The caller is hypocritical. He only places the claim of others under scrutiny and skepticism, and when it comes to his own beliefs it's free pass, free pass, free pass, streamline, easy pass.

@jeffc5974

5 жыл бұрын

AKA special pleading.

@tristan9811

4 жыл бұрын

庫倫亞利克 I legit rolled my eyes!

@newtoatheism5968

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah my family is like that they are Christian to the core

THOUSANDS of Vikings died in battle believing they would be drinking in the great hall in Valhalla soon after they died!! Convinces me!! Thor bless you all!

@paulgascoigne5343

5 жыл бұрын

I think we need some pre celebrations to practise for the afterlife..

@PhilipLeitch

5 жыл бұрын

And they will

@boobybutt3530

5 жыл бұрын

praise the Allfather

@PhilipLeitch

5 жыл бұрын

@@boobybutt3530 how dare you! The world belongs to the ice giants!

@boobybutt3530

5 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipLeitch See you at Ragnarök foooooooool

10 show "Because someone dies for what they believe doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Do you agree with that?" 20 caller "Yes, of course!" 30 show "So why do you believe in the testimony of the apostles?" 40 caller "Because they died and refused to reject Jesus when they could have denied it." 50 show "But haven't we just talked about dying for a lie?" 60 caller "They weren't lying about it." 70 goto 10

@TheNomad94

4 жыл бұрын

okay, but why do you structure your comment that way?

@isaacpriestley

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheNomad94 it's written like a computer program, the point is that it just goes in a loop

@imjessietr29

4 жыл бұрын

Beaste Meauxde A very long time ago way back when I was in elementary school I want to say it’s BASIC?

@sweetsour4375

3 жыл бұрын

OH MY GOSH IT'S BASIC

@NaughtyNimitz

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheNomad94 80 REM "This is so basic,man"

I think Matt Dillahunty is starting to rub off on Eric! XD LOL

@Raz.C

5 жыл бұрын

@Karla Jordan I thought Matt was straight?

@MrStanleyHudson

5 жыл бұрын

imo matt has rubbed off on everyone on these shows in one way or another.

@thomasmills3934

4 жыл бұрын

@@Raz.C hahaha!!

@Raz.C

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmills3934 Thanks for the response. I was beginning to think that either no one got the joke, or that it was somehow offensive.

@Raz.C

4 жыл бұрын

@The Skeptic Philosopher Hells yeah!! I even saw Don make a valid, interesting and devastating point on the phones once, taking the theist down in flames!!! THAT was one for the history books! Ps: Sorry Don. I'm convinced that you're an epic force in favour of reason and skepticism, but you're not very vocal as a host/ co-host and have rarely shot down the high-flying theist callers. Perhaps we could use the metaphor: Don is a great soldier, but he's not a very good shot.

This call is over 30 minutes long and it's basically 10 minutes of content where the caller repeats the conversation three times.

"and he was alive and totes swole" LOL best argument ever

@scottc1857

2 жыл бұрын

Korean Jesus is JACKED. if you're going to believe in Jesus, believe in Korean Jesus Dost thou even lift bro

@zacharyshort384

Жыл бұрын

@@scottc1857 Fair....but Mormon Jesus has really cool shades.

@scottc1857

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharyshort384 Mormon Jesus isn't as much fun as other wacky Jesus

@zacharyshort384

Жыл бұрын

@@scottc1857 Lies. Any Jesus that would rock an 80s look is auto-cool.

Eric is my favorite host. Jamie is too patient for me. When Eric dismantled Darth was just classic. Absolutely stupendous. Eric put Darth over his knee and spanked him.

@Mewse1203

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Eric had him over a spike and Jamie derailed him. It was pissing me off on Eric's behalf. Jamie took over and took the conversation away from what was pushing Jonathan to the edge of his dissonance.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

@@Mewse1203yeah, he can do that often. Idk if it’s him being too charitable, or like not picking up his other hosts are trying to accomplish?

@zacharyshort384

Жыл бұрын

@@princegobi5992 I think Jamie just wants to keep things level-headed so the caller doesn't feel as threatened. Playing the 'good cop' role, so to speak.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharyshort384 I understand, but it often seems to come at the expense of the conversation, and the other hosts line of questioning.

Looking forward to reading "The Case for Joe Bob".

People (a huge crowd) have SEEN, in person, an elephant dissapear! Doesn't make it true.

@paulgascoigne5343

5 жыл бұрын

You mean magicians are dishonest!?? I'm shocked..

@PhilipLeitch

5 жыл бұрын

Or does it?

@beverly719

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhilipLeitch 😂

@chrisbaker3066

3 жыл бұрын

If an elephant disapears in a forest...and no one is there to see it....!!!?????

I think this might be the strongest case of Cognitive Dissonance I have ever seen.

I can't stop rewatching the old clips. So frustrating to hear to the absolute refusal to listen, but their takedowns are so smooth. First rule of Dunning-Kruger Club: you don't know you're in Dunning-Kruger Club.

'Why would you die for a lie.' How truthful, yet sorrowful in the lives of so many that've given it all up like this.

@18dot7

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, billions still believe in gods and an afterlife. It's a shame.

Wow - Jonathan's blind spot is HUGE.

The caller said he was convinced because they died rather than deny the resurrection. No where in the Bible , or in History, was there a Martyr where someone was told to deny the resurrection or die. That Martyr does not exist. There was never a Christian in the Bible or elsewhere when the Christian was arrested, taken to court and told that their faith was wrong and they had to deny it or be executed. That's something that is uttered by Christian often. They probably don't read the bible or do research. There is something else. When I was a kid I was shown these movies that had illustrations of the end times, and people being executed for belief in the Christian God. The idea is implanted of THAT TYPE of martyr is placed inside their head, and they aren't as well versed in Scripture like people ( like me ) who had to look and study because of doubts and desire for the truth regardless of the consequences. The idea of doing research that could potentially change their faith keeps them snug in the ideas. It keeps them for looking for extra information that would fluster their tender sensibilities with faith. Now they can turn a very cutting and critical analysis towards other religions. God yes! No problem. They can call them liars, crazy, delusional, but never point that sword of reason toward their own faith. When pressed on this particular act of bias toward other faiths excluding their own, I would ask what rescues their ideas from that particular criticism.

LMAO - oh, this poor guy. And poor Eric and Jamie! Eric and Jamie: People die for what they believe within all religions. and within cults, all that does is show that they truly BELIEVE it, but would you agree that it doesn't tell us if it is true? Jonathan: Yes I would. Eric and Jamie: GREAT! So why do you believe? Jonathan: Because they were willing to die for what they said they saw happen. Eric and Jamie: AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! WHY?!

Thank you for going through this process on this topic. I’m saving this video because I have a lot of family that may benefit from this one someday.

This conversation made me dizzy - round and round Jonathan went with his argument.

These two constantly talk over each other lmao love it

I vastly prefer “gloves off” Eric vs. “kid gloves” Eric.

Amazing discussion. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

I recommend that Jamie and Eric sit with Anthony Magnobosco and review this video and find out the best way to communicate with someone like jonathan without getting frustrated.

@thomasmills3934

4 жыл бұрын

Who cares. Its great television to make these ppl look stupid. Plus u miss the point. No matter what the host says. They are never truly trying to convince the caller, the aim is the audience. In a debate there is always very little chance anyone caves either way. But making the callers look dumb impresses the audience and makes them reconsider.

Jonathan keeps saying the fact that people would be willing to die for their beliefs has nothing to do with why he believes, but when he tries to explain why he believes, he says it has something to do with the fact that the apostles were willing to die for their beliefs.🤤

11:55 I found myself muttering 'jesus christ' n it made me giggle. honestly ... I have been this 'stuck' on many topics until someone finally worded it just right to get in my head. Kudos that he stuck with it and didn't feel backed into a corner and get mad and frustrated like I have done.

There may be better explanations, but I believe what I believe is true. . . . You cannot break this guy's discombobulated logic if he just keeps returning to his first assertion after being shown his error.

Both Jamie and the caller are frustrating. Jamie loves to go off on tangents not related to the point, and the caller just can't see the cognitive dissonance.

@33melonpaws77

5 жыл бұрын

imo eric too, he keeps being heavy handed when he wants to cut things short.

@EchoMirage72

5 жыл бұрын

@@33melonpaws77 The call was already 30 minutes long...

@33melonpaws77

5 жыл бұрын

@@EchoMirage72 ok you got me there. :3

Q: What's a pirate's favorite invalid evidence for theism? A: MARRRRRRRRRRRRRtyrdom!

17:28 A few months after my grandfather died in 1989, I saw him ride by in the passenger seat of a pickup truck. Let's weight the probability that he came back to life / faked his death and then rode past his house while I was visiting vs I was a kid who was bad with faces and still is to this day.

Thank you for sticking to the points in hand. You guys really know how to criticise commonly held beliefs. And they are very important beliefs that affect lives. Sometimes they take lives. Good work.

Special pleading. Special pleading. Special pleading. Somehow the claims of the religion of his choice are special, but all the other claims are not believable, because they are different. It's like saying "this purple book is 100% true, because it says all purple books are 100% true".

@autobotstarscream765

4 жыл бұрын

They even twisted Paul's words, "all Scripture is God-breathed", to try to infect the Bible itself with this garbage anti-logic to make it appear self-sealing and unquestionable.

This was one of the most frustrating conversations iv listened too

These guys are my fav!!!!!

After looking into it, it's pretty clear that we don't even have good reason to think that they died gruesome deaths, or that they had the chance to recant to save their lives. The best we have is information on Paul, but it didnt seem like recanting would have saved him. I enjoy the approach of nullifielng the entire train of thought...but it might be better to talk about the facts of the issue.

@autobotstarscream765

4 жыл бұрын

Yet another problem with idiots who don't understand how a Talmud works turning Christianity into Paulianity by their total misunderstanding of the Pauline Talmud.

9/11 That is all folks

Holy shit, Eric was pissed haha

The two hosts are chomping at the bit to respond, both are equally capable of running their own show.

Murphy, you are manning up more and more, fucking A! Thanks Matt!!

Romans 1:20 was the mountain I could not get over and was the driver for me out of Christianity. We can now see aspects of "creation" down to the quantum level and god is not "evident" anywhere. When I listen to discussions like this, where it would have been so simple for some simple empirical evidence to be left for seekers to find, I consider that no proof ,for the Christian god, specifically ,can exist. We know a lot more about the daily life of various Egyptians, Mesopotamian kings and Chinese royalty from direct writings from their period and later than about a so-called deity. The brick wall of faith cannot, it seems, be breached by reason nor fact.

16:00 never heard that before, holy shit that's horrible.

They systematically eliminated their willingness to die, their various accounts of the same experience, and the connection of those two things, as reasons to believe. Yet he still wants to use that as a reason to believe.

I wish Jamie would have let Eric speak.. Eric had him pinned down and Jamie derailed it by not letting him speak and moving the conversation in a different direction.

They went in circles so many times, that made me dizzy.

At the Catholic school that I have to clean at for work, they have a martyr story about a 14yo boy named Jose (whom the school is named after) who begged to join a rebellion, saying, "Do not let me lose the opportunity to gain Heaven so easily and so soon". He was captured and ordered to give up his faith, and when he refused, they sliced off the bottoms of his feet and forced him to walk barefoot all the way the cemetery where they were going to bury him. They stabbed him repeatedly, all the while he repeatedly praised Jesus and the Mary of Guadalupe, until they eventually shot him twice in the head. Now whether this boy's story is true, partially true but exaggerated, or completely false is irrelevant to whether or not the boy believed in something/someone that's actually real. In any case, these students are being fed a rather toxic mindset; praising a CHILD essentially eager to get himself killed over a belief with no evident reality to it! I think these martyr stories are just being used as leverage to dig their heels further in their religion, because they don't want to realize they were scammed to the grave, which is a huge double-standard when they see the same thing applied elsewhere.

@chrisbaker3066

3 жыл бұрын

What do you expect from a blood cult?? martyrs are essential to get the loons to drink the cool-aid!

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

Poor kid was indoctrinated to fight for a religious hierarchy.

I'll answer that directly...

Meany abducted people have died while still saying they were abducted. They lose friends family and reputation.

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

Not comparable. The bible example isn't "died while holding the belief". It's, supposedly, sword to their necks "Admit your savior was just a guy and your religion is fake...or I KEEL YOU!!" And they chose death.

I actually really enjoyed this conversation, even if it was as futile as it usually is to try to reason with someone who tries to justify faith

My main man Jesus and he's totes swole!

Next time his phone number comes up, just block the call.

AZ*

Hey, You guys know that AR is ARKANSAS not ARIZONA, which is AZ

God is in the oxygen. flowing. freely. forever.

@justifano7046

4 жыл бұрын

God is in my farts?

Why is eric so angry in this call? He's not usually like this.

@EchoMirage72

5 жыл бұрын

Because he was trying to keep the call on point, and get a word in. He wasn't able to do either, so yeah he got a little pissed.

@ZarkowsWorld

5 жыл бұрын

@@EchoMirage72 and it was a repeat-call where the caller isn't showing any improvement.

Apparently the supposed martyred apostles were given “every opportunity to deny their beliefs”. I wish the caller could establish a source for that. It’s certainly not in the Bible. And it’s certainly not in any other historical documents.

The gun analogy is the exact opposite of a good test as to whether someone is telling the truth, yes?

@Twulfbynight

5 жыл бұрын

Mykael David Lazzeri not that they’re telling the truth but if they believe it

Oh geez this caller must have a PhD in saying yes no yes no

Shutup and let each other speak lads. Sheesh.

Joanathan from Arizona sounds quite reasonable, and as one of the hosts says, his response regarding 'Joe-Bob' from Pakistan is at least logically consistent, but he is still gullible biased and is unable to see this. I am not an expert in Biblical or ancient Middle-Eastern history but I do have a good grasp of history generally and I understand what constitutes good historical evidence and what does not, or should be regarded with great suspicion (often because there have been multiple, proven attempts to fabricate evidence and present a false narrative by people who wish to promote a particular story or cult based on supposed events in the past). The Christian narrative is consistently misrepresented by its advocates, with gross exaggerations and downright lies to try and portray the events surrounding the supposed life of Joshua ben Joseph as having absolute and verified historical veracity when this is virtually the opposite of the truth. Nbody know whether there was suich a person as Jesus Christ/Joshua ben Joseph. The most that can be said for the character is that his existence (as some kind of itinerant rabbi wandering around Judea who attracted a small following and made friends and enemies in the early 1st century is that this tory is plausible. There were probably a lot of wandering preachers and some of them no doubt claimed to be the messiah who had come to fulfil prophecies in the Hebrew scriptures... it is entirelt possible that one of them was called Joshua (Jesus in Latin) and even that he fell foul of powerful peole who had him killed. But the fact that the bare bones of the story are possible and plausible says nothing about whether they actually happened, and the numerous later attempts to exaggerate the story anr to add claims which are palpably fal;se (such as the claim that this figure was famous throughout Judea and Syria, which appears in the gospels) just re-inforces the fact that it is all speculation. I personally suspect that there was no such person, but there could have been... and that is all that any historian who is being honest can say. The only truth that is verifiably true about this story is that nobody really knows.

The best explanation: We are alive bc we are alive and when we die it’s bc we died.

Let Eric speak! JAMIE needs to learn to share the floor,

To be clear, nobody saw the resurrection of Jesus. He was alone in a sealed tomb at the time, doing what all men do when alone. It's in that book I recycled today !

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

So the Second Coming would be...

@tedgrant2

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucebaker810 ... not as good as the first ! Boom boom.

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

@@tedgrant2 Chunkier. Did I just over-admit?

@tedgrant2

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucebaker810 Yes, it's all coming out now.

When the two hosts are talking over nd interrupting each other, it's difficult to concentrate on either conversation. Jaime and Eric need to STOP TALKING OVER EACH OTHER!! I've learned a lot from this vid, but I had to listen to it three times through to figure out the points they were making. Guys, please... one at a time.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

You actually listened three times? That’s excessive, not every conversation they have is worth committing to memory like thst

I have to say I really enjoy how weak people's beliefs are. I love that they are soooooo sure, but they can NEVER explain why without saying some complete nonsense.

According to Mark 16:15-18, one should be able to drink poison with no problems.

The comment was Hale bop (not sure if the spelling). I thought "well at least they had the balls to go thought with it." If you remember the story you'll know why this is funny.... Still sad too...

The case for Christ is full of straw man circular arguments and they always portray atheists as villisns but we care more about human beings than Christians do

Completely demolished him.

So is Case for Christ his bible or something

.et Jamie do it!

He admits that testimony is not evidence and then uses the testimony of the apostles because special pleading.

Honestly Eric is cuter than Jamie but Jamie is more handsome if that makes any sense

@autobotstarscream765

4 жыл бұрын

It makes perfect sense, and I personally prefer cute over handsome.

Goo Noobie Aw is real.. just got back...

When someone is abducted by aliens can they remember to bring back an ashtray or something, please? Like a god, I just need evidence!

@tacticalturtlez4906

11 ай бұрын

I would like to call it Tyson’s ashtray.

Logic overload equals cognitive dissonance, mental gymnastics and fallacies appears. The death grip on the security blanket must be maintained at all costs.

Noo you killed Eric

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

Bastards!

Kermit!

shouldnt occure too often in associaten with your thingie any-ways, be it pro or contra - n if you declare being ready for bringing it, you can not send others to die for you, but must do it yourself to keep word. (just dont do it)

How can anyone be as indoctrinated to the point of delusion as Jonathan? Weak mindedness is a threat to humanity.

What does martyrdom or sacrifice really mean when the individual being sacrificed is either supposed to be a God himself or the son of a God? I mean, how does a God or his son really get sacrificed, or what does martyrdom or sacrifice really mean when the God in question could just have the power to overcome the sacrifice or reanimate himself or his son. Not to say that any of this really happened, but let’s except for a moment that it did, such a sacrifice means nothing and really isn’t a sacrifice at all. So, this supposed God didn’t give anything for our sins or for whatever. The whole premise of Jesus in this context means nothing. It’s just another story that demonstrates the humanness of these Biblical stories rather than the godliness of them.

So it's all about money and fame. Sounds very familiar.

Nobody could possibly doubt that Popeye has a girlfriend named Olive Oyl.

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

What is it with you and Popeye, Ted?

@tedgrant2

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucebaker810 Popeye is an example of a hero that we all admire. He's kinda ordinary, but he always gets the girl. And most importantly, he's funny. Superman isn't funny.

@tedgrant2

3 жыл бұрын

@@brucebaker810 I've just been asked, "Why do you think that Jesus went to the cross ?" I tried to think how Popeye would answer that question. "On the map, the cross marks the place where Olive Oyl has been imprisoned by Bruto".

Eric and Jaime don't seem to get along very well. They talk over each other and sometimes seem irritated by each other.

The whole martyr thing is overblown anyway. There's only good evidence that 2 of the apostles were killed for being Christians and there's no evidence they were given the chance to denounce Jesus to save themselves.

Eric, more than once, I felt you didn't leave any ''sink in'' time. It just makes you seem manipulative when I know you didn't intend that.

The heroization of purposefull victimhood/martydom only works for the holder/apologists for a particular religion or idealism; under these claims heroic self sacrifice can be sanctified by Nazi supporters,the militant Japanese in World War two,The Viet Cong or suicide bombers in Islamic countries, as all of these factions had individuals who acted courageously/selflessly for a popular cause and an honest perusal of x-tian history factually presents it as religion that used violence and genocide to establish itself worldwide.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

Why would you list the vietcong along side the nazis and imperialist Japan? They were the good guys, they were freedom fighters. It was their country they were defending from the puppet government in the south, to the genocidal us invasion. Shame on you.

We could also say that Jesus made the disciples deaths prophecy so they didn’t have a choice in the matter cause Jesus predicted it how malicious is that!!!!!! That he would prophecy his disciples deaths they most likely didnt want to die

Plus jesus’ death was inevitable he didn’t have a choice in the matter how could anyone find that beautiful

Instead of given it a thought you should study and research then come talk about it

These looong conversations/debates/arguments over absurd writings in a book, rarely occur with other book stories, most of which lack speaking animals or serpents, walking on water of any depth, corpses walking & flying, multiplying bread loaves & fish, man living inside big fish.

@autobotstarscream765

4 жыл бұрын

That particular book must be pretty important then, huh? Some people even call it "The Greatest Story Ever Told"! This kind of deep and passionate discussion is reserved for an elite few narrative subjects, such as Star Wars and Transformers.

I get the caller. He think the witness has to be eye witnesses AND dies for it.

@AquaPeet

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah so he would believe someone was really sawed in half and mended together, if people witnessed it and died for believing it.

@AquaPeet

4 жыл бұрын

@@kentonbaird1723 no no then it wasn't magic but a real supernatural occurrence, see...

@abigailhurley3812

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. That’s why I always bring up Joseph Smith in these causes, because he must have known he made up Mormonism but still died “for his faith”.

@autobotstarscream765

4 жыл бұрын

@@AquaPeet Science is getting there, so...all praise science, the one true religion?

@autobotstarscream765

4 жыл бұрын

@@abigailhurley3812 Or he got shot by Masons for messing with them, according to some peoples' perspective.

All that is made true is the martyrdom and that only if we are talking about a real historical person. I have no proof that apostles died for anyone nor do I really have any proof of the apostles.

And Atheist saying God does not exist does NOT make him disappear & God & His Written Word do not disappear either.

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

Atheism =/= "god does not exist". It's "You claim there's a god. I don't accept your claim." Plus...the words you used don't actually fit together. Your meaning is not clear.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

Why would it disappear? It was written down by man for man, calling it nonsense doesn’t make something go away always and unfortunately. Doesn’t make your position true.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

@@Stevevick-ve6kh not even Jesus believed in hell. Hell was invented whole cloth by the Roman church.

@Stevevick-ve6kh

Жыл бұрын

@@princegobi5992 Roman Catholic Church is not a Christian organization . And to the contrary Jesus talked more about hell than he did Heaven . There is NO purgatory! Mentioned only in the apocrypha. Which was rejected by true bible scholars .. And removed from the KJV BIBLE. It’s straight hell or heaven .

@Stevevick-ve6kh

Жыл бұрын

@@princegobi5992 Purgatory was what they invented. Among other atrocities. That’s why God will destroy the Vatican one day

Well Jim Jones and 9/11 didn’t die for there faith they killed for there faith. Killing themselves is also rudiment to that analogy as well. The heroes who died at 9/11 are the true martyrs.

@princegobi5992

Жыл бұрын

How are they martyrs? What? What cause did they die for? They died trying to save other people,not for a religion or ideology. That’s a sick and disturbing way to think about this actually.

Jesus was alive and totes swole xD

First time I have seen Eric snapped. Love, love atheist experience BUT this segment was badly managed. Thirty minutes have gone by and still nothing made sense to the caller. You guys should've stopped it before making him more confused than he was before, moved on to the next caller, and that's that. I sometimes feel Jaimie tries way too hard to be patient to the callers more than they deserve and end up making them more confused and stray off from the main topic.

Not sure why Jamie seems to get most of the criticism on these videos. Jamie has a great personality that I think represents atheism and the spread of information about atheism well. He seems like a guy you could actually hang out with. Eric, while a good debater at times comes off soooo fuckin fake. Like that guy friend your girl has who is nice to your face but does that "woooow karen, you're better than that, he shouldn't talk to you that way. Look at me...you're my best friend....I care about you." shit. And he seems to want to get over-the-top upset at callers sometimes just to be dramatic and emulate Matt's style. If Jamie can't get through to someone he does exactly what everyone should do, just kind of sighs it off and throws in the towel knowing he's wasting his time but stays pleasant. Eric gets angry, starts insulting the caller, shouts over them, and eventually hangs up after giving a long self righteous rant.

Jonathan, like MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY other theists, wants to believe soooooo badly that they will apply a double standard when it comes to their "god."

There are times like this call where Jaime is just as annoying as the caller. The way he speaks can often times make the call convoluted and harder than it needs to be.

There are no Joe Bobs in Pakistan sorry

Jamie, you need to sharpen your blades a bit more. I can't say stay on target cos I'm guilty of that too, but try not to eat up so much time trying to use kiddie gloves on people.

I think this show would be better if there was a single host.

@djsichuan3303

5 жыл бұрын

matt dillahunty lets his co-host say 3 words and people seem to like it so yeah, i agree, one host shows! :)

@brucebaker810

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure both Jaime and Eric are single. So that's twice as good.

@shookreeseeree4

3 жыл бұрын

I really feel bad for Eric..his points n arguments did not come across as Jamie did not give him a chance..

Jonathan’s skepticism seems to go up to 11 when people aren’t talking about his mythology - and that was 35 solid minutes defending “die for a lie.” J’s a nice guy but his apologetics are as tired and tedious as Young Earth creationist. The obtuseness, cognitive dissonance and desperation to believe are palpable.