How would this work in a standard school setting? As an example, how would students teach a chemistry professor about chemistry in a chemistry class?

@themarxistproject

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's good to keep in mind that the primary focus of critical pedagogy for Freire is the development of conscientização, which as we can recall refers specifically to understanding social, political, and economic contradictions. I also think Freire's target learning demographic was older children and adults. That being said, there are certainly places in the classroom where libertarian education can come in at an early age (again, most likely in the social studies).

@lucassalgado9167

3 жыл бұрын

in such a scenario, the professor would teach the students the basic principles and fundamentals of the material, trying his/her best to involve them in the building of concepts while also encouraging them to find not only the aswers to exercises but also to formulate new questions. All of this would also be combined to the contextualization of chemistry in society, abording not only its methods and results, but its role in development and life and its uses, for exemple.

@florasplace3404

3 жыл бұрын

As someone who has taught chemistry, one of the ways you can avoid using the banking model is by drawing from student experience in classroom discussions and guiding students through scientific practices to try to understand real world puzzling phenomena. If you want to learn more you can check out the website: ambitiousscienceteaching.org/ They have a bunch of videos of teachers trying to enact more equitable teaching practices in science classrooms that I found really insightful

@deanc9453

3 жыл бұрын

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@deanc9453

3 жыл бұрын

@@florasplace3404 +

I love this series! This video reminds me of the mass line. The way to learn from the masses and teach them simultaneously.

@themarxistproject

3 жыл бұрын

I believe Freire did draw some inspiration from Maoist practice!

@papichulo4171

3 жыл бұрын

@@themarxistproject Interesting, I'm pretty sure China during the cultural revolution tried systems similar to the libertarian education concept as well.

@comontista3124

3 жыл бұрын

For me it reminds Gramsci's Cultural Hegemony as a way to fight capitalist sovrastructure.

I’m a Brazilian. I never saw any Brazilian sociologist/philosophy/etc being taught on a KZread video. That’s the first time. And I’m so excited about it! I don’t know how to express my happiness of seeing a Brazilian like Paulo Freire on this video! And I, as a Brazilian who loves his country, recommend to everyone Theotonio do Santos, Vania Bambirra and Ruy Mauro Marini. They wrote about the Marxist theory of dependence. It’s theory well studied here in Latin America by our Marxists students. Greetings from Brazil and thank you for doing a video about Paulo Freire!

@sad-qy7jz

3 жыл бұрын

As an American social worker and socialist it’s bittersweet to read this. It breaks my heart and enraged me how my state and other American oligarchs have manipulated and influenced the way the rest of the world views other countries and cultures, especially South America. I am so engraved and disgusted to be from a country that has shut down quite violently any effort in South America and East Asia to organize and transition to socialism and true democracy. Even today, our media paints inaccurate pictures and withholds knowledge about South American nations. I had a professor during my bachelors degree who was South American and taught a clsss cslled “drugs and the America’s” that was about how North America created the war on drugs and oppressed and disturbed South America snd mexico throughout history. He was the first professor to truly introduce me to theories and philosophies including this one in the video and others from South America. I wish I could say I loved my country like you do, but I think Brazil is a beautiful, important, and amazing place and I will refer my friends who think like me to this video and any other theorists you recommend. Just know that i would love to learn more and be closer to the second half of america but despite all the “freedom” US boasts, we cannot celebrate and learn about anything that takes the spotlight away from the US. I’m Slavic snd yaruban (Afro-Cuban) and Celtic and I know nothing of my Latin American roots barely. My Slavic roots (was born in Russia but don’t remember it and have lived in US whole life) are very hurtful and difficult to even acknowledge because I know we left russia because the country I currently live in staged an elaborate effort to destroy the USSR and made Russia another oligarchical hellscape plagued with an extreme version of every bad thing the US has only ten times worse. In my country your cultural back ground doesn’t matter, but which of four “race” categories your skin tone fits into, and on this begin basis we have oppressed our very own, anyone who isn’t white-passing like me, for centuries. I work as hard as I can to be an activist and empower and support those who’s voices are suppressed, and try to sit back and learn a lesson from those who differ from me- but I still feel guilt that I live here and am part of this place even though I hate the government and everything about the neoliberal system we have. So I too loce your country and someday I hope the hierarchy and elites are dissolved and taken over and once we organize our own people collectively we can become closer with our South American neighbors and begin to share, corporate, learn, and support each other. That’s what I want. I have no desire to be a millionaire and do it care that I live in a country where people can be disgusting rich. I want harmony, balance, unity, cohesion, peace, and diversity. I can’t possibly enjoy my life and discover my potential knowing so much suffering and prejudice is present. Sorry for long reply and you may never see this but I’m happy for you and i would love to lesrn more about your country and culture and what similar works are out there that I do not know ab

Comrade, I have a suggestion to make. Can you also put time markers (like what Plastic Pills does for his videos) highlighting the various subtopics in your videos?

@themarxistproject

3 жыл бұрын

Can't believe I never thought of that, good idea!

Just finished reading "pedagogy of the oppressed". This was the exact approach of the communists also before Freire's work. It brought incredible results and I would highly encourage people to travel to any CIS or Soviet satellite country and just talk to somebody age 50+.

@scocassovegetus

Жыл бұрын

Yes, very incredible. Millions of deaths, starvation, the total destruction of countries...

Wow, I’m going to have to share this with my reading group comrades. Thank you so much for this.

As a brasilian student of philosophy I am so proud that the foreign marxist use Paulo Freire as a theorethycal tool for helping the working class, the "método paulo freire (paulo freire's method)" is something that Brazil don't use since the dictadorship we had in our country and until today conservatives thinks that all of the humans sciences professors are using his methods

@sad-qy7jz

3 жыл бұрын

The American bourges try to suppress the existence of these philosophers and models. But I promise many of us fight this and embrace the diverse pool of knowledge from both Latin America, and all around the world to piece together the post-capitalist society we desire. This theory is fantastic and so relevant to a lot of social justice discourses snd a good stepping stone to help introduce those into social justice (feminism, critical race theory, LGBTQ rights) that aren’t as into politics into them and realize how the systems we have must be scrapped and fully re-worked

@VictorLopez-qm5kz

3 жыл бұрын

I am learning about Paulo Freire in a class about Multicultural education. From what I have been reading, he has elucidated upon some of the concepts of social reproduction and brigs insight into conflict theory and how it can play out in social reproduction in schools as well. Just overall great stuff.

This channel is so important

EXCELLENT...! exploration of the present generation education and suppression of ideologies of the youths...

This was an excellent video. Thank you for covering this most valuable subject!

The best teacher I ever had was a professor of chemical engineering, this video reminded me of how he would teach. He would bring up some phenomenon and give an overview of it, then he would ask the class what they thought was responsible for it. Then he would pause, watching the students' faces, looking for the "ah-hah" moment, and he would call on that student for the answer. Once the student answered, he would have a dialog with the class, discussing the merits of the answer. If the answer turned out to be wrong or incomplete he would then ask the class for what else might be responsible for the phenomenon. This was a graduate level class with only about 15 students, in larger classes this would be much more difficult.

@sad-qy7jz

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I think massive lecture halls don’t really serve as compatible options :/. I think in order for everyone to be included, to avoid certain voices accidentally monopolizing the discussion or accruing bargaining power we’re going to need classes within the 10-25 range of students. MAYBE like 50 split into groups with like different TAs but I think that kind of selves into shady territory and mirrors needlessly complex hierarchies in corporations (I know that seems hyperbolic but things should be as horizontal as possible imo). I think without capital and a market in the picture this would be much easier. I can get into it deeper, but i believe there’s a lot of evidence that universities would be less cramped and only include those who genuinely are pursuing their passion and are called to contribute to society through that career as opposed to because of pressure and coercion.. and other modes of contributing to society and working would be selected more authentically and be far more attractive and meaningful- and for those who just wished to learn but not obtain university-credentials to be a competent doctor or engineer for instance, community education programs could be organized.. channels such as this exist to serve this function out of sheer enjoyment as it is so I’m sure this wouldn’t be an issue. So therefore we could have open educational learning communities as universities that still employ a more horizontal structure and not the “banking” model but that are specific to those obtaining the competency to work a given job

@kuriadams9138

3 жыл бұрын

@@sad-qy7jz Yep, I agree, and this was indeed a class of about 15 students.

Awesome summary of Frerie's work! I've felt a lot of the same things you brought up here about how the left sometimes still employs the banking model, just with a different set of knowledge as being important

I just found this channel and I’m probably spamming you with comments. I’m going to share this with all my socialist/anarchist friends as well as people who aren’t entirely opposed but aren’t really informed about it/sold on it (socdems and my liberal parents who basically acknowledge every material issue capitalism causes yet have that “defeat trump” mentality). I find it so important to take theory and not only make it accessible but also applicable to a modern context. As you know, Marx was heavily insistent that his works should not be some kind on unchanging bible and as material conditions shift over the course of history, his ideas should be expanded upon, re-contextualized, even updated whenever necessary. I think people get put off and imagine some boring hellscape of only factories and little leisure time- at this point of history industry, innovation, science, art, technology etc were INSANELY less complex and vast compared to now. It doesn’t mean there’s no room for the technology and culture we enjoy today, but rather it simply didn’t exist snd wouldnt be accounted for. Tangent aside, I really like this discussion about education and think it’s so crucial to expand on how various pillars of society could be reworked in the foreseeable future. It’s easy to explain how a post-cap upper phase communist coffee shop or hair salon would work but when it comes to education, hospitals, mental healthcare, research/academia, “police” - its a lot harder to give somebody a realistic answer. We may just not have some of the answers now, and as material conditions and culture shift, it might be impossible to predict how a socialist/anarchist/communist society would turn out- but in the event of a transition that I hope to see in my lifetime, we do need to have a starting point in mind and not make the same mistakes that other nations made or are currently making.

Excellent video ! Such high quality, is there a team behind this or are you doing all of this all alone ?

@themarxistproject

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I normally do most of the videos but people have helped narrate, animate, write, and edit! For example, *nullptr made the animated intro for the videos.

@flavioardizio7242

3 жыл бұрын

@@themarxistproject damn good job then dude, I'm genuinely impressed

@rurak2727

3 жыл бұрын

The Marxist Project Have you ever thought of multilingual content? Languages like Spanish, French, Portuguese, Bahasa Indonesia, Mandarin, Cantonese, Urdu, Arabic and Bengali all have dozens of millions of speakers and could be very beneficial to spread your education

@themarxistproject

3 жыл бұрын

I'm always very open to people contributing in other languages! I'm probably only qualified to do Russian (my other languages aren't really good enough for videos), but it would be really cool if people offered their expertise

Oh Comrade, I can't thank you enough for this video. Much needed. Feel like reading this book right now.

@themarxistproject

3 жыл бұрын

Happy you liked it! I highly recommend reading the book, it's a good one.

@shantanusingh5320

3 жыл бұрын

Lal Salaam Comrade, good to see someone from India here.

@abguitar99

3 жыл бұрын

@@shantanusingh5320 Lal Salaam ✊

Very good summary! Kudos!

I have found this technique to be a viable way of persuasion, not only education. Only through understanding small business owners am I able to educate them on the struggle of the working class, and vice versa can they educate me and further my tolerance of other classes, reducing my prejudices against the petite bourgeois, people who we need to lead into socialism too. And that‘s just one of many examples

@travissharon1536

2 жыл бұрын

CC is framed very well, but it's just more commie garbage. "the students teach the teacher" That's a very lala land thought. The thing is that kids don't know hardly anything. This is purely destructive. If communists had a new solution I would gladly hear them out, but every time it is attempted it yields the same type of oppression similar to medieval times. Students have some knowledge, but I swear commies just want to break the world, no thought about a future, just tear down the existing structure.

@arthurdaffos1490

Жыл бұрын

Persuading or convincing? Im wondering because you might want your potential allies to accept the ideology on more than an emotionnal level.

I love watching how this channel has grown

Great Video. Paulo Freire should be more well known abroad.

Love the video :)

Great stuff, more of this please!

really well done. after a while I stopped noticing the music but it has a weird kind of twilight zone, hypnotic kind of thing going on which feels even heavier than depositing lol but excellent content. moves thru the chapters and provides good advice to organizers as well

May I recommend going over Ignacio Martín-Baró and his psychology of liberation?

Superb video!

Very informative video as always

Very good video comrade ☺🚩

Just curious. What do y'all think of the PCUSA?

I would recommend adding the book citation into the description. You are working with some quotes in the video and you put in the page at which it appears, but it is not that easy to find which edition of the book you are talking about.

Great work!

Can I ask one more thing? Who is the oppressor meant by Freire in his book and its interconnectedness of these oppressors in modern society?

thank you,that explains a lot

A more correct direct translation of conscientizaçao is "the process of consciousness emerging" the last part of the word connotates it being a process of becoming. As in becoming conscious

@augustinasvegys1548

2 ай бұрын

in other words 'becoming awake' or 'woke'?

@MasterOfBaiter

2 ай бұрын

@@augustinasvegys1548 not quite cause the key part is that it's a process you are in not a state. The language around being awake and not is also kinda not great for discussing this cause it's a bit too binary. It states you either get it or you don't and usually it's more you are in the process of starting to get it in different degrees. Saying someone is either awake or not kinda makes it sound like a video game where you know something the moment you put a skill point in lol

Lovely video I love it

Thank you comrade

Nice. Epistemic humility is definitely needed.

Paolo Friere's Pedagogy of the Oppressed, 30th Anniversary English Edition: drive.google.com/file/d/10bkJJWqy4uZW-yeTA2aHaifycWdojigX/view

So when my student tells me something that is factually wrong I should accept it as part of dialogue?

Interesting. On a sidenote, I'm not a big fan of the term "dehumanizing" because the process of ceasing to be human can mean a transcendence of humanity just as the process of ceasing to be "protozoa" or unicellular organisms was a transcendence and not a regression. Maybe "subhumanizing" would be a more fittting term, idk. I really want to know what it is about hierarchy and/or centralization that seems to corrupt so many socialist projects and I'd prefer to know in terms that ML(M)s would understand.

What does friere meant when he said oppressed people have a fear of freedom?

@Icecreamcon3

Жыл бұрын

Freedom means responsibility and responsibility is not easy

always strange to find dutch videos on the internet

hearing that good soviet wave background music

@travissharon1536

2 жыл бұрын

That's disturbing, using good and soviet in the same sentence shows a dramatic lack of historical knowledge.

If you like the background song go check 1hour of melancholic sovietwave on yt

I typed in "convert to marxism" and this was result #5 Good job comrade

my brother is a ;leftist GA getting PhD in both math band physics and primarily to teach - he was going to (hes pretty gifted obvi lol, so his merit would support him) do reserach and and this book helped radicsloze him and made him choose to dedicate most of his career to rteaching :)

@scocassovegetus

Жыл бұрын

Very sorry to hear that. He has been indoctrinated into their cult.

very nice

Good video - ironic though, that this video engages in information banking. It is, however, a very good informational base for further debate and education, as others have already spoken of their book circles.

@themarxistproject

3 жыл бұрын

Ha, true. The biggest limitation of youtube channels like this is precisely that they must adhere to the method of depositing information. I guess I can only say that no one involved in this project assumes ultimate knowledge and that none of the ideas presented on the channel are meant to be treated as *the* correct interpretation of reality/theory.

What the h*** is that Freddie Krueger music?

Dude I love your channel, it’s the kind of media we need as leftists so it’s not always “read more theory and then we can talk” kind of think of finding some ppl to I just started informing myself abt antiauthoritarian pedagogy and you’re coming through like that is great

We studied and discussed Pedagogy of the Opressed in my English class last year. I am so amazed that he is featured here

This really depends on the topic at hand. If you’re teaching someone about geography, there is no dialogue to be had. You must engage in the banking system of education. Milan IS inside Italy, end of discussion. If it’s an art class, sure dialogue should be encouraged.

@lucassalgado9167

3 жыл бұрын

well, given your example, it could be interesting to understant why Milan is inside Italy and not another countrie of the EU, or maybe even why Milan is not a country on its on. The existence of facts doesn't neutralize the importance of understanding how they came to be, how they may change and how they are contextualized in society as a whole.

@xenoblad

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucassalgado9167 If you're going over the history of how Milan came to be, or the nature of the social construct of a city, then you aren't really talking about geography. Facts don't exist in a vacuum, but specialized subjects can isolate the fact within a categorized body of facts for the purposes of specialized study.

@LowestofheDead

Жыл бұрын

@@xenoblad What's interesting is that all the specialized sciences teach their isolated body of facts - but students rarely learn _why_ those particular facts were isolated and what the science is used for. For example, a psychiatrists used to be taught about the "disease" of homosexuality and how to diagnose it. But they weren't taught any of the surrounding philosophy of why that sexuality is "mentally ill" but heterosexuality is fine. Or how their science could be influenced by social norms. Maybe the sciences could benefit from dialogue, so scientists can see how their work fits into the wider world. And so that they know when to question the underlying philosophy of their science.

This doesn't work in any K-12 system nor should they be thinking about most of this. I was never taught anything about this method or this philosopher. I was not taught to teach and for the students just to be passive. I was taught to teach in a variety of ways for different learning styles and ability. That included them working independently, in groups and it did encourage the students to use critical thinking skills and to think for themselves but we were NOT taught to teach young kids what their politics should be or other sensitive social issues that should be left to the parents to talk with their children about. Critical thinking is not the same as looking critically at political and social issues that are NOT appropriate for young children. They have no concept of what some of this even is at their age. I would love for this guy to be in a Kindergarten class and let them teach themselves!!!! 🤣😂🤣

@sabrewolf89

19 күн бұрын

This is the only acceptabke theory at UW Madison.

Hog wash

And how is this supposed to be a Marxist method...? Marx believed in facts and objective truth, how the fck is that the result of a democratic learning process?

@scocassovegetus

Жыл бұрын

marx didn't believe in facts and objective truth -- he was out of his mind.

I am a teacher, and this is a huge pile of crap

Smells like garbage in here.

Marxists lol.

This is horifying....

I dont get it. So teachers should not teach students facts like 2+2=4, we have to let the group decide? And if the group believes that 2=2=5, then we must accept it? Sounds like some kind of hippy liberal crap.

@nuhnyuh7493

3 жыл бұрын

@*nullptr "Just because you do one thing one way, doesn't mean you must apply that principle to the extreme"

@nuhnyuh7493

3 жыл бұрын

@*nullptr its a paraphrased quote from Thoughtslime in one of his videos addressing the mode of thinking OP is displaying

@PoliticalEconomy101

3 жыл бұрын

I do understand the argument. Its just basic liberal anarchist logic. It leads to subjectivity, anti-science, and anti-facts. It allows religious nut jobs, capitalists, and flat earthers to be legitimate and valuable.

@PoliticalEconomy101

3 жыл бұрын

No you are the one who dont understand it. Thats why you have zero argument. Silly kid

@rurak2727

3 жыл бұрын

Constitutional Socialism No. It‘s not about debating about facts. It‘s about receiving information and collectively interpreting it. A teacher should not dictate a student how an interpretation should be made - both are students and present their interpretations, deciding on which one or which contents through logical argument and use of the aforementioned information. For example, if you are presented with a text by Foucault and someone else with a text by Gramsci, you can both learn from each other, but you will also further develop a collective theory of understanding society and culture