"You cannot compute the power of my will" god damn what a good line.

this series would have to be called: "What if Tony Stark died in each universe?"

@mr.raphael1507

2 жыл бұрын

It sort of explains how him being alive is the reason the main reality was saved At least for now…

@tracerjames51

2 жыл бұрын

The creator actually commented “We accidentally made Tony Stark the Kenny of What If”

@enzoponce1881

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracerjames51 LMAO

@ariyansingh3108

2 жыл бұрын

Makes us grateful that he survived this long in the main sacred timeline, still died but atelast it was due to sacrifice saving his universe.

@atb1953

2 жыл бұрын

It gets funnier each time honestly.

“Dr strange looks more calm now.” Well, he did absorb his other “good” half at the end of his episode. So I guess that would help dilute some of the crazy evilness of the original dark Dr Strange.

@beyondtrash1627

2 жыл бұрын

And the dark strange realized the error of his ways at the end of the episode.

@GamerTheShy

2 жыл бұрын

Plus it might’ve been a while in his time since his episode

@TehIdiotOne

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamerTheShy Could be practically an eternity

@nakachinjah7240

2 жыл бұрын

maybe he learns how to control them , since he had nothing but time inside that universe, he even said sorry at them last episode

@puncake8047

2 жыл бұрын

Your all correct he can now controll his powers

Imagine the next episode title being: "What If... The Watcher intervened?"

@qwertyuiop22ful

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@thantus9315

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking "No More What Ifs", as in time to take action instead of just hypotheticals. But I liked your title much better.

@ariyansingh3108

2 жыл бұрын

I mean he intervened in this episode so I don't think they'll call the next one that

@helpmefixthis9117

2 жыл бұрын

Or how about we get a bunch of infinity stone sets together And give a set to all be heroes That can carry them ...Skies the limit now ..Since that celestial rule is out the window

@shadowrev2914

2 жыл бұрын

@@thantus9315 But these are all canon so it's not hypothetical.

“Peace in our time”… that’s what Tony said when he created Ultron. Also, it’s pretty cool to see the Watcher throw down like this.

@jonatassilva2605

2 жыл бұрын

A cuttin line if there ever was one imo.

@klevianrika2039

2 жыл бұрын

There can not be peace , never . So the solution is to destroy everything and so then you can have peace

@klevianrika2039

2 жыл бұрын

@RE Movie Clips but he is right ... even kf two humans are still alive , still they will fight each other ... Ultron wants to end caos but its imposible without destroying life

@klevianrika2039

2 жыл бұрын

@RE Movie Clips are you a ultron fan ?

@klevianrika2039

2 жыл бұрын

@RE Movie Clips tell me how happy are you to see your favorute character back again on top where he deserves and you know that he is still alive in the MCU

Eric is the only reactor I've seen catch that Captain Marvel wouldn't know about T2. That's why I love you guys.

@acard2463

2 жыл бұрын

T2 was released on 1991 and Captain Marvel on 1995. She didn’t see the bad ones.

@ShizuruNakatsu

2 жыл бұрын

@@acard2463 She left Earth in 1989, and came back in 1995 but didn't stay for long and probably wasn't there to catch up on the movies she missed. So at the time she first left Earth, only the original was out.

@wolfman99913300

2 жыл бұрын

She didn’t see it and yet she still tries to melt the robot somewhere hot (the core of the planet) like the foundry at the end of T2.

@TheGoauldApophis

2 жыл бұрын

@@wolfman99913300 Omg! Yes!

@LtCatscratch

2 жыл бұрын

which captain marvel thou ? this show is about what ifs and maybe this one came back earlier and caught up.

The whole “infinity stones only work in their own universes” thing is a comics thing that the MCU is apparently changing. In Loki that was a theory for why they didn’t work in the TVA but Loki’s actual wording more implied that there was something about the TVA itself that was directly stopping the stones from working. Presumably Kang didn’t want the stones to threaten him so he designed the TVA to negate their powers.

@ZealStarMedia

2 жыл бұрын

What I’m wondering is, did no one else get the infinity gems until this point? If having the gems means you can alter the entire multiverse, why did the Watcher seem surprised that Ultron could see him and brake out? Theoretically this should have happened in infinite universes.

@BlueWoWTaylan

2 жыл бұрын

There is nothing can they negate their powers though. That was the whole reason why they not working on other universes is the key point about them, so they are balanced that way. If they work on ANY universe across the Multiverse, there is no stopping ANY villain from just using them and jumping to another universe and doing the same with no issue.

@redux_m8634

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZealStarMedia I don’t think the stones themselves let you peer through and see other universes. In the episode, the Watcher says that Ultron ascends to another plane of consciousness after staying in the dead silence of his universe. With literally nothing happening, he was able to hear the Watcher. Not sure though.

@alecczar8680

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I always thought the stones don’t work because that universe was pruned/deleted meaning no universe=stones have no power

@campbell91988

2 жыл бұрын

@@redux_m8634 Also worth noting they already implied pure power/otherworldliness could let you perceive the Watcher in the Doctor Strange episode. He was able to do it even prior to gaining full power.

Eric humming the theme after hearing “Agents of Shield” was amazing.

@xmatobujnakx

2 жыл бұрын

well he is agent too

@WhoDoYouKnow03

2 жыл бұрын

I love any Agents of Shield reference whether it be from the Marvel show/movie they are watching, or the guys referencing AoS in their reaction

@multiverse_media2023

2 жыл бұрын

They had a theme song?

@feloven

2 жыл бұрын

@@multiverse_media2023 they do

@lucysteel2686

2 жыл бұрын

@@multiverse_media2023 bruh

"The others laughed when I said I was making a USB arrow. Stark thought it'd never work, Banner said there'd never be a use for it, and Thor... well, Thor just laughed along, I don't think he knew what a USB even was. "Well, WHO'S LAUGHING NOW?! HAHAHAHA... haha... we're so screwed."

@hawkins347

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, he's used USB arrow in the first Avengers and it was super effective.

@TheWaderick

2 жыл бұрын

@@hawkins347 Damn, been too long since I watched that.

I think this is what a live-action Age of Ultron that tries to emulate the spirit of the comic would definitely look like. I do understand why the MCU wouldn’t go this way because it is the “mainline” live-action universe so it’s difficult to make stories with drastic consequences like the AoU comic, outside of universe-shattering events like Infinity War and Endgame. That’s the beauty of What If stories because we get to eat our cake and have it again all at once.

@W0NK042

2 жыл бұрын

Or get to eat the same piece of cake twice. 😉

@ALJ9000

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, if we start thinking that way, we start to think that way about other things too

@emperorchimichanga8193

Жыл бұрын

Imo Ultron SHOULD be an Infinity War type threat, not a villain of the month.

Galactus: I devour _planets_ Infinite Ultron: That's cute. *Takes a bite out of an entire galaxy*

@mageeaaron2624

2 жыл бұрын

I know right lol

@multiverse_media2023

2 жыл бұрын

Galaxy Nom Nom?

@RedHeadKevin

2 жыл бұрын

OH God... What if they're introducing MCU Galactus here? What if they're changing his origin to be Ultron-Vision with Infinity Stones?

@petesthename1588

2 жыл бұрын

Most copy pasted comments in all of the videos to do with this episode. Under every comment section

@multiverse_media2023

2 жыл бұрын

@Ricardo Alonso Rojas Galaxy NOM NOM! **bites the entire galaxy**

8:49 “She’s pretty strong!” “But she won’t last long.” Pure poetry.

@ShizuruNakatsu

2 жыл бұрын

"Look at her fly!" "She's going to die..."

@Commander_Shepard.

2 жыл бұрын

"Hehe That's what she told."

Dr Strange absorbed his “good” half at the end of that episode so that would explain why he acted a bit differently.

@azrael_morningstar

2 жыл бұрын

Also however long he stayed in that cube after christines death probably changed him more.

@Cometstarlight

2 жыл бұрын

@@azrael_morningstar yeah, he was torn UP at the end of that episode. Probably had a lot of time to think and ponder just how terrible his actions were.

The Galactus homage was absolutely amazing

@Film_Addict

2 жыл бұрын

@@seventycross0yt175 Yes hopefully 🤞🏽

Easily the best episode yet. Even tho Ultron’s original voice actor wasn’t voicing him in this and his armor didn’t look more like his AOU design I still love it. Ultron is my favorite Avengers villain and I love to see him again and even more powerful (Loki was good villain, Thanos was really awesome villain but Ultron was my favorite and I’am sad we didn’t get his full potencial in the movie).

@lewanbroski504

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao is was red skull vocing him I think

@helpmefixthis9117

2 жыл бұрын

easily not the best Episode..

@lewanbroski504

2 жыл бұрын

@@helpmefixthis9117 it's based on opinion an if that's your so be it

@rodrigofoli

2 жыл бұрын

I think episode 4 is still the best. But this one was amazinh as well

@ChrisInScotland

2 жыл бұрын

The what if Doctor strange lost his heart was the best one so far, thought this was just ok. Weird ending…

Who would've thought that the episodes would actually connect.

@BlessedmanPlaysMC

2 жыл бұрын

Exact reason why we love marvel

@CrypticlyEncrypted

2 жыл бұрын

Grimlock

@thewerewolff7248

2 жыл бұрын

anyone who watched the trailers...

@Ztheepicgamer

2 жыл бұрын

Literally everyone

@ariyansingh3108

2 жыл бұрын

Well actually alot of people... They literally showed the gaurdians of the multiverse team in the trailers and also the merchandise shows the team together.

I keep popping into the various reactions to this episode mainly for people's reactions to Thanos being cut in half like some nobody when the MCU built him up like he was the biggest threat in the known universe. Reminds me of Thanos going up to Doom in Secret Wars 2015 like "you think you can beat the Mad Titan?" and Doom's like "yeah, I do" and just rips out his spine.

@StopReadingMyNameOrElse

2 жыл бұрын

Also shows how much Vision holds back when he laser beams.

@tylongkicks8821

2 жыл бұрын

This reminds of that

@zackrose6261

2 жыл бұрын

@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse Yea, vision is one not a genocidal robot and 2 wasn't he weakened as well? And 3 thanos was prepared for vision to some extent.

@mox9076

2 жыл бұрын

Likewise. The batlles.

@Pir-o

2 жыл бұрын

@@zackrose6261 still don't make sense why would he "hold back" while fighting Thanos in the movies. Nothing suggest he was weakened enough to not use his regular powers. And how could he even be weakened by previous fights ? Why didn't he cut all of his previous opponents in half when he was trying to save Wanda? Doesn't make much sense. But thats not even the biggest issue with What If stories. My biggest complain was about Black Panther still calling himself "Star Lord" since that was a nickname given to Peter when he was a kid. Him calling himself the same way dosn't make sense in the universe

Anyone else noticed how Uatu was about to say “He became aware of The Watcher.” before realizing what he was saying, and that Ultron could see him.

He is no longer The Watcher, but now The “Watch Your Damn Mouth or You’ll Be Watching These Hands Beat Your Ass”er

@DjBlinkBlink

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

“You cannot compute the power of my will” was such a good line this was definitely the best episode overall imo

A team of Doctor Strange, The Watcher, and Wanda fighting this Ultron would be an insane fight to see.

@fightingfaerie

2 жыл бұрын

Grab Cap Marvel, and a surviving Vision if you can find one, and you've basically almost got your own team of Infinity Stones

@justcurious2439

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta have a multiverse Hulk, he's the strongest avenger

@nicoblac9368

2 жыл бұрын

@@justcurious2439 No

@gkay8889

2 жыл бұрын

@@justcurious2439 hulk not even top 10

@badkarma5408

2 жыл бұрын

Dormmamu would being interesting.

This seems like a taste of the battle’s we’re about to get. A god faces a multiverse threat.

As far as I know the “infinity stones only work in their original universe” rule, is only in the comics. In the MCU TVA I think they just have something stopping them. But also it’s never been really said inside the MCU, so the comic rules could be real for this or they could be different. And the MCU and Comic Multiverse could just be separate multiverses.

@digitalfantasies4570

2 жыл бұрын

I always thought they didnt work in the TVA because the universes the stones are from are pruned and no longer exist, so the stones cant use universal power from a universe that doesnt exist. Making them nothing more then jewelry

@-libertyprimev1-902

2 жыл бұрын

Thing is the MCU is a Universe in the Comic Multiverse with it's own designation and everything, though I think I know what they're doing here that would keep this all working. The all the Events in MCU (Loki/Wandavision/What If/No Way Home/Multiverse of Madness) isn't creating a Multiverse, they're creating an Omniverse. Simply put the MCU Universe is becoming a Multiverse In A Multiverse, and This would also explain how Ultron's Infinity Stones were working outside of what we thought was his Universe. He would technically still be in the MCU Universe but with it now piled on top of itself as a Multiverse, having Perfect Copies of The MCU's Infinity Stones in each Splinter Universe.

@Jo_ovie

2 жыл бұрын

@@-libertyprimev1-902 Maked sense if you think of each "MEGA UNIVERSE" as a tree and each branch of the tree is a universe of that multiverse but the entire forest is made out of an infinite amount of those trees.

@-libertyprimev1-902

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jo_ovie yep that's the idea of an Omniverse, the Collection of Every Single Concept for that particular Story or Thought Process.

@pablomenendez2319

2 жыл бұрын

Alternate timelines and alternate universes aren't the same thing.

It’s amazing how Marvel spent a decade building up Thanos as this massive threat & in a short span after Endgame we’ve gotten Scarlett Witch, Kang, Sorcerer Supreme & now Ultron as potentially way bigger threats in the MCU. Marvel’s like you all thought Thanos was a problem, nah, just wait we have bigger problems ahead… 😂 😂 😂

@TehIdiotOne

2 жыл бұрын

There's always a bigger fish...

@thebarbarianninja4152

2 жыл бұрын

@@TehIdiotOne We are going to need a bigger boat

@alishozab4898

2 жыл бұрын

Really he still is the strongest. Everything doesn't make sense in what if for example Ultron beam isn't that powerful to just cut thanos in half

@camburger8263

2 жыл бұрын

@@alishozab4898 There is a reason in Infinity War that Thanos waited to go to Earth. He sent his minions to neutralize the mind stone first because that one stone is the most threat to him. And, there's a reason Ultron with all 6 stones is more dangerous than Thanos with all 6 stones, as shown in this episode. Thanos ended at half the universe. Ultron went for all the multiverse. Sinister Strange as well, because he destroyed an entire universe and became aware of the watcher, and Kang because he's a threat to all of the timelines. Haven't seen Wandavision so I;m not entirely sure on Scarlet Witch, but she is still super powerful (You took everything from me)

Best episode. Period. Even though this is only the penultimate episode. This is the culmination of where the Multiverse truly erupts. The barriers in-between paralleled splintered universes have been broken by the Watcher and Infinity Visions' battle. Causing time structures within those realities to alter and morph. And this is only a glimpse as to whats to come. No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, Eternals and everything that'll follow can not get here soon enough....

@Phanthief95

2 жыл бұрын

For me, what kept the episode from being great was the large amount of continuity errors that it had.

@ariyansingh3108

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh my favourite one is still the t'challa star Lord episode but it seems everyone has their different favourites. The top ones I've seen are zombies, star Lord episode, Dr strange episode and this one

@atb1953

2 жыл бұрын

I still think the Dr Strange episode was better

@helpmefixthis9117

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phanthief95 Pretty big ones too...For that it failed big time. But still had some cool action... My favorite part was definitely Ultron calling out the watcher telling him he's creepy

@BlueWoWTaylan

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phanthief95 Pretty big ones that kinda takes away from the story for me. It ruins a lot of grander lore and rules set. I mean what, Marvel have 2 multiverses now? Where rules are different at both? And somehow they can still connect? Makes no sense.

Eric humming the theme song to Agents of Shield when Zola popped up onscreen did put a smile on my face

Every episode that has Strange Supreme have been the best so far.

"He Galactused it" funniest shit I've ever heard.

Loki Season 2 HAS to clarify that the stones work in any universe, they only don't work in the TVA. So many people have the wrong idea about how the stones work just because the rules are different in the comics.

@W0NK042

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@DromeG60

2 жыл бұрын

Only a very very small minority of people watching this show have actually read the comics. And those people who have read the comics should also be able to look into the MCU rules enough to know the difference. Your average Joe and the other 99% of the rest of the population won’t need an explanation like that.

@UltimateQball

2 жыл бұрын

Nah they its clear now that the stones work in any universe, but doesn't work in certain Dimensions.

@morgand.3809

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see why Loki S2 would touch that subject unless the stones become relevant to the plot of that story, which seems unlikely. And I agree with others who commented that it's mostly the comic readers who are having trouble with the distinction.

@RangoVidsOfMangoO12

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a huge comic book reader and even I was confused why the stones were working. Thanks for clarifying!

I do find it odd that everyone just kind of went along with "the stones only work in their universe" but I don't remember any dialogue in Loki confirming this. I think it was just to show that the stones don't work period inside the TVA because it is so powerful

@pfc_church

2 жыл бұрын

its more that the stones didnt work in a place outside of space and time combined with the explanation of how the stones in the mcu work and origin. When we also take into account why comics have this rule the bigger the problem becomes. Marvel comics made this a rule in the council of reeds because the end result of multiverse content is someone is going to use stones against someone with stones. what happens when two stone wielders snap each other. its paradoxical. its like what happened to supreme strange universe but the multiverse. TVA is just a pocket universe outside space time or removed from space and time. Magic is used at episode 6 35:33 so its not like magic can not be used at all outside of time and space. The cannon answer to the stones not working in the TVA is the marvel rule of working in their own universe. MCU going down the same multiverse road content they dont want 2 kangs trying to snap each other or other universes away.

@chaos2inferno

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's from the comics.

@taewiz863

2 жыл бұрын

In the comics the stones don’t work anywhere else except their respective universes. That’s where the idea came from. Loki hinted at it, but never directly said it. But this episode contradicts the comics and lokis show.

@TehIdiotOne

2 жыл бұрын

Might be a bit of a paradox, but considering "good" Kang's pretty much godlike power, what's to say that he couldn't have used a set of infinity stones to make infinity stones useless while inside the TVA. Kinda like how Thanos used the infinity stones to destroy them.

@jonasquinn7977

2 жыл бұрын

@Tae Wiz it doesn’t contradict anything, all Loki established was that the Infinity Stones don’t work in the TVA and them not working in other realities is entirely an assumption made off of the comics

The Watcher is the Nick Fury of the Multiverse. Can't wait to see Multiverse Avengers.

I think this Ultron Vision is the Ultimate OP. Imagine this character in the MCU... No more phase 4,5, etc. Best episode so far!

@RufusNasedo

2 жыл бұрын

This Ultron is in the MCU! What If...? is canon. They will find a way in this show to stop him either next episode or in a 2nd season. Marvel is showing us all the variations how the multiverse is used in the MCU right now with WandaVision, What If...?, No Way Home and Loki. I'm also very positive we will see the Watcher in life action one day.

@Captianmex1C0

2 жыл бұрын

@@RufusNasedo there's only 1 Multiverse, beyond that they can't do much as the "Omniverse" includes everything from SpongeBob to DC, To Brazzers, To The gold fish commercials.

@DromeG60

2 жыл бұрын

@@RufusNasedo the watchers are in Stan Lee’s cameo in Guardians of the Galaxy

@DromeG60

2 жыл бұрын

It is in the MCU

@RufusNasedo

2 жыл бұрын

@@DromeG60 I meant particularly this Watcher. I won't call him Uatu just yet until his name is confirmed in the show. Played or voiced if CGI by Jeffrey Wright.

This was the best episode by far. Still shocked with how deep they dove into it. That cliffhanger might lead to something crazy.

"Were they looking for O.J.?"~Rick I fucking lost it...

I have seen "What If... The Watcher intervened?" but "What If... I intervened?" its so much better

What an amazing episode. This is why they wanted to do this show. Every big fight they do is so cool and creative, and people were worried for the type of animation

So many cool shots in this episode. Plus that Ultron and Watcher fight was awesome.

@Narwhyn

2 жыл бұрын

Totally badass. However I find it dumb that the Infinity Stones are more powerful then him.

@anzeigefehler6495

2 жыл бұрын

@@Narwhyn the stones with ultron ki are stronger than him...

@Narwhyn

2 жыл бұрын

@@anzeigefehler6495 That's what I said.

Next episode, we need to see Ultron narrate the intro with a red tint on the screen.

@GamerTheShy

2 жыл бұрын

That’ll be awsome

@jonasferrao

2 жыл бұрын

lol ultrons not gonna narrate he'll try breaking the fourth wall to get to us

@cleanercomet8455

2 жыл бұрын

He's gonna wanna break thru our television and destroy us lmao

@jonasferrao

2 жыл бұрын

@@cleanercomet8455 the crazy thing is according to the multiverse theory there could be a real ultron out there in another universe

That shot of Hawkeye falling into the army of robots reminded me of Aquaman diving when the trench people attacked him in the boat.

"We just happened to have someone in our trunk when we got pulled over that time. Unrelated" These are the kind of stories I love about people, man. I treasure this.

Longshot theory, but maybe we're seeing how the rule/limitation that the infinity stones don't work outside of their timeline came to be? My idea is that they currently work across all timelines because all of those timelines branched from the same sacred timeline- just like the stones the Avengers took in the Time Heist worked when they brought them back to the "main" timeline. Seeing the potential multiversal threat posed by the Infinity Stones, the Watchers decide to intervene by making the stones become inert outside of their universe of origin. I dunno, just thought that might be cool to see.

@ObligedUniform

2 жыл бұрын

That could definitely be it. My backup theory is that Kang will be the one to do so behind the scenes, in effect placing a similar effect upon the infinity stones as he had on the ones within the bounds of the TVA. So as a means to negate any potential rivals claiming the stones and using them against him, from any reality. Because of course 'normal' mortals certainly could NEVER prove a threat to him all by themselves *wink wink*

@MagicCardboardBox

2 жыл бұрын

I hope they do that now, that limitation really helps stop a shite-tonne of universe level (minimum) reality benders from fucking up the multiverse constantly.

@mysredeyes

2 жыл бұрын

@@ObligedUniform Mine is similar to yours. Let's keep in mind that Nathanial Richards is a distillation of a brilliant family line and as Kang he's also a control freak with time.

@jonasquinn7977

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s more likely that the MCU just isn’t going to have their versions of the stones have that limitation

I have to say this is the only reaction channel I know that has intellectual conversations after the reaction. I was genuinely intrigued by your guys conversations. I have to say Ultron is a very interesting villian who was not explored properly in Age of Ultron. He was made as a peace keeping initiative but he sees that peace can only be achieved if without humans. His motives seems very different than a typical villian.

What if we called ourselves “The Normies”😂😂💀🙌

@joseac2332

2 жыл бұрын

When did they say that?

@NakidMan9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@joseac2332 I forgot when but I think when they was reviewing the episode

@joseac2332

2 жыл бұрын

@@NakidMan9000 thanks man

I feel like now that we know how absurdly powerful the infinity stones are, Thanos wasn't such a bad guy after all.

This has to be the best episode in What If!! It was dark, emotional etc. Most satisfying!!! 🙏🏽🙌💪

My favourite part of this episode is when Ultron punches The Watcher through the multiverse right into Mustafar.

I like that Rick mentioned Kang a few times. Doctor Strange absorbing knowledge and information to the point he was aware of entities higher than his reality & realm and gain knowledge of manipulating time, and Infinity-Ultron updating to a powerful level of consciousness that it was able to become self-aware to the point that it understood that it existed in one universe of many... all have bits that reminded me of the intellect and genius of He Who Remains becoming who he is.

Great episode, great reaction. Are you guys going to do Squid Game? You should! it's amazing.

@jasonisom6804

2 жыл бұрын

I heard it’s good but they probably won’t Bc it’s not in english and most of there reaction they try to do in english

@jasonisom6804

2 жыл бұрын

But never say never

@adrianmagnesen1836

2 жыл бұрын

Wow you must be watching in super speed if you already know their reaction is to the episode is great

@Phanthief95

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonisom6804 There’s an English dub.

@jasonisom6804

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phanthief95 didn’t know that

When you talk about ultron attaining another level of consciousness, i don’t think it was cause he got all the stones, but because he was by himself for sometime, complete silence with no white noise, at least that’s how i interpreted it

Ah yes, watching one of my favorite reaction groups watching one of my favorite Marvel villains. So satisfying.

I got full body chills. The build up to this moment over the series is amazing, I personally as a viewer and most people I would think am comforted when the “narrator” is talking or what not and throughout the whole series the watcher is perceived as indestructible and unreachable so having this moment right after we see ultron destroy and murder all of a universe showing how powerful he is. When I saw ultrons body language shift right when the watcher was in the middle of talking like he usually does, and then speaking directly to him. Amazing. Also “I see you” so scary it’s awesome

For anyone (equally) confused by the whole “Infinity Stones only work within their own universe”. In the comics it’s established that Infinity stones only work on their own universe, and different universes because they have their own sets. Now I’m not sure if Ultron in this episode is affecting alternate universes, or alternate timelines. All the episodes we’ve seen so far seem to be directly branched from the sacred Timeline, rather than completely different realities. Loki (the show) seems to imply that different universes have different TVAs that manage their own sacred timelines, which is why Mobius didn’t know about Alligator Loki, he was pruned by a different TVA (maybe, this is all guess work). So either the MCU infinity stones work completely differently to the Comic ones, or they work the same, the MCU has just been using timelines and universes interchangeably.

@drudle

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible each universe had its own TVA. But that implies multiple versions of the sacred timeline, as the TVA existed within the timeline itself (and the citadel being the only location outside). And that's not what we really know about it.

@ZealStarMedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@drudle Well we know there is a sacred timeline with an alligator Loki, and a female Loki, and a black Loki, so there must be more than one. The question is whether each universe has one, or if there’s one for all of them (Mobius seems to imply there is, but my assumption could be wrong).

@drudle

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZealStarMedia Those aren't part of the sacred timeline. Those were pruned. The singular TVA pruned alternate realities. There being multiple versions of the TVA is implied deviant versions of .. everything, which is what the TVA was actively culling.

@ZealStarMedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@drudle That’s what I’m saying, some of the pruned realities where clearly because they were branching off the sacred timeline (president Loki, future Loki, kid Loki) however some of the Loki’s had nothing to do with the sacred timeline (Gator Loki, Female Loki, Black Loki) and where seemingly from a completely different “line” or universe, one where Loki is always a girl, or always an alligator. Either there’s a TVA for every universe, or a single TVA for all of them and Mobius didn’t know (they’ve been lied to a lot, maybe they’ve just been told there’s only one TVA and one sacred timeline).

@jonasquinn7977

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s safe to say that the MCU Stones just don’t work that way, it’s the simplest explanation and doesn’t require them to do any extra work to explain the whole situation to the loads of people who never assumed they worked the same as the comics Plus it’s very unlikely the Stones will be important enough in the mainline MCU in the future to be worth explaining

Loved this ep! The Strange reveal was so hype too!

Been waiting all day for you guys to upload your reaction! Incredible episode!

Always my go too reactors for marvel stuff! Can’t wait for my finale! Keep up the good work!

Thanos has the soul stone but Gamora is still alive so what did he sacrifice? His chair of course!(I hope someone gets my reference)

@thewerewolff7248

2 жыл бұрын

solid theory. checks out.

@johnyshadow

2 жыл бұрын

The Thanoscopter maybe?

@ariyansingh3108

2 жыл бұрын

Probably in this universe he might've loved nebula more than gamora or perhaps the stone had different requirements in this universe as opposed to the soul for a soul sacrifice

@simperorbubba_link8441

2 жыл бұрын

How do we know gamora is still alive?

@thewerewolff7248

2 жыл бұрын

@@simperorbubba_link8441 She was shown with star Lord and drax when ultron attack his universe’s sovereign.

A true hero not always win but is always willing to give their life to save the universe. That’s the BEST part of Captain Marvel!! Ultron had to use an incredible amount of power and destroy worlds to stop her! Proud! That fearless spirit! Willing to sacrifice herlsef is SO CAROL!!

I love your channel keep up the great stuff

Been waiting all day for y'all reaction

The infinity stones probably work where ever except for the TVA. You could use it any where else. This isn’t comics this is another medium. The TVA is the only place where the stones where stated not to work.

@azrael_morningstar

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah cus its outside the multiverse not inside. Perhaps this multiverse is not separate universes but just alternative versions from 1 universe.

The corridor where The Watcher was, reminds me to the Tesseract of Interstellar, similar concepts where you can see everything happening to the timeline but using gravity to communicate

Awh man I’m actually sad I missed this episodes poll, you guys would’ve loved my crazy frat guy stories lol

My head canon on the stones working outside their origin universe is that Ultron didn't just travel the multiverse, he shattered the barrier and then shattered into the other ones; this allowed his origin universe to bleed into the others he shattered into and allowing the stones to work.

@jonasquinn7977

2 жыл бұрын

Or the MCU stones just done work on the same logic as the comics, which has already kinda been established since the comic stones can’t be used to destroy themselves

I love how this episode proves Ultrons "kill humans to create peace" Creed was full of shit. Because we can all agree Humans have done some fucked up stuff to the wolrd and create war and shit. But the Watcher was just standing there watching, Ultron has no concept of what he is or if he's violent, yet he immediately attacks him.

@TheNinjaBees

2 жыл бұрын

Right! It seems like he’s after all types of conscious beings? As beings with consciousness we all have the capacity for great good or evil, Ultron probably rationalizing this that everyone has the capacity for evil. Therefore, destroy all life. Destroy all potential for evil… *”Peace of our Time…”*

Also, that shield of watcher? Looks a lot like Athena"S Maybe he is the one who created Eternals, cause he cannot intervene.

Man I'm in the end discussion of this vid and im on acid and oh boy are you taking me for a ride with this alternate dimensions

Definitely the craziest episode so far, can't wait to see where they go with this.

What If...? S1 episodes ranked (so far) 1. 1x08: "Ultron Won?" 2. 1x04: "Doctor Strange Lost His Heart Instead of His Hands?" 3. 1x05: "Zombies!?" 4. 1x02: "T'Challa Became a Star-Lord?" 5. 1x03: "The World Lost Its Mightiest Heroes?" 6. 1x07: "Thor Were an Only Child?" 7. 1x06: "Killmonger Rescued Tony Stark?" 8. 1x01: "Captain Carter Were the First Avenger?"

@jonathanjohnson6727

2 жыл бұрын

I'd have T'challa Star-Lord above Zombies and Killmonger above Party Thor

why do people not understand that multiverse ALWAYS EXISTED, it's not Loki series finale that created it. Kang explained, that he took one timeline and cut it off of the rest of the multiverse, taking over it and creating tva for THAT PARTICULAR SACRED TIMELINE. the multiverse still existed, but because of Kang "we" were cut off from it. *TVA doesn't control the multiverse, it controls only our universe, the Sacred Timeline* but, because of Sylvie's actions and Kang's death, now our universe is open to others. AND our timeline begins to branch and creates other timelines (=universes)

@ignisinfernal1843

Жыл бұрын

Because it didn't. Unless He Who Remains is later proven to be a liar, he used Alioth to destroy all other universes and end the Multiversal War and created the TVA to stop that one remaining universe from branching off and creating other universes and when he died, the branches spiraled out of control and recreated the multiverse.

I love the way they explained something then said I don't know..😂😂😂😂

I love that you guys don’t look at the title before the episode.

This ultron was the one we deserved in age of ultron

@ThePonderer

2 жыл бұрын

Meh. I liked the other one better.

@AurelionSass

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh, if this happened in the theaters back in 2015, the entire world would have crashed.

Honestly I actually really liked this new VA who did the voice of Ultron in this episode. I might even go as far to say that he’s probably my favorite. There’s just something that sounds so sinister yet calculating in his voice that I love. My problem with the Age of Ultron character was that he felt a bit too witty at times and cracked way to many jokes. This Ultron felt like an actual genocidal maniac. How he almost whispers when he talks in a slow almost dead kind of way. It just sounds so good!

love this channel i watch the livestreams of aaron playing dead by daylight and erick playing mass effect good shit you guys!

Did not expect this to be an hour long video but her we go.

You are misunderstanding why the TVA can negate the Infinity Stones, and seriously misunderstanding the kind of power "He Who Remains" has over a part of his own realm.

@pfc_church

2 жыл бұрын

No they are talking about cannon. If you caught what they said about DC Darkside picked up the stones and they didnt work during the cross over. Marvel made this cannon in the council of reeds to prevent paradoxes of multiple people trying to snap each other and worlds. Stones only work in their own universes He Who remains is Kang. Which i am sure u know. He doesnt turn off stones. never has. I know MCU can do what they want changing stories but that wont be one and isnt one in the show. TVA does not say why the stones dont work. we are left with how the stones are described to exist and work in the MCU content with the fact they didnt work outside of their own space time. The nail is comics and their explanation of the stones. to change that would be to change cannon for bad reasons. Their is plenty of ways to get multiverse threats and old content for inspiration. if they broke this rule for a pretty fight on a cartoon to sell subs that would go against everything kevin has done so far.

@jonasquinn7977

2 жыл бұрын

@AJS Gaming except that rule has never been established in the MCU which is a completely separate thing from the comics The only reason people are acting like it’s a change is because they assumed the MCU stones operate on the same rules as the comic stones which there’s no proof of

@pfc_church

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonasquinn7977 its not a assumption but inductive reasoning. Do you need to be in space to know the earth is round? What your implying is a assumption. You are saying the multiverse marvel does not include all marvel content. the problem only gets worse because this is cannon for a good story driven reason. If this is possible all the kangs should be fighting at that moment with the stones. ending worlds. Thats not happening. The implication is stones are the solution to the multiverse problems. If they dont go get 5 different sets to battle ultron that would be a problem for the story. What is star panther to a being that split thanos before he even had the stones in a instant. They made the stones a comic level power this time. Not the MCU level. You want to say its not a issue but it is. You want to say its not a rule. It is a rule. You want to say its not a rule in just the MCU. expect reason would dictate it should be and was. Proof is how they talked about the stones working what they worked on with the culmination being them not working the moment they were removed from their home. This is a departure from what they just portrayed. It is bad story writing. Fans should be upset by this because its sloppy writing for a flashy fight.

@jonasquinn7977

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfc_church firstly when did they ever say that the MCU Stones don’t work in other realities? And secondly you’re acting as if it’s a concrete rule that must exist but in reality the rule only exists because comics constantly change writers and settings so they can’t guarantee that those things will never happen and need to provide an explanation for it but the MCU does have a shared singular story so they can guarantee they don’t happen and therefore don’t need a contingency rule just in case

MCU: Thanos: Badass What if?: Thanos ☠️

@azrael_morningstar

2 жыл бұрын

Cus dr strange said there is one timeline they shud follow and couldve probably killed him easily many times but he probably wanted thanos to destroy the stones first then use alternative stones temporarily.

As soon as I saw this episode, I knew the ray shield joke was coming! :D

I think its pretty defined that The Watcher is in a dimension outside time/space so he can see all those universes in some kind of hypercube similar to Insterstelar stuff. Where the stones start and stop working in that... sounds like a gray area.

This one, Dr Strage and Party Thor are top 3 for me

Look at Clint go! He's insanely competent in this, why couldn't we get THAT in the films!

@insanityhelps2800

2 жыл бұрын

When wasn’t he competent exactly?

This episode is perfect! And the ending was amazing

I loved every second of this episode i can't wait for the finale!!!!

Very Broad Theory here: Ton of people including myself saying "The Infinity Stones are only supposed to work in their Native Universe" are really confused, and what Was confusing me more was maybe the MCU just isn't connected to the Comics at all and is a separate Story/Multiverse. Thing is the MCU is a Universe in the Comic Multiverse with it's own designation and everything, though I think I know what they're doing here, that would keep this all working in the Pre-Established Lore. All the Events in MCU (Loki/Wandavision/What If/No Way Home/Multiverse of Madness) isn't creating a Multiverse, they're creating an Omniverse. Simply put the MCU Universe is becoming a Multiverse In A Multiverse, as a side note This would also explain how Ultron's Infinity Stones were working outside of what we thought was his Universe. He would technically still be in the MCU Universe but with it now piled on top of itself as a Multiverse, having Perfect Copies of The MCU's Infinity Stones in each Splinter Universe, allows him to use his in any place as they are the same thing.

@pfc_church

2 жыл бұрын

Marvel comics made this cannon during the council of reeds because the implication of two people wielding duel stones. what happens when two people snap against each other? so its a rule they set down to prevent paradoxes. imagine what happened to supreme strange but the multiverse. o_0 I know MCU can do things different but the same problem applies. using stones in other universes only makes more questions during multiverse content they will want to avoid. Kang will be around for 10+ years of this stuff in the MCU. Now imagine multiple stone wielding kangs.

@-libertyprimev1-902

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfc_church going off of what I said in my comment on your reply on the other comment thread, this may be the jumping off point for them to clean it up. After the whole Ultron Thing is over they could find a way to set the Fractured Stones to not be able to exist in the same place at the same time. Achieving the Same Effect as in the Comics.

@pfc_church

2 жыл бұрын

@@-libertyprimev1-902 I am sure they going to find a answer to what we just watched and i may even like the story. I honestly have been explain time travel in the same way are explain just a mcu multiverse so people understand the creation of the multiverse is the hub. I dont mind MCM marvel comics multiverse. My problem is with the concept that they did work. its bad writing. They clearly establishing stones control aspects of our universe and i would go as far as saying make the universe. how is the time stone supposed to effect another time stones space? MCU was going in the direction of them being useless for MCM content. and its the right decision. using the stones now on another universe opens way to many issues and the worst part is they did it in a show where I am supposed to be exited to see cpt becoming president. I loved that story but all i could was think about the god dam stones. so for a show for the fans they really hurt the fans. The stones not working in or on other universes is on the level of batmans parents dying uncle ben dying superman coming from another planet cyclops shooting energy from his eyes. If any of those things were changed you address it right away and nothing u do really hits with the gravity you want till you do. Imagine batman did that. he picked up his parents from the airport mid episode and dropped them off home then next thing he does is punch out super man. you dont give a shit about how he punched out superman wtf is going on with the parents. for fans that is what just happened and it hits us hard.

@-libertyprimev1-902

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfc_church towards the end it sounds like you're implying I'm not a fan, though i know that probably wasn't your intent, and I never agreed with how they are doing this. I just had idea on how it Could work and their Possible Direction to explain it later. That Batman thing would have people immediately assuming it's a new Universe like DCeased, but I get the intent of your point. But people wouldn't just call it bad, they'd speculate on where it's going, hell that actually happen in a semi recent story where Prime Batman was marrying Catwoman and Booster Gold thought it'd be a Good Wedding Gift to go back in time and stop his parents from dying, which absolutely screwed up a new branched timeline. (Also hate to be that guy but it was retconned a long time ago that Technically Cyclops doesn't shoot Energy out of his Eyes, it's Pure Concussive Force from a separate Dimension. 😂 Cause everything in Comics has to be complicated)

@-libertyprimev1-902

2 жыл бұрын

@@pfc_church and again I'll reiterate yes based off the Comics current explanations this would make no sense. What I'm saying is What If it does work because this is a Separate Multiverse happening In A Single Universe with Splintered Infinity Stones that are all part of the Same Stone and Universe. Also the Stones don't create the Universe, they are more the Pillars upon which everything Exists on. As well if we go off the Super Old Stories those Pillars were made by a Being which birth the Infinity Stones from his dying breathe of Loneliness.

Feel like they got tired of killing vision and were like "let's make him look like a punk instead". He could have just annihilated Thanos in a second???

@hmdch

2 жыл бұрын

In the main timeline, Vision was never genocidal like Ultron and was strategically weakened at the beginning of Infinity War.

@tescobakery1927

2 жыл бұрын

Main timeline Vision was caught off guard and weakened. If he went 1v1 against Thanos with neither of them having prep time, Vision would slap Thanos

Glad someone mentioned Hugo because I like how Supreme Ultron came off as Agent Smith as he hunted/fought The Watcher!

Episode was crazy!!

Oh my God!! They killed Tony! You bastards!

🔥

'Art is what we use to decorate space, music is what we use to decorate time.'... That's beautiful. Sounds like something The Doctor would say!

It was really nice of them for showing Benedict's name only at the eding credits, seeing that Doctor Strange was really awsome

I wonder if this will still end on a cliffhanger and go into the Dr Strange movie, it would certainly be interesting

Basically, my understanding is thus: - Stones don't work in the TVA because they are magic; magic itself doesn't work in the TVA. - Stones work anywhere where magic works, regardless of universe, multiverse, etc. This differs from the comics. Opposite this: they would fail anywhere magic fails.

I think the deal with the infinity stones in the MCU is this: since every universe is just a branch from the sacred timeline, all the infinity stones should work in every mcu universe, as they all technically are the same universe, just different timelines (if that makes any sense)

Ultron going Superboy Prime-ish with literally punching Watcher from one universe to another is the highlight for me Seeing Grandmaster from releasing the foam to getting annihilated in a span of a week is nuts. Granted they're two different versions but still 🤣

I'm just happy that Dr. Strange doesn't have to stay in that destroyed universe for eternity.

Okay, there are some things in this episode that I need clarification on. 1. Isn’t Guardians 2 supposed to be set a year before Age of Ultron? Wouldn’t Ego have already been destroyed by the Guardians at that point? 2. Loki established that the Infinity Stones do not work outside of the realm of time & space. How is it that Ultron was able to use them to fight the Watcher, who exists outside of time & space? 3. Ultron was able to slice Thanos in half with the power of the Mind Stone easily. Can someone explain why Vision didn’t use this on Thanos or Corvus in Infinity War? 4. We see that Thanos had the Soul Stone in his possession. How does he have it? He didn’t know where it was until Gamora tells him & he needed Gamora to get it, but we see her with the Guardians on the planet of the Sovereign. Same with the Time Stone. How did he get it when it was on Earth with the Sorcerors? Also, why weren’t Asgard & Xandar wiped out by Thanos when both the Space & Power Stones were at those places? 5. Where were Pietro & Wanda during this? They were the only humans that Ultron was willing to let live. Entertaining episode but there are some continuity errors in this & things that go against established lore.

@Vader_vgc

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@nickcampanella636

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing in terms of the timeline not matching up! The only explanation I can come up with is that Thanos got into a battle with the sorcerers off-screen that involved the time stone messing with this universe's timeline so that Gamora and Ego are alive again, Thanos' death can maybe be chalked up to Ultron/Vision being more powerful than just Vision if Ultron kept working on making upgrades to himself? And in Loki it was only established that the infinity stones don't work in the TVA, not that they wouldn't work where The Watcher is. They're flimsy explanations at best, I know, but the only ones I can come up with lol.

@Phanthief95

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickcampanella636 There’s also Pietro & Wanda, who were the only humans Ultron would’ve let live. We get no explanation of what had happened to them.

@Blazecap

2 жыл бұрын

1. I guess we can say it’s been pushed forward in the timeline. 2. The TVA is technically outside of time and space plus it nullifies magic. It important to remember that only applies in the comics and MCU tends to take liberties with stuff like this. 3. Keep in mind(no pun intended) Vision in Infinity War was previously injured. Which is also why he didn’t phase. 4. I say his chair lol. In all seriousness it was probably Neubla since we never see her. Alternatively maybe the black order were the ones to retrieve the stone and they sacrificed one of themselves. 5. Good question maybe they too were wiped out for Ultron’s version of peace? Hope this helped.

@Awesome_Pichu

2 жыл бұрын

Well Vision didn't do that to Thanos because he still was damaged by Corvus' spear which could harm in his intangible form. So Vision couldn't exactly do much while still injured and was in the process of having the mind stone removed. At that point, they couldn't risk him trying to fight Thanos and why he asked Wanda to destroy him

supreme strange & the watcher vs infinite Ultron....wow the episode continues ,how dope

Good reaction. Looking forward to the finale.

By far the best episode

@ariyansingh3108

2 жыл бұрын

Idk about by far, the thing that confused me was why the stones can work in different universes or even outside of a universe like place the watcher was when I thought the TVA was outside of a universe/time and the stones don't work there

@anotherhappylanding4746

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariyansingh3108 yeah not sure either its wierd because they just established this rule in loki and seemingly forgotten about it

@StopReadingMyNameOrElse

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariyansingh3108 This is literally a non issue people are creating. The stones don't work IN THE TVA. Loki just realized his quest was useless, since there was such a greater power over Time itself. He could have easily grabbed a Stone and brought it with him, but the point of the TVA is they would INSTANTLY know and be able to prevent it.

@ariyansingh3108

2 жыл бұрын

@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse I'm not creating the issue I'm just stating my observation. The mcu hasn't properly clarified if the stones from one universe can work in another which isn't the case in the comics as they only work in the universe they originated from so I assumed the mcu would have that same concept but guess not.

@StopReadingMyNameOrElse

2 жыл бұрын

@@ariyansingh3108 But, they did. Literally. That's the whole plot of Endgame. The fact that they go to alternate realities to take the Stones, use them, then return later to those other realities. The Gauntlet Tony and Bruce snapped with had Stones from multiple different Universes.