Keown speaking sense for once. Sancho has had more than enough chances at Man Utd and hasn't taken any of them. If his attitude isn't right then he doesn't deserve any more.

@PeteStanner4567

9 ай бұрын

lol. When I saw the title, I felt for sure that Keown would defend Sancho. Imagine my shock when I watched it........and yes, he speaks sense.

@jamesphillips5926

9 ай бұрын

he should of been shipped out months ago

@craigmillington1258

9 ай бұрын

Remember ralf radnick spoke about the toxicity in the club and he presented a list of players that needs to be sold. SANCHO was 1of those players

@ashwainthobourne4874

9 ай бұрын

The way Keown defends Maguire i'll every thing he says with a grain of salt.

@yawsafo5594

9 ай бұрын

ETH wasn’t around when sancho joined and his form before ETH came is as loud as his boots. ETH personalized his recovery, took his to Netherlands for his form recovery yet he failed. Now media behaving as if he’s been consistent for years.

If I remember correctly, ten Hag gave basically the same criticism of Wan-Bissaka this time a year ago. He said he's not at the level mentally or physically, which I don't take to mean 'has mental health issues'... I take it to mean head is not in the game, not comprehending the footballing principles, etc. Both are/were players who look to have poor football IQ, but Wan-Bissaka has really come on leaps and bounds. He has an honesty and integrity about him that I'm not sure Sancho has.

@shafer.chris.2244

9 ай бұрын

no AWB has not come leaps and bounds he is basically player as the player united bought him a few years ago, very good 1v1 defender but offers absolutely nothing else

@alinafemaunda7627

9 ай бұрын

​@@shafer.chris.2244 watch football

@rupertwilmot4792

9 ай бұрын

That’s your opinion… and it’s wrong

@junioradult6219

9 ай бұрын

​@@rupertwilmot4792 but its actually provable

@davidlogan8905

9 ай бұрын

@@rupertwilmot4792 In what sense do you believe it's wrong?

Rarely agree with Keown but he's speaking facts....ETH has set the standard, if players don't reach those then they don't play

@alexbelotti1603

9 ай бұрын

Man United have no standards , they play Maguire and antony 🤣🤣

@martinb3703

9 ай бұрын

Its not about setting standards, its about venting them out publicly. If you would ask TH, knowing what you know now how the situation evolved, would you commented it the same way again, he would probably said NO. That would mean it was a mistake (not having standards and not playing folks he feels dont reach them, but talking about it publicly).

@FlmzCFL

9 ай бұрын

😂 thats why maguire will play😂

@jameshall6061

9 ай бұрын

​@@alexbelotti1603Alexbellend

@jameshall6061

9 ай бұрын

​@@martinb3703He has kept it private long enough

Brilliant. Ten Hag is the sort of bloke you want to work with. He gets rid of the chaff.

What was ten haag supposed to do. From my point of view he tried to help Sancho and clearly it didnt work. He obviously isn't willing to work hard so Ten Haag has washed his hands of him

@Woze899

9 ай бұрын

Focus on your manager swearing at his own fans🤣🤣🤣

@fredthered1074

9 ай бұрын

If a Liverpool fan can see why Sancho needs to go and crossed the line, the why can't so many others understand this.

@visor617

9 ай бұрын

@@Woze899 and you can ask your manager to let the players know that they are supposed to go home to rest and live life, not play boxing with their partners 🤣🤣🤣

@Woze899

9 ай бұрын

@@visor617 Coppell lol

@harunkelly4530

9 ай бұрын

It's Sancho's high wages with nothing to show for it.

Its called standards. Pep let Ferran Torres and Cancelo who were two of our best players at the time go because they were not happy and wanted to start more.We avoided any drama by dealing with the problem early and allowing the players to move on. The rule Pep has is if you are unhappy or arent meeting the standards expected you will be moved on.

@junioradult6219

9 ай бұрын

Problem is man u players have bad mentality. They are happy to sulk on the bench while getting paid instead of play. Harder to move those players on

@harrycallahan6623

9 ай бұрын

No one wants Jadon Sancho. There is no Barcelona waiting for him. Dortmund can never afford his current wages or even half his current. Which is the problem with the entire Man Utd squad. Overpaid overrated players who join the club only for money and the difficulty to move them on once they flop. Antony is next, the next season it will be Mason Mount.

@Hpalhazred

9 ай бұрын

Yeah but Sancho have a shiny British passport.

@jim9667

9 ай бұрын

Ferran Torres was never even near your best

@Ryan-ys2bq

9 ай бұрын

​@@jim9667he weirdly started that season as the number 9 and first 5/6 games looked really good in the role

Ten Hag was asked a question and he answered it truthfully. Jim conveniently omits that. It would have been worse if he had lied. They forgot that when Ragnick was there, and was asked why Lingaard wasn't in the side, he said Lingard was sick. And Lingard posted in social media that it was a lie. What was Ten Hag to do when asked about Sancho? He would have been crucified if he lied too.

@CagedPaps

9 ай бұрын

There is the political answer though, which as we know from politicians doesn't mean lying but it also doesn't mean the truth. With the problems united have with various players and the way the media is looking at them - I think he could have answered without it boiling down to "he's lazy in training". He could have handled it like Arteta did for Gabriel. Very suspicious he didn't start this season considering how many he played last season - he simply said he will play a lot of games and it was tactical. If ETH had replied saying 'Sancho is still in the mix, I just picked the best squad for this game. He'll be back...' That's not lying but it also doesn't label players lazy in public. It turned it into an issue we're still speaking about. I'm all for honesty in press conferences - I think ours are terrible for that reason. But it's honest to say they won't be playing this weekend. Whichever way you look at it, it's another player ETH has had a public spat with. The first time - maybe it's the player, eventually eyes will start to focus on ETH.

@shanedog4974

9 ай бұрын

Karl Robinson is a donut.

@Judasiscariot6464

9 ай бұрын

@@CagedPaps last season Ten hag protected Sancho gave him 3 months off mid season and then brought him back in the team slowly at his own pace. enough is enough with sancho Ten hag is right with his approach he is not Arteta.

@ibrahimhassen1784

9 ай бұрын

​@@CagedPapsBy the accounts that are coming out since this spat, Ten Haag had been having problems with Sancho's time keeping since he came last year. So much so he was told to get to the training complex an hour before everyone else has to show up. And it seems Sancho had knuckled down at first and was showing up on time but went back to his old ways again. And then he was sent to Holland because his fitness wasn't UpTo par and they said there were mental health issues as well. We all have seen how much the club/ manager/players as well as fans all rallied around him and wanted him to do so well. So ultimately my point is Sancho's professionalism has been called into question multiple times since his time at Mancity's academy and I think Ten Haag believes he has done evthg he can to help him in private and airing this in public was probably the last straw to see if he responds to the criticism and changes his ways. But Sancho has decided to double down on his belief and we all know who is going to win the war between Manager and player.

@Mcdingleberrysauce

9 ай бұрын

@@CagedPapsyou mention Gabriel but forget to mention auba which he directly called out. Let’s not forget pep has also called out players recently. The Sancho issues have be ongoing and he probably thought I finally need to call him out publicly to get a positive response. He also did it with rashford and he literally responded with coming off the bench and scoring. Garnacho has been the same. Sancho is soft, period

Well said Martin full stop 🛑

@rosshaugh7937

9 ай бұрын

I agree. the scouser is just bitter towards the United manager.

@robbiekop7

9 ай бұрын

Keown he's Arsenal through and through

All I know is this. If I’m consistently late for work and then call my boss a liar, my ass is getting fired.

You can clearly see Antony puts 100% effort in in every game , Carl needs to drop the United hate and see the facts

@joemac9249

9 ай бұрын

100% 😂😂😂

@RD-zx6py

9 ай бұрын

If Antony wasn't a ETH signing he'd be one of his scapegoats and now he's got a criminal case pending he might finally be finding himself a target once Ten Excuse's is done with Sancho.

@realbro1415

9 ай бұрын

100%??? His performance has been TRASH!!! 😂😂😂

@cookofdenton4190

9 ай бұрын

Antony definitely puts 100% in when he plays, whether hes good enough is a different thing.

@Ryan-ys2bq

9 ай бұрын

​@@realbro1415trying hard and performing well are different things, I guess at least Antony does one, Sancho does neither, Pellestri probably should be the one who is annoyed right now.

Let's be clear, a player will NEVER be above the manager

@dom6140

9 ай бұрын

Unless you're Neymar 😂

Pep called Philips fat and no one was bothered. ETH said that Sancho should train better and there is f*cking mutiny on the bounty ffs

@dannytallmage2971

9 ай бұрын

In that case the manager was darker and the player was lighter no pun intended. I think you’ll find this an efficient heuristic for understanding thinks.

@barrykeohane7111

9 ай бұрын

The difference is sancho went on social media and called the manager a liar.

@hod2116

9 ай бұрын

@@dannytallmage2971 both players are mixed race what does that have to do with it

@dannytallmage2971

9 ай бұрын

@@hod2116 both the coaches are white too but you didn’t have any problem sussing that one out. Kalvin is lighter than Sancho

@hod2116

9 ай бұрын

@@dannytallmage2971 so you are telling me you think it is because 1 is a lighter shade of mixed race person lol give it a rest

I’ve never heard Sancho talk before but now I have here it all makes sense. He’s just not very bright is he, that’s the problem.

WTF is Karl on about 😔

@cornishpasty6926

9 ай бұрын

Karl is making sense 👍

@garethmccartan3636

9 ай бұрын

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@reeceh8048

9 ай бұрын

Crack!

@cornishpasty6926

9 ай бұрын

@@garethmccartan3636 Teabags Mate 😂😂😂

@garethmccartan3636

9 ай бұрын

@@cornishpasty6926 🤣🤣🤣

For years the players had the power and now Manchester United have appointed a leader who won't let player power prevail over the group and people are still complaining.. Everybody has to have an opinion on mufc, even when they're all hypocrites

@daviddegea3373

9 ай бұрын

The United fans are the hypocrites. When Jose did the same yall went for the jugular and supported these mediocre players. Ole made it the norm that these entitled players get a chance to play the next game no matter what their prior performace was. Now you guys say Player Power is too much. So idk.

@phillipmukama6796

9 ай бұрын

No more player power fc

@grassrootsfootball225

9 ай бұрын

@daviddegea3373 most Manchester United fans grew up in the fergie era where nobody was bigger than the boss and certainly not the club so I disagree that the fans wanted player power... Ole momentarily cleaned up the toxic environment that Jose created and still lingers today on reality, you haven't a clue what you're talking about man.. Laughable

Not a united fan but if this happened when Keane and other leaders in the club were there they would have torn strips off sancho and Ferguson wouldn't have needed to have gotten involved. Therefore it's more concerning for united fans that were are the leaders at the club now if ten hag has to go public.

'You can teach people skills.....but you can't teach them attitude'. If a person has a bad attitude - as good as they might be, you get them out.

@randypanthegoatboy2

9 ай бұрын

Precisely. True in any profession.

@thesoultwins72

9 ай бұрын

@@randypanthegoatboy2 .....Yup!

The manager has done everything for sancho - if sancho can’t perform or train like the others, then that’s the end of it. It’s up to the manager not the player

No idea what point Robinson is making here as he contradicts himself with every second sentence.

This situation just shows me that Sancho isn't mentally strong enough! He has had issuses at every team he has been at! ETH has done so much for him and Sancho has thrown it back in his face. He's done nothing since he has been here and wouldn't mind selling him in January! But all Sancho has to do is hold his hands up, admit that ETH has done a lot for him, knuckle down, put in the effort and make sure that he is undeniable so ETH has to pick him on match day. Miss the days where a manager would call out a player and it being called "tough love" and the player wouldn't moan or make a statement. They would show the manager exactly just how good they are! Rooney would of done that back in the day, Giggs, Rio, Gerrard, Lampard ect. You call them out and they'll have a worldie the next week The footballers these days are so soft! Can't take any criticism and every bad thing said about them is "abusive"

@TheCzechLad_

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely spot on 👏

Ten Hag's comment (when he was asked a question) was very mild and straightforward and fair. What was Ten Hag supposed to say? No comment? or pretend Sancho wasn't fully fit? or say he wasn't considered good enough to make the squad? - which is basically what he said anyway. Sancho's response, to go publicly tweeting to defend himself was totally childish and ridiculous. I'm sure Ten Hag was perplexed and shocked and wondering "what on earth is wrong with this guy?" It's so obvious that writing a public comment directed at your manager is simply something that shouldn't even come into consideration for a player to do. SOOOOOOOOO OBVIOUSSSSS!!!! - unless the comment is in praise of your manager, maybe. Players are supposed to bring solutions for managers, not create problems.

So Karl is just guessing other players aren't training to the right level to suit his agenda against ETH lol.. muppet man

Players feel entitled now and it's a problem. A man like Ten Hag is what is needed for this. SAF would have done the same.

@reeceh8048

9 ай бұрын

SAF would of put him up for sale by now 😂

@realbro1415

9 ай бұрын

Never put Ten Hag in the same sentence as Sir Alex...

@mark2shooter

9 ай бұрын

@@realbro1415 he'll be the next legendary manager if he gets the time.

@johnbrand1893

9 ай бұрын

Sir Alex Ferguson was the manager not head coach, Fergie proved his management of the team and man management worked, and nobody has ever matched that to date in England, Pep could, but I think the days of managers/head coaches ever staying at a football club for that number of years are gone.

@vincnet1982

9 ай бұрын

He wouldn't have done the same, he would have handled it like man face to face, not airing it for the media and public to run a frenzy on it.

It did not start here, Sancho got canned at City he was fined heavily at Dortmund. He was canned from the England team. Sancho’s worst enemy is himself. He has no consistency in his play he has had a ton of minutes. The manager gave him months off last season. F Sancho and his bitchy hissy fits. Behave like a grown ass adult, follow the rules. Rashford in brilliant form late 45 seconds got dropped. Got on with his work and preformed. Wan Basaka got on with improving and earning for his spot. Sancho can pound sand.

I followed Sancho during his Dortmund and he was explosively good...(had some lateness issues as Jim mentions..)..Likely he felt he had made it and he that was the next Ronaldo when transferred to ManU.. too much $ too early spoiled him...What are the people around him tell him..

@BurnCKC

9 ай бұрын

💯 These young players are given 5/6 year contracts on anything from 100-200k, sometimes more, straight away. There's no incentive to knuckle down and work hard when things aren't going their way.

@Ryan-ys2bq

9 ай бұрын

​@@BurnCKCyou're totally right, incentive based wages need to be implemented but its hard to do - You'll miss out on a lot of players as rivals will offer flat wages so you'll need to find Manes and Salahs rather than the big guys - You already have players on flat guaranteed money and agents will demand parity (Chelsea had this issue with Mount, they wanted to bring in a new wage structure and he pointed to Reece James wages)

Keown bang on for once Also, remember the days when captains used to have a word with teammates? Cant imagine that at United...

Keown hit the nail on the head with his comment... 16:04 to 16:54! Spot on!

Super strong management from Ten Hag setting the standards. Garnacho and Rashford disciplined. They knew they got in line. Sancho get in line stop being childish knuckle down.

@josephhall5136

9 ай бұрын

Its not super strong management, managers have done it before and they'll do it again. Utd fans just seem to think when a utd manager does something it's the 1st time and they are setting a standard.

@Stevenbutterworth1992

9 ай бұрын

@@josephhall5136man United fans don’t know what the meaning of standards mean anymore. Fans have become accustomed to failure.

@eL--RaL

9 ай бұрын

​@@josephhall5136That's who United fans are ..They think life doesn't exist outside Old Trafford

@philtaylor8863

9 ай бұрын

@@josephhall5136 no because Man Utd is so big no manager is under that amount of pressure.

@philtaylor8863

9 ай бұрын

@@josephhall5136 example despite all the crap and the glazers. Utd just did a world record shirt sponsorship with snapdragon. No other club could do that.

If Sancho had not said anything this would have not been a story

@Mook05

9 ай бұрын

If erik didnt say anything this wouldnt havent been any problem.

@Kspat2

9 ай бұрын

@@Mook05quit talking out of your ass there comes a point when you have to be called out. He was constantly late for training and ETH even moved training back so he could make it easier and he still showed up late. There comes a time when you have to call a spade and spade. Sancho isn’t a professional.

@jon7939

9 ай бұрын

If Sancho hadn't said anything, he'd likely be starting against Brighton today.

@reginaldoklah6845

9 ай бұрын

He should have kept his fingers of the phone

@reginaldoklah6845

9 ай бұрын

​@Mook05 even if ETH is wrong, sancho shouldn't have responded. 2 wrongs don't make a right. Well it's Sancho career and he chose whatever he wants to shape it.

Imagine getting a new job and telling your employer on day one you'll be bringing vibes and jokes to the role. Amazing scenes.

@nathanking596

9 ай бұрын

You definitely work in the media because that is not all he said loool. I mean if you are going to analyse something have some integrity. This is coming from someone who thinks ETH is right.

@jamesgilheany9624

9 ай бұрын

@@nathanking596 he literally says it in this clip, dear. Vibez.

Both pundits never mentioned Sancho has a history of this. He had it with Pep with city.... with Dortmund and on international duty. Ten Hag is just the latest to have issues with him

@RD-zx6py

9 ай бұрын

Ten Hag also has a history of pointless standoffs with players he's publicly scapegoating.

@hod2116

9 ай бұрын

Didn't know he played for bayern

The effort from Martinez and Antony has never been in question on the pitch. So we do know how Ten Haag players work. The first time I actually appreciated what Keown has said.

So glad Keown mentioned it since other pundits seem to have amnesia. Ten Haag gave that boy Sancho so much love last season. He sent him away from months when we already had other issues with the squad. He gave him game time upon his return and at no point did we even attempt to sell him during the off-season window. I wish Jadon had taken a few minutes to think about everything before putting out that tweet. With just a few paragraphs, he may have ruined his career. He's 23! Before you criticize Ten Haag for calling Sancho out publicly, he tried the arm around the shoulder. I'm sure he felt that he had no choice when he was asked that question. For anyone who has ever had to look after/mentor/train someone or be a supervisor, I'm sure you've had a case where the person under needed some tough love cause sometimes that's the only way to knock someone into shape. But ultimately it's on the individual to take that and use it to be better. Sancho has chosen not to and I'm tired of some pundits and even fans excusing the player's lack of accountability here. It's this acceptance of mediocrity that has contributed to United's malaise and I'm glad our manager has said enough is enough.

Guardiola said sancho didnt want to take on the challenge of earning a place in the city team

@aimeewhelan9897

9 ай бұрын

Pep is right , if Sancho had any interest in proving himself he wouldn’t have flown to New York 😂. Yes they had a break but he should’ve stayed back and trained . Instead Sancho was pictured looking ridiculous , yes AWB was there but Sancho shouldn’t have. He should’ve stayed back in England trained in Carrington and proved he feigned a bit of interest in united

For this other bloke, if he’s making references to Antony, he’s one of the hardest workers in that team on the pitch no matter how good or bad things are going, Fred had the same mentality. If you don’t watch united, don’t start talking

@joemac9249

9 ай бұрын

Top marks a professional footballer works well 👍 Ten Haag hangs Sancho out to dry in public. Then creates a storm. Good work Erik 👍

@Ricardo-ur5os

9 ай бұрын

@@joemac9249what is your actual point mate? Because the whole point here is sancho clearly doesn’t work like a professional, which he’s been criticised for by multiple managers. He did the same to AWB and he acted like a true professional and is now completely back in the fold

@joemac9249

9 ай бұрын

@@Ricardo-ur5os Ah there is no point slagging of Erik anymore. Finally United fans are waking up to his bs.

I feel he's an problem of the previous culture it's good to see the manager putting his foot down setting standards.

Robinson suggesting he's not consistent when he's done the same with Ronaldo, Rashford and garnacho. 2 have been big enough to deal with and seemingly 2 haven't.

Well he deserved it. Talking about the manager publicly is a cardinal sin. This is a Manchester United FC, not Sancho FC.

@frasersutherland6837

9 ай бұрын

The manager shouldn't have talked about Sancho publicly! The manager will be sacked sooner rather than later and then Sancho will be back lol!

@daviddegea3373

9 ай бұрын

Sancho just needs to wait out the manager going by this rate. You all deserve it when you made it Pogba FC and Martial FC when Mounrinho had a problem with them.

@ericazu-xk4pf

9 ай бұрын

​@@frasersutherland6837Sancho will be gone in January mate 😂😂😂😂 ... My beloved united team we so sheet ... We don't need Sancho to make us more sheet 😂😂😂

@frasersutherland6837

9 ай бұрын

@ericazu-xk4pf Sancho will be gone in January, ONLY if Sancho wants to go in January! He has all the power and a mega expensive contract!🤣 ETH will be sacked soon enough tho! If I was Sancho, I'd just wait it out until he's canned!

@daviddegea3373

9 ай бұрын

@@ericazu-xk4pf You could not ship off Maguire and yet when he said no you continue to play him and pay him. Sancho is going nowhere xD

All Sancho has to do is introduce industry to his game like Anthony. Anthony might be disappointing offensively but he works his ass off when tracking back. Or better yet, work like Bruno and you'll never be dropped. The modern footballer is mostly a runner, an industry machine & looking at Sancho he looks like he has the body of a 30 y Silva & Grealish are prime example of technical player who have tremendous industry, which make them unplayable. For Sancho, getting fit means giving your life to Futbol, all of it, training, rest, recover. It's a job mostly, nothing glamorous about it.

@RD-zx6py

9 ай бұрын

Antony - the first attacking midfielder/winger to have the only good thing you can say about his game that he 'tracks back'. Jesus. United/Ten Hag fanboys really will say anything. I remember when Martial was receiving impassioned defences in comment sections and he's been nowhere near as useless as Antony. Give it a couple of years when he's gone and everyone will talk about what a terrible signing he was, how Ten Hag couldn't keep a dressing room onside and how his arrogance didn't allow him to make the adjustments he needed to make to succeed at United.

Karl Robinson must of been a late booking for this 🤣

Maguire has been poor but the kid tries. Meanwhile Sancho gets a free pass while being both poor and not caring.

@dannytallmage2971

9 ай бұрын

Gee I wonder why? Almost like the media has been colonized by a sect that promotes the interest of colonizers over the colonized.

As much as the results are hurting, I'm behind the manager. He has to be given time to sort this group out.

@paulmartin9194

9 ай бұрын

Not like he's just took over. He's had a full season and 3 transfer windows

@davidc9171

9 ай бұрын

The club committee has got to call Sancho in and tell him, if it’s a choice between you and the manager we Manchester United are going to choose the manager every time, the manager has been very patient with you so publicly apologise and challenge for a place in the team or go, but we paid 75,000,000 for you and we want as much back as we can get, we had all this shyte With Pogba and then with Ronaldo and we will not put up with these disruptions from you or anyone else,

Stopped watching this part way through but the guy chatting to keown is making an incorrect comparison to anthony. Yeah anthony has been very frustrating and and not great but he has by far the highest work rate defensively out of all our wingers. So whether he’s good is not the issue. It’s the effort where ten Haag has the issue here with sancho.

@RD-zx6py

9 ай бұрын

Imagine signing a player for that much money and the best thing you can say about them is 'they run a lot'. Utter waste of money.

@ozieikram2511

9 ай бұрын

@@RD-zx6py he’s not an utter waste of money but we did massively over pay.

As soon as the player becomes bigger then the manager its all over for the manager. ten Hag has to make an example of Sancho. Fergie had fallings out with players during his time as boss, what did he do? Move them on very quickly.

Sometimes in life you gotta be cruel to be kind ….I hope Sancho sorts his head out & has the career his talent should give him.YNWA

ETH wasn’t around when sancho joined and his form before ETH came is as loud as his boots. ETH personalized his recovery, took his to Netherlands for his form recovery yet he failed. Now media behaving as if he’s been consistent for years

If Fergie was in charge and treated sancho like this no one would batter an eyelid.

I’m happy Sancho went public and defended himself.

A managers jobs is to manage, to analyse performance and pick his best squad. They are paid to have that authority. If you think as a player you’re doing good enough, it makes no difference if you’re not doing what your manager wants.

this show without Jordan is like cheese on toast without the cheese

I can't believe it, i'm in shock. I actually agree with Keown, it's a miracle...

Keown wasn't saying this about Aubameyang when he was acting up at arsenal.

@dannytallmage2971

9 ай бұрын

Yea the only difference perhaps is that aubameyang hadn’t been indulgently given six months of paid leave he was just behaving Africany. What Sancho has done is especially galling because ten Haag took his concerns seriously and was repaid with complete contempt.

@alexbelotti1603

9 ай бұрын

Two completely different situations and Arteta wasn’t a manager out of his depth. Ten Haag is clueless

@bokoko124

9 ай бұрын

​​@@dannytallmage2971WTF do you mean by africany?? He was born and raised in Europe so if you want to go on that tangent. Review your notes

@dannytallmage2971

9 ай бұрын

@@bokoko124 I was born in Kigali am I a Bantu? Being a colonizer from africa doesn’t make you European anymore than my Puritan ancestors were Naragansett.

@bokoko124

9 ай бұрын

@@dannytallmage2971 If you stayed in Kigali your whole life then surely your character is from your environment, not your Europe. Or am I missing the point that it has to do with DNA

Martin normal sticks up for the wrong person in my opinion but in this case, I think he's got it right.

Since when is it a problem for a manager to answer in a press conference of the availability of a player and he gives an honest answer that the player’s perfromance in training wasn’t up to his standards.He is on 350k a week and is in his 3rd season.The manager works with the players and it’s his duty to select the right players that will win for him and the club!!.

Sancho posted such comment just to act as the victim being oppressed by Ten Hag to get sentimentality from fans and knew damn well he'd get that becuz he's English and Ten Hag isn't. That's the reason why he had the guts to post that in the first place and he wasn't wrong at all looking at how some Pundits and English media is supporting their beloved

@PeterParker-yr8yb

9 ай бұрын

Do you mean sympathy?

@AJ-xv7oh

9 ай бұрын

You've got serious English jealousy 🤣 it's brilliant.

@HuwEvans.

9 ай бұрын

@@AJ-xv7ohI see him in English channels, talking about English football, always abusing English people. Yet never says where he’s from, funnily enough.

@dannytallmage2971

9 ай бұрын

@@HuwEvans.somewhere dusty dark and smelly. Climate and the people.

@dannytallmage2971

9 ай бұрын

Lol English media has zero sympathy for indigenous real Anglos. Only African colonists get sympathy.

I do not understand the criticism of Ten Hag for simply doing what every manager does in picking his team for the coming matches. If Sancho was showing his worth in training, surely he'd be picked to play. He hasn't, so he's sidelined. The fact Sancho isn't happy about that is of no concern to anybody but himself, in which case he has to look at himself and address what the problem is. We as football fans see the frustrating lack of the talent we have seen from him at Dortmund and that's the real issue here. He's not effective in games and if he's not effective in training, he doesn't play. Just because the manager answered a question honestly does not make him the bad guy here. Train well, play well and you'll always be in the frame.

When Keown says other players have been training and giving there all and Karl responds “how do we know they are?”. What kind of argument is that? I could say aliens exist and if someone disagrees I’ll just say “well how do we know” what a great argument that is.

Why did Man city let him go? Why doesn’t he play for England? His ill discipline and his ‘vibes’.

If Sanhco was sticking his leg in, pull some muscles in tackles, held his own, fight for the ball, run I'd have sympathy for him but the signs have been obvious. This is all on him and I would assume EtH had had enough of talking sense to him privately.

Good to have you back Pond, Please don’t leave it so long next time pal 😊👍

As a United fan i want to see him succeed but i havent seen anything from him that makes me think he will, top and bottom of it, it has to come from the player if we doesnt want to do it let him go we arent a charity but if he does give him another chance to do it as long as his head is in the right place he has a opportunity that most people would kill for he needs a wake up call and people to show him just how lucky he is.

Some players just don't flourish under certain managers or are just not ready for the EPL. Case in point De Bruyne and Salah at Chelsea. I think Jadon needs a new environment and mindset. Perhapsb a return to Germany will do

The fact is that no one knows the facts! ETH is watching training every day so I would suggest he knows more than anyone.. I think the clip of Sancho mentioning vibes when asked what kind of person he is speak volumes.

First time I've ever heard Martin Karen speak sense.

Rashford knows exactly what Sancho is going through!!!

I hardly ever agree with what Martin Keown has to say but he’s absolutely spot on on this, Ten Hag has tried every other avenue with Sancho, he’s tried putting his arm around his shoulder, he tried everything else and he himself said that things should be kept private at a football club but when he gets asked a question, he answers honestly. This was last chance saloon for Sancho, a kick up the backside and he didn’t get the memo. I liked Sancho at Dortmund but this is his 3rd year at United and we haven’t seen that Jadon Sancho once in a United shirt. I said in the summer that if someone puts £50m on the table for him, I’d take it. He has to go in January, it’s unfortunate but it just hasn’t worked out for him.

Martin is spot on here, knows whats expected at the very least n Sancho is no where near that

It's the attitude from the Solskjaer era that still cause a stir. Some of them were beyond fixing at this point and why Ten Hag wanted to get rid of Maguire and Mctominay along with the others sold this summer. And kicked Ronaldo out in January.

@pabloes588

8 ай бұрын

Yeah but if they sold Maguire and mctominay then they would’ve had to replaced them with 2 home grown players for £60m - £15 pay off to Maguire It was never gonna happen so why sell they? When Qatar come in they’ll pay whatever to get the best home grown players

Ffs Sancho, you've made me do something I hate the most, agree with Keown.

Karl what in the world are you saying. Sancho humiliated his manager publicly by calling him a liar and he has refused to apologise in front of the first team. If ETH let’s this slide then the next player will do the same thing

Keown has eyes he can see the lad has never put a shift in 👍🏼

The players of late have shown a total disrespect for the club and badge that is Man United, a instituted rich in glory and history, the players should be ashamed. I am a Arsenal fan but a long time admirer of the United of old.

ETH was asked why Sancho didn't start or even be in the team. He answered. Even Pep calls out players, he did it with DeBruyne last season. ETH knows there is a lazy culture at United, we saw it on the pitch under Solskjaer, he's trying to break that now. It was always going to ruffle feathers.

Where’s the clash here? Good listen though

It's dumb of ETH to put this out in the public domain. He could have said that it was just a decision and that he didn't need to justify it. It's his job to make those decisions.

Robinson might as well be everyone’s step dad all he does is defend players no matter what they do

Ten Hag is wrong for a lot of reasons: Why do we know that Sancho was sent away to take care of his mental health? Who put that information out. Was it just to show that Ten Hag was a caring manager? Nobody should have known that information and it should have been up to Sancho to tell us. The manager dug out the player and the player stood up for himself. He didn’t cuss out the manager or even mention him directly. The manager dug him out and the player has every right to defend himself publicly. Whether it’s true or not, Ten hag crossed the line. I wouldn’t apologise either.

I don’t understand how ETH is getting criticad for having standards. Sancho isn’t meeting them. Simple as that

If Sean dyche had said this bout one of his players it wouldint have talked about all before during and after international break it's ridiculous now drop it what would talk sport sky espn talk about without Manchester United ffs

This manager think he’s GOD, he’s bringing in his own player.

Why the manager always going to win this one. He could talk about the players however he wants .

Karl Robinson critisising Eric ten Hag is laughable lol i had to Google who Robinson was

@mg3554

9 ай бұрын

I'd say he has a big English fry every morning.

Sancho is an employee....................certain aspects of conduct when you are an employee let alone conduct within a world wide institution and United player are just non negotiable you step out of line then there are consequencies. Some people just cannot wear that United shirt its far to heavy for them

Where was the clash

thid didnt start with what ten hag said, this started last season, tennhag put his arm around him, tried to help him, kept whatever issues in house, sometimes you have to throw the responsibility on a player, if hes earniing 300k a week surely he can put in the effort ffs lol

Marin has got great point ,it’s all about the manager mailing him example for the others

Jim and Karl keeping it together whilst Keown enjoyed his Fati mention

The bone of contention is training standards not playing standard. Training standards pick the playing squad

It is certainly a vague criticism of Sancho which may mask much we know nothing of.

Great debate. I hope it works out for Jadon.

Ten Hag has done everything right so far. He’s raising the standards which have dropped so much in the past 10 years. If weak minded players can’t hack that then they need to leave.

Sancho is slowly burning his bridges, he's been given opportunity after opportunity and he hasn't taken any of them.

Don't often agree with Martin but I do on this

No Simon, No Show!

Let the manager do his job and manage the team the way he sees fit….we need to stop all this rubbish about protecting players who get paid a lot of money to do what they get signed to do, Sir Alex wasn’t successful because he let players do what they wanted to do 😡

Keown is speaking sense! Antony might not of done anything excellent but he has worked his socks off on the pitch.

People talk about his signing like they are anything like Ole’s English signings look at Maguire his a good player but he can’t play the type of football that is needed enough of this sit deep and hit on the counter. Anthony might not be prolific but he works his socks off he gets emotional and fights on the pitch if he has to the same energy in Martinez, Casemiro, Hojlund, Onana. We all sat here and wished we got De jong because we know how good he is on the ball and what he would bring to united. Players like Sancho he plays like his using his grand ma boots can’t stain them if not mama gonna kill me. We all saw the way Pellistri has been working hard to get in we never see that from Sancho it’s all vibes and inshalla rubbish

At what point did they CLASH?

I've become a big fan of Karl. Love hearing his perspective on not just Sancho but how the whole locker room works.

it's VERY rare I agree with Martin Keown but he is 100% correct on this one - Erik has wrapped Jadon in cotton wool, looked out for him and now he's being repaid with petulance. You had your chance Jadon, you blew it.