Haha 11:58 is so smart! Great video, will have to try some of these methods some day soon. :)

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Haha! Yeah! Like a foot powered lathe 😂

@willd2609

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah this is awesome

@versatileduplicity9313

4 жыл бұрын

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@MrSki-mv2kr

4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for her to stumble upon the wooden electric drill lathe.

@mikeguillory8996

4 жыл бұрын

@@3x3CustomTamar Great videos on your page. I wonder if this could be done using the drill press, depends on length of dowel compared to depth you can create with drill press table bottom, but you could attach bottom to a bearing for easy spinning.

The "rope through the doghole" foot-trigger is brilliant. Never saw that one before.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks! Me either. Thought of that one in the fly 😂

Um, that rope through the hole drill trick was damn smart. I mean, the whole vid was great, but that trick surprised me

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Haha! Glad you liked it

@harriramgosine8103

4 жыл бұрын

That rope trick was brilliant

@Baldavier

4 жыл бұрын

but how do you fix the drill to the dowel?

@billyboydiscgolf2341

4 жыл бұрын

Yeh this was a great trick. I’ve used a sewing machine peddle in the past, but this rope trick just works so much faster and easier.

@SnakePliskenDK

3 жыл бұрын

Same thing here 👍😃

I thought I knew a lot about woodworking, but the more I watch your videos, the more I realize I didn't know. Your tips and tricks are not only extremely clever, but also presented in a clear and straightforward way that I really appreciate, and many of them are already making life much easier in my shop. Thank you!

I have a lot of old carpenters in my family and I have seen them make a 6 inch or larger diameter column with a circular saw or table saw, a belt sander belt, cut to one very long piece, and a great deal of elbow grease. (Usually supplied by the younger generation who were learning.) They'd start by gluing up stock to make their rough square column. Then they'd cut the corners, turning the square column into an octagon. They'd cut the corners again leaving sixteen sides. Once more leaving 32 sides, then they would make d-handle clamp blocks to clamp onto the ends of the cut sanding belt, and sand it round. This method takes time, however it has no upper limit to the size of the dowel / column you can make.

@treefarm3288

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, I might try that. I have 2 X 3 m lengths of hardwood!

Hey 3x3 Custom - Tamar, thank you so much for taking the time and effort to demonstrate the different methods of making a dowel. Fortunately for me, the round over bit on the router table will work for my project. Really appreciate your instructions and demonstrations.

From the super-novice, thank you for this. I’ve never even heard of a dowel plate until 2-3 minutes ago, and that looks incredibly useful for all the larger of things I plan on making as first projects. Awesome video 👍🏼

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad it was helpful! Thanks!

Your content is insanely good. I learn so much, in so short a time, and I really appreciate the rigor that goes into your testing methods. Thanks for your effort!

Well done Tamar. Your spirit for wood is inspirational. Thank you.

Now I want to make a dowel this weekend. I don't need a dowel for anything. But I want to make one 😁

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Haha. I know how you feel

@SuperDataSafe

4 жыл бұрын

Done that, the chisel way, just because, so i haven't tried it since. :-D

@anonymousaccordionist3326

4 жыл бұрын

I used my hand planes to make two large dowels from off cuts of 2x2s for no particular reason. I have a reason to use them now, but I didn't the other day when I made them.

Using the round over bit made a really nice looking column

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

That was my favorite

I didn't know there was such a thing as a dowel plate. I've been making mine by what I now know as my homemade dowel plate. I found some angle iron & drilled holes into it of different sizes. It's easy to clamp to my workbench as well. Thanks for another awesome video

Thank you for all your videos! I am new to woodworking, and have looked at a lot of KZread channels, but yours are by far the most descriptive throughout. I love that you show your experiments to answer the ‘what if’ questions I have. You are certainly my first go-to channel whenever I need to learn something and I have shared your channel with friends! Thank you soooo much!!!

@jeffh7951

3 жыл бұрын

Your also the most FUN to watch! I get a sincere sense you have fun doing what you do, as I have so far.

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

So awesome to hear! Thanks so much!

Your videos are amazing. I'm sitting here this week trying to figure out how to make walnut dowling, and this pops up! Sincerely, A Rookie Canadian Lady Woodworker

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Love it when that happens! Glad I posted this at the right time!

Everyone else: square peg in a round hole? Nah impossible her: hold my beer

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

🍻🍻

You are such a blessing to me and my family. Honestly my daughter who is 9 found your videos one day when I was trying to figure out something a cpl years ago. And we have learned so much from watching and rewatching you. God bless you!

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

That’s so awesome to hear!

It makes me so happy seeing how many women are getting into this kind of stuff lately. When I was younger it hardly existed and now it's becoming more and more common

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Makes me happy too ☺️

At 8:30 my heart jumped! Your finger was at the router bit when the sped-up sound of the router bit adjustment went off.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Haha! Have no fear. I always unplug the router when changing bits 😂

Great video Tamar! If I had a router table, the roundover bit method would be my choice. You're limited by the size of the bit but it probably requires the least amount of sanding. Well done!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Your jig looks super cool too. I was shocked at how easy the roundover bit was. And the quality of cut was amazing. Excited about the possibilities!

I've watched dozens, and this is the BEST I've seen. Thanks soooo much, the quick instructions, and the comparisons, helped immensely!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

That’s so awesome to hear. Thanks so much!!

@balta0651

4 жыл бұрын

Like the song I couldn't take my eyes apart of you.. That is what I did. I didn't put attention to the video but you.

Love the visual representation of frame by frame on the tapping in of the dowel

Hitting the stock thro' holes reminded me of my favourite toy as a young kid.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Yeah. It was fun.

For small diameter dowels (e.g. for joinery), it is easy to use a thread die and force a wooden block with a drill through the die. The surface is a little bit rough, but several passes with a folded sandpaper solve that. The nominal size of the die should be larger than the expected dowel diameter.

Thank you for this video! I did the chisel method in a small dowel yesterday and per your point, it was maple and it went well.

Really amazed to watch you doing such skills of wood work with innovative ideas from Router to Dong etc. You are charming as well as your work.

1:02 Vampire slaying game strong.

You should check out Izzy Swan's video on the table saw method. It would be similar to the router table method and double as a work holder while you sand.

@th-ck9vl

3 жыл бұрын

@Don't Poke The Bear So what happens if the bear gets poked

@theblackwoodworkerwilliams4370

3 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought, “just use the table saw” 😎

Thank you for your tips and idea's on projects, they're very entertaining making all of them.

This was great, thanks so much for sharing your experiments! I am going to have to try some of these.

You can clamp a couple of “hoops” downrange to shepherd the spindle in its proper axis. It cuts down on whip. I’ve done this with a very long spindle myself, but I used a block plane. It was a lot like your chisel method, but the entry hole I fashioned was cone-like. I got a glass smooth finish, but I was using a wood that was a very good citizen. It wasn’t ash. 😆

Scrap piece of ash. Words I've never said :) Excellent video, thanks!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! It had a big knot and other stuff. So it wasn’t good for the project I purchased it for. But it was good for something! Ha

@eejuice

4 жыл бұрын

Emerald ash borer beetle killed off all the ash trees in our region recently. We just burn the stuff now. It's all scrap out here. We pay people to chop it down and take it away. Such a shame.

The awesome thing I learned from you is the rope through the dog hole trick for the drill. gives me other ideas to hold things down as well for quick repeatable hold downs. Thanks for that!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So glad it was helpful!!

@ericdanstrom89

4 жыл бұрын

Such skill

You’re a genius Tamar!! I’ve clamped a drill down before to keep it running but keeping control of it with your foot? Inspired!! Awesome content.

Tamar, thanks for a great video. I'm new to woodworking, and this is the first I've seen on making dowels. I had no idea that it could be done in so many different ways. It seems that the rounder over bit would be the way to go. Also, thanks for not feeling like you have to wear a pair of short shorts or low cut tank top to get people to watch. 42,179 views in two days based on good content. Way to go!!!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! There are different ways to do everything in woodworking!! Just gotta figure out what works Nealy for you using the tools you have. There’s no right way! And yeah. I wish I didn’t even have to show myself at all. My channel is about my work. Not me.

I tried the 'old school' chisel method (large pencil sharpener) and found it a bit hit and miss. It did what I wanted but was a bit rough. Thanx for video.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

This really made me smile. So ingenious. Nice job.

Every one of these methods has been covered by others on youtube before. It's getting to the point where every new channel repeats others' content with perhaps a slight spin or just plagiarizes completely. Here, the approaches are freshly presented and the one huge difference is she has shown several ways to get similar results and has covered a large range of sizes so kudos for that! Well done!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So glad you liked it! It’s always fun to explore all the options

It is not necessary to buy a dowel plate. One can be made to any size you want though this works for smaller sizes not 2" limited only be the available drill bits. If one has some steel stock it is only necessary to drill a hole through steel plate say 3mm or 6mm thick. Do not clean off the resultant burr as that is the cutting edge. It really is that simple. Drive the timber stock from the burred side. A commercial dowel plate will last longer because it will be made from harder steel but for an occasional run of dowels or if one needs dowels on the fly and a dowel plate is not available this is a good stand by.

@rockerpat1085

4 жыл бұрын

Nothing is made from "Harden Steel"!!! It's made from unharden steel and then hardened then tempered then sharpened!!!

Almost making threaded dowels on the router table.... ;o)

Thanks! I am gratefull for your projets! Its very nice and very simple!

That router jig was really slick. Ironically, I have a lathe but not a router. Love your shop.

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahah thanks! I can’t wait to get a lathe

Very interesting video. Always wondered how I could make dowels to fill holes that matched the wood I was using and now I know. As a note I clicked on your link in the description for the Dowel Plate and it did not take me to the item on Amazon.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting me know!! I’ll fix it ASAP. That little dowel plate is so fun to use.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Fixed!!

@imstumped2052

4 жыл бұрын

@@3x3CustomTamar Excellent! And I see that this item actually ships to Canada. Now, to trick my wife into letting me get it :)

@imstumped2052

4 жыл бұрын

@@3x3CustomTamar Ok, weird tried clicking the link again and still does not take me to the item on Amazon. Even tried searching Amazon with fewer of the words and did not find it. Searched "Dowel Plate" on Google and one of the results is the Dowel Plate on Amazon with the exact same description as what your link is looking for. Computers are weird. Also tried clicking all your links and the Hold Fasts do not come up either. Maybe it is just me

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

I'm Stumped hmmm maybe it’s a Canada/US thing? If you’re on Instagram you can check out @dfmtoolworks. He’s the guy that makes those

Take a look at a table saw lathe jig. They can make dowels fast and easily change sizes.

@kyoopihd

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Izzy Swan posted another video on it a few months back. He's been using some variation on a table saw jig for it for many years.

I'm extremely glad I found your vids. As a novice woodworker mostly self taught I find your vids helpful. You explore the avenues I need to learn most. Dove tails are the subject I want to learn most. But I need more in depth explanations then I see online. More detail on measurements & angles. For some reason that still stymies me.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear! I’m still working that out myself too. I recently did a video on cutting them by hand for the first time. It was pretty fun

You are really smart and skilled. I absolutely love youtube so I can see things like this thanks

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

My elementary school teachers would laugh at that... ha. Thanks!

sehr schade das es deine videos nicht auf deutsch gibt ich schaue trotzdem jedes video von dir

I’d guess that a slower feed rate on the router jig would reduce sanding a lot.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

could be, I definitely want to play around with it more

@dzfattnutz

4 жыл бұрын

@@3x3CustomTamar make a little fence 90 degrees on the edge of the out feed of your router jig and place some adhesive sanding paper on it maybe? You could sand your piece as it comes out. idk, just a thought.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

dzfattnutz that could be cool

I love the creative problem solving in your posts. Thanks for sharing!

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Glad you like it

Great experiment! Love watching people try things and problem solve. Gets my brain going. nice results too! Thanks for sharing

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. So glad you liked it. I had fun experimenting 😉

Before I got my lathe I would do things this way. However I still sand dowels by pounding a socket on the end. Electrical tape helps hold it together if sockets and extensions are loose. (Your other hand is free for sanding) But while you're teaching yourself a strategy, you'll pick up 3 more in the process. You can also use hole saws to turn your pieces, as long as they are similar diameter. And if you cut the top of your hole saws out, and mount it good, that would cut dowels as well. What the hell, go buy yourself a wood lathe. They are so much fun! Oh, and most hole saws are not near long enough!! So...... Why couldn't somebody buy steel pipe? Cut teeth on one end, and screw a cap on the other with say....⅝" nut welded on top? This person could take 40 grit sandpaper and thin the pipe walls above the teeth (reducing friction) this person could make it 6" or even 12". She could even post it on her own channel and show us how it works😁

That little tool first up is so cool. Never knew that existed. Haha. As always you have so many cool trinkets. I love it!

Lots of great ideas in this video. Such an amazing woman.

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked them!

isnt the last part basically a lathe, anyways?

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Without having to purchase one

this video is actually perfect timing for me... just bought the rockler corner doweling jig for some xmas gifts.. now I can use that plate and make some purple heart or padouk dowels... thanks!!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Love when that happens

Thanks, Tamar! Love this video. Currently making a handle for a garden cart and the roundover bit method is exactly what I need.

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad it was helpful! I’ve been using that method a lot too

She has everything except a lathe

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Not true

@stephenleacock4371

4 жыл бұрын

Not true cos you have a lathe ? Or not true cos you dont have everything 😁

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Leacock not true. I don’t have have everything. Ha I need a jointer! And a good bandsaw!! Haha!

I believe this girl is into dowelism. :0.

This is great stuff. Anytime I have wing nuts, hex nuts, threaded rod ends, or pretty much anything that is going to tighten down against a wood surface with circular motion, for longevity of the mating surface I always make allowance for washers.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. It is very educational

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! Thanks!

Thanks Tamar! I appreciate you doing the experiments for us!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! I have fun doing them ha

Loved the video! It is always such a pleasure to watch you. You are one smart and brave woman (wood worker).

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks thanks so much. So happy you liked it

Its funny that your video is the answer I am looking for. I said to my self, 'self I need a 1-7/8 dowel' , This was in my head and nobody knew I was thinking on this problem. Thank you.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha. Awesome.

Very informative! I've used the roundover bit method before but wasn't aware of the other ways you showed to make a dowel. Also loved the sanding method with the rope through the dog hole!!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! The roundover bit was by far the easiest and cleanest. So no need to try the others. Ha! It was a really fun experiment though. Glad you liked the rope trick 😂

Haha. I like the "if this were a real project" line. Of course if it were your second real project you'd have marked the points to route to but it's not a real project if you don't do it wrong the first time... And, if it were a real project, you'd stop in the middle and drive to Home Depot - at least twice.. But what a great video. For me without even a shop, let alone a lathe, these ideas are going to help me make some great custom dowels and thread them differently on the ends of the same dowel... Ok, probably won't help me make great dowels but it will help me make some functional, serviceable, dowel projects. I'll let you know about "great" in 5 or 10 years.

This was a great video. Quick, to the point, no filler. I really think the router trick is your best idea here.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! So glad to hear!

Awesome video Tamar. Ranks along with your best. New ideas coming thick and fast. All with great filmmaking and personality.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! I really appreciate that!!

Really cool idea on the router jig. I will be trying it. Thank you.

Some nice demonstrations there. I wouldn't give up too quickly on the mounted-chisel method. I know from experience that the results (with regard to smoothness and tear-out) are very sensitive to position and angle of the chisel. A small change can make a big difference. Here's another effective method: using a draw-knife, followed by a spoke shave at a shaving horse. For greater accuracy you can make a template as a half-round cutout in the side of a piece of cardboard (or aluminum flashing, or vinyl siding) to test the roundness when you begin getting close.

Woow the light comme back to us again. Thanks a lote. My favorite Channel

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear. Thanks!

@3x3Custom - Tamar - You are so creative! I'm just getting into woodworking & am so impressed with how creatively you solve your problems. It's much better to use ingenuity to solve problems instead of just running out and buying another piece of equipment. Well done!

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear!

Love it! I especially like the rope and drill trick, definitely going to be using that one. I use a dowel plate myself, and I thought it made perfectly fine dowels in just one pass.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It seemed fine after one pass. It be instructions said 2 passes. Oh well. And that drill trick was fun. Ha

This is awesome! I am now going to start making my own custom dowels great video, I use them when I do banjo neck repair to drill out the lag holes bigger then dowel the holes and cut them flush then re drill the holes.

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad it was helpful!

Parabéns, excelente,muito grato por esta aula maguinifica

Great video on making Dow-wells. Thanks!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! Thanks!

So glad I found your channel. Your videos and instruction is tailor made for a beginner like myself. I look forward to diving into the rest of your channel.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

Very cool!!! Great video editing too. Looks like you had fun.Thanks for sharing your time.👍👍👍👍👍

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

I did have fun! Except win the chisel. Ha.

I understand the goal of KZread woodworking is to get enough views to warrent sponsorship. But i am grateful you have normal rulers instead of the expensive woodpeckers brand.(not that they're bad, just pricey), Thanks for being down-to-earth.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Ha! I have a few woodpeckers squares. One I actually purchased in my sleep. Was a fun package to open 😂😂😂

This is awesome! Thank you for doing all the research for us and showing us what works and what doesn't. G'day for Australia

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So glad you appreciated it. But just bc I found a method that worked for me, doesn’t mean that’s going to work for everyone. Ha

Super helpful. Thanks for comparing every method.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it

Wow some of these were completely out of the box and I had never considered before. Thanks for sharing!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Glad you liked it

Tamar, you are a freaking genius.

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

☺️☺️

I need to make about a dozen file handles and I think your router method will be perfect, square ends and all. I'm going to experiment with completely and partially round handles and see what I like best. Thanks for the video!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Good luck!

wow, great coverage of the various methods! thanks!

@3x3CustomTamar

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I really enjoyed watching this...

I am also a carpenter and I love your work. I live in Iran.🌷🌷🌷👌👌👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

We all ways love watching your shows. 👍

@3x3CustomTamar

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear!

@m.l.gleatheritems2598

2 жыл бұрын

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@m.l.gleatheritems2598

2 жыл бұрын

Give us a call. Michael

@m.l.gleatheritems2598

2 жыл бұрын

So if we are in Wamuran what is home to you. Michael

@m.l.gleatheritems2598

2 жыл бұрын

And our daughter Grace is 11.

The router technique is very slick! Great video

@3x3CustomTamar

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

You’re tips are the best! Love the rope and drill hack.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you like them!

Wow! I learned something useful today...

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome

@valveman12

4 жыл бұрын

@@3x3CustomTamar You are awesome...Subscribed

you're an awesome teacher and woodworker! Just a thought... you could make it more stable by adding a second block to the jig (on the outfeed side) of the dimension of the dowel

In this quarantine where all stores are closed (at least here in Puerto Rico) this video saved me!!! I needed to do a small dowel without a lathe and the router option you showed worked great for me!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So awesome! So happy it was helpful! But sorry about this quarantine lock down situation. I’m just outside NYC. Hopefully this will all be over soon

This was a great video. I like to use dowels and find it hard just buy ones I want. Your vids really set you apart from the others!

Thank you, very good tips👍👍👍

Sooooo genius, i love how creative, resourcefull and intelligent are you. Greeting from Medellin, Colombia

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! I appreciate that!

I saw a video of another woodworker using a similar method to your router setup. He basically had a crosscut sled with high vertical end pieces. Then he had something attached to one end acting as a point on some sort of bearing holding the far end of the work piece. And then he attached a cordless drill on the other end of the work piece just as you did to spin it. Then he just turned on the table saw and pushed the sled over the blade. It looked like it worked incredibly well.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Was that Michael Alms video?

@Rowgue51

4 жыл бұрын

@@3x3CustomTamar I don't recall. I did a search to try to cite the proper video after I commented, but I didn't find the one that I had originally seen. There are lots of others that use the same general method, but the first one I stumbled on seemed far superior in every respect. Can't seem to find it now though.

Great work on the doweling jigs Tamar! always fun to learn new things :) Thank you for sharing the video with us.👌👍😎JP

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So glad you liked it! Thanks!

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos

4 жыл бұрын

Your very welcome Tamar! Have a wonderful weekend! 😎

Simples e funcional, parabéns!

Wonderful videos and techniques. I love all your stuff! Congrats!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

You're very ingenious and interesting ideas are fantastic. Thanks for this.

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. Thanks!

Once again, amazing video, really appreciate the content. So easy to follow!

@3x3CustomTamar

4 жыл бұрын

So awesome to hear! Thanks!