I Asked Massad Ayoob About Modified Triggers
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Massad's voice sounds like he should be singing for the Oak Ridge Boys.
@CIRCLEDARK
3 жыл бұрын
He probably smells like an ashtray.
@fasnuf
3 жыл бұрын
NASCAR
@travistucker7317
3 жыл бұрын
Daddy sang bass...
@brandonmccormick1571
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@patrichardmvp
3 жыл бұрын
Years of chain-smoking will do that to you.
Been reading Massad's articles for forty years. He is the standard.
@davidschaadt5929
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I remember reading his articles from back in the early eighties.he gives excellent real world, practical advice.
@oldcop18
3 жыл бұрын
Agree. I met him in the Fall of 2016 when he interviewed me for an article he was writing for American Handgunner.
@J_Braz_
2 жыл бұрын
He really is. He's the guy Hickok45 listens to when he wants to learn something.
@gmcjetpilot
2 жыл бұрын
He is pretty consistent...
@alphaomega5721
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
Even Chuck Norris recommends listening to Mas.
A lot of logic and wisdom here.
@tomrkba4685
3 жыл бұрын
...5...4...3...2...1... Half the gun community will discount this and do what they’re going to do.......
@petesheppard1709
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I’ve been following Mas since the late ‘80s. There are many outstanding trainers, but none that go into the legal aspects of self defense like he does.
@Jane.Doe.
3 жыл бұрын
@@petesheppard1709 Yes, I know right? He's just such an all around *brilliant* man while having that down to earth, make you comfortable, genuine, never arrogant, just that really kind way that he has. This might sound silly but, if I'm feeling stressed or anxious.. I'll watch a Massad Ayoob video and it just calms me right down! 🧘♀️ Take care -
@anthonylewis9256
3 жыл бұрын
Your right the comment section is full of wise people
When Massad speaks, everybody listens (at least they should).
@bps20
3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean we understand him. What's he saying aroun 14:30 ? I'm trying to find the case but the name is unclear. I get that it probably isn't important to read and will only reinforce his statement of not painting skills on firearms. But I want to read it.
@762x69
3 жыл бұрын
arizona vs brailsford Shooting of Daniel Shaver
@samo8204
3 жыл бұрын
I never will understand why the prosecutor just "Wants to win" Vs. seeking justice.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
3 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@TR5T
2 жыл бұрын
@@samo8204 PRIDE, EGO, BRAGGING RIGHTS.
Massad Ayoob is so amazing at explaining and expressing concepts in easy to understand ways. Einstein once said “If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough”. Ayoob, is the Einstein of self-defense. I would love to take a class by him.
@robertalonzo5725
3 жыл бұрын
Totally worth the time and money! We did the MAG 40. Best time and money spent
@PaintballBo
Жыл бұрын
You are officially an Ayoobian
True words of wisdom. The word "attorney" comes from the French words, "attornment and tourner" which mean to "turn or twist." Know your enemy.
@alwong604
3 жыл бұрын
Attorneys are tools. They can help and/or harm you. Get the best tool you can afford.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
3 жыл бұрын
Your comment is why I read the comments, interesting.
@roryross3878
3 жыл бұрын
@Black Pill Just prosecutors.
@dom4020
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know...French is my first language and attornement isn't a word🤔
@bluetv6386
3 жыл бұрын
@@dom4020 tu lis Villon dans le texte et parles le vieux français couramment?
Mas speaks with the calm authority of someone who has spent decades honing his opinions. The interviewer deserves some respect for being gracious enough to allow Mas to hold the stage. Good team work, guys. I could see countless additional videos of Mas offering real world gems of advice.
@michaelmcgee335
Жыл бұрын
Except the man in the red shirt can’t be more wrong. There is a reason “you have a right to remain silent” is in place.
@googoo-gjoob
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmcgee335 , after all, he only has 43+ years as an expert witness.
@wilcoxtactical3716
Жыл бұрын
John Korea . Active Self Protection
Massad’s voice is a defensive weapon in and of itself!!!
This is the first time I’ve heard Mr Ayoob raise his voice
@AusyG
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like if he were to raise his voice in anger I'd feel very scared
"Most of you listening to this [have probably been lulled into a deep sleep]" joking aside, a lot of good info. Massad is a real deal OG.
@ASPextra
3 жыл бұрын
His voice is so deep!
MAS: "I wrote an article for Combat Handguns magazine back in the 80's where I interviewed..." ME: "Holy crap, I remember reading that back when it first came out!" Damn, I feel old...
@ASPextra
3 жыл бұрын
The old age bus comes outta nowhere...
@victormudrack3406
3 жыл бұрын
Dale, I am RIGHT there with you, man. Read all of Mas' stuff.
@getoffmylawn8986
3 жыл бұрын
You too, huh?
@jpoeng
3 жыл бұрын
😆Right?? Lol Mas has literally helped shape now 2 generations of responsible gun carriers. Conversely, when I hear someone rant about “Mas is full of bs...” that pretty much tells me all I need to know about *their* opinion... 🤣
@1Knightwolf
3 жыл бұрын
@@ASPextra And sometimes it backs up.... just to make sure it did a good enough job.
Massad needs his own channel, he would have a tremendous following.
@Snubrevolver
3 жыл бұрын
I would follow the notifications religiously
@analogken
3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@glennrishton5679
3 жыл бұрын
He does some excellent videos on the Wilson Combat channel.
@slypperyfox
2 жыл бұрын
@@glennrishton5679 Yes he does but I wish he would get out from under Bill Wilson. Wilson cannot build affordable 1911s and he degraded it with 9mm.
@glennrishton5679
2 жыл бұрын
@@slypperyfox I dont mind that Wilson 1911s are more than I'm willing to pay. I dont see that as a fault. To me he builds a 1911 where the other manufacturers such as the ones I have make 1911s. Craftsmanship vs production. I agree with you on the 9mm. I did get a Wilson Sig P320 and love it. Was shooting it today in fact.
When i see people with the punisher skull on their pistol... 🤦♂️
@Namedeeznuts
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah not the pistol but the holster if you’re into it !
@perrythomas6971
3 жыл бұрын
Seems like something the Yankee Marshal would do!😏
@adamr9720
3 жыл бұрын
What about "Smile and wait for the flash" on the fore end of your rifle? I've seen that.
@garynelson9538
3 жыл бұрын
obliviox you mean I shouldn’t carry my Punisher 1911 with the Extra-Hair Trigger loaded with my Diablo Super Spatter-666 Exploding Guaranteed to kill you & yo mamma ammo?? Damn, what this country coming too??
@da.reverend
3 жыл бұрын
@@garynelson9538 LOL. :-)
Dude.... best.... video.... YET! No John I’m being serious, this video just changed my ENTIRE outlook on triggers. I’m making sure all my triggers break at 4lbs AT LEAST from now on. Never once has it been how “smooth” the trigger was... it’s always been how “light” the trigger was.... words of wisdom. PLEASE John, more videos like this with legal experts! Keep killin’ it!! Mas is amazing!
Good advise. I need to see my carry gun not just through my eyes, but also through the potential eyes of 12 jurors selected specifically for their inexperience with guns.
The legendary Massad Ayoob ... my teacher 😃👍👌 Thank you, John
@livefreeordie5033
3 жыл бұрын
@Green Giant Hahaha very funny.
This came up at my trial after an on duty shooting. The prosecutor alleged that I was a "loose cannon" who modified my glock trigger so I could shoot faster. Thankfully I still had the factory box that has the label showing I bought it from glock with a 4.5 lb pull. Same prosecutor alleged I was militant because I wore a BDU style uniform instead of class C's. Of course it didn't matter that I was a K9 handler and constantly running after the dog and suspects shredded my class C's. Liberals will say or do anything to make you look bad. Thankfully I was acquitted and returned to duty but later left law enforcement after the bitter taste wouldn't wash out.
@glennrishton5679
2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old comment of yours but I wanted to add some thoughts. I am skeptical of prosecutes in general so often they are either elected officials or their boss is. Guilty verdicts are how they keep score and a high score looks good come election time. Next as you experienced are the complete firearms idiots typified by the two dolts in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, I dont give a damn how many people certified that AR was not loaded still do not point a gun at anyone with your finger on the trigger. I know of no better system than a trial but a trial is not to me a search for truth and or justice. It is a contest between lawyers of who can evoke the strongest emotions in a jury. Facts and common sense be dammed. Example is you wearing BDUs. Things like the BDUs can be explained but a misleading idea could be planted in the jurors minds.
@brianking9215
2 жыл бұрын
@@glennrishton5679 yes, sadly most of the time they don't look at people as PEOPLE only wins and losses
@nohero178
2 жыл бұрын
You're obviously still bitter. I hope you find peace.
@shawnnance3670
2 жыл бұрын
@@nohero178theres always a smart ass. It was 20 years ago, I'm good...
@OnceShy_TwiceBitten
Жыл бұрын
@@shawnnance3670Yeah, the irony is HE'S Bitter lmao. On something, so he's so jaded he projects it lmao.
This has solidified that I should just train more with my stock trigger. Thanks to you both!
Mas needs to be a voice over actor he is the morgan freeman of the gun world
I read this man's books in the 1980's and he was my fave instructor-from-afar. I'm so glad to see him as wise and articulate as ever, and now I know he also has the "voice of power". This man is sharp and experienced, so listen up.
John, you’ve been killing it with the content lately ! Keep it up brother
Could listen to this guy all day. Great cast. Carries a Berretta. Nice.
I love that this is clearly filmed in a church. Fantastic sermon. Mas is a legend. John is a future legend.
Mr Ayoob is the gold standard in these things. Listen , heed.
Thank you John for this great data and knowledge. His actual court room experience is good as gold.
Massad Ayoob has been one of my practical shooting heroes for quite a while. ASP Rocks for bringing him on.
Mr. Ayoob pretty much confirmed everything I've been telling students for years. One thing I also tell them is to ditch things like stickers or signs that have "cute" little quotes on them. I tell them to picture the jury as though they're a bunch of rabid anti-gunners, and it was their kid you shot. Cause the last thing you need is the DA showing them pictures of you wearing a shirt that says "When In Doubt, Shoot Em Again".
@gordongekko83
3 жыл бұрын
@@papimaximus95 you really don't understand that there are civil and criminal proceedings. The standard of proof in a civil proceeding is lower than criminal court and you can get hammered for negligence. If they can paint you out to be some "badass" who can't wait to shoot someone and runs around with t-shirts and decals advertising as such, then good luck taking your chances with your assets on the line. Ayoob is giving solid advice. It also goes to state of mind even in a criminal case if lawyers want to paint you as someone who can't wait to shoot someone to argue your use of force was not lawful.
@platty9237
3 жыл бұрын
@Papi Maximus it’s about the perception the jurors have of you and not the technicality of the law as written. People can be emotionally manipulated with a narrative, and that’s what this is all about. It shouldn’t affect the trial facts and whatnot, but it does to a degree.
@kennethfharkin
3 жыл бұрын
Stickers, shirts, online posts. Unless you are comfortable with it being shown in a court room don't put it out there. Tangentially related, enjoy this clip from John Mulaney on your past coming back to haunt you in court. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJ-Hs81xaMiadLA.html The part in question only goes to 1:42 but it is certainly entertaining.
@RealHankShill
3 жыл бұрын
@@papimaximus95 Its not about the justification of the use of force, its about the jury's perception of you. You cant live in some fantasy world where the only thing that matters is right and wrong. Thats not the world we live in. How the jury perceives you is 100% the difference between life in jail and free on the streets.
@everythingisoverrated3942
2 жыл бұрын
@@papimaximus95 just admit you're wrong
What a fantastic interview! Mass explains it so very well. Thanks John and Mass!
Good info John, thank you both for the interview.
Love hearing from Massad. Thank you for making this video.
John it’s great to hear this from a Legend. Excellent vid and important info.
I had heard that rumor about Ayoob and the modified trigger thing (as well as the hand loaded ammo thing) decades ago. Glad to have it clarified - much appreciated.
Great info. Thanks to you both for sharing this with your followers.
Always good content when Mas is speaking. I view him as the ultimate firearm Guru.
My personal favorite authority. I love his old videos from the 80s. Great interview.
Excellent presentation John. Keep up the good work.
My 7 pound MP Shield trigger was unusable. I put a 4 pound Apex on it. Now i can shoot it more accurately. THE END.
@doddgarger6806
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely unusable I dumped mine for a Taurus much much better
@tonyovermyer5368
3 жыл бұрын
I find the 6 lb trigger on my Walther PPS to be just fine. I havent shot a shield 9mm in quite some time but I dont remember the factory trigger being that bad. I definitely agree with Mas that it's the smoothness, not the weight that makes a good trigger.
@jeffholm3503
3 жыл бұрын
I did exactly that with my Shield. My G19 has a 4.5# Ghost connector. My EDC is a P365 with a stock trigger. Trigger pull is between 4.5 and 5 lbs and all 3 are smooth with similar trigger pulls. Consistency within established limits is my goal.
@Snubrevolver
3 жыл бұрын
Man y'all are spoiled. Revolvers run 13 pounds on double action and they shoot just fine.
@TheWilferch
3 жыл бұрын
You missed the point.....not THE END of the story as seen by a jury.....YOU MODIDIFIED IT TO AN UNSAFE LEVEL ( they will say....and be hard to defend to a "non-gun" group of people)
It's refreshing to hear a voice of both experience and knowledge.
Excellent segment, thanks to you both! 🤠
This channel is under appreciated given the consistent string of top experts providing on point advice and demonstrations.
@jackomalley3687
Жыл бұрын
My glock 19x is stock except I did install the OverWatch precision trigger flat face that is and the trigger pull weight is 4.5 lb. Is that acceptable?
That guy is the coolest man ever. Thanks for the time with a legend John.
Loved this. Very useful information.
Great!!! Knowledge is power. Thank you for sharing that!!!!!
Great vid and great points from a great expert
I could listen to Massad all day long. Such a wealth of knowledge.
Excellent interview.
Great information.
Super good information as always. thanks John keep up the good work, and stay healthy, from your fellow Phoenician.
as always a wealth of knowledge Massad!
ASP... this is your best type of content. Great job.
Massad is the real deal. Always enjoy listening and learning from him.
Great info and discussion. Thank you
That was most excellent!!! Thanks!
Great information, excellent video!
Awesome advice from a true expert! Absolutely love the video and lecture from an amazing person.
@ASPextra
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Also, don't use a "Shake Weight." They will say you made your hands stronger so the trigger will be lighter. It might go off in your hand! :)
@sheepdogoutdoors7006
3 жыл бұрын
The smiley face isnt enough for alot yo know this is a joke. God help them😂
@vpiRY
3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha😂😆😂😆
This is incredibly helpful, Masaad obviously studied laws and it’s incredibly helpful to know. Well done
All of my carry Glocks have modified triggers using Glock parts. My answer to an attorney would be, "So I can shoot more accurately without endangering innocent bystanders".
@payleryder45
3 жыл бұрын
To play devil's advocate, your defense attorney would in all likelihood strongly advise you against testifying, so you won't get to give that testimony. You're probably better off with genuine OEM Glock parts though.
@bobburnitt5389
3 жыл бұрын
@@payleryder45 You are correct, just because one comes up with a "CUTE ANSWER" one are not going to rule the situation. Cute remarks make the witenss or accused appear ARROGANT, they are looking for ARROGANT. BB
@RealHankShill
3 жыл бұрын
"So Mr. D, it is your testament that you modify your guns to make it easier to shoot people, is that correct? On an average day, how many times do you think about needing to shoot people? Do you have plans or contingencies developed in your mind for these shootings you plan? Ladies and Gentleman of the jury, this man is clearly actively looking for any situation that might possibly justify his murderous blood lust. What might set him off next time?" Whenever you get the idea that you are more clever than the attorney who is trying to throw you in jail for the rest of your life, remember, you only have to make one mistake, say one wrong thing, or have one thing you said twisted into something else, and you lose. It doesnt matter if he loses, only if you do.
Good info Massad & ASP
Thank you for sharing your insights.
Good stuff.
Outstanding advice!
Thank you
This man is my hero, thank you!
Great info
Great great info from the legend himself!!! Thank you for this. I have ofteb wondered about this!
I CAN NOT believe you got to talk to Massad Ayoob! Absolutely amazing video John! 👍👍
Very good info.......thank you
Maasad is so good and so well thought out about these legal subjects. Great stuff. Just found this and I subscribed. ❤
Been following your channel for almost a decade just wanted to say agin God bless brother! You also personally responded to me regarding questions I had about a good vp9 holster which has been my edc carry for several years. Thanks for all you do John. Praise Jesus for ppl like you, my support always!
@ASPextra
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
This is an excellent subject . I'm going to contact Berretta to find out if putting a " D " spring in my 92FS drops it below the manu minimum specs . Thanks guys !
@gunfisher4661
3 жыл бұрын
On mine it only eased it up very slightly nothing to brag about. It certainly won`t be considered a trigger job on a 92FS.
@fptranger1076
3 жыл бұрын
Also the conversion of the safety to de-cocker only “G.”
@Snubrevolver
3 жыл бұрын
Be careful with the D spring. I ended up having a serious problem with light strikes. I completely bombed a competitive shooting match as a result. The amount of reduced trigger weight is minor. I wouldn't be concerned at all about deviating too far from the original specs.
Very informative video. Thanks, John... from the BUCKEYE state!
Great advice.
This is the first I’ve heard this info. Great info! 👍
Thanks!
Excellent video, John!
@ASPextra
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
Some more great information.
I love Massad. Everytime I listen to him I learn something new. I love how he gives legal arguments like he is in the court room. My question or statement is a standard Glock advertised trigger is 5.5lbs which in reality when tested is about 6.5lbs. I have a 4.5lbs drop in trigger bar and a titanium safety plunger which does not affect the trigger pull weight but the smoothness of the trigger pull. I believe my personal gun pulls at least 5lbs or just above which nearly everyone out there would still consider safe. My point I am making is that the advertised trigger weight is normally is little lighter than the actual pull weight since gun mfr's do not want to be sued. In my personal opinion if your actual trigger pull weight is within 1/2lbs of advertised trigger weight then you should be fine. Just make sure to follow common gun safety rules including don't place your finger inside the trigger guard unless you are going to shoot. Also make sure to get several days worth of extra training including things like deesculation, medical, force on force with evidence of course completion. I personally was surprised when doing force on force and shoot/don't shoot exercises how easily it was just to react and shoot without thinking when already stressed when someone unexpectedly jumps out of a doorway less than arms length in front of you waving their arms screaming for help. How you think you would act and how you actually act are not the same.
@miker1721
3 жыл бұрын
Don't modify the Glock trigger, even if they are Glock factory parts from another gun. Reference court case SANTIBANES VS. TOMBALL(HOUSTON), 2006. americanhandgunner.com/the-ayoob-files/unintended-shot-the-santibanes-incident/
@Snubrevolver
3 жыл бұрын
@@miker1721 Fantastic link, thanks for sharing.
Your best video John. Thumbs up brother.
@ASPextra
6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Put more than 1 bullet in the bad guy. It's hard to argue negligent discharge when there are 3 bullets high center in 4in group
@gblargg
3 жыл бұрын
Then they use your excessive shots fired against you.
@randolphtiangco6239
3 жыл бұрын
@@gblargg 3 shots i hardly excessive.
@Jae678
3 жыл бұрын
Damn right. Never pull the trigger unless you're justified to kill your intended target, and you'll be fine. If you're justified to kill, there is no such thing as excessive.
Lots of great stuff in there.
Massad is the expert in this area. Listen well! Thanks for sharing!
Outstanding
I have 2 hi power pistols and both had the magazine disconnects removed when I got them. I don’t carry them but Intake them to the range a few times per year. They have 4.5-5 pound triggers.
Love Mas's videos!!
Great video...Slow is smooth and smooth is fast
Thank you sir, may I have some more??? 😁 Great video! Thank you John and Massad! Keep yourselves safe! Randy
Awesome video John👍
Massed, A Man Of Much Wisdom..!
I'm curious what the stance would be in making a change to a part common in newer models of a handgun series, such as throwing a D spring in a legacy model of Beretta, since it is factory in most of their newest offerings. It doesn't disable safeties and it doesn't drop the trigger weight below any thresholds, but it does make the trigger lighter
Exactly why I love Walther's PPQ / PDP with the manufacturers flat metal trigger installed and not the competition trigger springs keeping the factory duty trigger pull weight.
What a welcome surprise John!
That is a pot of GOLD for information! Thank you!
I have always respected Mas.
Sht, my unit commemorative gun has its motto on the side: “strike to kill”... I guess I will carry something else.
@TR5T
2 жыл бұрын
Have it engraved "It squirts, heavy"
Thank very much for putting us straight. And glad I didn't remove the safety on my M&P 40c..the only gun I own with one.. Luckily I practice sweeping it off and on when I carry, it's a summer carry mostly. But good information 👍
Perfect logic for the use of a brace on the AR pistol 💁🏻♀️
This might be the most relevant video your subscribers ever watch. Thank you, and thank Massad Ayoob.
Dudes a legend!