Have you played your beloved depths list with that 8/8 troll from Fallout? Maybe i missed it

@vladimirdolezal7166

14 күн бұрын

Do you mean Lumbering Megasloth? That is not on MTGO yet.

@Andre-fm1zy

14 күн бұрын

​@@vladimirdolezal7166as far as i know fallout wont be on mtgo for a long time for legal reasons 😢

@crucible_of_words

13 күн бұрын

If WotC can put Fallout on MTGO, then I'll play it. I own them in paper but haven't gotten to play very much with it

Do you think mutated cultist could see play in turbo depths?

@crucible_of_words

13 күн бұрын

Here's my comments about Mutated Cultist from my guide on Patreon: "The other card people have their eye on is Mutated Cultist, which hasn’t been good in my testing. The fact it makes Marit Lage at sorcery speed is a big drawback. The trade off of being a three mana spell is also pretty huge, and even though it doesn’t require an Urborg like Hexmage often does, it still often wants one as the Dark Depths isn’t tapping for mana without it, so it makes it take an additional turn which is just no good really. The other thing is that it removes counters via a cast trigger, but that’s far less of an issue if we have a Vexing Bauble. I will test it more before adding it to the guide below in earnest."

Surgical Extraction, when paying two life, still gets through Vexing Bauble, I believe. Phyrexian mana still counts as mana. So, Surgical Extraction is an option for your sideboard; it pairs well with your discard.

@toast_recon

14 күн бұрын

Not true, I'm afraid. Phyrexian mana counts in the mana cost, but when the game checks what mana you paid, it finds you paid none

@Pun116

13 күн бұрын

@@toast_recon Then how come a Dismember can bypass a Chalice on 1, when 4 life has been paid?

@studentanselmus9461

13 күн бұрын

​​​​​​​@@Pun116Because Dismembers Mana cost alsways stays 3 and Surgical Extractions always stays 1 regardless of how you pay for the Phyrexian Mana cost. Bauble doesn't care about costs, it cares about actual mana being spent. If you pay with life, you didn't pay mana to cast the spell, same as with FoW or Daze. That's why Bauble counters it. If your instead pay B for your Extraction, you spent mana on it and Bauble doesn't care. If your Lotus Petal or Force get's taxed by Thalia and you pay the 1, Bauble also sees that you spent mana and lets your spell through, even though it's technically a free spell. A Chalice on 0, however, will still counter your Petal.

@crucible_of_words

13 күн бұрын

Vexing Bauble does stop it, because Phyrexian mana counts as paying life instead of mana, which is a weird rules interaction for sure.