My father always told me to stop asking "Why" so much. Despite not listening to him, I did eventually fall into a habit of not thinking critically about things for long periods at a time. I am glad to have found this channel, and to once again not only be asking questions, but actually thinking about them in great depth. It has gone a ways twards helping me to feel alive, and for that joy- I have you to thank. I probably won't be supporting you on patreon, but I will advocate for your cause at my college.

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+Raharu Haruko Aw, thanks!

@liberalstudiesmaterials899

4 жыл бұрын

As poverty is a extreme tragedy. Which ways can eradicate it including the relative poverty class please?

@chrism7275

4 жыл бұрын

Poor liberal hates his daddy because he told you to have a little discipline and do as your told

@sealogic4552

3 жыл бұрын

Chris M it’s always worth asking if what you’re told is the right thing to do. If moral dicta come without a strong justification, odds are it’s not for good reasons. One can be a productive member of society without being a sheep.

@MegaBanne

3 жыл бұрын

My dad use to call me the crone against the stream when ever I question things he said. Then I would answer him "only dead fishes follow the stream".

Good guy Ollie even gives his time to analyzing total nonsense. He's the hero we need but not the one we deserve.

@riskokrizkoslav1038

8 жыл бұрын

+Ian Anderson I just destroyed his critique..go check my comment.

@iananderson12796

8 жыл бұрын

+Risko Krizkoslav I have no interest in you or your worthless ideas

@riskokrizkoslav1038

8 жыл бұрын

Ian Anderson It's natural for you to dismiss whatever ideas threaten your bubble. Incompetence and intellectual dishonesty isn't rare these days.

@kissessaywhat

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Anderson we were all thinking it but didn't want to say anything.

@legzfalloffgirl5148

4 жыл бұрын

I tried to read The Frankfurt School and Political Correctness... It's a mess and I think I'm dumber as a result😓

So what sounded like a vague far right conspiracy theory: WAS a vague far right wing conspiracy theory.

@dangerouslytalented

8 жыл бұрын

Seth Apex Then go fetch me some quotes from Marx that say the things that cultural Marxism is about. Or things written by people from the Frankfurt school.

@dangerouslytalented

8 жыл бұрын

Seth Apex If it is not something codified by those whose philosophy it actually is claimed to be, it CAN'T BE A THING.

@dangerouslytalented

8 жыл бұрын

Seth Apex ONLY the stuff about class conflict was codified by him. It was ALL class struggle.

@theillestbanger

8 жыл бұрын

+dangerouslytalented Oh look "Muh Right Wingzz wawawa". Another indoctrinated fool.

@dangerouslytalented

8 жыл бұрын

Can you put your objection to what I have said into terms that actually put forward an argument? I mean, you did not even present a fallacy, you just put in ungrammatical mockery.

"undermining american values", that sound like when homophobes said that gay marriages is going to destroy the institution of marriage.

@drphil3003

4 жыл бұрын

Marriage was dead before gays ruined it even more

@schonlingg.wunderbar2985

4 жыл бұрын

@@drphil3003 And who destroyed it?

@inactiveusertypeofaccount181

4 жыл бұрын

It did

@inactiveusertypeofaccount181

4 жыл бұрын

@@schonlingg.wunderbar2985 the government. Marriage is a religious ceremony

@David-gr1do

3 жыл бұрын

@tester123532456 😂 According to who? A bible that means nothing to most people in the U.S.?

Alrighty, time to state anything slightly conservative or right winged as cultural nazism.

@sebyiuga2184

8 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's not what he said at all.

@AYstrength

8 жыл бұрын

+Blahidontcare11 the already demonize the right by godwin pointing allllllll the time

@tjofsan1232

8 жыл бұрын

+Seby iuga I believe Blahidon was sarcastic there, pointing out how absurd it would be if the same tactic was used the other way 'round.

@tacovshotdog

8 жыл бұрын

+Blahidontcare11 Doesn't that already happen? "OMG ur literally Hitler!!11" and all of that.

@BigGamer2525

8 жыл бұрын

+Seby iuga whoosh

Ah, so this term really is as absurd as it sounds! It's being tossed around the Australian parliament lately in regards to a school program that educates about sexuality. How it infiltrated the highest levels of government is something I don't want to think about. In any case, it strikes me as odd that Marx would be associated with social justice trends and political correctness. In an age of rampant, domineering capitalism I reckon he'd have other things on his mind if he were alive today.

@ikendusnietjij2

8 жыл бұрын

+The Manifold Curiosity "tossed around the Australian parliament lately in regards to a school program that educates about sexuality" Clearly there's people highly offended by what's taught in that program and they wish to stifle free speech. (or that'd be said if it was the left that were complaining) "it strikes me as odd that Marx would be associated with social justice trends and political correctness." I can only imagine those invoking the term think like this: "Marx stands for socialist things - those are bad by definition - anything with Marx is bad and insulting - I don't have to give arguments if I can label something with an insult"

@riskokrizkoslav1038

8 жыл бұрын

+The Manifold Curiosity I just destroyed his critique..go check my comment.

@ironwoodcarts4729

8 жыл бұрын

Only vestiges of free-market capitalism remain. To blame the corruption of our time as being the result of property rights and voluntary transactions is absurd. If anything, our woes are the result of the subversion of free-market capitalism.

@Blaze6108

7 жыл бұрын

"Cultural Marxism" is used because "Marxism" is a scary word. It's the next generation of fear-mongering, want to make people agree on your political ideas, even if they are batshit insane? Just present the opposition as "Marxist", and the automatic communism emergency bell will ring in most people's heads and they will more easily agree with you. Not saying that communism wasn't a bad thing, but the recent attempts by certain groups to associate anything opposed to their views to it is telling of the sorry state of our political debate IMO.

@a.carneirozhu8104

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cha4k But are they doing it because they genuinely believe in and support his works or because it pisses them off and gets attention

Labour theory of Value predated Marxist adoption, Adam Smith developed on it and Karl Marx himself credited Benjamin Franklin in his 1729 essay entitled "A Modest Enquiry into the Nature and Necessity of a Paper Currency" as being "one of the first" to advance the theory.

The way I interpreted it (although this may just be me) is that Marxism was all about viewing society as groups in conflict with each other, with the exploited and the exploiter, so cultural Marxism referred to the modern assertion that society is divided into race, gender etc in which there is an oppressor class and an oppressed class. Isn't that a reasonable interpretation?

@kirtichandrakomarraju5164

4 жыл бұрын

That's how many feel it is supposed to be used and I think that's correct. The problem is that right wingers themselves do not know what they mean when they use it to point someone out. The leftists keep denying anything like that even exists. And neutral third persons are left confused.

@smithfinland214

3 жыл бұрын

@@kirtichandrakomarraju5164 well nobody in the left has or will call himself "cultural marxism" so it's mostly a right wing "Idea". marxism has a class theory where you have workers, bourgeoisie and aristocracts. for marxist american revolution and french revolution was a bourgeois revolution of rich men who were not aristocrats, that next revolution was going to be workers overthrowing the bourgeois and bla bla bla... a traditional marxist don't really care about gender or lgbt plus whatever. they see all this as a rich dividing the oppressed workers so they can rule them easier. instead of being united against the ruling class which are the rich and powerful. as a center-left social democrat, who is not a marxist. i am all for equality of all, but i think the way "SJW" go about it is not productive or reasonable. there's a better way to talk about it of course the right wingers take lot out of contexst.

@fernandoterra4108

3 жыл бұрын

Cultural marxism is a usefull term for this. Good description.

@fernandoterra4108

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody in the rigth describe himself "neoliberal". But neoliberalism is a thing, no?

@annasawicka4096

2 жыл бұрын

@@smithfinland214 that is what class reductionist would say, and those types are heavily criticized in socialist circles. Have you not watched the video? Marxists are very diverse group of people who can believe different things

Isn't Minnicino a pokemon? Google autocorrects it as if it was, anyway.

@wrathofgrothendieck

3 жыл бұрын

missingno was a glitch pokemon in the original GB game

Interesting Video! So basically Marxism is a pretty vague umbrella term and Cultural Marxism a misnomer which is used by lots of people in lots of different ways, but mostly with a negative touch to it. As in most cases, defining words when you're using them is helpful for avoiding misunderstandings.

I don't know how long this has been sitting on my "watch later" list, but I'm glad I got around to it.

Not a good description of Leninism (and no I'm not a Leninist).

As I already knew, people who used the phrase "Cultural Marxism" have no idea what they're talking about. This means you, Sargon. Basic critical thinking shows that the term - by the conflicting meanings within the word "Cultural" and "Marxist" - holds no logical meaning.

@WashashoreProd

8 жыл бұрын

+The1AndOnlyDannyBro I would take it a step further. "Cultural Marxism" is a shibboleth for Dunning-Kruger cases.

@madshummelshj-agerholm3820

8 жыл бұрын

+The1AndOnlyDannyBro So Sargon used that term, suddenly it became at lot more clear why i could not take him seriosly

@psychotic17

8 жыл бұрын

+Mads Hummelshøj-Agerholm I think the reason for that might be very different, mate.

@petepetersen5418

5 жыл бұрын

It's because they went to Wikipedia University instead of a real University where they could've have learned real sociology. Then they would know that they've just made up a name for a term that already exists: cultural homogenisation.

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Sargon the controlled ops fence sitting libertarian lol. Spare me.

1:53 This is incredibly incorrect. Lenin did not advocate for a "coup by a small vanguard" as you argue. He understood that revolution can only take place when 1. There is a crisis among the working class (workers cannot continue living under the current system) 2. There is a crisis within the ruling class 3. The working class is conscious enough of the need for revolution to have formed a revolutionary vanguard party and their own systems of power - workplace/neighborhood councils (soviets). That is to say, revolution is inevitable and it's what the workers are fighting for. When these revolutions fail, the ruling class may embrace fascism to tamp the working class down (see: Germany, Italy Spain, etc. after their failed revolutions) What you are describing is Blanquism which is a trend within anarchism and has nothing to do with Marxism.

@fenceyhen4249

2 жыл бұрын

This is a pretty inaccurate video tbh

Enjoy your channel, learning to understand what seems alot of youth is getting into. I already have gotten allot of info on this in the past but needed to sharpen my knowledge up.

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

You're not getting knowledge from this channel... information maybe, and BAD information at that. It's propaganda lol.

Fascinating! I especially loved the deep dive into the conspiracy theories surrounding the Frankfurt School

Oh dear, enjoy the comments while you can before GamerGate turns it into sludge.

@Camaranote

8 жыл бұрын

+Geary oh honey........ gamer gators have been long dead.

@GearyDigit

8 жыл бұрын

Look down one comment.

@GearyDigit

8 жыл бұрын

I'm a WWII movie about a Sherman crew?

Oh the comments this video is going to bring. This is going to be a shit show.

How do you ruin the credibility of an idea that goes against the woke narrative? Call it anti-Semitic when it really has nothing to do with Jews at all.

@CarterWills1

2 жыл бұрын

Cultural Marxism is a renamed version of JudeoBolshevism. Many of the far right will include the Jews in Cultural Marxism.

@sonofsanto

Жыл бұрын

kinda does when you look at who’s behind it

And if you are that person Olly describes in the beginning of this video, you should go see hbomberguy's video on cultural marxism once you're done here. Should give some perspective on what sort of people use that term, at least unironically. Personally, I first became aware of the term a little over five years ago when I read the Anders Breivik's awful 'manifesto'.

This comments section is pure gold. Thank you all so much, this has been a wonderful time.

@marvin2678

2 жыл бұрын

Nah

@danielblank9917

Жыл бұрын

@@marvin2678 yah

@marvin2678

Жыл бұрын

@@danielblank9917 no, not really, they can't form whole sentences, nor from their own opinion. Sad

It takes much longer than 3, 7min videos to thoroughly and adequately analyze the history and modern use of the term Marxism. (This comment is directed at the people in the comment section who are drawing inaccurate conclusions based on incomplete evidence)

"Stalinism refers to... whatever Joseph Stalin was doing that day" I'm absolutely dying. That's gonna live rent-free (I'm no parasite landlord) in my head for the rest of my life lmao

@ohnoes423

3 жыл бұрын

the parasitic landlord made me laugh

@Stinoco

3 жыл бұрын

Landlord are not parasites, soy boy

Needs more flaming guitars.

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Gillen (Can of Spambot) ^ This comment is always applicable to all things.

Are you going to do a video on the Frankfurt school? 📺

@BigGamer2525

8 жыл бұрын

he... just did?

@thebotanicalmind

8 жыл бұрын

Not really... I am thinking a deeper look into the philosophers of the Frankfurt school

@ynnekthennek7009

8 жыл бұрын

+BigGamer2525 in what way did this give any information at all about the Frankfort school? It avoided talking about specifics in every case even brought up by the narrator himself.

@BigGamer2525

8 жыл бұрын

Ynnek Thennek You're right

Where is the conspiracy tho?

Now we have San Francisco choirs singing, "We're coming for your children."

hey can you bring back this adorable character for part 5? or do i have to wait until march 2020? (because i will HAPPILY wait)

ah, thank fuck you're not a stalinist. :,) this is a great series!!!

Plss do something about Anarchism

1:17 An interesting thing to note is that, From a biological perspective, There's not such thing as a "Fish"; "Fish" refers to numerous groups of animals, Some rather distantly related to eachother, And there's not really any objective definition of a fish that would include everything we call fish but exclude, well, us, Or at the least exclude some things we don't consider fish, such as whales or sea-snakes. I'm not quite sure how/if this is relevant, but it felt like something interesting to mention.

I always assumed cultural marxism must've just referred to marxist class conflict ideas applied to race, gender and more, like modern identity politics.

@pedroenrique9613

3 жыл бұрын

It is, you have just encountered propaganda my friend.

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

And you were right... this PoS channel is Marxist lol. Marxists can't review Marxists, or talk about Marxism objectively...

@sarahsh541

2 жыл бұрын

@@EQOAnostalgia define Marxism.

@marvin2678

2 жыл бұрын

That's it exactly

@wilforddraper1894

2 жыл бұрын

@@pedroenrique9613 ? I don't understand

Ehh... It was nice to learn more about the history of the term but I always thought it had a more specific meaning. Whereas Marx seems to have divided the classes into the worker class and the capitalist class based on the modes of production; cultural marxists divide people into classes based on culture, ethnicity and race. I understand that there are probably better terms for that (cultural dialectical materialism maybe?) but this video only explained how this way of thinking was (wrongly) associated with Marx in a typical smear campaign. Also, the definition that I presented explains the tendencies of cultural marxists to discriminate and fall into racism and sexism, so it has some explanatory power?

@LlibertarianGalt

2 жыл бұрын

Marx regularly talked about race and viewed it on the same level of class in it's position to produce labour. Cultural Marxism is entirely based in his writings.

Ollie wanders gleefully into the crap-storm of American politics. Prepare to be viciously corrected and dismissed!

Bottom line: ANYBODY in ANY nation has the fucking right to lobby for Marxist laws, and NOT be told to "move to some other nation".

Yeah the people usually refered to as "cultural marxists" are surely not using Marx binary system of "Opressor" vs "Opressed" and applying it to various other aspects of life like race, gender, sexual orientation etc. etc. And people who embrace this ideology surely haven't gained control of most of academia, media and politics by now.

@kinghassy334

3 жыл бұрын

That's by hegel, please read some philosophy because it isn't as simple as oppressor vs oppressed

@haraldvonhinten8921

3 жыл бұрын

@@kinghassy334 Marx literally divided society into "proletariat" aka the oppressed and the "bourgeoisie" aka the oppressors.

As a marxist i would like to applaud you on this series you've nailed all the fundamentals.

I've only heard cultural Marxism used by other Marxists/leftists, usually in a positive way. I'm having trouble understanding. Was the phrase "reclaimed" by leftists since this video?

@krissyeva

3 жыл бұрын

it wasn't a phrase that really is to be reclaimed in the first place, if someone is saying it as a joke - its within the context to make FUN of those who use it seriously because we all know it truly does not make sense.

@whenyoupulloutyourdickands4023

2 жыл бұрын

@@krissyeva just like systemic racism and white supremacy

You should a collaboration on Alltime Conspiracies about the Frankfurt School Conspiracy

Hey, what about the Gramsci prison note books? The Cultural hegemony

ARRRRGHHHH. Ollie, I wish so much that I could do a deep dive with you over a beer. We agree on so much, have so much common ground, but disagree on just enough stuff that it would be so much fun.

Some left wing people I know of refer to the regressive let's obsession with impression as cultural Marxism. this idea of the cis, straight white man as the ALWAYS opressor of the trans gay lesbian black woman (irrespective of whether there actually is any oppression) is a dangerous idea. the reason for the Marxism label is in reference to the eerie obsession with power dynamics. With Marx it would have been working class/upper class dynamics. with "cultural Marxists" it would be men/women or gay/straight. just saying.

@Owlpunk

8 жыл бұрын

+yi'Wa Question: What, exactly, is the difference between a "regressive leftist" and a "cultural Marxist"?

@TheDashingRogue

8 жыл бұрын

+InnerPartisan the label of liberal think John locke not john Stewart

@Hecatonicosachoron

8 жыл бұрын

+yi'Wa The only reason it exist as a slur is the persistent anti-communist propaganda in the US having taken root. In any case, Marx's philosophy has nothing to do with any of these ideas, so the use of the term 'cultural marxism' as a slur does nothing than underlining the ignorance of the person that uses it. Which unfortunately seems not to deter them from using it because the possession of knowledge is not valued at all nowadays.

@ThomAalmoes

8 жыл бұрын

+yi'Wa I spend most of my time studying gender studies and post-colonialism and have never encountered arguments like that and I'm a white, cis, straight, middle-class man. What those studies point out is that, historically and today, there exist structures in society that favour people like me. It doesn't claim that I, as a white man, am personally responsible for this imbalance in society. What it does ask is recognition of this imbalance and, consequently, policies and attitudes that might change these structures. Most of these theories aren't concerned with individual people but with societal structures and trends, and definitely not with questions of blame and guilt.

@Hecatonicosachoron

8 жыл бұрын

Sam Hewitt That's as an irrelevant characterisation as calling the advocates of superdeterminism in quantum mechanics "Aeschylians" because they could be seen, with some creative thinking as believing in fate. Truly irrelevant and out-of-touch epithet. Also, just deal with it - those in the anti-PC counterculture espouse some highly questionable ethics. It is a reactionary movement, that exists only to divide working people instead of uniting them to demand just rewards for their work.

Reminds me of Kubricks eyes wide shut, lots of subtle details in that movie related to some of the topics covered here but specifically the password to the party was Fidelio

As a marxist, I liked this one! I did think that the hand-waving about Stalinism was kind of unsound. Reading Stalin's works make it pretty clear that he understand Marx, Engels, Lenin etc. And heavy-handedness aside, the proletariat of the USSR continued class struggle when Stalin was in power, and gained serious victories, while the nascent bourgeoisie was really in trouble. This is best contrasted with Krushchev era and subsequent eras where you had really serious anti-marxism. I Also think with respect to Lenin 'inventing' the idea of the vanguard of the proletariat forming a party and seizing power, this stuff is present in Marx and Engels, but not as philosophically rigorously theorized until Lenin's writing. Many marxist groups aside from Lenin's were trying to do the same sort of stuff without 'following' Lenin's lead across Europe.

@olofolofsson8544

8 жыл бұрын

+jacobromu Reading Stalin actually makes it clear that he didn't understand Marx very well. The Stalinist ideologues even proclaimed the law of value "now functioning under socialism" in the 50s, with Stalins approval of course. Even a cursory reading of the - first chapter of Capital - is enough to debunk this as a blatant attempt to justify totalitarianism combined with state capitalism in the name of "actually existing socialism". Both Engels and Lenin would agree with me on this. And, as we all know by know, the proletariat was exploited under Stalin in a manner well comparable to the worst excesses of western capitalism. The suffering and starvation of the russian proletariat is well documented, excused by state accumulation of capital to further military expansion and regional domination. But in order to understand this you have to actuall READ and understand what it is Marx is trying to tell us about how we organize our world.

Weird video since the term was used way before the 90s in sociology literature but alright.

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

The guy is a liar and an obvious Marxist pawn.

I think you have missed the goal here somewhat. I agree it is a general and vague term. And I agree it’s roots are believed to be in many of the ideas that were combined by the “Frankfurt School”. But most people using this term are referring to a simplified Marxist view power struggles between class and economic grouping, mainly how one class oppresses and controls another class. And transposing that onto culture. How one group oppressed another group. Be it race, sex, sexual preference, religion etc. So instead of the power dynamic of one class against another. They pit one group against another. A view of the world that fits snugly in with collectivism, intersexuality and SJWs etc. It’s simply a lens on how they see the world. If you describe someone as a cultural Marxist, It doesn’t mean you think they are part of some grand plan, a giant conspiracy. It’s just an observation about how they view the world. All about power, all about cultural groups. No doubt some nut jobs try to flesh that out with crazy stuff. But then there’s always people that see patterns and grand narratives, plots and conspiracies where there really are not any. That’s part of why it’s so generalised, and for many people that it is used against its inaccurate. But it’s just like many on the left calling people down the middle or on the right “reactionary” Most of the time this is just a sweeping statement and is not accurate.

@philosophytube did you get the $350 on patron? or didn't it go through? I cancelled it straight away, but thought it would do one payment

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+Samuel Woods Pledges go through on or around the first of the month after they're made, so if you pledged in March it won't go through until at the earliest April 1st. Patreon always emails you to tell you your card has been charged. But that's a very generous pledge: if it goes through you'll have rewards to collect and big thanks from me!

@samuelwoods6648

8 жыл бұрын

It was about a month ago. my account was charged £295 and Pateron told me it was being held in escrow. I thought it would be given on 1st of March. But I feel I may have mucked it up by cancelling too soon. Do you know of any way I can contact Patreon privately to enquire? You present well, thank you. Also, will Ethics of Collateral damage be made? I'm looking forward to that.

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

They should have an email address on their website you can use. And yeah, when I get back from my holiday I will honour the vote under the Mill episode. That video will get made at some point, don't worry.

@samuelwoods6648

8 жыл бұрын

+Samuel Woods Did some enquiring, Yeah I was stupid and cancelled it too soon. I was refunded, so I'll do it properly this time! They even gave me back the tax? That seems strange to me, didn't they lose money?

Great video.

It looks like you didn't actually research Stalinism and that time period as well as you did Marxism and Leninism, did you?

@baaaldur

4 жыл бұрын

nope, he clearly didn't, which is rather disappointing. just incredibly reductive, blatantly incorrect series of statements in that part.

@gustavosantos106

4 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment the same thing. Thanks for having already done it.

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

Both scumbags. Who cares? May they rot.

The term Cultural Marxism refers to a subgroup or shift in Marxist thought that began with or around the time of Antonio Gramsci’s writings concerning cultural hegemony’s role in preventing the proletariat from developing the class consciousness necessary to accept the revolutionary role assigned to them by Marx. Members of the Frankfurt school applied Marxist philosophy and other theories, such as those of Freud, to the problem of cultural hegemony and synthesized solutions like critical theory (which is very prevalent today in its nearly universal condemnation of every aspect of American culture). They wrote many things that were critical of traditional culture, although in the aftermath of WWII, it’s members were mainly concerned with preventing the rise of fascism which they had lived through as German Jews. However, member Herbert Marcuse was definitely connected to the counter culture of the 1960s. His works were very influential in 60’s subculture like the gay liberation movement, he was a mentor and teacher to Angela Davis (a Marxist activist), and he was known as the Father of the New Left. His works explored things like using collective memory as a source of revolutionary potential to overthrow the status quo and the need to be intolerant of all ideas coming from the right, while tolerating any and all movements from the left. These are known facts and the Frankfurt School’s influence is obvious today in things like cancel culture, critical studies, radical Marxist groups like antifa and BLM, and how tolerance is applied (ie. Only one riot in the last year was condemned - the one not from the left). Nonsense and conspiracy theories? I’d say that the so called nuts were pretty much on the money.

@facetofloor

3 жыл бұрын

It's called "gaslighting" and "not believing your lying eyes."

@ecantu2600

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, THIS is what cultural Marxism means. The narrator is confused.

@marvin2678

2 жыл бұрын

@@ecantu2600 I mean he's a Marxist so....

+Philosophy Tube I think you need to include a critique of the actual ideas behind the term. I don't think the term is so vague that this cannot be attempted.

Lastly, I'm wondering if the phenomena that the term is attempting to describe (class theory, conflict theory, deconstructionism, privilege theory, and a few other concepts) could more accurately be described as Critical Race Theory + Postmodernism. What do you think? Sorry about all of the comments; I know this is an old video.

+Philosopy Tube @3:20 Theodor Adorno, not Arno :)

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+ianman6 Yup, realised while I was editing :( Shhhhh...

"Totalitarian ideologies" PC isn't an ideology... and Marxism, without Stalinist ideas included, isn't particularly Authoritarian.

What I find funny about the term "cultural Marxism" is that one of the major focuses of Marx's work was flipping Hegel on his head, as in dialectical materialism, where the base (economics, means of production) determines the superstructure (culture, law, ideology). So, a properly Marxist critique doesn't seem to lend itself very well to the idea of changing apparently superficial cultural expressions/dynamics, instead looking to revolutionize or anticipate revolution in economic structures.

@olofolofsson8544

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Deagle I'm not sure this is Marx. Marx is usually more nuanced than that, and I suspect that Marx means that the interrelation of base and superstructure is more complex than "one determines the other".

Origins of the Family, Private Property and the State is a good place to start. The premise is largely based on the studies of early societies in tandem with the emergence of private property and how it lead to patriarchal dominance. It in essence sees monogamy as a requisite to transference of capital and private property.

Thank you! I've been trying to figure out what the story was behind this "Marxist academic" shit.

@Carimbo575

8 жыл бұрын

+Seth Apex so you call "cultural Marxists" people who oppose racialization?

@IXPrometheusXI

8 жыл бұрын

Seth Apex I think that a lot of the time *anger* about unfairness is interpreted as hatred, and having "done nothing" is more or less the problem. White people eating the cake they didn't bake while POC starve, and acting like that's fair because "well, if they had some cake, I wouldn't stop them from eating it." All it really takes to not be hated by these people is to acknowledge when your background gives you an unfair leg up and *do something* (affirmatively, not merely avoid harmful action) to level the playing field. The hatred is directed mostly at people with a "don't care, not my fault, not my problem" attitude. Not that some people aren't just being hateful because they're bitter, but in at least some of those cases I find it hard to blame them. The more I learn about the uncomfortable realities of "just being" black, gay, female, etc, the more I understand why some people can get to that point. Like, just yesterday I read a story about a gay couple near where I live being assaulted with boiling water, leaving one in a coma and the other disfigured. And you're fucking pissed because "some SJW" (or w/e) had the *audacity* to post a mean-spirited meme about straight people on tumblr?

@shoorveersingh

8 жыл бұрын

+Taylor Bennett Thank you.

@Carimbo575

8 жыл бұрын

Dude, when someone says "you are privileged for being white" they are not saying that they hate you. Or that you are oppressing someone.

@nolaffinmatter

8 жыл бұрын

+Seth Apex Consider Hollywood. It's fairly well known and easily observed that White guys get the majority of lead roles and screen time in American movies, and that even behind the camera, White guys make up the vast majority of producers, writers, and directors. This despite the fact that White guys make up less than one third of the U.S. population. There is no evidence to say that women or non-European White people are any less talented at acting/filmmaking, or that they aspire to Hollywood success any less, and there IS evidence that non-White people actually drive theater revenue (which should make them a prime audience to market to). So the disparities must come from somewhere else. One explanation is that the people in charge of approving, funding, and casting movies tend to be people who find stories about White guys to be more familiar / more relatable, and because of their positions of influence, their personal biases have ripple effects through much of Hollywood. Supporting this are many statements from women & non-White people in Hollywood who say they often have trouble getting their ideas accepted, or are kept out of the loop for certain roles, or that the places that Hollywood goes to recruit talent tend to be places that are vast majority White. There are also incidents like the one where the CEO of Marvel said in an email that superhero films about women were a bad idea because nobody would go watch them, or when Ridley Scott attempted to defend the all-White cast of Exodus: Gods & Kings by saying "I can't mount a film of this budget...and say that my lead actor is Mohammad so-and-so from such-and-such. I'm just not going to get financed. So the question doesn’t even come up." So there definitely exists evidence to say that White people and men have a privileged position in Hollywood. This doesn't mean it's EASY for them in Hollywood, by no means. It's near-impossible to make it big in Hollywood no matter who you are. But there seem to be additional obstacles that women & non-White people face. And while I'm specifically talking about Hollywood here, because Hollywood by nature is very visible to the public, similar evidence and stories exist for pretty much any industry. As Taylor Bennett says, you can argue the meaning of the evidence, but you can't deny that the evidence is out there. Edit: I am by no means passing judgement on White people and men, whether inside Hollywood or out. I'm simply saying "Hey, the other two-thirds of America also want to make movies and to be in movies. There still seem to be some obstacles, would you like to work with us to overcome them?"

Great video as usual, and it was nice to find out a bit about the origins of Cultural Marxist conspiracy theories, although I was expecting a bit of a discussion on the Frankfurt School and Critical Theory (although to be fair that would probably take a months worth of videos to do any justice to their work).

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+Alex Goldhill Yeah true. @TheLitCritGuy would be a good person to follow for that.

Olly without facial hair is strange to see after all the recent videos

Cheers Mate!

I think the term "cultural critical theorist" is a bit more accurate than cultural Marxist, as it would seem many of the origins of political correctness and anti-white rhetoric we see from the far left (on the basis of post colonialism) stems from that essay. The whole idea of a Jewish plot to destroy America is stupid! But a system that encourages a never ending cycle of cultural warfare about more and more marginalised groups at the expense of a whipping boy (white culture) is just a misguided ideology. Never assume malice when it can be more easily explained by incompetence.

@roberteospeedwagon3708

8 жыл бұрын

+TheFluffyDuck Yeah, I disagree with all this silly far right conspiracy stuff, but all this political correctness with all white hate has gone too far. Also, nice Hanlon's razor at the end!

@anthonyodonnell8724

5 жыл бұрын

@@roberteospeedwagon3708 Where do you think that comes from? Susan Sontag said in 1967 that "the white race is the cancer of human history." She was a member of the Marxist left and was personally and professionally connected to Herbert Marcuse, one of the chief figures of the Frankfurt School. He lived with her and her husband while writing "Eros and Civilization," which is intended as a synthesis of Marx with Freud and an attack on traditional morality in the tradition of other Marxists, most directly Wilhelm Reich. But it's all a conspiracy theory!

@marvin2678

2 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyodonnell8724 interesting

ok so your understanding of leninism, 'stalinism', and marxism-leninism is not very good my sir

@BlueTemplar15

4 жыл бұрын

You'll have to give us more than that...

@baaaldur

4 жыл бұрын

@@BlueTemplar15 i can give you more than that. olly's description of leninism is mostly correct, although it should be noted that marx was absolutely also for enforced societal change instead of "waiting around" for something to happen. other than that, though, olly gives a simplistic but mostly correct view of what leninism adds to marxism. his description of stalinism is a bunch of bollocks. it's your typical portrayal of stalin from western propaganda: this unrealistically ruthless, meat-headed dictator that killed millions and was oh-so very evil and without any coherent ideology. i honestly think this bit is a really sharp contrast to the rest of the video which is actually pretty informative. regardless of what you think of stalin, this bit is just cartoonish. in reality, there is no such thing as "stalinism". there are no self-identifying stalinists in the world and stalin certainly had no part in the creation of that term. stalin only ever identified himself as a marxist-leninist, something olly says he did to give it more legitimacy than other ideologies, which... what? i dont get this bit. how does olly infer this? as far as i know, marxism-leninism is called that for a very simple reason: it's a synthesis of the ideas of lenin and marx. same as marxism-leninism-maoism. so yeah, that part of the video is disappointing. just blatant misinformation, and i think anyone with an ounce of knowledge of these sects of leftism can agree even if they dislike lenin and stalin.

@penglkarp

3 жыл бұрын

@@baaaldur so... is the death toll of stalin,... fake? like the neo nazi holocaust deniers?

I like the way you said "basically"

Wow, this is better than school!

1:26 - Heh "fish" is a great example, since there's no such thing as a "fish" in (post?)modern taxonomy of biology.

Goddamn Trot!

Great video. I recommend you check out the How to Paint your Own Panda article and the rationalwiki article on Cultural Marxism if you haven't already. I don't think you addressed how people (mis)use it today or give your opinion on that usage. I've heard people associate it with three other terms: regressive left, moral relativism, and cultural relativism. Regressive left, as you know, meaning a group that follows liberal ideology but arrives at illiberal conclusions; normative moral relativism meaning the notion that no moral or ethical system is better or worse than the other and, as a consequence, all behaviour should be tolerated; cultural relativism being a term coined by Franz Boas, which people misuse to mean the equality of cultures (the cultural equivalent of moral relativism). Anyway, it seems to me that the constellation of ideas like this is integral to teaching people what the heck people are talking about when they say "cultural Marxism." I understand that there are time constraints in the making of a video, but it seems like you only addressed the term in a prescriptive manner at the exclusion of the descriptive approach, to borrow some grammar terminology. Cheers!

Olly, the Frankfurt school WAS linked to the 60's counter-culture. I live in germany where they where at that point and they were the inspiration for the students movement. They tried to stop them from being so extreme, but it was there ideas nonetheless. And their teachings ARE still important in sociology. Oh, an the idea that minorities are marginalized is from Herbert Marcuse. He thought marxists should focus on them because the should be more willing to fight the revolution.

@shanonsnyder9450

4 жыл бұрын

leopold wunderaug Right, Foucault was marching in the student protests even though he wasn’t FS per se’. The philosophical assertions of the French PMs and the FS were overtly political and should be judged as such. That gets lost in most clarifications of cultural Marxism.

The conspiracies are fucking ridiculous (not to mention laughable and entertaining), but I also think it would be worthwhile to give short but concise summaries of what the thinkers associated with the Frankfurt School actually said, and how far off their ideas were from traditional Marxism. For example, there is the fact that the Frankfurt School saw Soviet economism ("Stalinism") as being as much a product of the failure of the Enlightenment as capitalism and fascism.

@riskokrizkoslav1038

8 жыл бұрын

+Julia Riber Pitt I just destroyed his critique..go check my comment.

@juliaisafilmbuff123

8 жыл бұрын

Risko Krizkoslav Just asking, how familiar are you with the texts of the Frankfurt School? Have you read or studied them?

@riskokrizkoslav1038

8 жыл бұрын

Julia Riber Pitt Yes. Critical theory is a basically sociology with an aim to change. They question the fundamentals of social structure and of course an attempt at changing them.

@ynnekthennek7009

8 жыл бұрын

why did you quit the conversation? is it because you may have run into a person who knew what they were talking about, or does it take you 2 months to google the frankfurt school?

You should do a video on "political correctness"-on its own a nebulous term.

@ikendusnietjij2

8 жыл бұрын

+KayWhyz It's a quite effective way of dismissing someone's views without requiring arguments.

@KayWhyz

8 жыл бұрын

+Darckense Onoda Exactly!

@ikendusnietjij2

8 жыл бұрын

KayWhyz Especially terrible if done by people who claim to be so amazingly rational. But then their compliments are nothing more than name-calling.

@brundlefly

8 жыл бұрын

+Darckense Onoda Yep. It's a cheap rhetorical trick used by lazy people, insecure in their own positions.

@WashashoreProd

8 жыл бұрын

+KayWhyz The most fascinating thing about the term "political correctness" is how the people who throw it around aren't actually against political correctness as such; they just don't like that they don't get to decide who's correct.

why is the labour theory of value controversial?

Anyway, excellent video.

The analysis of Stalin was disappointing. not much food for thought and very misrepresentative.

Great series! I'm a Marxist-Leninist, and I don't agree with your critique of Stalin. Otherwise, very informative.

@swedemaoist6847

5 жыл бұрын

Mason B Ye it was quite mislead, this video is however 2 years old now and hopefully his mind has changed

This is the best video of the series

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

lol

I love this channel

So what sounded like a vague far right conspiracy theory WAS true after all.

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

@@burblegobble Well that's because these sick pieces of shit are satanists...

i noticed how everything you mentioned that had been attributed to marxism were things which you agreed with. and how everypony you mentioned who used the term "cultural marxism" were people you disagreed with. im not sure how i feel about this, but it seems biased tbh. and since it seems you are biased i am not inclined to believe you. so i may have to research if i want to know the truth.

@the1exnay

8 жыл бұрын

though i guess it doesnt change the point of the video in that cultural marxism is used to describe such a wide range of ideas (no matter what those ideas are). personally i hadnt understood the term so i had never used it. and now i know why i never managed to gain a grip on what it meant from context if it meant such a wide range of things.

ut as poverty is a extreme tragedy. Which ways can eradicate it including the relative poverty class please?

The "Cultural Marxism" conspiracy theory was premiered at a Holocaust Denial conference put on by Willis Carto at The Barnes Review (an antisemitic magazine). The talk given was paid for by The Free Congress Foundation - who also feature Laszlo Pasztor (an "Arrow Cross Party" collaborator for the Nazis, who was stations in Berlin during WW2). Also, if you read Adorno's essay "On The Problem of Family" it's very clear The Frankfurt School never attacked the family, nor did they attack Religion (they were after all, Jewish). So there's a lot of conservative clap trap people get sucked into.

Good show of using critical theory in an example :^)

I think this was a really good video, coming from somebody who strongly opposes Marxism. I think your description of cultural Marxism was largely accurate, however there is one other angle that I wish you had mentioned. As previously established, this (highly simplified for the sake of brevity) idea of "proletariat vs bourgeoisie" or "the oppressed having a revolution against the oppressors" originally made the argument along class lines. CULTURAL Marxism can be seen as, simply put, an analogous re-statement of Marxism along cultural lines, rather than class lines. So cultural Marxists are cultural relativists (i.e. it is not the case that some cultures are superior to others), and seek the revolutionary overthrow of the perceived "oppressor culture" (western civilization) by the "oppressed culture" - generally an amalgamation of historically marginalized cultures (ethnic minority cultures, homosexual cultures, etc). I think this description gets to the heart of what most of those using "cultural Marxism" pejoratively are really getting at, despite its nebulous definition.

@WashashoreProd

8 жыл бұрын

+notforwantoftrying1 That makes sense as far as I can follow it, but it's still a massive, massive strawman.

THANK YOU!

Good job

The Wikipedia editor who deleted the page on Cultural Marxism and redirected it to a conspiracy page said he self-identifies as a Marxist. Isn't that a bit of a give-away?

@GearyDigit

8 жыл бұрын

And it wasn't overruled by other editors because the decision was correct, regardless of the original editor's personal views.

@ParticleJesus

8 жыл бұрын

Geary _"Because it was correct"_ = _"Because it agreed with my Marxist interpretation of the world that most of the high ranking opinion formers in society conformed to, which somehow, does not prove the initial claims of 'cultural marxism' having taken over in the slightest"_

@mehname8597

6 жыл бұрын

Somebody might say they are a Marxist and still get it wrong.

@petepetersen5418

5 жыл бұрын

Cultural marxism actually doesn't mean anything (at least not to sociologists). They already have a word for it: Cultural Homogenisation. It means the exact same thing, except they see it as natural development in a globalising world.. The people who don't agree with it, call it: Cultural Marxism.. They call it Marxism because it sounds scary.. Basically they just made up a whole new name for a term that already existed.

Your critique of Lenin and Stalin are off some. Perhaps do some more research on those revolutionary individuals...

@latvysh8486

5 жыл бұрын

The Absurd immediately what I thought as well

@sleepy0

5 жыл бұрын

agreed 100%

I'm a little disappointed that this video wasn't actually about applying marxist ideas to textual criticism.

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+Alex Savvinos If that's something you're interested in then @TheLitCritGuy is definitely your man, he's awesome.

Philosophy Tube Just a little nit pick on the Leninism vs Stalinism, or maybe a question. Did Lenin argue for socialism to be enforced by a vanguard party? I think this is like his policy late in the revolution leading up to the rise of Stalinism. However I thought I read that his idea was more like the party holds power till the revolution spreads internationally. Because Lenin and the bolsheviks (at least before Stalinism took over) were for power to the soviets right? So my question is, did Lenin's idea of the party, see that party taking power to enforce socialism, or was it that the party holds hands with workers till they take power. Because it doesn't seem right and flies in the face Marx's ideas that the working class needs to be reformed into socialism by a minority dictating the change to socialism, that don't sound right. Marx didn't think you could have a workers state if it wasn't run democratically by workers, and even said something along the lines of "just calling a state a workers state doesn't make one" it needed to be democratically run by workers. So did Lenin think that you could have the party act as the state to enforce socialism? anyway I ask because Lenin is a contested figure, and I think this makes the history hard to dissect. Besides that your videos are great. By the way there is a really good story about Stalin and his use of Marx. The Dialectic is really important to orthodox Marxism, and Stalin was accused many times of not understanding it. the story goes that one day he was cornered by his opponents, and asked to explain the dialectic. Stalin reached into a draw and pulled out a pistol staying "this comrades, is the dialectic".

Why people find "communism/Marxism" appealing?? It is such a hollow philosophy

@robinchetan8

4 жыл бұрын

KingintheMountain still in capitalist countries there r some ppl who find it attractive

@robinchetan8

4 жыл бұрын

KingintheMountain how?? Their economies r much better than the communist models

@robinchetan8

4 жыл бұрын

KingintheMountain freedom? Human rights? In capitalist countries r Much much better than the communist regimes

@robinchetan8

4 жыл бұрын

KingintheMountain talk about present.

@robinchetan8

4 жыл бұрын

@KingintheMountain name any successful model of communism? close to some successful capitalist model

Alt right boogeyman here. Im using occult magicks to summon the Nazis again OoOoOoooohhh

@nordfreiheit

8 жыл бұрын

+KokaKolaKan But that's how you all perceive Marxism lmao

@armanm246

8 жыл бұрын

*irony intensifies*

I always knew people who use that term were making shit up.

If the modem idea of groups divided by social advantages should be called cultural Marxism because it's a class theory based on culture, then what should we call the idea of alpha/beta groups divided by masculinity? Sexual Marxism?

"Wow I'm a Marxist" is words I never though I'd catch My self saying Days without Injury: 0

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

sucks to be you, they shoot you first.

First ! (GONE SEXUAAAAAAL!!!!)

@MessiahofFire

8 жыл бұрын

(With Hott Girls!!!1!!!11!) (Gone Wild) (2016) (In the Hood) (Nearly Buttraped)

What would a virtual reality (not unlike the Book "Ready player one." ) market most likely (considering histories previous mistakes) be like? Would it help? Could this be what it all come to? A Universal globalization. Could that come from it? A peacefully one world utopia? Or would it become a disaster? Would it come from a disaster or is there a way we could help the planet and the world as a whole by.. Plugging in?

I've seen the term cultural Marxism used inconsistently too, but I've found one thread that ties much of it together, and which also links it to Marxism. By Marxism I understand the idea that our belief systems are determined by material-economic conditions, and for many people this means that the beliefs they have serve their class interests. But because this isn't true for all people, since many are still taken in by beliefs that do not serve their class interests- which is thought to be especially true of the "classless" and upwardly-hopeful American populace- Cultural Marxism is the program to short-circuit the economic logic of Marxism in order to instead challenge these ideas (false consciousness in the jargon) directly, with cultural qua intellectual tools.

In my country, Venezuela, the current government has been very influenced by a so called "marxism hegelianism" from italian Antionio Gramsci and hungarian Georg Lukács which believes that the revolution doesn't start from changes in technology but from the awakening of a "social conscience" by an elite, like it happened in the soviet union, Cuba, China, and so on. I think the term is just funny since marxism IS hegelianism in structure, and also from personal experience let me tell you guys that this is shit, marxisms are persuasive but are inherently corrupt with terrible consequences if applied to a country.

@Dukenville

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniella Muñoz if marxism is so, then does that mean libertarianism is the way to go?

@daniellamunoz8894

8 жыл бұрын

+Dukenville i think you are proposing a false dichotomy, and libertarianism is an extreme. Personally I am more inclined to political liberalisms of John Rawls in a philosophical stand point, which is completely different of from Libertarianisms like Robert Nozick's which I presume is the type you are refering to

@PhilosophyTube

8 жыл бұрын

+Seth Apex Hah, this reminded me of something called "The Hegel Boy Question" twitter.com/hps_vanessa/status/436603574945325056

@WashashoreProd

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniella Muñoz I wouldn't use the term "corrupt" to describe state Marxism, although it certainly seems to enable corruption when practiced in an inflexible form. "Broken" would be a better word. Sticking too close to principle while ignoring outside effects is a common problem in politics -- Libertarians are generally no better. I find it fascinating that people have chosen to focus on Saul Alinsky as a left-wing boogeyman -- I actually sat down and read the original "Rules for Radicals" list and a lot of left-wingers have a frustrating tendency to do exactly the opposite of what he suggested when it comes to protest. I haven't read his whole book, but I get the sense he was a guy who would have looked very poorly on people who let principle interfere with the effectiveness of their cause. He'd hate Richard Stallman, for example.

@daniellamunoz8894

8 жыл бұрын

WashashoreProd Yeah sorry about that, perhaps you are right about my wording. Yeah exactly one of the worst problems about marxists statisms (or any idiology if you are a radical) is what you are saying about sticking too much to their principles and not being able to face reality. I wouldn´t know about this Alinsky, I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks!

So, we can dismiss it entirely by way of guilt by association.. Wow, as a philosopher you fail.

I'm no Stalinist but I think you need to invest some time into learning where those "millions of deaths" came from. A majority of that was just nonsensical propaganda from a book funded by the CIA, which BTW, many of the writers later came out and said was bullshit. Just sayin...

@EQOAnostalgia

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah no... its extremely well documented what Ole Uncle Joe the scumbag was up to. He murdered many more than the Nazi's. MANY more.

You forgot to mention who came up with the term "political correctness"