Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Listening: listening.com/lex and use code LEX to get one month free - Cloaked: cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off - Notion: notion.com/lex - Eight Sleep: eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get $1 per month trial 0:54 - Entrepreneurship 15:48 - Shark Tank 26:13 - How Mark made first billion 52:24 - Dallas Mavericks 57:49 - DEI debate 1:33:42 - Trump vs Biden 1:36:04 - Immigration 1:45:37 - Drugs and Big Pharma 2:01:38 - AI 2:05:49 - Advice for young people

@VintageBassArchive

Ай бұрын

I'm happy you are friends with destiny

@allenrouse7443

Ай бұрын

Total communist and pedo!!

@VintageBassArchive

Ай бұрын

Destiny debates REAL nazi like James allsup.... you sound further left than destiny @allenrouse7443

@radhakrishnanmanickavasaga124

Ай бұрын

Waiting for Sundar pichai and satya nadella

@deejay7339

Ай бұрын

Mark looks like g-man in the thumbnail

Regardless of what you think of Mark Cuban or anything he said here, the fact that he created Cost Plus Drugs is a gift to humanity.

@ABitefLife

Ай бұрын

It blows my mind that so many people are so hateful of him when he is in fact doing something positive in a sector that is so corrupt and powerful , just because he isn’t a Elon/Trump goon …. His advocacy for fairness and transparency in such a brutally restrictive and self serving corporate interest sector should be celebrated and appreciated not torn down and bad mouthed because he has a different political leaning than you . Yet another reason why I despise two party politics . Its near impossible for anything good to be fought for when the total aims are for destruction of the other side

@FailedNBAComissioner

Ай бұрын

He lies a lot in this video.

@FailedNBAComissioner

Ай бұрын

This is a dishonest interview.

@lukeb3930

Ай бұрын

Agreed 👍💯

@writemeyers

Ай бұрын

None of his detractors would've started Cost Plus Drugs because this imaginary tidal wave of "shitty people" might benefit from them.

It is not Reverse Discrimination, it is just Discrimination.

@milehighyt2097

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@upvotecomment2110

Ай бұрын

DEI racism with extra steps

@dg-ov4cf

Ай бұрын

You Sound Even Woker Then Libs, When I Grew Up We Didnt Call "It" Nothing Because We Just Lived In Harmany No One Was Racist Any More Then Obama And His Puppet Joe Made Every One Woke On Purpose Because Its About Control. Look It Up

@FastAndEasy2010

Ай бұрын

Give me an example of dei being racist

@dunar1005

Ай бұрын

I thought the same in the first second, but I think he does not mean discriminating, white people, but preferring not white people. which sounds the same at first but the intention is a different one. The outcome is still bad of course.

Gotta love how he keeps saying Dylan McDermott (the guy from The Practice) instead of MulV(VEINY)aney lmfao

@SeenaAbedi

29 күн бұрын

Lol. I had to google it and then google the name Lex Fridman was saying in order to figure it out.

@andrewnelson9570

29 күн бұрын

I started thinking he was talking about someone I didn't know.

@hansderaeymaeker9137

28 күн бұрын

.....wth does he refer to him as 'she'? He's either woke or awake..... seems like he flip flops between the two the whole way through the discussion....

@tagtv

26 күн бұрын

He said it so often, I started wondering if he knew something we didn't, such as Dylan having also transitioned from Mulvaney to McDermot.

@J-YouTube324

19 күн бұрын

Was it intentional??

I like how he caught himself about tuition increases. He was going to say the real reason and he decided to go with, "Not well run businesses." I always find it impressive when smart people convince themselves the fantasy world is real due to social or political pressures.

@anthonybrookes7287

Ай бұрын

Ooh fancy

@sushi0085

Ай бұрын

It’s due to stupid administrative costs.

@stevep927

Ай бұрын

@@peebrayen6564 He screwed Yahoo out of billions

@stevep927

Ай бұрын

@@sushi0085 Nope. It's due to Obama taking over student loans which gives universities subsidized income

@cmccoy793

Ай бұрын

bingo. @@sushi0085

Lex been working overtime lately with these guests. Crazy how far he’s come as a podcast/interviewer

@shalomedome1614

Ай бұрын

It’s all pre meditated

@travisvadnais1853

Ай бұрын

​@@shalomedome1614 What you saying it is all an acted then ?

@travisvadnais1853

Ай бұрын

Have you listened to he's first episode on Joe Rogan podcast. Lex is a smart person.

@sandrawilliams4874

Ай бұрын

I think he's working extra hard right now before he goes on his trip to the Amazon Rainforest!

@holyfook1238

Ай бұрын

​@JS71.s That's funny you're literally just mad because he created networks for himself. I can tell you live a sad life.

I've worked as a pharmacy technician for 11 years and it feels so good to see someone with influence illuminate how fucked up the drug business is. Everything he said is completely true and not some isolated thing. If nothing else, this is such great work from Mark.

@Singlebarrel2323

Ай бұрын

Yeah. Mark fucking Cuban is trying to help poor people. I understand this is a personally important topic for you but you can’t be that stupid

@Singlebarrel2323

Ай бұрын

It’s just a business that makes him money and creates an image that he is doing it for humanity. It’s the same shit as bill gates. Claims to do everything for humanity but is the biggest monocrop agriculturist in history. He’s destroying our farm land while y’all praise him for supporting the jab. Why can’t people see through the Rockefeller propaganda billionaires use 😂

@allieflounder5764

Ай бұрын

Totally agree. People want to hate on him because he may disagree with them. It’s weak because he is honest and does good. Nobody trusts anyone anymore and it’s sad.

@AfroGaz71

Ай бұрын

​​@@allieflounder5764there is very little in the way of truth coming from him. Nobody is tarnishing his name. He did that all by himself with some truely ignorant takes.

@JohnnyYork

Ай бұрын

Pointing out how obviously broken it is deserves praise - so one can simply profit (like Mark Cuban) is, does not. Him pretending to care is simply part of his business plan pitch.

The one who acts has an impact on everyone ,while the impact of everyone's action fall on one this interconnection between job,business and humanity illustrates how they are all intricately linked.

This is such a great interview! Thank you, Lex and Mark, for having a candid conversation (with differing viewpoints on many issues), but staying objective and not getting emotional. The world needs more of this! I learned a lot from each of you, and I think so many valid points were made for us to ponder as a society. 👏👏

@JustinWhite-

29 күн бұрын

I’ve been #Trump4Lyfe until I heard his opinion on Biden vs Trump, THEN I had a customer today and we talked politics for 45min and she was #Biden4Lyfe….. Now I’m conflicted 😂

@mtb_carolina

29 күн бұрын

@@JustinWhite- yes, the part about turnover in Trump’s staff, right? That was an interesting and meaningful point! I find it advantageous for us to learn all that we can (factually speaking). We must be radically open-minded and willing to change our minds…About politics and all things in life. Thanks for the comment!

@JustinWhite-

29 күн бұрын

@@mtb_carolina Couldn’t agree more 👍

@misterwallace3479

27 күн бұрын

You sound like ass kissing corporate guy

@mcdiesel7505

26 күн бұрын

​@@JustinWhite-Nobody 4 lyfe! No Trump tho! Find another Republican

Such a dishonest guy. "Nobody is forcing DEI on companies", meanwhile the state/federal government force DEI quotas on corporations.

@channtastic

Ай бұрын

Yes and publicly traded companies have shareholders like vanguard, state street, and blackrock. Your boss has a boss. He has in fact lost control of his company.

@Singlebarrel2323

Ай бұрын

BlackRock and the rest will tell you exactly what to do and if you don’t you better have good bodyguards and a piggy bank saved up to disappear

@shellderp

Ай бұрын

and yet the requirements from executive teams are all the same at all companies, and your bonus depends on hiring a certain number of black people

@ludwigvonsowell5347

Ай бұрын

CIVIL RIGHTS LAWSUITS: which are kangaroo courts and shakedowns.

@GolfNewsNow

Ай бұрын

Not to mention the corporate equality index which affects interest rates when borrowing money

It annoys me how whenever people talk in favor of DEI it’s always the most vague language. Sounds like it’s directly out of Atlas Shrugged

@heinrichreynolds7987

Ай бұрын

And always looking for moral equivalents

@RobertEgbers

Ай бұрын

It is

@mrblaze187

Ай бұрын

We've had race quotas for 20+ years, tax benefits for hitting certain thresholds.

@kylewilliams6769

Ай бұрын

I guess I just don’t understand the concern about it in the business world. EEO prevents companies from discriminating based on race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc. The 2 companies I’ve worked for in the last decade have both had DEI departments, and they host some trainings and optional seminars but I’ve never heard of them influencing hiring decisions or trying to shame or guilt anyone. Just tried to promote general awareness and understanding of people’s differences. An example would be, oh if you are going to take your team to lunch, check in to see if anyone has dietary restrictions before you choose the restaurant, either for religious or other reasons. So yeah I feel like people that haven’t had direct experience with DEI in a company think it’s a much bigger deal than it is.

@patrickozga3486

Ай бұрын

@@kylewilliams6769 The D in DEI stands for diversity, which is a dog whistle for less white people, simple as. SCOTUS ruled that race based quotas in universities are in fact discriminatory. Fallowing that logic, the same goes for all other sectors of the economy. If you mandate that your company must fill a specific percentage of their ranks by a certain groups, that intrinsically means that you will discriminate against others based on their immutable characteristics because you are hiring based on category and not merit or credentials. But I guess there needs to be a lawsuit from each sector that travels up the court system to address this madness. Its hard to believe this has to be explained.

Mark cuben is really good and humble person. I like that he shares his life story without leaving anything out. Good job again lex. You’re getting better and better lex.

I have so much respect for Lex and the incredible vast range of awesome human beings that he finds for these podcasts. He is a great host with real hard questions.

@Eric-ue5mm

23 күн бұрын

He rarely asks any hard questions. Come on...

Where is Mark Cuban's NBA DEI office. I want to submit my application for Dallas Mavericks center.

@jumpstart55million

Ай бұрын

If you're a white 7 footer whose reasonably athletic, with solid fundamentals and a good jump shot, he'd gladly give you a shot. That's all Dei is, they're giving qualified people from diverse backgrounds the opportunity to apply. And funny enough, what the NBA is doing in Europe by recruiting often white Euroleague players is, in a sense, very similar to most to Dei initiatives. The people they're hiring are qualified, they're just not white which is what rubs people the wrong way. White people feel like their going to get hired out of the economy which is silly. DEI dosent mean don't hire white people, it just means recruit a little more ethnically diverse qualified people. That's it. Anything else is mindless Neo Goebbels talking points.

@mgscheue

Ай бұрын

Are you qualified? If so, go for it.

@khall187

Ай бұрын

​@@mgscheuenothing about DEI says you need to be qualified. That's the problem.

@WaywardZombie

Ай бұрын

Sports is merit based. The premise is the best athlete

@beansdestroyer

Ай бұрын

@@mgscheue whoosh. What do you think the E in DEI stands for genius?

Can't help but notice he didn't care about the war on information until elon bought twitter.

@travisjazzbo3490

Ай бұрын

EXACTLY!

@RobertEgbers

Ай бұрын

He is so in his feelings that Elon is richer than him. Lightening strikes the same place only once Mr Cuban.

@JunkieMonkey321

Ай бұрын

member how twitter was "private company" and could ban whoever they wanted, including the sitting president, with no complaints from the left? now some news anchor gets banned and the media cries "free speech"... just hilarious irony.

@dunar1005

Ай бұрын

Could very much be that this is just how you heard about it. It’s not like he spends 24 seven to be on top of every topic ever.

@brianfantana6522

Ай бұрын

Even people with 4billion get mad when someone else has 210billion.

Wow! Really liked this interview! I think Lex is the best in the business right now! He seems to have a way to touch on important points without having to force them on the person being interviewd. It is more like a conversation and, weather you agree or not, it is done in a direct way, cutting to the chase in many topics, but still maintaining comfort tone both to the interviwee (is that a word?) as to the viewers. Well done!

@acasualviewer5861

Ай бұрын

Its how the old time journalists in the 80s were... nowadays all of the interviewers badger their guests with their own opinions... Lex just interviews one guy with one opinion, then later a guy with the opposite opinion. And lets them explain themselves fully. I end up respecting both of the interviewees regardless if I agree with their opinion or not. At least I can see where they're coming from.

@ruthb8101

28 күн бұрын

He’s got great ego control, he’s genuine, and allows for organic conversation. He’s a rare podcaster in that he doesn’t need to hear himself speak nonstop. He’s a great listener and he engages conversationally.

@mcdiesel7505

25 күн бұрын

@@acasualviewer5861 Lies

Really enjoyed that! Mark is a interesting individual!!! Living the dream! Mahalo nui 🙏🏽🤙🏽🌺

Lex on DEI: "The shitty people don't get fired." Yes.

@Steven_Edwards

Ай бұрын

So the implication is that all the non-white males are shitty performers...

@DieTryingK

Ай бұрын

In what world does this happen LOL? Like literally you are BRAINWASHED. You think you can do a shitty job andjust keep your job cos your black? LMFAO Please show me which job so i can sign up right away.

@kcmark3

Ай бұрын

Reality: white male CEOs making 10+ million per year and their corporation isn't making money and\or losing money You: the janitor is black and that's not right

@christominded4726

Ай бұрын

The new mindset in corporate America is to focus on the employees strengths even though he or she is toxic.

@jdbroders64

Ай бұрын

DEI by design is anti-white racism. Full stop.

When it challenges Mark’s worldview: “well there’s nuance” When it’s for his worldview: “I’m stating the objective truth”

@CMA418

Ай бұрын

That’s like every human ever.

@harleydavidson1014

Ай бұрын

​@@CMA418Ummm no its not its the difference between open and honest people and propagandists like Mark and Im thinking maybe yourself...

@CMA418

Ай бұрын

@@harleydavidson1014 There are no open and honest people. At best there are people who are good at convincing others they are being open and honest. And even good at convincing themselves. No one is immune to self-deception. That's something I agree with Jordan Peterson on, "you're not even transparent to yourself."

@Maxx134a

Ай бұрын

Mark is on Biden's side. That's all you need to know how complicit he must be, because he is not 1gn0rant. Everything that came out of his mouth was ambiguous.

@Maxx134a

Ай бұрын

​@@CMA418great way to live your life thinking everyone is lying to you😅

This is most definitely a great interview with Mark. Here Lex exposes eloquently a refreshing and different point of view regarding the business and the academic world, politics and culture. Ty Lex!

I watch Lex on KZread on my TV. It takes time to get on my PC and comment, I seldom do and have never posted here before. I watch many of Lex's interviews, but have never had the desire to comment enough to actually jump in. This interview with Mark Cuban was excellent, the most timely and important interview I have seen here. It changed my perception of Cuban and my perception of Lex. One thing that bothered me was the non inclusion of Cuban's deal with gambling. How does that fit in his desire to do good? Why was it left out of the interview?

Tbh i'm not a fan of Mark Cuban as far as I know him, but this platform really allows me to way in on the guest and for what they stand for. Lex fridman, thank you, i'm very grateful for that.

@kristopherleslie8343

Ай бұрын

Why not

@thelvadam5113

Ай бұрын

@@kristopherleslie8343scumy

@citizenblue

Ай бұрын

It's sad that most people refuse to even listen to people on the opposing side of their beliefs. It's wise to hear all sides of an issue.

@billj4525

Ай бұрын

@@citizenblue I agree. People who only stick to one side are never really right either, despite what they think. You get a much more realistic and accurate view of things when you're not biased and take in all sides of an issue. Politics is like that a lot right now. Both the left and the right are both way off because both sides are so biased and unrealistic, and they are really only hearing things from people who agree with them, and they aren't realistic on opposing issues anyway, and definitely aren't legitimately listening. Confirmation bias specifically leads both sides to being wrong a lot of the time in politics and basically all issues. Politics is just an example though. Your statement is true in almost all types of debates and arguments.

@citizenblue

Ай бұрын

@billj4525 💯. And the end result is, most people don't realize how close to agreeing with other people they actually are. The more polarizing an issue, the more likely people are to be on the extreme,

On 1:07:00 when Mark asks who is forcing you. I have one point to add that multiple invest management corps use DEI as a parameter if they are investing in your company or not.

@PraveenKumar-bo7fw

Ай бұрын

They are few and far between.

@erikERXON

Ай бұрын

Mark is a liar same as Lex. what kind of interview would u expect out of two delusional bafoons?

@anonymeister123

Ай бұрын

@@PraveenKumar-bo7fw good

@user-zm8gk6hv3y

Ай бұрын

That’s the right of the investor. I’m sure there are plenty of wealthy conservative investors willing to invest without any DEI program in place

@jcefalo2001

Ай бұрын

It’s true, I work for one and there’s no way I could’ve contested doing the training. Anyone who says they are few and far between or not many do, obviously doesn’t work for a large investment firm.

This was a wonderful conversation to listen to. Mark and Lex were both insightful on their own, and respectful and curious even when arguing. I think its pretty clear that mark will run for pres in 2028, and I would love to hear more discussion about that in the future from both sides

Without weighing in on the DEI debate within the comments, its interesting what a hot button issue it is that the most comments and liked comments at the top are by far about DEI. I felt like it was one of many many topics touched, some more substantiative. I can see both sides of the debate, and wish it wasnt such another wedge for everyone to hate on each other.

@stevem437

24 күн бұрын

It's because the underlying concept is discrimination based on race, sex, and sexual orientation. It's just done in a way that spins it to make it sound acceptable. I'm all for inclusion, but that shouldn't be something that gets someone a job over another person. It all sounds nice in theory, until you realize Asians who are more qualified with higher test scores, are being denied entry to colleges in favor of less qualified individuals... Simply because of race.

The dictionary is society's unsung hero, guarding words from ideological hijacking by those exploiting our linguistic complacency. Reclaim language, reclaim truth.

@sebastiansirvas1530

Ай бұрын

Sadly, even the dictionary can be subverted (and already has, partially).

@tr13kymusic97

Ай бұрын

Language adapts

@snicklefritzfry

Ай бұрын

Well put.

@turquoise7817

Ай бұрын

yeah, the dictionary given to us 2000 years ago and has remained unchanged that whole time

@snicklefritzfry

Ай бұрын

@@tr13kymusic97"mutates" might be a more appropriate word

DEI is racism

@pr1ce213

Ай бұрын

why?

@danj4842

Ай бұрын

This week you're supposed to be complaining about squatters taking your homes now. Didn't you get the memo?

@leoskiii5860

Ай бұрын

@@pr1ce213 it treats people differently based on the color of their skin. What do you mean why???

@leoskiii5860

Ай бұрын

@@danj4842 oh, yeah, no I agree it’s terrible to have the value of citizenship degrade in this country to the point where you illegals are openly advertising, the ability to take property away. I think it’s odd that you trivialize it.

@RJCE420

Ай бұрын

​@@danj4842 People who don't own a home don't have to worry about squatters. So, how did you get that memo?

I think that most people on both sides truly want what's best for everyone but have different beliefs on how we do that and agree that implementation is often flawed. Some issues are certainly more polarized than others (i.e. when does human life begin?). Those are harder to achieve compromise. There also seems to be a lot of hypocrisy on both sides. Glad some people can have grown up conversations and discuss their positions without hyperbolic rhetoric that is so prevalent on social media. Thank you Lex for providing this forum!

@DavidSaintloth

24 күн бұрын

The problem is for the individuals who are vocally standing on an anti-woke platform. The real racists of the past are hard to distinguish from their own argument and they get frustrated at being called what appears obvious to everyone else.

@Thnkrgames

20 күн бұрын

Most people do not want whats best for everyone, most people want what's best of themselves. This is evidence by their actual behavior

@charlesgallagher1376

4 күн бұрын

The Bible says life begins with the first breath, “The Breath of Life.”

This was another good one. Makes me wish I was smart. But the next best thing is I have hearing and I can hear smart people wanting and doing good things. And to hear a super rich person that seems to want good for all to make this a better world.

1:26:00 It's Dylan Mulvaney, not Dylan McDermott (one of my favorite actors from "The Practice"). 😅

@creasefold1986

Ай бұрын

dermot mulroney

@jamescarbon3853

Ай бұрын

The Practice was so good

@creasefold1986

Ай бұрын

@@jamescarbon3853 the ep with Donnie Walhberg was fantastic

@HeyCutie90

Ай бұрын

Dylan McDermott is now canon

@boredapathetic

Ай бұрын

well i’ve never seen those two in the same room have you? 🧐

Lex, you’re so damn good at what you do. Appreciate you brother! 🤙🏽

Really good respectful conversation between two highly intelligent people.

Lex one discussing politics involving Biden: loves anecdotal data Lex discussing Elon: I hate anecdotal data

@brockgan8941

14 күн бұрын

He is a flawed human. Thanks for pointing this out.

Mark Cuban’s wealth is hindering his ability to see reality. His perspective on DEI is both incorrect and insincere. Like many advocates for DEI, he simply breaks down the terms-diversity, equity, and inclusion-portraying them as inherently beneficial. While on a superficial level, most people might agree with these ideals, many do not fully understand their implementation or recognize the potentially corrosive impact they can have on society.

@benjaminschimpf421

Ай бұрын

Very well said

@foxshot97

Ай бұрын

such as?

@strykert2007

Ай бұрын

@@foxshot97 Such as prioritizing certain races when enrolling collage students. On a surface level it seams like a good idea but with a deep understanding you will start to see some problems with it. The Supreme Court already made a ruling on the race based enrollment policies of universities in America and found it unconstitutional. Why should we prioritize one race over another in society doesn’t this go against equality and the civil rights act of 1964?

@JunkieMonkey321

Ай бұрын

its always the same with these holier-than-thou leftists. it was the same with antifa. theyd just say "oh, antifa means anti fascist, and youre not fascist, are you? how could you possibly have an issue with them!", meanwhile theyre burning cities down, beating people, covering their own faces and marching in the streets chanting that they want dead cops. its ideological posession.

@debbie4938

Ай бұрын

DEI is “ didn’t earn it”

Thanks Lex for memory road with Mark Cuban of early tech successes, especially in Cali & Texas! Exciting and dynamicTimes!

Great work from both men. Lex has done his HW. Mark is intelligent without pretentiousness. The fact that we can "all" access this is a gift.

Thanks Lex, for the awesome interview with Mark Cuban. Your dedication to delivering thought-provoking content on your podcast is truly appreciated 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

So Mark basically concedes colleges have an issue but somehow cannot connect the dots that colleges feed people into these corporations, ideas and all. 🤦

You never know how out of touch with reality a person is until you hear them in this kinda long form conversation

@Johncandy25

29 күн бұрын

I love long form. Good or bad it gives a person an opportunity to reveal themselves . The political debate format has to be changed. Asking the most complicated questions and then saying “you have 30 seconds” is a waste of everyone’s time and outdated.

@mcdiesel7505

26 күн бұрын

Mark is not out of touch

@DavidSaintloth

24 күн бұрын

If you are implying passive aggressively that Mark is out of touch then you missed the entire point of much of his insights. Here: " Twitter is not real life."

@ColeQuortrup

21 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly. This interview really surprised me.

@brockgan8941

14 күн бұрын

He is misguided on several things in this podcast, especially on the DEI stuff. But he is certainly not out of touch.

Every meeting table deserves 1 or many sound proof, polstered phone box. Maybe including a see through glass for the screen

A Russian and a Cuban sit down for a conversation lol

@davefischer2344

Ай бұрын

Lmfao

@barnsnoble3105

Ай бұрын

Two Russian jews sit down for a conversation.

@user-bq6vh9fk8r

Ай бұрын

@@barnsnoble3105 accurate

@chrism.1131

Ай бұрын

Mark Cuban for president.

@makinen06

Ай бұрын

u mean 2 smart jews

We need petite Asian men in NBA. You have a team, dont you? Be inclusive Mr Mark.

@pepeepupoo

Ай бұрын

Don't forget about women represention

@sebastiansirvas1530

Ай бұрын

Yeah, he is just a dishonest hack. He cannot rationally justify his position against woke nonsense. In fact, he probably pushes it for his own benefit and to the detriment of anyone else that is not on board with those disgusting ideologues.

@NaxorRaxor

Ай бұрын

Totally ignored the point mark is making, quite embarrassing on your part.

@sebastiansirvas1530

Ай бұрын

@@NaxorRaxor No, DEI is simply racism at the expense of competence, motivated by a bunch of ideologues and supported by gigantic, State sponsored corporations such as Blacktock through ESG and BRIDGE.

@sdkfgnrjdi

Ай бұрын

This is what I’ve been saying to supporters of affirmative action. Give every basketball team an Asian quota.

What Mark say about people getting too attached to a certain platform, political ideal and information is very insightful and true. We should always come in with an open mind and regard everything we hear with a critical eye.

Thanks, Lex, for another insightful listen. Don’t agree with everything I heard but I liked the concepts and delivery. Btw, success is not luck.

Mark hires athletes that help him win on the court, or athletes best suited for the job..... So why would he DEI hire at the business level?

@kekaitan

Ай бұрын

Like Luca Doncic?

@claywrangler1993

Ай бұрын

bro athletics is entirely stats based. Wtf stats you gonna get hiring the average employee. He's a billionaire seems like DEI is working for him pretty well.

@RJCE420

Ай бұрын

@@claywrangler1993 He sold his majority share of the Mavs last year, so he might be jumping a sinking ship.

@JamesStakerWin

Ай бұрын

The best baller ever was a White guy. Sports is the most DEI invested cesspool of any industry.

@claywrangler1993

Ай бұрын

Huh that had nothing to do with what I said.

What a great conversation with Mark Cuban! I love his optimism. He's a happy man who's rich inside out! And thank you Lex for this rich experience. Love it!❤

I don't know if you'll ever read this but Lex we love you. You are a fantastic human being. Thanks for existing!

@tagtv

26 күн бұрын

Agreed, what a great bloke he is.

It is so heartwarming to see how far you have come. You’re an amazing human.

Thank you for the cost plus drug program. The cost of so many other medical consumables is insane. So is the cost of health care in the US. Food for thought for areas to expand into.

1:06:46 well, when a vocal minority has the power to disrupt someone’s business for doing what the majority would like, then this is a problem, and they have to look out to not get in their crosshairs. So he cannot just state that this is their own decision. This is pure victim blaming, why do you give the robber your money you could make the decision to not give him your money 🙄

@teebagz1

Ай бұрын

no. corporations that make a point to operate outside of cultural norms are not victims of anything other than free market capitalism. Are Elan's companies woke? Does the government subsidize and/or grant Elan's companies billions of dollars regardless of how he implements DEI in his companies? Who has been victimized by the government imposing DEI?

@aliceglado

Ай бұрын

God you people are soft.

@TheREALTyreeSneed2

29 күн бұрын

​@@aliceglado isn't everyone these days 😂 if you're not soft you're considered a prick loll

Mark will turn himself into a pretzel to not be wrong. Entertaining when you don't care about the topic, depressing when you do. I feel like he thinks things cannot be emergent. People's behavior, company policy, etc -- they're all well thought out, rational actions. What's more compelling, IMO, is the idea that Lex is trying to put forward: company policy, people's behavior -- they're largely emergent. DEI emerged as a sort of secular religion during the pandemic. Companies added DEI arms bc it seemed in line with the cultural norm. It wasn't simply an effort to expand the applicant pool (which is not at all what those teams did); it was to comply with then-cultural norms. And bc they had no practical business purpose, DEI orgs were the first to go during the 2022 layoffs

Lex is great at being willing to abandon his world view to ask hard questions in order to intellectually explore a topic. I haven’t watched a single video of his that I didn’t enjoy. Keep up the great work, guy.

I met Cuban briefly about 16 years ago. In the last several years he's been wrong about almost everything. But the Mavs championship team was something.

@WaywardZombie

Ай бұрын

What's he been wrong about?

@bryan805

Ай бұрын

@@WaywardZombie here’s one: that men can be women

@liquidsnakex

Ай бұрын

@@bryan805 Good job scaring the coward off 🤣

I am 5’10 Asian dude who has no sporting ability but love basketball, in the spirit of DEI, Mr Cuban, please award me with a multimillion contract and play for the Mavs! You mean it right when you said DEI Mr Cuban. Or I do you better, give Jeremy Lin a 5 years contract instead

@foxshot97

Ай бұрын

you saying that means you have very little understanding of or contact with DEI related programs

@Regalman

Ай бұрын

asians are apart of DEI silly y'all been scamming getting fake SAT scores for years and jeremy lin sucked

@shellderp

Ай бұрын

@@foxshot97 nope

@huntybangz

Ай бұрын

@@shellderp”nope” stunning retort

@genkimachina

Ай бұрын

Sorry, Asians have been too successful, you are white now :) Welcome to the club!

Wow. The cost plus drugs thing. I am speechless. There actually is people with money and power who do good with it. ❤ Mark

That Cost Plus Drugs segment was fascinating

Illegal immigrants may not be able to vote (except in some municipal and local elections), but estimates of the area's population alters house of representatives seat appropriations. The effect is the same.

@patrickozga3486

Ай бұрын

So what you are saying is that they can vote. What exactly is barring them from voting in other election? When they go to their voting precinct will they have special ballots for them? What does local mean exactly? Some would argue that that your state is a locality. Gee I wonder, will they vote for DAs and Judges who are hard on immigration or those who ignore those laws? And whose party those ppl usually belong to

@WaywardZombie

Ай бұрын

This point was already debated on the elon and Don lemon interview

@WaywardZombie

Ай бұрын

It does not significantly change the seats. Elon is repeating fear mongering stuff from Fox

@beansdestroyer

Ай бұрын

If democrats have their way they will be able to vote too

@sammay9961

Ай бұрын

​@patrickozga3486 They can't vote bc they aren't citizens, but they are counted in the census. Bc of this the states they live in get more electoral college seats. This is true, but the vast majority live in California, New York, Texas, Florida, and Georgia, and account for about 1 seat each. Getting rid of them hurts Republicans just as much as democrats

Kudos to you Lex. This was a great interview. I appreciate that you are open to interviews with people having a variety of views-that is how we grow both as individually and as a society. In order to make informed decisions, one needs to gather all information available, look at both sides of the fence, and ultimately support which is best for society.

@erikERXON

Ай бұрын

...and that is how we fall. enjoy the poverty and disorder.

Great Episode and a great watch, Lex.

Hi Lex, love your videos, I'm a physics and math student (junior undergrad) and your values regarding love, curiosity, and progress are beautiful and I think in much the same way. Keep Doing what you are doing and Goodluck!

I bet Cuban doesn’t do DEI in the Mavericks, he wants the best person for the job. In addition, he’s missing the point of X -- he is able to share his point of view on DEI in X….. yet the previous Twitter didn’t allow free speech.

@shang0h

Ай бұрын

Sure twitter did allow free speech. People just hadn't evolved their new grifter definition of free speech that includes protected fraud, the right to get paid for speech, the right to not have people dislike what you say, etc. and come up with nonexistent rules like "putting their thumb on the scale" to twist their brains into believing it's illegal for anyone associated with the government to provide information. 5 years ago these people would have laughed at hearing the kind of things they tell each other now, but if you keep cracking them a little and shifting the mold, you can move people pretty far, so they don't ask themselves simple questions like "how come everybody all knows everything these allegedly censored people have said?" that will obliterate their new world view.

“Trump wants to ship all the immigrants out.” Cmon Mark, do better.

@ovs4744

Ай бұрын

Dude is so desperate lol. Trump bad now please buy my tequila.

@charleshighland5482

Ай бұрын

Go watch CPAC. I don't know what you think he wants to do.

@ovs4744

Ай бұрын

@@charleshighland5482 he wants to P A N D E R

@barnsnoble3105

Ай бұрын

@@charleshighland5482 ILLEGAL ILLEGAL

@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384

Ай бұрын

he literally said its "hyperbole". lmao... who come every single one of you have shit for brains?

Mark is great. Love his passion for business. I don't agree with him on DEI, but what a straightforward thinker. 100% great episode.

Lex, the quote you gave at the end that you attributed to Oscar Wilde is actually from Francis Bacon.

@alexanderprivate7233

Күн бұрын

As in "bake-on" these nuts?

Wish you would have asked him how he feels about promoting the voyager crypto exchange

Mark is spot-on about AI models. I'm a cybersecurity architect and corporations securing their IP in the AI models they use internally is huge right now. Nobody wants someone else's prompt to have learned from their IP.

Boy, that Oscar Wilde quote at the end… I actually guffawed… 😂

Thank you for your time and this great conversation. This is the sort of debate needed in politics and leadership in general. : - )

He doesn’t get the impact of DEI on middle class men, young and old. He’s protected from it.

@beansdestroyer

Ай бұрын

((()))

@silverbullitt88

29 күн бұрын

I'm a middle class white guy and I don't feel a single ill effect. I'm just good at what I do. If you're affected, it's probably a skill issue

@beansdestroyer

29 күн бұрын

@@silverbullitt88 why do i feel you give off the impression of being a flamboyant homosexual on your first impressions?

@silverbullitt88

25 күн бұрын

@@beansdestroyer why do I get the impression (based on your homophobia) that you drive a 20yo clapped out diesel truck and call it "success" or bought a few acres for $50k and think you made it? Also, your sister & wife are prob the same person

Mark, the biggest selling drug you were speaking about is Abbvie's Humira, Pronounced hu-MARE-ah and not hu-MY-rah as you have been saying. btw, love the whole transparency concept of Cost Plus Drugs. What would be killer is employing a COST team of some Pharma chemists and finance folks to work up the estimated manufacturing cost to manufacture (API, formulation, distribution) the drugs based on market size. See how that could add a deeper layer to the transparancy? And who the hell is "Dillan McDermont"?

@brockgan8941

14 күн бұрын

You actually have a fantastic idea. Get a team of synthetic chemists and chemical engineers together and find out what the true cost of the cost is so to speak.

Imagine trying to argue that "the free market will course correct" while simultaneously shitting on any efforts by the markets to course correct

Putting out some bangers lex keep it up!

Yet his Mavs were the least DEI team in the NBA…

@joshuakelly9743

Ай бұрын

What do you mean? One white guy, so 80% diverse

@taylorc2542

Ай бұрын

Nearly 45% of team owners come from a very small 2%...let's see if he still believes in DEI when it hits his group.

@chazly30

Ай бұрын

A NBA team owner that actually invest in white talent. Yeah, I'm ok with that. Regardless of the BS that comes out of his mouth. Actually, maybe that's why he's fronting so hard, so he don't get called out.

@joelee4495

29 күн бұрын

Where are the Asian midgets on his team?

Quite disingenuous about DEI. There’s plenty of business leaders that get bullied by investors and other stakeholders to hire specific demographics “or else”.. Our head of HR said in clear terms that every female candidate gets an interview, which is straight up sexism

IMO, Mark Cuban isn't nearly as fascinating or talented as publicly submitted. I mean, he was a geek who scored perfectly back in the halcyon days of the early tech 2000's. He should simply consider himself as such, but in the lonely confines of wealth, one becomes somewhat compensatory, attempting to make up for all that luck.

@sweeepzone5155

29 күн бұрын

When he said if he was starting right now from nothing, he could build a million dollar company because he's a good salesman, etc. I thought that's fair enough that he probably could. But then he goes further and says he could most likely build a $100m+ company as if it was just easy. And that's when you know he's a bit out of touch. If you work hard, are charismatic, and get some lucky breaks, you can be quite wealthy. But $100ms takes all that and big opportunities that HAVE to come your way

@justincalhoun7062

29 күн бұрын

It’s a shame your opinion isn’t worth anything 🙁

@jnc07res

29 күн бұрын

@@justincalhoun7062 I hear your mom calling... something about your dinner being ready.

@justincalhoun7062

28 күн бұрын

@@jnc07res durrrrr good one

@brockgan8941

14 күн бұрын

He does consider himself as such. He says like 15 times how much of his success was due to that luck.

So funny how Cuban's confidence level changes so drastically and how his voice gets more shaky when he starts talking about woke shit. It's almost as if he's putting on a performance...would LOVE to hear how he talks to his close friends in private about this stuff.

@petestrouse7411

Ай бұрын

Also, Dylan McDermott? LMAO. Lex says Dylan's full name like 15 times (and doesn't call Cuban on it - classy, Lex).

@billj4525

Ай бұрын

You're almost definitely projecting what you believe about Mark and his reaction. If you have seen him talk enough you would know that you're inaccurate at least about his reaction to woke talk. His voice get shaky and changes whenever he's debating anything pretty much is what i'm saying. This woke talk that all you people argue about is awfully awkward though from both sides of the argument. People are definitely weird these days, and I think we can thank social media for that, the stupidity and extreme bias as well. Young people specifically I think are more far gone than any young generation in a long time.

@bumperxx1

Ай бұрын

He doesn't fully believe in it because if he did his basketball team would have to hire about 25% more white people

@WaywardZombie

Ай бұрын

Hey everybody we've got a Fox news watcher over here!

@petestrouse7411

Ай бұрын

@WaywardZombie I am a centrist libertarian. Lol. Nice strawman though.

Still in the middle of the interview but did anyone catch "Dylan McDermott" lol

@southernappalachianrecon

Ай бұрын

Yeah like 3 times. Mark Cuban doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

I have got to give Mark Cuban credit. Because he gave an answer about DEI's that truly stumped Lex's pseudointellectualism and revealed it for what it actually is. I have to admit there is some window dressing to his answer but still, its pretty good logic. You can rail against and argue about diversity programs all you want. No one can force people or companies to be more diverse. Even if you found some way to implement some sort of affirmative action, these people will find some way to sabotage the program by simply not choosing the best inclusive (minority) candidates. Essentially just picking the first "minority" candidate they see without doing their due diligence. Guys like Lex see the obvious flaw, and hit upon a way to get rid of programs they didnt like from the start anyway. But Mark Cuban hit back with a great response. Ok, if you dont want to have DEI programs, and if you dont want to implement them properly....fine. You will just fall behind companies who actually do PROPERLY implement DEI programs. Great answer

Lex, I live in Boston and work at MIT too. If you have only been to a Miami Heat game and not a Celtics game this must change. The environment at TD Garden is unreal. I will gladly take you to your first Celtics game, especially with playoffs coming around. Let me know and I will reach out!

Great catch! Can't wait to hear this!

I can't waste two hours of my life for a guy that says he believes in DEI, but hires players for his basketball team based on merit!

@cecilcharlesofficial

Ай бұрын

correct

@Heeroyui752

Ай бұрын

That means you don't understand what DEI is, only what some right winger told you.

@ANONYMOUS-pr1zj

Ай бұрын

yeah dei is based on merit and diversity. when you have two equal applicants in all possible respects, diversity is the only other characteristic to look for and it trumps the other candidate. its not a hard concept to understand

@ANONYMOUS-pr1zj

Ай бұрын

why would you want to hire a boring man who's never set foot out of his home state with a 4.0 from college when you could hire a well-travelled trilingual woman with a 4.0 from the same school.

@ddawg3974

Ай бұрын

​@@ANONYMOUS-pr1zju dumb

I would really love to see more social science on this podcast - sociologists, psychologists, philosophers, economists. And maybe just a little less focus on politics.

What I found most impressive about this interview is the seeming breadth that Mark Cuban has over many topics.

i watched 5 min of his DEI answer and already know he is full of bullshit. He doesn't understand shit of what he is talking about. Probably only learned about this initiative last month. Sorry Lex but i am not giving this any more watch time. You should have pushed him more, you let him slip on 3 topics on first 5 minutes. 1. The owner of the platform statement in regards to Elon has no value or underlying logic 2. Of course there are quotas. Many countries in EU have women quotes and ESG and DEI promotes quotas in order for hedge funds to make investments 3. There is no "reverse racism". Only racism, it is the same racism that always existed.

@gyros69420

Ай бұрын

The term reverse racism disappoints me. I think it's a very American thing, I've never heard anyone use it in the UK

@CaptainMyron

Ай бұрын

@@gyros69420 The term reverse racism is the reddest of flags for me. Because those that use it imply that racism is about prejudice and power, not the classical definition. So there needs to be an other form of racism towards europeans, asians and jews. This is reverse racism, who although they have more power in their oppression Olympics they still face discrimination through color. It is absurd.

@g0lbezgames585

Ай бұрын

​@@gyros69420The term makes no sense at all. Anyone who uses that term has no understanding of how the English language works.

@g0lbezgames585

Ай бұрын

Think of the term "reverse engineering." That's a proper use of the word "reverse". In fact, using fake propaganda terminology is reverse engineering the English language and repurposing it.

@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384

Ай бұрын

the russian bots are a real problem..

Lex once again delivers an incredible conversation with an influential individual, providing a much deeper insight into them compared to reels or tweets.

I agree with Marc Cuban. Jim Rohn said that sales is all about bringing value. Absolutely true. Value is everything. That’s what real business development and sales actually is. It’s a value proposition to bring value to clients.

Dude is a bad a** interviewer. Cuban normally annoys me but, Lex asked the right questions and made the vibe real... Just guys hanging out (should have had a few beers, brotha!)

I don't like it that Mark described DEI without mentioning race.

@byronwilliams7977

Ай бұрын

He did, several times, and explicitly.

@a.s.2426

Ай бұрын

You mean “defined” not “described”. Indeed it was an inaccurate definition, I think.

Cuban comes through naive and simple.

@beezelbuzzel

Ай бұрын

Welp. He's doing better than you or me X 1000. He's doing something right.

@scottcantdance804

Ай бұрын

Chabinesky is his real name.

@Doomlaser

Ай бұрын

@@beezelbuzzel He got fucking lucky in the 90s tech froth. I don't understand why we have to listen to him now.

@MarkMichon7

Ай бұрын

@@beezelbuzzelBetter financially sure, but that doesn't make him right about everything.

@beezelbuzzel

Ай бұрын

@@MarkMichon7 never said he was.

Great interview. Loved the entrepreneurship section

Why does DEI exist? Its purpose should be to disregarding mentioning any gender or ethnicity. Not promoting engagement of minorities when there is lack of them -> which is what DEI really is in practice. Big tech companies are doing their best to keep up which leads to having very disproportionate pool of experts in field vs actually hired individuals, leading to discrimination against people with non-minority characteristics. Why do you get up to 10x signing bonus as a black woman vs white man in big tech? This is clearly one of the discriminating policies, yet it was made to prevent discrimination by DEI. And its very common (I would even say most companies have this in practice). Ignoring these very apparent issues is damaging goals of this whole ideology and you're helping that, mr. Cuban.

It's crazy how stupid a smart person can be once compromised

@aliceglado

Ай бұрын

God you soft little incels.

@buckchile614

Ай бұрын

Unprecedented!

Lex you have now surpassed Charlie Rose and Company, as a serious interviewer. Up there with the best of their time.

@netizencapet

Ай бұрын

The problem is that Lex's purely collaborative model is useful only for letting the public know the larger context of a given figure's thoughts in casual format. We don't get the needed exposition of these characters through their response to better researched, harder questions. I don't mean the rude, interrupting shut-downs of MSM abusive interviewers but questions legitimately in the public interest. The interview with Besoz was a particular and pointed failure in that regard.

I've said the intro to this video for years and all ive been is called crazy lol

WhaT a great conversation, love Mark Cuban

Please interview Andrew Gentile from "The Why Files" sometime! Love your podcasts, Lex.

@guillaumebarrette9040

Ай бұрын

All hail Hecklefish

@travisvadnais1853

Ай бұрын

Yeah you should love the why files

@debrabunger9302

Ай бұрын

Wearing a Hecklefish t-shirt right now!

@drtydsh

Ай бұрын

Is this a fucking joke? This is just not the platform for that

@TheJoshestWhite

Ай бұрын

Shoot....is THAT his name? Lol

Have been watching lots of Shark Tank lately. Will definitely have to watch this

I have a long time friend that transitioned. I asked her, if she always felt this way... And she responded yes but she just doesn't care what anyone thinks anymore. As a straight, man , I can tell you I never felt you could convince me I was anything else. So let's stop that noise 😂 if you can be convinced, there's other psychological issues at play.

On the topic of DEI the 2 points that often cause controversy were put by the host: - That some people argue that there is an "overcorrection" in terms of how DEI is implemented. The simple answer there is that it can't be called an "overcorrection" because the issue that it's trying to correct has not been fully corrected. What can be argued is that certain implementations have failed, or were poorly designed, because it did not fully correct the issue, and may have caused other issues. It may seem like a pedantic distinction, but it's not, calling it an overcorrection might lead to the assumption that it should be "tuned down" when it reality it needs to be "tuned", generally. Overcorrection might also imply that the issue was already corrected, and we have countless pieces of evidence that make it clear it was not, so it's an important distinction. - That when criticizing DEI, people are labelled racist and sexist and that label sticks and creates a situation where they are silenced. Like Cuban said, people are people, so that might definitely happen in some discussions, but that is not the full story. Providing criticism means you must also be open to criticism of your arguments, so rather than "silenced", what is happening is simply the continuation of the discourse. If you want to disagree with something, by all means do so, but you can't expect the discussion to end there. If they feel silenced, let's talk about it, but the reality is that they are not, if they were, this topic wouldn't be coming up so much, would it?

As a dev hearing Cuban talk about implementing a multicast network (especially back then) at first seemed wild to me. Then I'm like, oh yeah, explains the success. Smart guy makes sense.

@IPHONEGAMINGHUB

Ай бұрын

Hehehe