advertise that I'm carrying a firearm. For ME personally, I would NOT open carry!!! But I WILL NOT judge anybody that does.

@alfonsobenitez8574

2 жыл бұрын

I agreed with you.

@jaydunbar7538

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt that’s actually true, in a setting like a mountain man rendezvous where just about everyone has a gun it’s much easier to open carry without a second thought as it is the norm in that situation instead of drawing attention to you. Yes I understand the statement you made, just pointing out absolutes are based on sets of assumptions that’s are rarely as absolute as assumed when the statement is made. I would never open carry in a major city in a public area unless it’s in a convention or something where It wouldn’t be out of place, but out in rural communities it’s not an issue. I’ve worn my 44 in a quick draw to town and the only person that’s ever said a word about it was an elderly lady who asked about it because it reminded her of the 357 she used to carry when she was younger. No I don’t normally open carry to town because I don’t like to advertise unnecessarily, but I live in bear country so I do frequently open carry when working out in the woods and things happen that send me to town so instead of running into the house and swapping holsters and firearms i just head to town and it is what it is.

@Brett235

2 жыл бұрын

I would add to your comment by saying that if someone is going to carry open at least have a good holster and belt. Carry your firearm in a professional manner instead of sloppily or haphazardly. I see some guys in my town wearing cargo shorts with a holster meant for a belt hanging off the side of one of their pockets, it's unnerving and makes me cringe. If the guy tripped and fell his gun would simply fall out on the ground and that is very irresponsible.

@davidparker9676

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaydunbar7538 Do you carry for protection from humans or wildlife? If you are on your own property, like a ranch, open carry is ideal. But when you are out in public, the negatives outweigh the positives, especially in a city.

@unclecracker5010

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaydunbar7538 Yeah. I see your point. I do live in the CITY. So open carry is dangerous. Out in the woods and country. Open carry is normal!!!!!

I am all for Open Carry in a lever 3 holster. It should not be creating fear in the public, it should be creating relief and a sense of safety in them!

@Nathan-xb4yg

Ай бұрын

💯💯💯🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

I'm a cop in Arizona in a medium sized city immediately adjacent to Phoenix. I'd say the populus borders urban and suburban, but the city I work in is large enough that it has rural areas and farms as well. I see people open carrying pretty frequently in all parts of my jurisdiction and it does not bother me in the least bit. I have however observed people with zero situational awareness doing it, in crappy holsters, and sometimes no holster at all just shoved in a pocket or belt with the grip sticking out. The one that worries me is open carriers playing around on their phones, but fortunately I have never had to respond to an incident of a lawfully armed citizen being disarmed. I would like to say "male Karens" as Massad said are absolutely a real thing. I have unfortunately responded to incidents where people have lied about the actions of open carriers and even some criminals who have had guns pulled on them who then tried to call us in retaliation on the concealed carrier. That being said I have never arrested someone because they pointed their finger and said "He/She did X" that does not develop probable cause. What is nice about being a police officer in the digital age is damn near every business, intersection, and many residences have cameras. Cameras don't lie. Every instance I have dealt with of a male Karen lying about a lawfully armed citizen was exonerated on the spot by finding local cameras (and witnesses) and watching footage, and even the couple rare instances of the criminal calling about having had a gun pulled on them (both were attempted carjackings). Thankfully Arizona also criminalizes false reporting to law enforcement and I gladly have and will continue to make those arrests. Great video.

@anraegodley-cooper6321

2 жыл бұрын

Niiiice, Blessings and love to you and your family.

@JustTheTip556

2 жыл бұрын

You sound like a great cop!

@LuckyCharms777

Жыл бұрын

False reports is why I won’t have any gun-related stickers on my truck, and another reason is its an advertisement to car burglars.

@JustTheTip556

Жыл бұрын

@@LuckyCharms777 yeah that's a good idea about not having stickers or whatever even more so now with all this red flag law bs

@johnhsconiers3308

Жыл бұрын

Awesome

I’m open to either one, just depends on what your carry or surrounding, I believe don’t look for trouble and it won’t matter how you carry

Iam a retired First Seargent with the NCSHP. I strongly support ccw. In my opinion open carry has so many cons. One of my dt instructors told my class " It's not your gun you just bring it to the fight. It belongs to last person who controls it" That was forty years ago and still true today. I prefer to go unnoticed.

@MrJimmy-fl2bn

2 жыл бұрын

If your in a place where your threat has 4 legs not 2 I don’t see any problem with open carry. For example if hiking camping fishing or hunting.

@jamesa.7604

2 жыл бұрын

@Chuck McMahan. Thank you for your service to my home state and I agree with you fully. Former NCDOC Officer.

@bassblaster162

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJimmy-fl2bn Agreed.

@lonewolf30531

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@SouthOfSanity79

2 жыл бұрын

And that's why the only time I ever open carry is at a range or when I'm out hunting. Day to day I always concealed carry I don't fumble with or adjust the pistol either but I make sure it stays covered. Typically I'm wearing an owb holster but I have a button up colored long sleeve dress shirt that I leave unbuttoned. Quick easy access to the firearm. My justification for never open carrying in public on a day-to-day basis is simple.. it's unwanted attention. Nobody needs to know that you have a firearm it's not their damn business. And last but not least hypothetically let's say someone's going to do something stupid and they're also carrying a firearm and they see that you're carrying one.. there's a damn good chance that you're there first target. Now they have more than one gun. I just feel that concealed is the best way to go always.

I have been carrying concealed for 43 years. I would never carry open unless I was on my own farm. The element of surprise far exceeds for me the open carry. I have walked into a restaurant with a guy carrying open with his back to the door. I or anyone else could have easily disarmed him and shot him with his own pistol. I also firmly believe that this is the United States and each person has the right to choose what they want to do.

@Brett235

2 жыл бұрын

That's how I see it also. The people that say "they can't disarm me because I will feel them trying and stop them" don't understand that if someone is brave enough to take your gun they're brave enough to hit you in the back of the head and disarm you? Criminals follow the path of least resistance and wrestling over a gun isn't their way of getting guns. They'll simply knock you out and then take your gun.

@alfonsobenitez8574

2 жыл бұрын

I agreed with you. Escaped from a communist country, served in their military in the war in Angola, lost an arm. I thank God for the USA, but I also see that this wonderful nation have been taken over by the left wing Democrats. We see it in the public schools and Universities. They are all controlled by the Marxists Socialist who want to take our freedom. With this idiot J B as commander in shit, open borders with Mexico and Canada, we must be prepared for the worst. I am 68 y o. Ready to do whatever it takes. This is the only bastion of freedom in the world.

@johna2008

2 жыл бұрын

The one addendum I would add is a level 3 retention holster. It's what most police use

@davidparker9676

2 жыл бұрын

There is nothing worse than providing a criminal your weapon to use against you. I agree 100%

@snek9353

2 жыл бұрын

@@johna2008 The ability to use a good retention holster is part of why I most often carry OWB. There's no good IWB retention holsters.

The thing about Massad is he is always calm, clear and honest in his assessments. I live in an open carry state and I do carry open on occasion. My decision is made exactly like what was mentioned, where am I going and what will I be doing. I also believe that since it is legal here it's good for the general public to see someone legally carrying and being a good citizen, hold the door for others, smile, be polite. If we don't exercise our rights we will lose them.

I live in a constitutional carry state. I have a CCW so that I can travel to other states and still carry. The only time I open carry is in my home or on my property. Where I am more worried about four legged threats than two legged. Just because I can, does not mean I should. Never give a criminal an even break. Let it be a surprise.

@johnhsconiers3308

Жыл бұрын

Right on sir my thoughts as well

@yosefmacgruber1920

Жыл бұрын

Dear old granny might not be as helpless as she appears.

@maddogs1989

10 ай бұрын

So do you often practice drawing from concealed then? Or when you go to the range to just use the bench or have you ever practiced engaging from the draw? If not your as big as liability as you think open carriers are. More likely more so as you're more likely to get those around you killed attempting to draw after a crime is committed.

@matthewblumenthal804

10 ай бұрын

@@maddogs1989 Geeze. A KZread toughie. My training methods and strategies are none of your business. I have a range on my property. I never shoot off a bench because I haven't built one. I'll probably do so for rifle sighting at some point, but that's not the subject of this video. What do you do that makes you such an authority pray tell? Besides talking tough that is.

I have never been upset, or even mildly concerned, when I see open carrying. In fact, I feel better out in public knowing someone is carrying.

@Subdood04

Жыл бұрын

Respectfully going to disagree. I have seen some here in AL open carrying who had cheap and non secure holsters, and based on their mannerisms and actions were not truly comfortable carrying in any capacity. Their situational awareness was severely lacking. And in one case saw the firearm actually fall out of holster when they bent over in a Walmart.

I've been "open carrying" since the mid 90's, from a shoulder holster 1911, to a 45 single shot derringer, on my belt, I've had no comments in all those years, except thanks, from the occasional person who notices. I'm a retired Marine, easily identified as such, and living in rural N.C., generally respected. I've stopped two robberies simply by walking into the store with a 1911, and being seen, and the would be thief choosing to leave. I've been carrying since about 69, when my father and I were robbed at gunpoint. I believe always carrying openly informs the community, and I avidly enjoy the conversation with anyone with concerns. I grew up in Chicago, with no intent to carry until we were robbed, and mere possession of a gun has ended several incidents.

Situational awareness is the first step to avoiding having to ever pull your weapon. Know who is around you and what they are doing . Constantly link around .

@bluespadere51stinfantrydiv62

Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely one of the many things the armed forces pushes constantly situational awareness know your surroundings have an out have a plan and scan

The Walmart here in Maine has an appliqué door decal welcoming customers with "Gun Owners: Kindly refrain from openly displaying your firearm while shopping". Because it is a Constitutional Carry State they know their customers are carrying so rather than say no firearms allowed they ask to not openly display them, hide them from public view while shopping.

@stopdeletingmyaccount125

2 жыл бұрын

In which case if I'm able I'll conceal it. I have no problem with that attitude.

@thewhiskeycowboy-official

2 жыл бұрын

And I would simply carry as I am that day. I don't carry to upset others, or to HIDE the fact i am carrying from others. I carry. Sometimes it is seen, other times it is not. It is not about me being an ass, but about not allowing OTHERS to dictate my exercise of Constitutionally protected Rights, in ways that are legal. And I don't understand how so many others (not saying you are one of them) don't understand this. Target also had an anti-gun policy, and I shopped there as well... not a single employee or customer appeared to care one bit that I was carrying. I am a friendly guy. I don't act aggressive or bother others. I have on my belt two knives, a cellphone in case, and my pistol. Most folks comment on my belt buckle or hat before they even think twice about my pistol. And frankly no matter what you do, wear, or have, there will be someone who doesn't like it. But I have found that it is best to live your life as YOU see fit, and just not be a jerk, and it usually works out for the best all around. It's that simple.... pistol or no pistol.

@megatrends

2 жыл бұрын

@@thewhiskeycowboy-official That's it right there, agreed.

@damagecontrol7

Жыл бұрын

@@thewhiskeycowboy-official If you ever do get in an unavoidable argument with some troublemaker, aren't you a little concerned that they'll be able to describe your gun and possibly say you pulled it on them in order to get you in hot water?

@rebelscumspeedshop8677

Жыл бұрын

Walmart has that generic sign everywhere. In NC the sign is irrelevant because NC says that firearm and weapons signs have to be separate from any other sign , be clearly visible and in bold letters.

I prefer to open carry. I live in Arizona and open carry is more comfortable for me. I have a Beretta M9A3 that I carry in a custom made shoulder holster. I use to carry on the hip but I have had 8 hip surgeries do to being hit with an RPG in Afghanistan. So, I went to the shoulder holster. Most times I have a t-shirt on with the shoulder holster over it, because of it being 90 to 110 degrees. Arizona is a very gun friendly state.

@007Chancellor

2 жыл бұрын

Love, LOVE our state. I'm down in Pearce - and people carrying is a common and welcome sight around here!

@garywelker9636

Жыл бұрын

@@007Chancellor hello I wear bib Overalls is there a holster will work for me thanks

@dalepres1

5 ай бұрын

I like my shoulder holster because no matter where I go or what I am doing, I always have my shoulders with me - even if I don't have pants that would support a belt or holster.

@johnbohannon3910

Ай бұрын

In the bib pocket with pocket holster ​@@garywelker9636

Massad you are the most interesting, well-informed firearms educator I've ever heard. Thank you. Keep your videos coming I love them.

I never ever advertise that I’m armed. It’s always concealed and I don’t wear a Glock hat or an NRA t-shirt. I’m the Grey Man.

@carminemurray6624

2 жыл бұрын

Or a MAGA hat, that could be a problem too 😁

@filtonkingswood

2 жыл бұрын

The Grey man. Moves slowly but thinks fast and is always aware of his surroundings is likely to live longer and safer.

@LuckyCharms777

Жыл бұрын

Yep, the Grey Man. That’s why I don’t even workout, I don’t want to look like a buff military vet with a concealed firearm. 😉 Nobody is expecting Mr. Dad Bod to be armed. 😂

@Bluescout612

Жыл бұрын

I agree but I'm not sure it really matters. Like Mas said everyone is buried in their cell phones and totally impervious to anything around them. Maybe a criminal about to do a crime but again there are so many people wearing a plethora of shirts now days I'm not sure they will take the time to read what a shirt/hat really says.

@saltwatersaddletramp7229

Жыл бұрын

@@Bluescout612 I think those of us who carry are a lot more self aware than the average Joe.

I tend to be in the middle. Often it depends on the time of year and the weather. Lol

Great video ! I live in an open carry state with CHL available. Personally, I carry concealed when in public 99% of the time. The 1% is when checking the mail or making a quick fuel run etc... Some of my neighbors also carry concealed, I've never seen them carry open. But we talk and share the same views as this video. My main reason for concealed as opposed to open: people can identify my weapon and if they know where I live, they know there is at least 1 item of value in my home. Kind of the same reason I don't have NRA stickers on my vehicles.

@geico1975

2 жыл бұрын

Same in NC, anyone of legal age can open carry no question's asked, but if you want to conceal got to get the permit. I've always thought that a little strange. I mean, I have my CCP but wouldn't need one if I opened carried. When open is okay, what the heck's the hang-up about my shirt tail out:) HA!

@Janzer_

Жыл бұрын

literally the exact opposite about knowledge of weapon in the home for me. this is probably based on where you're located and the types of people around. i live in a high crime area. concealed in public, open on property. too many junkies around throughout the day and they walk fast past my place because i've done what i can to make it less appealing to criminals, junkies, opportunists. cameras, dogs, lighting help for basic deterrents versus neighbors further down that leave gates open/unlocked and then complain that they have things stolen.

@AroundSun

Жыл бұрын

@@geico1975 NC is strange that you may be given a pistol permit to purchase a handgun and have the right to openly carry, but can be denied a conceal carry permit...

@geico1975

Жыл бұрын

@@AroundSun Yes, I never really thought of it all that way but it's true. $10.00 to obtain a pistol permit at 21-years of age, so long as you pass a background check from your Counties Sheriff's Department. Then you can buy a pistol. Once and if you get a concealed carry permit/license, permits in NC, the CCP allows you to purchase other/more pistols, there good for 5-years, after I think 10-years, they start being good for 10-years, not sure about that one 100 percent. Folks who open carry just have to pay the $10.00 fee for another pistol permit every time they want to buy another handgun.

@geico1975

Жыл бұрын

@@AroundSun Crazy story, I always purchased the $10 permit when I wanted to but a pistol before 2019-2020 COVID-19 and all, and I never thought about conceal carry, just never really crossed my mind. I just had my gun in the car when I went somewhere to shoot it, but a friend of mine works for the Sheriff's Dept. and he told me if you ever might want to get your conceal permit now's the time because no one knows what's gonna happen with everything because of COVID-19, so I didn't get my CCP until like Dec. 2019 or Jan. 2020 or something. About a week after I got mine folks started having to wait like 6-months to a year before getting one. Nowadays, fees and prices have doubled seems like, glad I got mine when I did though...

Mr. Massad, When I first got my concealed carry license I thought I was going to conduct an experiment at which I did. My state has no restrictions on how many guns I can be in possession of so, what I did is conceal four firearms on me; one on my left ankle and the others around my waist. Then I went to my local mall with just an oversized T-shirt on and walked around and no one noticed. You are right most people are buried in their phones. It proved my assumption as well that a lot of people have no situational awareness. I am constantly looking at the waist band of people and their demeanor. That was the one and only time I have ever done that. Now I only carry one pistol concealed.

@danielmorgan4899

2 жыл бұрын

You wear a belt and suspenders too ?

@larrythompson8630

2 жыл бұрын

I knew Police from school. They knew I was armed. New Officer was clueless. I offered to let him search me in office. He found one. I pulled 3 others out after he said I was clean. Plus a decent size knife. “You don’t stop once you find one” He quit Police work a month later. I notice open carry folks. But watching others. Nobody notices them. But I prefer concealed. Because even if situation happens. Drawing, firing is not my first response.

I open carry, I carry concealed. Most days I barely conceal my gun t-shirt over the owb holster and I go handle my business. I notice open carriers because I look for them. I also notice a lot of them are using shit holsters, nylon universal types that don't hold anything securely or open top holsters with zero retention. I prefer open carry because as a former police officer and uniformed security officer that's the way I carried all the time so for me it's a little more comfortable because that's the way I'm used to carrying. I almost only cover the gun when open carry is not allowed.

im an advocate of both! I choose concealed carry for the same reason I don't have a Glock sticker on the window of my vehicle, that being, unwanted attention! I also enjoy the art of concealment!

@thewhiskeycowboy-official

2 жыл бұрын

You bring up a great point... so many profess to not want to draw attention to themselves or that they have guns, but then drive around with advertisements of it on their vehicles, or wear t-shirts or ball caps with it, and so on. I think most folks don't think things through and say things that support their bias. Simply put though, your actions and movements will draw attention far quicker than if you have a gun on your hip. The same way folks don't realize that the motion to draw a weapon, open or concealed, will draw the SAME attention. It is your movement, not what you have around your body that gets attention most of the time... and more so in an age where folks have cellphones or other items around their belts as pretty normal. Carry. And carry the way it is legal and suits "you" and the factors "you" have and figured into the matter. Let others argue to defend their bias one way or the other. I also (like you) support all legal and responsible carry.. and neither hinges on open or concealed. Cheers.

Massad Ayoob is quickly becoming one of my favorites. He’s so knowledgeable giving great thought to his comments. He points out things I had never thought about and some things I had but never heard anyone mention.

Excellent advice, Massad! Open and conceal carrying offer different pros and cons - the 2A community hurts itself when it insists only one is “correct” for an armed citizenry.

I live in CT. It is definitely one of the more anti gun states. It’s legal to open carry but in my 41 yrs here I’ve seen less than 5 people do it. I would never open carry for the same reason you mentioned last. False claims. There are sick people out there that would love nothing more than to see a gun owner go to jail simply for owning one. Great points and great delivery. Thank you sir.

@digitalperson108

2 жыл бұрын

Yea CT is a funny state. Open carry legal, easy enough to get a CCW permit. I’ve seen maybe 3 people open carry in 20+ years…I would never do so. Too many retention risks and too many uptight people.

@anraegodley-cooper6321

2 жыл бұрын

Born and raised in Bridgeport Ct, NAILED IT.

@SouthOfSanity79

2 жыл бұрын

I have family down in connecticut. They've told me that Connecticut is catching up with Massachusetts and California regarding how horrendous and horrific the ridiculous amounts of anti-2a laws that are currently in place. I like being in New hampshire. You can carry however you want just so long as you're not prohibited whether you're a resident or not. That includes concealed carry. A lot of people don't believe that you can come to New Hampshire and concealed carry if you're not a resident. Well you can. Same with Vermont and maine. But being prohibited still means prohibited. A lot of people don't seem to understand that.

@digitalperson108

2 жыл бұрын

@@SouthOfSanity79 yea its kinda crazy for sure. The “assault weapons” legislation following sandy hook was certainly just the beginning really. As the nyc elites creep into the state, hastened during covid, it will only get worse.

@SouthOfSanity79

2 жыл бұрын

@@digitalperson108 I can understand people wanting something done regarding shootings. I would love them to do something to reduce it. But we need to get realistic. More legislation on what's already out there isn't going to do anything. It's been over 80 years now and there are literally hundreds of laws on the books throughout the 50 states and it doesn't stop anything. One of the big deals is we need to stop being so fucking lenient with people that commit crimes. One guy murdered his pregnant girlfriend and his two daughters with a firearm and he got life in prison. I don't know about you but somebody like that deserves death in my opinion why should we have to flip the bill to keep that son of a bitch alive for the next 30 or 40 years? But anyway.. like I said there are ways to reduce it it's never going to be completely stopped. But if the politicians would stop worrying about money and actually focus on the problem we could come up with realistic measures to reduce firearm violence. But all they give a fuck about is lining their pockets and being big and powerful. Think about what happens every time there's a tragedy.. they say they're going to apply more legislation and sometimes they do.. but all it does is divide Us in half one side.. usually the Democrats get millions of dollars generated for their cause and nothing changes and then the other side the side that I'm on... The pro 2A side.. we generate millions of dollars for organizations like the NRA and nothing changes. And then wait a little while and repeat. 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

As a resident of Birmingham Alabama, I can tell you as an over the road trucker, that Alabama is one of the most gun friendly states there is. With that being said, I personally don't open carry, except in certain places. Alabama is an open carry state ( not Constitutional Carry yet) We are soon to be Constitutional Carry on Jan 1st 2023. I will continue to carry concealed. Great video.

@1watersthree

Жыл бұрын

I am looking forward to that but I am still getting my CCW renewed simply because I go to Florida sometimes and that’s not going to be a constitutional carry state anytime soon.

@anthonyjenkins2001

9 ай бұрын

I've been a ccw holder since 06. I also live in Alabama. I've seen a few guys open carry but never did it myself. I just prefer concealed but id never knock Joe Bob for doing it.

I don’t have a problem with open carry laws because then if a state has an open carry law and you accidentally show your weapon you don’t get in trouble for it, for example Florida doesn’t have an open carry law now they adjusted the law a little bit, but it used to be that if your shirt came up and somebody saw you carrying you could get in trouble for brandishing, so now they made it where if it’s unintentional you can’t get in trouble for it. If the law allows open carry you can’t get in trouble for it regardless. If I have a choice because I’ve had bad experiences in the past I wouldn’t open carry even if it is the law. I think it’s good to have the option but I prefer concealed carry. Less attention drawn.

@alfonsobenitez8574

2 жыл бұрын

I think open carry is a stupid law, but is up to the individual.

@isrstrategies

2 жыл бұрын

@@alfonsobenitez8574 in a national emergency situation of unrest or escalated violence like we saw after George floyd it’s needed, and it could be in the future unfortunately especially if the left try’s some stuff in the near future

@Jonathan906

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And the reason you state is a big part of why I favor open carry being legal.

@lordofthewoods

2 жыл бұрын

@@alfonsobenitez8574 Open carry is not a "stupid law", it is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.

@chuckoaks6756

2 жыл бұрын

Accidentally exposing a firearm isn't brandishing. Lots of people think printing is brandishing a concealed firearm aswell but its not. Whether the carrier has any self awareness or not is the issue here.

I am a CCW supporter. It makes little sense to me to advertise one’s status. If you are a uniformed peace officer or military policeman, of course open carry makes sense. Otherwise, do as you think best within the law.

@MrFixItGa

2 жыл бұрын

What makes them different to you? Let me assume like you probably do. They are well trained? They are more trained? They have more sense of right and wrong? I disagree with this mentality whole-heartedly. It's a well-known fact in the 2A community that many cops (and probably even more soldiers) never even held a gun before they joined. Who would you feel more safe around? Your dad that never served and isn't a cop, but has handled guns for 60 of his 70 years on this planet, or your brother in law that just left basic or the academy, never having touched a gun in his first 25 years of life? I'll take the first guy any day of the week. No one cares that cops open carry, yet so many people in the 2A community care if we do. 🙄

@jonnyt16

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrFixItGa Finally someone in these comments that truly gets it. Thank you!

@daviddacactus

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrFixItGa The difference is that everyone knows uniformed military or police are carrying a weapon so concealing it makes no sense. A regular citizen is usually not carrying so having a weapon concealed gives you an advantage in surprise.

@lordofthewoods

2 жыл бұрын

@@daviddacactus Concealing it would slow down anyone who sought to disarm them... just as it would when a "civilian" is carrying. I wouldn't want to be open-carrying ANYWHERE I had to squeeze through a crowd... whether I was a cop or not!

@megatrends

2 жыл бұрын

As stated in this video environment dictates where I open carry or conceal carry. For me open carry equates to waving the American Flag and has a distinct purpose. I conceal carry most of the time.

It depends where you live-both macro and micro. I carry open, even in the classroom as a teacher. The pupils love having a "cowboy" style teacher. When I am in more threatening areas, I keep it out of sight as not to be targeted for theft, murder or both. In the winter, with a coat, I'll even use a shoulder holster to conceal and facilitate easier draw.

@m4rvinmartian

2 жыл бұрын

Converted to shoulder holster this past winter. It's perfect for a concealed draw.

@Uberragen21

2 жыл бұрын

🤠👍

@user-uz7dm6qn3y

2 жыл бұрын

@DawnTheFoxUwU I live in Israel. Technically, teachers are forbidden to come to school armed, but many of us flout that law. I've been disregarding it for over 25 years.

@Beuwen_The_Dragon

Жыл бұрын

Having open carried for years now, I’ve had far more people come up to me and ask me questions about what gun I’m carrying, why I’m carrying, or asking about laws or the 2nd amendment, or just outright thanking me for exercising my Rights to keep the tradition alive. I’ve never once been questioned about my firearm by police, despite many public interactions and passings, and I have not yet been mugged while carrying openly. That said, I first started carrying concealed, when I was prohibited from doing so at work. During this time I was mugged 3 times, and each time my would be attacker fled immediately at the sight of my gun. Thus, I still carry openly as my preferred choice. Most would be attackers are not looking for a fight, but an easy target, and if I am not visibly armed, I look just like any other unarmed, and Defenceless bloke. Any attacker willing to sneak up on you and beat you over the head or shoot you in the back will do so whether you are visibly armed or not. Ambush tactics are your greatest weakness, regardless of how you carry, and everybody who carries, openly or concealed, is already a target for such perps. Carry how you most feel comfortable, and be grateful that more of your fellow people are also carrying.

I really appreciate how you can present an idea from all sides and explain logically why you believe what you do. It’s so rare anymore. Thank you.

The goal is to have a society that is so gun-friendly that people could open carry left and right and no one would bat an eye. I think open carrying respectfully and reasonably is just one of many steps to get there. But of course far more effective is introducing more people to the 2nd Amendment, taking someone shooting, have civil discussions on gun debates, and educate people on why our right to bear arms is essential. I believe we are winning this fight, because more and more people are buying guns for the first time and more people realizing that they are the ones responsible for our own protection and their family, not the police 10 minutes away.

The Active Self Protection channel on YT has several videos of open-carriers getting their weapons snatched when caught by surprise. This should be the worst nightmare of anyone carrying a firearm. To anyone who insists on openly carrying in public, you must, must, MUST be aware of your surroundings at all times. Just my 2 cents.

@shaemuscarr4492

2 жыл бұрын

I Open Carried for years until ID passed Constitutional Carry and I agree 100% that if you are going that route, your Situational Awareness needs to be just One Click Shy of Active Paranoia... And TRAIN against the possibility of someone making a Grab for your Weapon...

@robinstewart6510

2 жыл бұрын

Millions openly carry firearms. The odds of that (open-carried gun snatched) happening are extremely low. A few videos of isolated incidents (lightning striking) here or there don't change that reality.

@anraegodley-cooper6321

2 жыл бұрын

I open and conceal carry, when I open carry I do so with a level 2 to 3 holster.

@ACGBLR

2 жыл бұрын

Inowing your surroundings should be the same, whether CCW or open.

@robinstewart6510

2 жыл бұрын

​@@anraegodley-cooper6321 .. Some must live in some mighty strange neighborhoods. I've carried firearms off and on for decades and nobody has ever tried to take one. Never even heard of it happening. I suppose it could (anything is possible), but the odds of it seem extremely low. Most likely have a far greater chance of shooting themselves.

There are those in society that do panic at the sight of a firearm. As a responsible gun owner I do carry concealed in order to mitigate their anxiety. Your calm, well thought out explanations are always appreciated.

@rebelscumspeedshop8677

Жыл бұрын

Lol yea, they panic at the sight of a gun but they will tailgate someone on the interstate going 20 mph over the speed limit in the rain and not bat an eye.

@Beuwen_The_Dragon

Жыл бұрын

There are people who panic at the sight of black people in hoodies or white peoples in tank tops. I do not cater my Rights to the ‘emotional comfort zone” of those around me. That said, I dress sharp, and carry myself in an alert yet professional manner, so I needn’t fear being thought of as a hoodlum.

What I don't understand is why someone with a CHL can conceal their handgun, but not a fixed-blade knife, at least in the jurisdictions with which I am familiar.

You make good argument for concealed carry. I tend to open carry . I rather deter then have have to pull my weapon .

Shall not be infringed - I believe in comfortable carry, I put a gun on comfortably. If an outer garment covers it fine, if it is open because of the weather that is fine too. If we had Liberty this would not be an issue.

I lived in an open carry state before and excepted when working as a uniformed police officer I never open carried. Now in FL it is illegal but wish it was legal because it is hot and if you gun shows and someone calls police you have a problem if visible. So I am for open carry for those who wish to do so.

@lordofthewoods

2 жыл бұрын

Had a debate with a cop at a Denny's by the Miami airport about 30 years ago. I was sitting at the counter and had mine on my hip in a Harley "Wild West" pouch which VAGUELY resembled an old-style flap holster, except for the fact that the pistol COMPLETELY disappeared into it under a double-snap flap closure. Had to explain to him what "concealed from ordinary sight" meant. And it's the WEAPON that has to be concealed from ordinary sight, not the pouch, holster, purse, or whatever you're carrying it in (think: fanny-pack). I told him you have NO WAY of KNOWING what is in that pouch! There were actually two cops that came in together for dinner; the other one didn't give a crap... he just wanted to eat : )

I open carry on my homestead all the time, because it's mine (videos on my channel if you're into homesteading type content). I likewise have open carried god knows how many times while hunting. The only times I have ever open carried in an urban or other inhabited setting, which I have done many times, I have always carried a second gun, concealed, in case of gun grabs, etc.

Each type of carrying has its own pluses and minuses, you have to evaluate your plans for the day and choose the best option for that day, but no matter what you choose there is no substitute for situational awareness

I have open carried in Colorado because my Virginia permit was not recognized. It was not my preferred method but it was the only method available to me. My experience was positive and even got a thumbs up from a police officer. I can attest that most people won't notice. A middle aged woman came up to me and asked if I would sign an anti-fracking petition and she did not notice the 1911 and two spare magazines on my hip. In general, the only time I open carry is when I am in the field. That long gun is a dead giveaway that I am armed so why bother concealing the pistol. I always carry in a level III retention holster when I do open carry. Not so fast with the "secret weapon" argument. How many people have gotten into a DGU situation because the assailant assumed a person was unarmed because he did not see the weapon? We aren't dealing with rocket scientists. Each method has its risks.

@UncleKennysPlace

2 жыл бұрын

I used to open carry in Ohio, prior to there even being a CCW law. Nobody ever said a thing, they probably assumed I was an LEO as I was, at the time, clean cut and well dressed. As soon as I could carry concealed, I did. Don't like to stick out.

@atriyawadhwani5980

2 жыл бұрын

They noticed, they just don’t care. CO is traditionally very gun friendly

@johnshepherd8687

2 жыл бұрын

@@atriyawadhwani5980 Anti-Fracking zealots are usually anti-gun. She didn't noticed. I have open carried in Northern Virginia where you don't see it very often and nobody noticed.

I was born and raised in an open carry state, now live in one that recently made open carry legal. Massad is absolutely correct, whether carrying open of concealed depends on the time and place. Around home and my local small town where most everyone knows me I often carry open. When I go to larger urban areas I carry concealed for the reasons Massad lists.

Really appreciate your calm, logical and informed discussion of these important matters.

I was open carrying the other day (was concealed, day started off rainy and turned to sun, jacket off) grabbing wine. A cop gets behind me in the checkout line and we start talking 07 Napa and how good the 21 Napa will be after a 10 year hold. I told him to stay safe, he said thanks... we went on our ways.

Good arguments. Me personally I prefer to open carry for political reasons. The more people are exposed to seeing guns the less frightening is. Also on the same note: " if you don't use it you lose it ". I'm talking about 2nd amendment.

I am lucky to be seeing this on 11/13, I prefer Concealed as I am not an LEO, although much of my family is and was , RIP ;

Open carry has helped me. A Kevin was upset at me in a parking lot. Came walking up to me shouting as I was getting out of the truck. Kept getting closer shouting and soon as I closed my door his eyes caught my gun on my hip and he stopped where he was. Stopped yelling and went back to his miserable life. I do see where there are also cases where you want to remain grey.

I can't disagree with anything said here. Mas is THE MAN. I learned a few things here too. I support open carry, but I'd never open carry anywhere that's not a "gun friendly" environment...such as a location for training or whatnot...where everyone there is likely going to be a gun person and not be alarmed by other people carrying guns.

I see and have used the advantages of both. Seeing my open carry in Las Vegas stopped at least 1 robbery attempt. I know cause my wife heard 1 of the 3 dudes say " not them, he's got a gun" before making a bee line away from us. I'm now back in constitutional carry Maine and happy as a lark. My advice, if you open carry, have a hefty retention device.

Great points sir, I spent 22 years in the military and like you I study the folks around me I sometimes open carry depending on the situation, I carry the 1911A1 or the M9 with the Glock 26 as a back up, living in Texas I rarely see any open carry folks, I have my license to carry and also insurance

I'm so glad you didn't bash open carry like most others. I opened carry for several years before getting my ccw, which I still do open carry to this day. I'm on the side of just carry a gun. To be fair, if a criminal wanted to steal your gun or just shoot you on site, he would do it regardless if you had a pistol on your hip or not. Just use your head out there and make it home safe.

@dentoldani3460

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! Here in Iowa, one can conceal or open carry. Myself, I open carry and truly hope I never EVER have to draw on someone!

@thewhiskeycowboy-official

2 жыл бұрын

Correct. But sadly you see so many not think things though, just so they can convince themselves that they are carrying the "best" and "right" way. It's the same type of things we see with Chevy vs Ford or 9mm vs 45. Most of the arguments are at best only partially true (again, at best), and in the end they only effect the person making them. I have never run into the potential horror stories often touted concerning open carry, and I will leave it at that. I support legal and responsible carry.... and none of that (unless not legal in the State) hinges on whether the pistol is open or concealed. We need to stop trying to make divisions among law abiding citizens and those who exercise their Constitutionally protected Rights. Sadly though.... many don't understand that, instead they want to help the anti-gun folks demonize a segment of us, or the gun itself. They really need to stop doing that. It isn't open carry that hurts us, it is THAT that does. Cheers.

I worked with kids who were victims of traumatic circumstances and this attitude toward firearms seems reasonable and compassionate based on my experience. There is no need to appear threatening in public if you live in a country like America, it is a safe place to exist for the most part. As such, concealed carry prevents those who have been victims in the past from being frightened by those who would defend them if the need arose. Do not look down on those who are less capable than you, protect them.

I have no reason to OC, but think it’s cool “out west” like Tx or AZ. Not recommended in liberal areas. I live in an OC state, and when I see it, I look at other people’s reaction. Some featherheads get disturbed at times. I have never seen a hot confrontation. We have a local legend, a guy’s gun was spotted in a walmart, 3 guys followed him into the bathroom beat him up and stole his gun. Just yesterday “Active Self Protection” channel showed a grocery store armed security guard be disarmed by thugs. That’s a good channel I recommend subscribing. Thanks Mass, always happy to see your mug on here, one of my favorite subject matter experts.

I don’t open carry but I also don’t get obsessed with printing. If I am OWB I will just pull my t-shirt over it going into a store or similar. I also live in an open carry state. Unfortunately alot of the opposed picture open carry as that one individual in a cut off shirt, jean shorts, and a velcro holster flopped over the tactical muffin top.

@ManDuderGuy

2 жыл бұрын

.....to be fair, those are almost all of the open carriers that I see. Some crap holster flopping around barely attached to their pocket or something stupid like that.

@24sevvin

2 жыл бұрын

@@ManDuderGuy yep. That does make it even worse especially the perception of what a “Gun” person looks like.

Well. My personal rule is: In a city or town, conceal carry. In the woods or wild areas such as hunting, open carry.

AS always Massad delivers excellent, sounds advice. I personally NEVER open carry, for multiple reasons...but his point at the 6:47 mark is my main reason. If a nutjob walks in intent on killing people, and sees your weapon, you just became his prime target. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Here in Arizona many people do open carry, but I personally don't. And everything Mr. Ayoob says in the absolute truth.

@m4rvinmartian

2 жыл бұрын

The very day I was in Arizona for the first time ever, I saw a guy at the gas station open carrying. I thought... this should be a nice place to move to some day.

@daviddixon591

2 жыл бұрын

@@m4rvinmartian And you are right!

Thanks for your service to humanity! You fade a lot of heat for being pro self-defense! Much respect Mas! (Concealed)

@gowilsoncombat

2 жыл бұрын

No doubt

As usual Massad always makes great sense

Another great insights and advise! You’re the best! Thank you for your work and be safe! 🙏

Took my CCW Class, Mailed it all off the same day, counting the day I Took the class it only took 27 days and $170.00 to get it in my pocket. Gotta Love Florida

you the man thanks for the wisdom means a lot to us younger people 🙏🏻

Thanks for keeping us thinking ! Thoughtful carry is the safest carry !

@gowilsoncombat

2 жыл бұрын

Always!

I was an open carry advocate, but your points have changed my mind.

I've been OCing since 2011. In that time, I've had 3 negative comments. The vast majority have been positive. I don't buy into the "don't OC, it scares people" argument. The days of gun owners taking a back seat, sitting down and shutting up - is over. We either use our rights or we lose them. I agree with most of the rest of Mas' comments. Especially the comment about "being a representative". Big Thumbs Up!

@Nathan-xb4yg

Ай бұрын

💯💯💯🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

extremely well done covering all the issues involved.

I open carry when I’m at work and running errands pertaining to work. I wear a big smile too! Always watch my back no matter what the situation. I’ve never heard a story about someone getting disarmed but feel that 30 is a very, very low number of said incidents.

I Live In Tennessee Son!!! I open when I want and conceal when I feel like it.

I prefer ccw but due to my spare tire, it is very uncomfortable. I open carry to an extent but I wear long T-shirts to help with concealment. My goal is self and family protection not to intimidate anyone.

As always, sage advice. Thank you sir.

@gowilsoncombat

2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome

EXCELLENT!! All spot-on points for this discussion. Thank you for all your service, Mr. Ayoob.

So refreshing to listen to a 2nd amendment advocate who can speak intelligently to both sides of an argument. Not the normal constant “yeah guns bitch!” crazy people.

Wise advice from the legendary man. I really appreciate these kinds of sane, sober videos. Thanks!

@gowilsoncombat

2 жыл бұрын

Any time!

Great presentation. Measured, well balanced, and well presented. Thank you.

@gowilsoncombat

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

What a wise man you are, my Brother! Thank you for your contribution to 'sanity."

Thanks for putting this video out. Great job!

A couple of years ago I did an experiment. I open carried to the office every day for a week. The next Monday I asked the people I work with if they noticed anything different about me the previous week. Exactly one person said that I’d carried a gun on my hip the previous week. So now I still usually carry concealed but if I take off the suit coat while carrying I don’t worry too much about it. I know most people won’t know anyway.

@thewhiskeycowboy-official

2 жыл бұрын

Correct! More people notice and comment about my hat or belt buckle than do my pistol. If you live your life trying to not offend ANYONE, or worried about what EVERYONE might think, you stop living your life as a free person. Simply put most people don't care, or notice the things we might think they do. Like the saying goes, "you would be surprised at how little anyone actually thinks about you". Too many people live in a fantasy.

I do notice, here in Texas it's common practice. I worry about some of our elders I think they could be overtaken by someone who wants to do them harm. But for the most part it makes me feel safer knowing that my neighbors are armed and carrying 👍💯🇺🇸 I sometimes carry on my own property as someone else said. Those 4 legged critters are stealthy 😳

I haven’t found an IWB holster that’s comfortable, but I conceal with an outer garment.

@nmr6988

2 жыл бұрын

Ditto.

I did not realize Wilson Combat was in Berryville, AR. Greetings from Fayetteville, home of the Razorbacks!!

@gowilsoncombat

2 жыл бұрын

WPS

Thank you Mas for your straightforward eloquent and easy to understand message about open carry versus concealed. We will share your message. It is disturbing to see certain political candidates lately try to win elections by suddenly stumping for open carry, in an attempt to steal their more worthy opponents’ well earned thunder, the Georgian candidates who truly support our second amendment rights.

My opinion is this.. it depends on the environment that your going to be in. My self I carry concealed in a holster rig , when shopping ,dining. But most places I go to here( I live in Texas) locally never carry a gun, my wife does and she carries her in a purse. We don't have trouble in the country now being said when we go into Blue Cities we are locked and cocked.open carry when I'm working on the ranch at times. Open carry for a novice does not know how easy it is for a person following you are in a check out can grab it out of your holster pretty quick.. not good. That's my take.Concealed carry in these environments. THANKS

@sisleymichael

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. In Texas, live on a ranch. Same for me. At the ranch or going to town to get feed or supplies, I open carry. If we go to San Antonio, conceal carry. I try to adapt to my surroundings.

@jaydunbar7538

2 жыл бұрын

Yes if your open carrying a proper holster is a must imo, definitely want retention above a friction fit.

@cowboywoodard2569

2 жыл бұрын

@@sisleymichael we are located in Flationa area, shop in Lagrange and Badtrop, when we go to Austin or San Antonio you bet I'm ready lol

Really appreciate what you do

Thank you for sharing your insights, experiences, and wisdoms.

"We do not have a right to alarm the public" I suspect that will be the most controversial part of this video but it needed to be said. Even if that panic is objectively unreasonable, open carriers do nobody any favors by causing a panic when they trot around their AR15s in their local walmart.

@zack9912000

2 жыл бұрын

A person can not be charged for a crime of causing a panic when they have the legal right to open carry. PD get sued every single year trying to pull that shit.

@matthewblumenthal804

2 жыл бұрын

@@zack9912000 And your point? We're not talking about legal consequences. We're talking about social and societal. Scaring people does nothing to advance the cause of 2nd amendment support.

@yoselinflores2984

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with carrying an 1851 colt openly.

@Freeeeeeeedoooooooom

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewblumenthal804 You can not live your life being concerned about everybody's fears...it is simply unrealistic. If I run up to the corner store or gas station with a gun on my hip, I'm not creating a panic or trying to cause fear in anybody...I'm living my life. The extreme example of someone going to Walmart with an AR slung across their back is not a reasonable example. Sure some "advocates" do it. It doesn't bother me. I don't do such things but, it isn't illegal where I live. How often do you or others routinely break traffic laws ? Speeding, not coming to a complete stop, following too closely, not signaling a lane change. Nobody seems concerned about me as a truck driver when, any number of routinely broken traffic laws can result in death. Why are the vast majority of citizens not concerned about me ? I am simply responsible for removing my self from the situation. Do you see what I'm getting at ? Driving is only a privilege, not a constitutionally enumerated right.

@Brett235

2 жыл бұрын

@@zack9912000 no but why would you want to make a spectacle of yourself? I don't want to draw any unnecessary attention to me or my wife when we are out together, usually on a date night. Even if I am by myself at the farm store getting chicken feed or tractor parts, I conceal carry. If no one sees it then no one can complain.

Well spoken Sir! Many years ago, about 1985 if memory serves, a man walked into a Dunkin Donuts in Doraville, GA with the intent of killing his wife, a waitress there, he did exactly that. At the other end of the counter a Fireman was having a cup, saw the altercation and stood up, he wasn’t armed, but was in uniform and was wearing his badge, he was perceived as a threat, shot, and killed by the assailant. I’ve always thought that if the assailant sees a firearm, he will attack them first, once again as the perceived threat. Them NOT thinking you are a threat may very well save your life. The assailant may shoot you anyway, but if he sees a firearm you can almost guarantee you will be the first target.

@Talishar

2 жыл бұрын

You're making too many assumptions in order to confirm your own bias. The man was shot because he forcefully interjected himself into the situation. That much is fact. It's a large assumption that it was because he had a uniform and a badge on. On even a cursory analysis, your argument falls on its face. The suspect went into the facility to murder his wife but didn't notice a uniformed first responder (who happened to be unarmed) was sitting there until they jumped up and interjected themselves. You then made the assumption that the fireman was shot because of his uniform and the thought that he may have been armed. By your own detail of the story though, it appears the suspect went into the building and didn't even notice the first responder sitting there at all and probably didn't care. This means that it could have been a random open carrying citizen there and he still wouldn't have cared but that open carrier probably would have interjected potentially with a shot instead of harsh words before finally being acknowledged.

@dannyfowler7055

2 жыл бұрын

@@Talishar Not that it matters, but I disagree. He shot him because the Fireman was a perceived threat.

@Talishar

2 жыл бұрын

@@dannyfowler7055 By your own statement, the shooter didn't even recognize or know that the fireman existed or was there. He didn't shoot said fireman until the fireman stood up and presented himself. Before this, the shooter was completely oblivious to the fireman and his uniform. The fireman became an obstacle and a direct witness to the murder and that's probably why he shot him. It's a far more logical assumption to make than the guy panicked when seeing a badge as an actual police officer probably would have immediately shot the man instead of just yelling at him. In this case, the open carrier would also have been completely overlooked as this guy initially missed an entire uniformed person sitting there or didn't care. This isn't a story of the evils of open carry, but of bad luck/misfortune. The perceived threat was of someone getting in his way and also being a witness to the crime, not necessarily being someone in uniform who strangely didn't ventilate him the moment he shot the waitress or attempted to shoot the waitress. If some other random guy were to also have interjected there without the uniform, they would have most likely met the same fate. The man was on a mission to kill someone else in public. He didn't care that there'd potentially be law enforcement, just that he had a goal and if he's willing to brutally murder his wife in a restaurant, he's going to probably not have any scruples getting rid of whoever stands in his way.

@dalepres1

5 ай бұрын

What your story completely misses is that anyone with a gun might have stopped the shooter, whether they were open carrying or concealed carrying.

Always good advice

Good wisdom! Thank you again.

In my state you're only allowed to conceal carry. There was an incident several years ago when a guy and his son went into a department store to buy a computer. When the dad bent over to pick up a computer out of the display bundle on the floor his shirt tail came up and a customer saw the hand grip of his gun in a in the waistband holster. the customer went to the managers office and shortly after the guy was surrounded by security people. They took him to the front office and the Karen manager had called the police. When the police arrived she wanted him arrested. But the guy showed the police his concealed weapons license and it turned out he was perfectly legal. The police told the manager they could do nothing about it because he was legal. The manager went berserk and the police told her that if they do not want concealed carry in their store they had to put signs up out front stating that. Some time later there were signs out in front of that department store no firearms allowed. Other businesses in that area put up the same signs. So this is what you're up against. Anti-gun liberalism has gone rampant in this country

If the bad guy has any tactical thinking ability, he will identify obvious threats to eliminate first. Open carry, to me, identifies you as a primary threat to the bad guy. I guess that is the Marine in me. Edit: I am very interested in what Massad has to say on the topic.

@charlesward8196

2 жыл бұрын

My Marine friend’s philosophy is to “Keep a low Profile.” A Wilderness Tactical Systems “Safepacker” under a fleece or puffy vest is perfect urban camouflage. Criminals will “case” a location before committing overt acts of aggression. If they see someone open carrying, they will target that person first to eliminate “push-back” when they begin offensive operations. An individual citizen simply does not have the resources to assess everyone within a visual radius all of the time. You will eventually start to relax your surveillance because you cannot be on full alert 24/7, and you have to have your back to someone. I think that a better strategy is to keep a low profile, avoid “tacti-cool” clothing that will put you on the bad guy’s radar, stay near the perimeter of public spaces with a path to an exit and a view of the entrance so that you can observe people entering your space. My first priority if something starts to go wrong will be to move myself and my loved ones to a position of cover or concealment, assess the situation, and escape as expeditiously as possible. A couple of decades ago the family was getting lunch on a road trip at Mickey-D’s in Mohave, CA when a handful of SoCal gang members walked in. I was carrying in my fanny-pack at the time, and immediately told the wife, “Grab the kids, and the food, we are leaving NOW! and we were out the opposite door in 15 seconds. I consider fighting a lower priority than escaping based on the likelihood of the bad guy having one, or more, accomplices, perhaps already in strategic locations. I assume that I will be outnumbered and at a serious tactical disadvantage. If I am alone, and not immediately responsible for family members, I may choose to engage a single adversary from cover, but my primary tactic will be to move to cover, draw, assess, and then execute an escape,. I may choose to engage if circumstances dictate but that is not the first or even the second priority. With 8+1 and 1 spare mag, I am not equipped for for a battle. I want any bad guy’s first indication that I have a firearm is to take a center mass hit from me shooting from cover. The bad guys come to the scene expecting trouble. If you were expecting trouble, you would not go there. Unless, as they say, you bring a long gun, and lots of friends with long guns. Remember, if you are sufficiently “Strategic,” you won’t have to be “Tactical.”

@tommygatch

2 жыл бұрын

@@xtreme4stringbass different scenario. Marines DO use element of surprise. Ever hear of ambushes, camouflage, snipers wear ghillie suits. As an infantryman we are taught cover and concealment to close on an enemy position. So, wanna try being a smart ass again?

@tommygatch

2 жыл бұрын

I'd also like to add, I am not there to be a deterrent to a criminal. I carry for my family's protection.

@Brett235

2 жыл бұрын

This is very true, especially if you surprise a criminal in the process of a crime. Say you are going in to your favorite convenience store to grab a drink and as soon as you walk in the door the criminal sees that you have a gun on your hip, what he or she going to do? Ask you politely to give them your gun... lol? No, they're probably going to start shooting and that's how innocent people get shot and how situations escalate.

@basketofdeplorables4253

2 жыл бұрын

You are completely correct. If you are the only one carrying open, the bad guy is most likely pull his concealed and shoot you first. On the other hand, if the bad guy walks in and sees several people open carrying most likely he will just walk away and the crime he was going to commit would never happen. In the long run, if many open carried, violent crime would decrease drastically, in my opinion. I prefer to conceal with open carry also being a legal option. I also don’t feel the permitting process is necessary because if you can legally possess the gun the permit is just redundant. And obviously criminals aren’t getting permits anyway.

Excelent video and topic.

Thanks for the information very well explained.

The only time I open carry is when I'm roaming in the woods. There are so many drawbacks to open carry that I don't consider it prudent. From potential weapons snatches to losing the tactical element of surprise, to being forced into actions you might not if your gun was concealed, I just don't see it as something I want to do.

@robinstewart6510

2 жыл бұрын

Millions openly carry firearms. The odds of that (open-carried gun snatched) happening are extremely low. A few isolated incidents (lightning striking) here or there don't change that reality.

@JHargis68

2 жыл бұрын

@@robinstewart6510 To each his own. I'm not comfortable with it. The odds of a snatch if I'm carrying concealed are almost non existent.

@robinstewart6510

2 жыл бұрын

@@JHargis68 .. No, they'll just lunge to grab the gun as you reach to pull it out - something equally possible. You can't make the argument against one without making the same argument against the other. Both are equally rare, but equally possible. Even you said "ALMOST non-existent."

@JHargis68

2 жыл бұрын

@@robinstewart6510 If you wish to open carry, you may do so. I do not.

@UncleKennysPlace

2 жыл бұрын

@@robinstewart6510 Millions? In any given _year,_ I may see one or two.

People just do not consider RURAL settings, and NATURE settings when coming down hard against open carry. We all tend to have a very myopic view of things. Which is unfortunate.

@robertlavan222

2 жыл бұрын

Do you know anyone who conceals in a nature setting? Maybe they exist…I don’t know… When you open carry, you have the ability to carry bigger guns, carry more of them, and carry them comfortably. Don’t know of anyone who is concerned about the concealment trade-off in a nature setting. Predators tend to surprise you and if you need to clear garment or open your bag, then you’re already toast… Not sure if it’s worthy of comparison for the point of this video. This is about protection from other people, not animals or targets…

Like you said, depends on the situation, however to dispel panic when open carry, to wear w security badge. As for criminals, they can be random. Don’t make yourself a target and be aware of your situation.

Thank you. Always appreciate your measured, well reasoned response.

People who open carry have been shot by criminals intent upon taking their weapon. It can make you more of a target, rather than less.

@zahktuthalxalyrion6364

Жыл бұрын

And just as many, if not more, criminals have said "Nah, not here." and left upon seeing an open carried pistol. It can serve as a deterrent. It really just depends on who sees it.

@Mr_Snarky

Жыл бұрын

@@zahktuthalxalyrion6364 Possibly, but we have video evidence of people having their openly carried handgun snatched. I haven't seen any evidence of what you suggest.

@zahktuthalxalyrion6364

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr_Snarky I've seen just as many videos of concealed being snatched too. If you're an idiot and don't use level 2 or higher retention holsters for an open carry, it can get snatched. As for what I suggest, that's because the news quite literally will never report that. Why? Because then they can't push their own agendas. Information Control is everything.

You do you. Be trained, be polite and be an armed professional. Enjoy and suffer the choices

Thanks Massad, your analysis and diplomacy are always top notch!

I carry both open and concealed depending on where I'm going and what I'm doing. On the whole I prefer open carry primarily because I carry full sized handguns which are not very comfortable to conceal IWB. One way I have found of addressing this problem is to carry a full sized 1911 or similar sized pistol in a shoulder holster with a jacket over it. In this way it's comfortable and concealed by the jacket to avoid alarming anyone. Want to switch to open carry? Take off the jacket and let the gun show.