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@pyeitme508

11 ай бұрын

Wow

@neves5083

11 ай бұрын

How about the man in the high castle now? :D

@EckhartsLadder

11 ай бұрын

​@@neves5083that's a great option

@jonatand2045

11 ай бұрын

​@@EckhartsLadder I recommend blindsight if you want some dark but hard science fiction.

@TheRezro

11 ай бұрын

And so he become Q

"And because in all the galaxy, they had found nothing more precious than mind, they encouraged its dawning everywhere. They became farmers in the fields of stars. They sowed, and sometimes they reaped. And sometimes, dispassionately, they had to weed." This is my favorite quote from the novel.

The book is great and the movie is still great to watch. I was born less than 2 weeks before man first stepped on the moon and in some ways it's amazing how far man has progressed but also disappointing how little we have progressed.

@csainson

11 ай бұрын

We sent our progress money to africa

@finglipa2001

11 ай бұрын

Our politicians lack ambition and are too content with keeping their greed bound to earth. What a shame we are controlled by such a stubborn, fat, and unambitious class. this is why subjects like the cold war are so amazing to me, because it breeds this competitive mindset. "I need to beat the other guy, I'm going to do anything I have to do to succeed, and so I'm going to go above and beyond to help my people explode with creativity, invention, and innovation". War and more specifically the competition involved creates such explosive advancement, but we cant have anymore wars, because if and when a bad powerful man throws a fit, he can end the word with a few words and the turn of a key, and we don't want to risk that. I hope ill get to go to space one day, I hope we finally create a sustainable presence off our home world. I know its kind of a rant but its a subject I really just have to get out of my system

@Sephiroth144

11 ай бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359 I mean, I'd be happy with a reasonably sustainable colony on Luna or Mars- Pluto? That's a bit too long for our lifetimes, even if the entire planet put a Plutonian Colony as priority one...

@Sephiroth144

11 ай бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359 No, it has the minimal potential and practicality. Let's play this out- it took the Voyager probes 30-odd years to reach the orbit of Pluto- and they could travel with far less mass and greater acceleration than a manned vessel. To establish a colony would require far more material than a simple manned mission, (which we haven't even gotten beyond the TerraLuna Zone). Not only that, it would have to be self-sufficient- because, again, its a multi-decade trip- Amazon Prime isn't getting fresh water or medical supplies 3.14 billion miles (about 5 billion kilometers) in two days. Luna makes much more sense from a logistical sense- its far closer, meaning resupply is feasible. Likewise, communication is far more viable. The lunar surface is chock full of Oxygen and Iron, both of which are very useful and could be used for sustaining a colony and further construction, (perhaps with other ores being shipped from Earth or meteor impact locations on the Moon) And let's circle back to this part: " I hope to live through the very moment we finally reach and make a full fledged colony to Pluto"; how many decades do you think you have left to live- ten's a good run, and chances are you burned thru a few already.

@djquinn11

10 ай бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359: I hope you’re being facetious. Colony on Pluto???

The thing that always struck me in 2001 was that we basically see the same story twice - once with the ape-men, and then with the humans. The implication that we, with all our amazing technology, are still just apes with pointy sticks. That we have as far still to go as we have already come. That to the builders of the monoliths, our most powerful weapons are little more than bone clubs.

@rogerdenningprice

11 ай бұрын

The jump shot from the bone thrown in the air to view of the satellite orbiting the Earth both examples of tool use. Tool use only differentiated by degree of technique not of kind. Like Prometheus’ and his gift of fire the Monolith gives humanity the mind of a tool maker.

@michaelking9818

10 ай бұрын

Your thinking that time linear.

@markbarrett4440

8 ай бұрын

@@rogerdenningprice They aren't just satellites, they're orbiting nuclear weapons platforms.

The novel series for Space Odyssey is fantastic. A must read for any sci-fi fan.

@OverlordZephyros

11 ай бұрын

​@@michaelandreipalon359care to explain honestly

@JaxonHaxon

11 ай бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359 So its easier to believe that Arthur C Clarke one of the greatest sci-fi authors of all time was ghostwritten rather than so much of sci-fi has piggybacked off of his inspiration so much that it seems a little too familiar? Riiiiighttttt 2061 and 3001 are actually some of my favourite sci-fi books of all-time, just admit you don't like hard sci-fi 😂😂😂 Nah you'd rather try to trash something so out of your league The evolution on Europa and the future Earth of 3001 where man and machine have become inseparable are iconic

@flaccus123

11 ай бұрын

The Time Oddysey series he wrote with Stephen Baxter is worth a read. Neither a sequel or prequel. The aliens from 2001 become the antagonists

Between 2001, 2010, and the old Star Trek movies, I really miss when Scifi movies used physical models. I do really appreciate the craftsmanship that goes into a very well realized CG model, but there is a certain physicality to ships like in this movie, or the ILM Enterprise model, that CG hasn't quite managed to capture for me yet.

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

Ай бұрын

the final evolution did not happen like it did in the movie we are still going to war and all that fun shit why did you not find us the monoliths?

Love the broadening content. Your Star Wars stuff is the best of its kind on KZread but seeing Sci-fi novels get the attention they deserve is always great. If this continues to take off maybe consider reaching out to some primarily book oriented creators for collaboration.

@nikolaseibich6297

11 ай бұрын

Since this has apparently been noticed I would suggest Quinn's Ideas as a potential collaborator. Given the format of these Sci-Fi videos and his are relatively close I think it could be a good pairing.

@furiouskaiser9914

11 ай бұрын

Quinn's Ideas is a great channel to dive into for Sci fi topics, books, and shows. I discovered the Three Body Problem series through his channel and have since had a blast listening to them via audiobook.

I don't wanna join a book club, but I love these types of videos! Do more!

@calenegg787

11 ай бұрын

Nobody asked if you wanted to

The ending confused me so much in middle school 😅

@ARandomSpecOp

11 ай бұрын

It’s okay the ending first confused me in college too😂

@jtjames79

11 ай бұрын

Stanley Kubrick had a much more difficult job than Arthur C. Clark.

@deusvult6900

11 ай бұрын

No way you watched this existential dread-filled movie in middle school💀

@skyblu81

11 ай бұрын

Made me run to the books

@Mustachioed_Mollusk

11 ай бұрын

Most people seemingly didn’t even think about the end enough to be confused. Be proud of middle school you lol

What a strange coincidence! I just finished watching the movie for the first time yesterday! Thanks Eckharts!

We need more content like this. Prometheus, dune, raised by wolves, etc.

@DeathBYDesign666

11 ай бұрын

All of which have their own channels, likely several for each actually.

@ultra1000

11 ай бұрын

@@DeathBYDesign666 yeah but is it Eckhart talking about it? I come here to hear him talk, idk about you though

@DeathBYDesign666

11 ай бұрын

@@ultra1000 Certain relatable subjects perhaps, but it's always going to be just skimming the surface of the lore. You go here for his take of course but the others for more in depth analysis because this is a star wars channel mainly. I'm not expecting any deep dives is what I'm saying.

@ultra1000

11 ай бұрын

@@DeathBYDesign666 okay, i understand your point. Maybe I should have rephrased my original comment. What I meant to say is that we need more content like this specifically from Eckhart. I have seen many videos on all of those subjects from many other channels, i would just like to see more content like that on this channel.

Fun fact, Iapetus is bright on one side and dark on the other, because one side catches a lot more dust from another of Saturn's moons, Phoebe, and that dust makes the surface slightly darker. When sunlight hits it, the ice on that side boils off, leaving a thick layer of dark material - whatever was mixed in with the ice. On the other side, the surface is still fresh ice, and so it's much paler.

I have watched a million videos on this film and watched the film (never read the book), but no-one has ever broken it down like that and I finally get it. I watched the film and didn’t understand what the hype was about. My question is, how did the writer see so far into the future, absolutely brilliant. What a breakdown. Thank you.

@cowboyschad5x778

8 ай бұрын

The future is planned, if you think that’s trippy Arthur C Clarke wrote a book in the 1980s called Life in The 21st century and the way he describes people’s behavior and western society is exactly like 2023, filled with vaccines and polyamorous people and all the gender stuff that’s so prevalent now. In the 1980s it would of sounded crazy, he knew the future would unfold that way because the future is planned. HG Wells also wrote a book called The New World Order and one called The Open Conspiracy where he talks about the planning of the future.

As a fan of the book myself, this is a very accurate synopsis of the book! There are a lot of things I enjoyed about the book: Arthur C. Clarke did his homework and researched what he could about realistic space travel, including talking to NASA scientists. The way it gives that mystery feel, there's a certain level of suspense throughout as the ship takes the long journey to Iapetus and curiosity/dread about what Bowman will eventually find there. HAL's history and the very human conflict of wanting to discuss an important revelation but not being able to, and how it's resolved. Although, I do realize now that I had misinterpreted the ending as Earth being on the cusp of nuclear Armageddon and the Starchild putting a stop to it. Chapter 47 is just slightly vague enough that I interpreted it that way. And I agree, anyone who's interested in 2001: A Space Odyssey should absolutely read the book first. The book goes into detail about a few things that the movie doesn't focus on or slightly changes, so it's helpful to understand. As for other novels that might be worth covering, I would suggest Neuromancer by William Gibson, if you'd be willing to delve into cyberpunk literature. It's a bit of a complex read, but it's really influential to the whole genre and has really interesting themes and descriptions. Oh, and if you plan to get a physical version, I highly recommend the Penguin Galaxy hardcover edition, it's got a great cover and some words from Neil Gaiman (it's part of a series of hardcovers, so Gaiman was asked to share what he thought of Neuromancer and other books in that series). I just finished Neuromancer a couple of days ago, and it's a great read.

@MonkeyJedi99

11 ай бұрын

Arthur C Clarke was a very smart man with a hunger for knowledge and an ability to share it with others.

@dweller132

11 ай бұрын

@@MonkeyJedi99 Agreed. Not to mention he came up with the initial idea for geostationary satellites, which is common technology these days.

@EckhartsLadder

11 ай бұрын

I read Neuromancer for the first time last summer and really enjoyed it

I like the cool parallel between the end of the book and the monkey part. The proto-human holds the bone and feels all-powerful(ironically) and at the end of the book, the star child feels all-powerful. The implication is that the end feeling of the star child is also ironic.

It's remarkable how well the science holds up. Even after all this time, it is still extremely plausible.

I LOVE how you're expanding your content!!!

Excellent explanation video. One of my favourite films, but I didn’t know most of what is in this video. Well done 👍🏻

These are are my favorite videos of yours! I can’t find them anywhere else. I read some of these books when I was in middle school and I never quite understood them. So I really appreciate your well researched explanations.

I watched it in 1968 on it's first release, at 10 years old, and formed a love for Sci-Fi from there. 2001 was very influential, and very predictive. AC Clarke was a genius, who is little remembered these days, yet his and Heinleins Sci Fi stories were some of the best writing, ever. The movie when released was a "WTF?" head scratcher for probably 90% of the people who watched it, as it had several secrets behind the motivations. After reading the book and seeing the other movie, as well as the third book, (2030) you could see Clarkes effort to explain God and Man...

When you also take the novel into consideration there's plenty more that is explained and shown to us through there. But that being said it's also worth thinking through what the movie itself shows us: Humanity's distant forefathers come across a black monolith. This experience is shown to change them in some way, providing the band that finds it an advantage over another band by allowing them to utilize tools (and it implies that the first genuine tool is a weapon, which is a terrible line of thinking). Humanity has advanced thanks to the black monolith. Humans once again come across a black monolith once more thousands of years later, this time on the moon. They are sent on a mission for this one far into the solar system, where they come across another monolith. Presumably, this is some kind of test. After getting there, the black monolith pushes the human who comes into contact with it once more, changing him from what he was before. Of course, it is left unsaid what exactly these implications are. However, the newly transformed "Star Child" Bowman appears to be on a distinct plane of existence from the rest of humanity. We can only observe him in this altered state, much as the opposing group of protohumans must have observed the tool-users. This second evolutionary nudge will lead to locations we can not yet envisage, just as using a bone as a weapon led to space stations, but there will be repercussions.

Earliest I’ve ever been for an Eckharts Ladder video! Nice work as always man!

Nice video, Eck! I'm really enjoying this series

My take on the stargate sequence (at least in the movie), was always that Bowman was learning EVERYTHING. The "hotel" was a stopover for him to absorb it before "ascending".

Love that you're exploring these new topics Eck

Love to see you back on other sci-fi eck!

I just rewatched this movie 2 nights ago. There are so many deep layers it will keep anyone thinking about it long after they've watched it (and coming back to it again and again). Even the most superficial layers, such as mankind's evolution through technology, be it a bone or a space ship, is profoundly interesting and portrayed with utter genius by Kubrick.

I've been really enjoying these videos. Can't wait for the next one.

🖤 Eck covers my favorite film. A good end to an otherwise terrible day.

Thank you for making this video in wide shot. Hardly anyone ever does that, so thank you.

I’ve loved your channel for a while now, i really think you’d love diving into the dune books and it would be a great time to make some content about it with the second movie coming out, there’s so much to dive into I think you’d love it

The beginning Narrative is from Arthur C Clarks 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY the book. Its a short story within its volume called, "The Expirament ".😊

The company I work for bought a traffic control vehicle with a truck mounted attenuator (basically, designed to absorb impact and protect road crews in front of it). It was our first, so it gave me a chuckle when I named it and ordered decals saying TMA-1.

For the record, in case you're concerned your audience will leave because you're branching out more, I subscribe to your channel and watch all your content because of how you go about creating content. I like how you interpret and approach talking about the various sci-fi franchises we all love, I don't care that you're not going to solely focus on Star Wars and will continue to watch any of the videos you put out that interest me. Keep up the good work and thanks for all the great, free content over the years!

I would love to see a deep dive into “War of the Worlds.” It’s one of my favorite books.

My god... it's full of Massaman Curry noodles.

Excellent overview and descriptions of the work. Looking forward to your video on '2010' ; and your thoughts on the book vs. the 1984 film. ✨

@pippy6677

11 ай бұрын

.....and a potential video on the less well known book '2061: Odyssey Three', published in 1987.

Great to see eck expanding more upon his "& more" part of his intro graphic

So good to see you upload again eck!

Great work. Amazing video.

Watched it last night fell asleep and woke up for the last 40 minutes, tripped me out! Loved it

easily my fav video you’re ever posted

Can’t wait for 2010. It doesn’t get nearly enough coverage. And I’d love to see you cover Rendezvous with Rama

Thanks for this video! I'd like to add the enormous impact of this story in other sci fi films, books, videogames etc. I see 2001 in Alien, Expanse, System Shock, Star Trek (the stories that came later, of course, mostly, the first ST movie), Halo. Even Star Wars was somewhat inspired by 2001 visually.

Very happy to see more sci-fi content.

Love the new content, did the intro music change? If so, is it related to the copyright fiasco?

@EckhartsLadder

11 ай бұрын

No it was simply an editing choic

Truly an amazing book. I need to read the rest of the series!

I hear Kubrick filmed the Lunar scenes at the same time he was filming the Apollo 11 landing.

I'm really loving these videos on different stuff, don't get me wrong I love star wars but stuff like this isn't covered that much and it's really cool

My God. It's Full of Stars.

The jump shot from the bone thrown in the air to view of the satellite orbiting the Earth both examples of tool use. Tool use only differentiated by degree of technique not of kind. Like Prometheus’ and his gift of fire the Monolith gives humanity the mind of a tool maker.

Wow. I know you from the hockey side and I thought this was just a Star Wars channel. I LOVE Hockey and I LOVE sci fi so I am absolutely ecstatic to watch this video.

Awesome video! I’ve watched the movie multiple times and read the book and I still didn’t understand the ending

@the_unrepentant_anarchist.

11 ай бұрын

The sequel, 2010, explains it well enough- and is a *much* more coherent movie than the first one. 🍄

Love these videos

Well done. I lose interest in Star Wars each passing year that it remains in Disney's grasp. I've never cared about Halo. But these videos -- these are good.

awesome! have you read dan simmons hyperion?

Please talk about Phil Tippett's Mad God, I think you'll like it and it deserves to be talked about way more for the amount of effort that went into it!

Wow, ive only seen the movie and wasnt aware there was a book. Youve opened a whole new appreciation for the ip to me

Excellent analysis

Great vid

Well you've made a movie I thought was unfulfilling and dull into an amazing journey! I wish the movie had this same context it would've made much more sense watching it

I just finished watching the film for the first time all the way through...but on my phone, probably not the best choice, so thank you for helping me to understand it, especially the ending. 😊👏👏👏

Hey Eck, good vid

Do it! Love your different content!!

YEEEEEEEEEEES more content outside star wars i knew good things where coming when you released the 1984 video

I read all the books back in highschool and found them to be fascinating and very fun stories. I love Haal

I’ve watched the movie several times, but never read the book. Thus I missed a lot of the nuance of the book. I even read 2061 and 3001 and as a teenager, but need to revisit the books. Thanks for making this, I’ll be checking out other videos!

I as well first saw the movie as a pre-teen, in 1968. I have not read the book (which can only be explained by human error - mine). I am inspired by this video to give the book a read. Thank you.

Good video, and I agree with your observations. The teleology is the fascination for me. Please say more on the recapitulation? It seems *nothing* heads this Star Child, but rather, that he recapitulates the ancient entities, by possessing all of the accumulated knowledge. Also, is he not corporal?

hey Eck, you should do a video about All Tomorrows by C.M. Koseman!

Only kubrick could bring this movie to life.

@axhen

4 ай бұрын

Tbf they wrote it together

Man-ape has his synapses tested, his synapses burned. Then, he said , "A bong I heard my landlord fling" was the reason they almost got struck by lightening and were soaked through solid. But they all blazed on, with their one life and shade from the sun (they all had fun). Btw, love your channel, and your bumper music tends to put me in a great place when im trying to sleep at night. Thanks!

@anthonydoyle7370

10 ай бұрын

Don't Bogart that joint, my friend

It’s crazy I know this guy as my favorite hockey channel. Didn’t know he did content like this too. 😂

I watched the Films first before reading the first 3 books, I have not read 3001 yet. I never understood the first film at all but after reading the first 2 books, i got a better idea then i read 2061 and then i really did understand what was going on. Brilliant series of books and films and i would watch and read them over and over again.

It is a true, classic, beautifully portrayed, and it perfect in synch with real time.

Best episode yet.

good stuff

I enjoy you talking about other movies it helps me discover more things out there

In Psalm 139:13, the verse "For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb." is written. In my personal interpretation, the scene at the end of this movie where a fetus is prominently depicted signifies the notion that all occurrences in this world are being observed by the divine.

I was tempted to read the book a long time ago and now see I probably should have.

The whole movie perplexed me, as a senior in highschool.

As long as we still get some Star Wars I'm fine with other stories too. You should do Interstellar next. That was a really good movie that seemed to be a lot like 2001.

seriously one of the best films I have ever seen.

I don't know if you're into it but you should cover some Warhammer 40k stuff

I would love to hear your thoughts on how first contact is portrayed in different media, like in ME with the First Contact War. That sort of stuff

I'd love to see you cover 2010.

so evolution goes on and man becomes the Übermensch like in Nietzsche's "Thus Spoke Zarathustra". That's why the soundtrack is "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" by Richard Strauss. Thats's amazing!

Hard scifi is wonderful But I hope you keep up with the space wizard fun

I got this on 4K Blu-Ray as soon as I got a Series X. Forgot that when the film is shown on TV they cut out the loooong musical bit at the start. I'm going to read the Space Odyssey books (including The Lost Worlds of) after I've read the LOTR books.

I'd be up for a review on the sequels

I read the book first too before seeing the movie in about 1975 when it was re-released here - I enjoyed being one of the few people who wasn't utterly confused on leaving the theatre.

I highly recommend The Lost Worlds of 2001 by Arthur C. Clarke. He even describes what the aliens looked like!

This is one of my favorite book series! I do hope you cover the rest. 3001 in particular is so great in showing humans getting to a peaceful progressive place and then having humans judged based on our most destructive period of time.

I understood absolutely nothing watching this movie as a kid & hated it, but now I'm just wowed🤯😲

Fall back into place.

Keep going with these types of videos homie

loved the video but i have to say that the music was kinda loud this time, it would be nice if you turned it down a bit for the next one

Kubrick is a great director thats for sure. First 2001 then the moon landing, great films.

If you could do a vid on Atlas Shrugged that would be SO AWESOME!!

@EckhartsLadder

11 ай бұрын

bro how much time do you think I have that shit's a million pages long

@grumpycentaur6799

11 ай бұрын

@@EckhartsLadder I know I was really reaching. My bad Eck 😅

@grumpycentaur6799

11 ай бұрын

​@@EckhartsLadderThanks for responding!!

@enisra_bowman

11 ай бұрын

@@michaelandreipalon359 it's only usefull in context of Bioshock as an easy example where the problems with that Book lies without going into detail

Ill be honest I love the book a lot more than the movie (which is a good movie dont get me wrong).