Mark Kermode reviews Terminator Genisys
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Mark Kermode reviews Terminator Genisys. John Connor sends his best friend Kyle Reese back through time to 1984 to rescue his mother Sarah from a murderous cyborg known as a Terminator. However, when Reese arrives he finds Sarah armed and ready for combat, under the protection of an ageing Terminator known as ‘Pops’. The timeline has been corrupted, nothing is as it should be and all bets are off as a brand new threat arises.
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At least it wasn't directed by McGeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Terminator Genisys "I thought it was all finished?" - Simon Mayo I'm buying the poster just to write that on it.
@Celjha
9 жыл бұрын
Lol great comment!
@olipajak9620
9 жыл бұрын
Tomanista lol Yeah didn't we all, I mean Terminator 2 is the true ending of the Terminator series :)
@olipajak9620
9 жыл бұрын
T3 for me was a re-hash of T2 it wasnt very good but that's just me
Jai Courtney is no Michael Biehn.
@RS-do1of
5 жыл бұрын
Biehn is such an underrated actor
Old Arnie looks like Mark Kermode.
T1 and T2, two of the best action/sci fi movies of all time, the whole series has been destroyed since. Its a bit like the alien movies as well.
@halloweenfriday
9 жыл бұрын
Funny how Aliens is directed by James Cameron. I gotta be honest with you, I like Alien 3 and Prometheus. They're not as good as the first two, but they're better than the AVP movies.
In the first Terminator Kyle had no idea what the T800 looked like. "I had to wait till he moved on you before I could zero him" he explained, but in the clip he somehow recognised the Terminator the second he saw him. If I'm able to pick apart one 45 second clip from this movie it doesn't bode well for the whole thing. I think I'll pass on this one.
@TheCookie176
9 жыл бұрын
TheRightEarOfNash I had the same problem and people say because the young Arnie terminator is is there dead and old Arnie terminator looks the same he assumes hes a Terminator as well
@TheRightEarOfNash
9 жыл бұрын
But young Arnie had most of his face missing so I'm not buying that.
@TheCookie176
9 жыл бұрын
TheRightEarOfNash i'm with you, I never said it was a good explanation, but it's the only sensible one i ever got :P
@killik2099
9 жыл бұрын
You're bang on there ,that's a doozy
@chumpey
9 жыл бұрын
Yes and later on you've got that dialogue where Reese says he's never seen a terminator old before. Implying that he's seen plenty of them young.
It was like fan fiction. Completely ludicrous.
@artsistellar
8 жыл бұрын
completely agree.
HOW DOES REESE RECOGNISE THE TERMINATOR WHEN IT TOOK HIM SO LONG IN THE FIRST?! THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE T800 -IT LOOKS HUMAN, "VERY HARD TO SPOT" FROM THE TRAILER THERES NO WAY ILL BE SEEING THIS, IT MUST HAVE BEEN WRITTEN BY PEOPLE THAT COULDNT EVEN BE BOTHERED TO LEARN THE ORIGINAL CANON
" I'll be back, again and again and again and again.".....don't bother coming back Arnie, just please go away.
The plot spoiler was in the trailer because Paramount just want to make lots of money before 2019 and James Cameron gets the rights back. They don't care how much Terminator Genysis made because they are going to make three movies regardless. Which I find slightly annoying. If they don't care whether it succeeds or fails why not just make one really good film. Or is that just too easy
I will see this.....A few years in the future on TV!
i avoided this for ages because of all the negativity towards it , seen it 2 times now , and while its not amazing , its still hugely watchable and pretty enjoyable.
Did Mark just say at 3:57 "The liquid metal thing from the first terminator"? Must have been referring to the T1000 which is T2.
please people in hollywood stop trying to make jai courtney a thing.
@nifralo2752
7 жыл бұрын
You know what was the most numerable thing about Jai Courtney in T5 ? Its that for most of the film he has bare feet. That's how generic and dull he was, and that's not even a new gimmick because Bruce Willis did the same thing in Die Hard back in the 80s and of course all those LOTR and Hobbit movies.
Notice Jai Courtney is not mentioned once prob because the most memorable thing about him is that he's barefooted for the bulk of the movie. What an orginal action star gimmick shame they already did it in Die Hard 30 years ago!
Actually, having just watched it - I have to say that I quite enjoyed it. Okay, it's not on a par with the first two films, but as a blockbuster it kept me entertained enough.
@nicholsonfile
Жыл бұрын
It's probably the best of the 3-5 movies! I have always enjoyed it. Having avoided all trailers for it really helped!! And there's great practical effects blended with the CGI!!
Terminator - Phil Collins.
What's up, studio webcam broken?
In my paper it said 'After this one, he won't be back!'
I thought it was enjoyable schlock! Certainly the best since T2. Nice effects an'all.
This one kinda plays like "Back to the Future - Part II... with Terminators". I enjoyed it.
As far as i'm concerned there's only 1 Terminator... The original. The first film is SO GOOD! Its so lean, and so scary! I watched it the other day, and i realised again how good it is... That said. Paramount want to make 3 Genysiys films. A new trilogy... Jesus... With Arnie coming back to be in the second Jenisys to collect his paycheck. I honestly can't comment if its better than T3 or Salvation. Because at least those films worked on a fundamental level of. No matter how stupid the story is, it makes sense. This film has so many plotholes you could plug it with one of Arnie's pecs!
@ddha0000
9 жыл бұрын
rorrt seriously, the second one is even better.
@ddha0000
9 жыл бұрын
rorrt seriously, the second one is even better.
@rorrt
9 жыл бұрын
the good hustler The second Terminator is better than the original? I disagree with you. In the first film Arnie plays a kind of slasher movie monster, in a sort of neo-noir sci-fi horror. Take one scene, no, i'll take 2 scenes. The scene in Tech Noir. Its a master class in tension and release. The rising tone in the music, broken with Kyle Reese's shotgun, the Terminator shooting the civilians. Its panicky, its genuinely scary, 9 year old me was crapping myself. You see the blood, its anything but glamorous. And the second scene i'll take is when Ginger, Sarah Connor's housemate is killed along with her boyfriend. It, like the Technoir scene, not in that order, the club shooting takes place after he drops in at her apartment. Its intimate, close up. And equally scary. Now... T2, there is no scene that matches it in terms of horror, or scare. And i know what you might say "but T2 is a masterclass in how to direct action!" And to that. I will agree. Its a seriously amazing action film. But personally, i never considered the original film an out and out action film. Its more of a thriller, neo-noir, slasher, sci-fi. So i just think it strayed way too far from the winning formula in The Terminator. Like the newest Terminator, i felt no real danger or threat. You have a robot, fighting a robot... In T1, you have 2 humans of flesh and blood, trying to outsmart this machine that is always thinking 2 moves ahead.
@rorrt
9 жыл бұрын
Fábio Monteiro To be honest, i would be lying if i said that the CGI from T2 hasn't stood up. Because it has. But i still think the puppetry and animatronics and makeup from T1 still look as great as ever. Its just the 2 films are too different. In a way you can't compare the 2. But obviously, as i've stated above the script from T1 is just so lean! There isn't a single ounce of fat on it.
@rorrt
9 жыл бұрын
MrBannystar To be honest, i kind of do. I love Alien for its slow pace, and suspenseful feel. And i do prefer Alien to Aliens. But similarly to Aliens and T2, i can enjoy each film for what it brings to the table (if i just ignore the original film) i just get the feeling that Aliens is a kind of Vietnam war allegory, with the lowtech defeating the hightech. Plus of course Aliens gets a little while to get going, but when it gets up to speed its relentless! Its far more fast paced than Alien, which again, in a way i like. But i still like Alien better, for what that brings to the table.
I recently watched this movie in 3D on IMAX and loved it...Terminator: Genisys has essentially created it's own paradox within the Terminator timeline... I thoroughly enjoyed Terminator: Genisys and I look forward to seeing both Emilia Clarke & Arnold Schwarzenegger return. ...Your review sounds alot like all the other critics of the movies that did not like it and had too many negative things to say about it...My personal advice is to not listen to any of those critics and to go see the movie for yourself...I actually am a fan of Emilia Clarke from Game of Thrones and was thrilled to watch her take on Sarah Connor...Many might have been upset by the events of this movie, but to be honest it is a time travel movie and unfortunately when you change past events it does effect future events as well and you don't always get the happy ending you wanted or expected...And if you are a fan of time travel movies than you should know that future is not set in stone...If past events can be changed to create an alternative future timeline than the same thing can happen when you travel into the future and alter an event that effects the past.
Boo! Bring back the webcams! Please.
Linda Hamilton is the real star of the Terminator series. The ones without her have sucked.
@Shadowman4710
9 жыл бұрын
tr3vk4m Personally I thought Lena Headey was better as Sarah Conner in the television series.
@jonaskoelker
3 жыл бұрын
> Linda Hamilton is the real star of the Terminator series. The ones without her have sucked. I feel the same way about Michael Biehn ;-) [T2 doesn't suck, but it's missing the horror elements of T1, the repeated flash-forwards to the future war, the broken man who grew up in hell, the demonically possessed red eyes and the quasi-undead metal skeleton. T3 is fun popcorn action if you turn your brain off and semi-ignore the name "Connor" even as it pushes the timeline forward. I haven't seen any other ones.]
@jackmurphy6864
Ай бұрын
And the latest one with her sucked pretty bad too. Though not quite as bad as this one.
this was great! sort of like back to the future 2 as well
With the volume turned up to eleventy-stupid - ha ha, Kermode makes me laugh, he has a good turn of phrase.
John Connor sent back a version of Kyle Reese that got knocked out by the Terminator in 10 seconds
I have a soft spot for all things Terminator so I'm going to positively be open-minded about this. Despite my brain trying to say otherwise, I'm going with my heart here.
At the end was he talking about Jurassic World or the terminator movie when he said he hated it after 5 seconds
Even that unenthusiastic review made it sound like it had a lot more heart than Terminator Salvation lol
I enjoyed the movie a lot as a Terminator fan. Having said that, I wouldn't recommend it to people that aren't already fans. I knew that what I was watching wasn't actually "good", but I liked it for what it was. I kind of wish they would make a movie picking up where "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" left off, but I know that show wasn't even popular enough to get a third season.
Salvation was a brave attempt to do something fresh, this new movie is just treading old ground and playing as safe as possible. T2 was the best and still looks great!
Really enjoyed this. I think, as usual, Mark was very harsh. I was expecting the first twenty minutes to be OK, then the whole thing to fizzle out. It didn't, but maybe I just like stories about cyborgs who can become more human than humans.
2:30 'which I have because...' ??
I think a lot more people, including myself, would have enjoyed Terminator Genisys if they hadn't shown that twist. It was ridiculous, there were so many other things they could have shown to get butts in seats, just play on the fact that Arnie is back. I'm pretty sure that trailer might have turned a lot of people off, as it almost turned me off seeing the film in protest. Rant over.
After reading the reviews and then watching it I was a bit surprised most of them are that harsh...not nearly as bad as they're making it out to be.
Seven seconds in and Im already not gonna finish this video. As soon as I head "Genisys better than Salvation" I was like nope.
Astounded Mark said that Gynysys was better than Terminator 3. T3 had its problems but at least it's a coherent, enjoyable film.
Just watched this. It's hella fun. Good gags, good action, a flimsy plot, sure, but some touching moments, with Arnie serving as a surrogate father to Sarah. Obviously, offensive to Termiantor purists, but this franchise train ain't stopping, so hop for the ride.
@Paul-qe1jn
4 жыл бұрын
Pops dying would've elevated the movie a bit. But they brought him back like an upgraded toy and diffused the sadness & depth of his death.
If John connor wasn't conceived in 1984, he wouldn't be a great leader in the future right? At least he would be younger. Let's say skynet was blown up before it took over the world, then Terminators wouldn't exist, right? Not spoiling anything, just something to think about while watching Genesys.
"We could have really lived without it". Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but I didn't see the purpose of the film when I saw it on the TV, I must admit...
Terminator 2 Trailer showed and spoiled that Arnie will be a good temrinator too.
That scene at 1:16 has to be one of the dumbest ever. She just told Kyle-light that "we" killed the dead terminator in the back, yet the dunce still grabs the gun and tries to shoot old Arnold. Who wrote that?
It's actually not that bad of a movie, I feel a lot of people who haven't watched it are just going with the common consensus and saying that it's terrible.
I grew up watching the terminator films with my mum, we’re both massive fans, we went together to the cinema to see this film and both knowing full well that it was an atrocious film, we enjoyed it so much, it’s good fun but please don’t watch it expecting anything good
Thanks for the review, I won't be seeing this now.
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This movie is what I feared Jurassic World would be, just relying on nostalgia to get by at the expense of any development and serious plot.
oh hes cruel, so very right but so cruel. i enjoyed it, it was good. i missed the trailer :) :) it is like telling you thing about darth whatsit thats like mentionn no red suited fella
Great review. I think I liked the first act more than you, but the rest of it less. And I totally agree about the SNL skit. In fact, I think if the whole thing had actually been done as a comedy, it could've been a better movie.
What I found strange in this film was that i really couldn't stand kyle reese or sarah connor. Their interactions were cringe worthy! They didn't appear to like each other whatsoever unlike the first film where it felt natural that they fell in love almost immediately. Also, they've messed around with the timelines in this story so much now that it's full of ridiculous plot holes and even more ridiculous contrivances to try and cover up some of the worst holes.
Soon to come - Terminator vs Robocop.
@Infametheus
9 жыл бұрын
Oh God, dont give them any ideas. The Robocop remake was dreadful.
@cgdimension
9 жыл бұрын
Phuckaducker then vs Predator, then vs Aliens the vs Superman....eek:)
Problem is you compare to T1 and T2 which couldn't be beaten, so every Terminator film since though it might be good, will never hit the standard and for reviewers like Mark it becomes like a shark at feeding time...actually enjoyed it, good film.
Saw it today, maybe my expectations were really low but I was surprised by how enjoyable and fun it was.
Also, is Jai Courtney trying to make a career as an action franchise killer? First Die Hard, now this...
Nexus? Why steel something from Star Trek Generations?
Garbage film. An embarrassment to the first two.
I really loved it, sorry!
Sad :(
I'll see it because I've seen the other 4. I love the first 2. 3 I didn't think was terrible. Not good, but it had some fun sequences, and Arnold is fun to watch. Also the actual ending when judgement day happens, and John Connor assumes leadership, is a great ending. Terminator Salvation is incredibly boring. Dull directing, dull action scenes, just dull everything really. Christian Bale tried, but Sam Worthington is so incredibly bland as an actor (like Jai Courtney). I dislike the trailers for Genisys, but I'm going to see it anyway, as why the hell not. The IMC cinema in Dun Laoghaire Ireland has tickets for €5 on Thursday if you book online, so I'll probably get that, as I don't really want to pay full price for it. Maybe the film will surprise me. Or maybe the film will be hot garbage like the trailers suggest, and make me realize that Terminator 1 & 2 are so much better than it, and that you can't fuck up greatness. I guess Arnold will be fun, as he normally always is, and the first 20 minutes seem at least interesting.
I watched an entire hour of thise dammed movie and they didn't go back to the early 90s to muck around in the background of t2. Also why didn't the soppy tart exsplain "Pops" the terminator was reprogrammed.....
This isn't even a film, it's a giant middle finger to everyone who hails the first and second movies as a couple of the best sci-fi features ever made! Another example of how much the studio executives don't give a damn about making good films anymore! It pains me just to talk about it!😡
Don't know if anyone commented on this yet, but the actress playing Sarah doesn't resemble Linda Hamilton. It threw me off from the movie. They may or may not be the same age, but Linda gave off a more mature presence ... in that first movie. There's a disconnect. The movie is telling me she's Sarah and I don't buy it.
Bill Paxton or Michael Biehn?
Emilia Clarke is horribly miscast in this film, i think it's pretty much agreed that she isnt a very good actress in all her stuff (well, GoT). Seems like a lovely person, and she is hot, just not a good actress.
@dragonknightleader1
9 жыл бұрын
liamdurks90 I think she's a better actress than most people give her credit for, and if she were just a voice-over, she's...fine? But yeah, miscast is the best word, and I have to blame the casting director for saying "eh, close enough."
@BluePencilReview
9 жыл бұрын
dragonknightleader1 If the script wasn't very good, even Meryl Streep can't turn it into gold in fairness
@lordmunch1
9 жыл бұрын
BluePencilReview that's true some of the lines were just bad. But she's not a very good Sarah Connor.
Oh my days what a bad bad movie. Its far worse than T3 and Salvation. For all their faults, of which there are many, they at least have solid structure and tone and tell a story.T:Genisyseyussis is an absolute convoluted mess of a film, total garbage and terrible effort for a terminator movie.
I watched it recently. It's a good action film, nothing special. Better than the tired Terminator 3 and leagues better than the god awful Terminator Salvation.
I personally thought T3 and the TV show were better than this. In Genisys there was a little bit of subtext to the movie i liked correlating how we're controlled by our phones and devices to skynet taking us over, but essentially this is an action movie and unfortunately the action scenes we're bland and unoriginal. T-1000 chases - was done better in T2 school bus chase - the crane truck scene from T3 was better Helicopter chase - already done in T2, but much better and less ridiculous and i just hate how the franchise has turned pg-13, the terminators used to be scary because of what they could do to you. Now they'll just pick you up and throw you.
Terminator 2 is the real ending to the franchise.
everything after T2 has been an abomination, absolute disgrace.
The idiotic re-imagining of the spelling of the word Genesis alone is reason enough to despise this movie... i don't need to watch it to know it's going to be a massive bag of shite...
i like T4 just me i hate this one
You should warn people BEFORE you reveal a Terminator, really.
Saw this last night, I thought it was ok, glad I didn't see any trailers for it, it was never going to live up to the first two but it certainly wasn't unwatchable, just maybe not as repeatable as the originals
Whilst the film maybe very well acted, the film suffers A confusing & unfocused story, muddled direction & A poor lack of storytelling. (29%) (1.5/5 stars) (negative)
A little better than Salvation, which was the worst movie I have ever seen in the theater.
James Cameron will say and do anything for money🤑
Disagree, I think T3 and TS were both better than this... at least those had story lines that actually made a lick of sense.
What is going on in hollywood!? Why are they actually casting Jai courtney in movies!!??? are they so delusional.
Avoid at all costs, if you love T1+2. I actually fell asleep in the cinema watching this. Lots of action but very bland acting and bad/confused story - no empathy for characters and so no real suspense/threat/reason to care.
The clip looks more like a rubbish Freiberg and Seltzer parody movie of Terminator...
God it looks dreadful.
Just watched this. As I suspected it is utter tripe. Easily on my list of the worst movies ever made.
Saw it today and really enjoyed it. Obviously nowhere near as good as the first two. Lazy review mark, i think you're over using your smack bang wallop a bit too much, this film actually had a interesting approach to the time travelling, different past / future idea , and the action was decent not like one of the transformers or iron man sequels , which is smack bang wallop clang clang clang etc . I really think you're over simplifying your reviews these days
very disappointed with this movie.
Is it bad Genisys was my favorite Terminator Film? T3 was ok (not great but not as bad as people say) and I loved T2. I actually found the original film highly boring. Salvation was boring too.
Bad acting... Confusing pointless storyline.. Arnold is too old... This film is just awful.
awful
This film was awful. Seriously, it might be worse than 3 and salvation. It sucks.
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Awful movie.
Total rubbish film