MAKING GROOVING BORING BARS
Making a group of carbide tipped grooving boring bars. CAD design is covered as is a method for repeatable location of the bars in making them and using them. Lots of grinding setups and non typical lapping techniques. The boring bar shanks are ground out of hardened dowel pins.
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Your Commentary at 45:00 is SO powerfull. Thank you Robin!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stefan, and thanks for your support and friendship! ATB, Robin
New Renzetti video up. Forget sleep, need to do the first round of watching. Then come back tomorrow and watch it again for better understanding. Thank you Robin for such informative videos. You rock.
Chuck Norris approves this video. It probably didn't take him much longer that the actual video to do all of the tools. Great work Robin! Cheers, Tom
@forrestaddy9644
4 жыл бұрын
Tom, ever wonder how Rob splits firewood or builds a barbeque? I'd like to be a fly on the wall for the tool prep.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Chuck! ;-) ATB, Robin
It makes me very happy to see craftsman like this practicing craft with such high degrees of technicality, and with the intention of practicality out of their own little shops. What a fantastic imagination, fantastic engineer, fantastic technician, and a fantastic understanding of materials and processes. Rob is in a league in which very few people reside. Its a tragedy that the spirit and craft of people like Rob go unrecognized even by their own "kind". I can only imagine that such a high degree of forethought comes (partly) from an intimate relationship with hindsight.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very kind words.
This is well above my pay grade and abilities Robin, but I thoroughly enjoy your videos for that very reason. Thank you for sharing!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
I get so much out of your videos, Robin. I genuinely appreciate the time and effort you put in. It's always a pleasure and a serious learning experience when you post, and learning is truly one of my greatest joys! Glad you're safe and well, and I hope the same is true for your family and loved ones. Keep the great content coming, and I really look forward to a follow up to your Renzo-meter/flatness/repeat-o-meter work you started a couple years ago. I have an everlasting appetite for insight, and you bring gold with every post. Cheers!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
You make this retired tool maker wish he had another lifetime to live and perfect his skills. Thank you so much for what you share!!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
When I first went to a professional baseball game, I thought to myself, "right there, in that field, are people who are the absolute best at what they do." I get the same feeling from Robin.
Tool grinding by the numbers with the object of making them interchangeable: amazing concept. Back in my day, I was thrilled if my free-hand internal O-ring tool even made chips. Remarkable what a difference the right equipment and a well-planned approach does for obtaining first time success. Fascinatin' journey Robin. Thanks for the trip. My younger self is green with envy.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Forrest! ATB, Robin
The jack screw UNDER the VISE is another EASTER EGG for every machinist!
It’s so wonderful being privileged to watch a scientist/engineer disguised as a machinist work his magic! Thank you Robin. You are truly amazing!
An hour of shear MECHANICAL GENIUS....! Such a pleasure to watch you work, and your videos puts us right there where we can see it all happening. Hopefully your camera didn't melt during the silver soldering process. Great camera shots. If all machining channels had the quality content and camera work that you provide.... I can only hope....! THANK YOU....!
@ROBRENZ
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
44:53/59:43 Really appreciate this note on the value of doing the time-consuming or tedious things sometimes. People give me crap for wanting to do things myself even if I don't always enjoy them rather than hiring a professional and I always tell them, 'I already know how to spend money.' Great video as always, Robin.
Absolutely outstanding content. Thank you for the many ideas and for pointing out the pot holes along the way. I had never thought about what happens when we clamp a vise within a vise. Good one of Many. Thank you for all the effort it takes to put on a video like this.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Robin has my vote for Guru! I never fail to learn something valuable watching any of his videos.
So much there to unpack and apply to my own practice. Best part: so clearly narrated and shot that a second viewing is not needed.
More like MAKING GROOVING INTERESTING BARS amirite? Robin, thanks for your expertise and professionalism and your willingness to share your process. Always really interesting and informative.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
Some day every one has an estate sale, I pray I don't miss yours !! You gotta be the best machinist on KZread by far !!
I watch Robin's videos slack jawed...As much as I watch I still have have a hard time believing that someone is this good in our fallible world.
Wow! Your narration is a model of clarity. No way I could have even begun to understand otherwise. So much valuable information/ explanation here.
@ROBRENZ
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Damn, was prepared to go to workshop but that will wait now! Thank you Renzetti
Two videos in a few weeks. Must be Christmas. Thanks rob.
Great grasp of knowledge on what needs to be dead nuts perfect and what can slide. Thanks for putting out another video Robin.
You gotta love when he clarifies that there is "no need to go crazy splitting tenths" when grinding relief and then 5 seconds later he's dialing it in within 3 tenths.
@TheRlovett
4 жыл бұрын
The workpiece dials itself in when it sees Robin enter the shop
The grinding guru strikes again with another fantastic video packed to the brim with takaway brain food and heaps of inspiration. Thank you Robin, loved every second :D
Thanks as always Robin. Great point about being able to develop skills as we go!
I just finished watching this video. And i should say that: sir, thank you for sharing these. Educational More than 10 handbooks.
@ROBRENZ
3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
The amount of small details to be dealt in order to get the desired results, and, in your case making many units and achieving repeatability. An hour well spent watching...
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pierre!
Like I said Robin, If you got the energy . Please dont hesitate to make more videos. Just seeing the tools, order of operations.and the considerations of will it rub. I'm making swiss type tooling for a sieg C6 lathe four position. Every thing with adjustable hight(hate shims)Probly a er 16 collet position with that repeatable pin ,Basicly so it pulls out and you can choke up a smaller boring bar. most of it made from the throws of a small block chevy. You kidding me I get up at 5 am to do thi9s stuff love it. Thanks Robin you save alot of trial and error
Robin it is just unbelievable at what level you are, thanks for sharing this wealth of knowledge!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
Thank you very much for sharing Robin We really appreciate the effort involved in putting it all into a video
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks very much for this Mr RobRenz. Most enjoyable and inspiring. Your comments about 'developing skills' at 45:00 sum it up very well. Onwards and upwards as my good old father used to say! Kudos for your camera and video making skills as well . . .
@ROBRENZ
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for giving everyone something to think about even though not everyone is going to grind their own tools. I have a tool and cutter grinder and still enjoy your methodology. It's not necessary to own every machine made. As is said on a KZread channel, " GET ER DONE " GREAT VIDEO 👍
The tip about vise clamping is excellent. Thanks.
Wow. That’s some cutting-edge technology right there. Awesome.
@5tr41ghtGuy
4 жыл бұрын
"cutting-edge technology" - I see what you did there ;-P
I would like to thank you for the amazing content. And make a request for a video on the modifications you did on your punch grinder. Thank you again sir
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
I can't seem to find a word that could possibly pay a high enough compliment to you for this video Robin ! You didn't just raise the bar with this one - you launched it into space ! Thank you for the incredible effort it must have taken to film and edit this video ! I learned many things from it and it entertained me immensely !
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
Another amazing collection of tips, tricks, and fixturing ideas. You are an indispensable asset. Thank you so much for sharing.
Thanks for a video on such detailed workmanship. Lots of items to practice now.
A really helpful video. Very clear exposition of making a job simpler than it might have been, with lots of points of technique that carry to all over the place.
Thanks for another fantastically informative vid Robin. This answers so many questions, thanks for the time you take in making these informative lessons.
I'm an electronics engineer, and hobby machinist, but I've spent my life fascinated by the toolmaking profession, but seldom get good insight into the deeper details of this craft as there are so few avenues for access when you don't work around this kind of thing. Thanks RNZ et al (Stefan G etc) for sharing these skills in such great detail. So entertaining, enjoyable and Sincerely appreciated!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
Awesome content as always Robin, I'm going to have to binge watch a bunch more of your videos. Thanks!
Thank you Robin. I found this fascinating.
Robin, thank you for sharing your knowledge and amazing skills.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice work! I enjoy your techniques, learn something every time. I use this most every day as most of my work needs a special tool of some sort. Keep them coming. Thank you!
Another video, what a treat!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Robin, thank you for taking time out of your day to share this amazing information!
You have great skills Robin, a true master. Challenging ones self is the only way to better yourself. Oh very nice tools by the way.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy and thanks for watching! ATB, Robin
👍🏻👍🏻 One of the great things about machining is there is always another way to do something. Always enjoy your videos!!!
Thank you Robin - for your gift of knowledge. i see you're up late!! kind regards from John Spargo in Cape Town
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
Wonderful video. Thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you
Great work, pre-planning helps a lot. I always had some trial and error efficiently making parts like this. Thank you for recording your work, (probably adding 5x the time to making parts) it makes things a little less complicated for people who do this the first time.
Having acquired a very good surface grinder recently, I hadn't yet considered the full extent of possibilities in tool grinding and grinding carbide. As luck would have it, I also stumbled upon a heap of special carbide tools which somehow gotten into the hands of someone who didn't realize what it was. All new stuff, special grinds. I inquired at the company that made them because I could not really figure out what the tools' intended use was. Turns out it it made for brass, two lip cutters running on transfer machines. There was a company in my town who reorganised and relocated and obviously these tools were obsolete. I figure the bars (from 10 to 25 mm in diameter, some quite long) will be very good stock for grinding special carbide tools. Thanks again for a great inspirational video.
Rob I just want to thank You alot for the knowledge You share. I dont think You guys realize how much You enspire us young generation of people interested in the subject of machining to try and be better and attain a higher level of expertise. You are greatly appreciated.
Brilliant idea! I'm making some of those holders.
Robin you make learning fun. Thank you.
Thank you for another great video. You are way out of my league.
Your knowledge on machining subject is amazing
Awesome as always. The commentary on grinding your own vs. buying, was perfectly timed, as I was already heading down that path. Thanks for the course correction. Tool geometry is one thing that is seldom talked about..x angle clearance vs. y .. positive, negative or neutral rakes and so forth and oh yeah, for z material. Those are all variables that can drive even an experienced guy nutz!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
WOW, you are so patient, nice work, thanks for sharing your skills, cheers from me. 😷👍👍👍
Wow Robin! Thanks for sharing.
Wow!!!! The amount of information you give is mind blowing. Thank you!!!!!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
I just found your channel, I'm loving all of this so much! ❤️
A lot of great ideas as I am developing tooling to use my surface grinder for tool and cutter grinding. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and techniques.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Beautiful work! Your narrative and video quality are exceptional and I learned some really good techniques!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Thank you for another video! Always a treat.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
talk about teaching a man to fish... you can make tools for me any time. great video... Im just a machine tooling groupie i guess... i only gave 2 crappy old vices and a grinder. your shop and your vices are awesome. I used to run a 2 table 3 axis cnc and 20 years ago carbide bits and mills cost 60 to 150 dollars per bit. you coild save thousands and whatsmore it allows you the liberty to be more experimental with your orojects knowing you can afford to replace mills. great stuff... really super informative and your delivery was easy to follow. thanks for making it. subscribed
@ROBRENZ
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great tips Robin, thanks for sharing. Hearing your commentary on making your own bits makes me think I need to spend more time with our Cuttermaster tool grinder.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
You can do it!
Excellent video as always. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week :)
@ROBRENZ
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
Wonderful video. Thanks for sharing! Very interesting and informative.
Now you just make me feel lazy! Fantastic to watch!
Beautiful work and wonderful attention to detail - thanks.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
Perfect illustration and explenations, interesting how strong the silver solder joint is.
Wow. Thank you so much. Really makes me feel I missed out not doing tool making. I really get great joy watching your though process and execution. Some people watch violin. We watch Robin
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
Thank you Rob, Information dense, phew. Deserves a few viewings to glean the most out of it. Little stuff like the screw jack in the grinding vice are obvious, if I thought about it, before my disastrous... Please keep talking to us with these techniques and tips. Carl from Oz
Great video! The light bulbs just kept coming on thru the whole video! 2nd video of yours I've watched so I'll stop here for awhile and absorb a bunch of this into my shop routine so it'll be sort of engrained so I won't have to keep reviewing the 2 I've watched... Bunches of technics here but my mind is fitting them in to some things that are already on the list! Thanks for your time and sharing! 👍😎
thanks for sharing. I always say projets breed projects but I just look at like you explained it's a skill builder.
Some very nice tooling 😊. I made some similar ones out of drill rod, turning eccentric, but I just left a bit on the end for a grooving tool and the other an internal threading tool. They work pretty good but yours are on a whole other level 🙂. Beautiful work, love it. 👍😁👍
Another great video, Rob!
As always - very informative and inspiring video. The amount of knoweledge You have and You share is remarkable.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
So nice of you
Another fantastic video.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
Fascinating - as always.
Super great teaching Buddy! Lots of goodies in this one! Thanks so much for sharing! 👍💪
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
As far as I know you can't buy consumable tools with such attention to detail. Thanks for the video.
Oh yeah Steffen showed that system a while back. Very nice job man.
Perfect,as always..
Informative as ever Robin, thank you for all your wonderful content!
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Love this video. I have had to make special boring bars in my shop and have done all the operations that you performed here except the lapping of the edge (thanks!) I have every fixture and machine that you showed in the video in my shop as well. Just amazing. please do more videos showing making boring bars out of HSS similar to the micro 100 bars that are commercially available. Regardless of cost, such tools are not quickly available when your shop is in the countryside (or on weekends). Thank you
I feel like Robin should be working for one of the big machine tooling companies like Sandvik, Iscar, Kennametal, Sumitomo or Horn. Definitely has the skill and know how.
And now I can't look at my hand ground boring bars and think "Boy that looks cherry" anymore. Way to knock my ego down! 😅 Thank you for the videos, moving into a more precise area of industry your tutorials have been a great help getting me to think of precise again, undoing the damage of the last 5 years running sloppy with +/- .002" tolerance and caliper checks being overkill.
@humanistwriting5477
2 жыл бұрын
I say past five years But the five before that had even more slop.
Thank you for another educational video. I’m going to apply some of those concept in what I do.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
I find it funny how you often say "we don't need to be super precise" and are still getting things within thousandths of an inch lol, toolmaker's definition of imprecise is different than mine I guess. Keep up the good work.
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
So true!
I never watch one of your videos and not learn something. Thanks for taking the time to make these. I know how much time it takes...
@ROBRENZ
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
Amazing work mate!
@ROBRENZ
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Robin, brilliant set up. You mentioned skill development, but if I may, I would like to add tool making is intrinsically satisfying as well (for me anyway). I so enjoy watching your tool making episodes. While I probably never in my daily work will encounter 99% of what you run up against. The little nuggets of knowledge you pass on to us are so valuable. For example today your explanation of "Pumping the vise" is something most of us could use on a regular basis. I admit, I never much thought while doing a vise on vise set up. Or the small screw jack in the slot. Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts and ideas Robin. Cheers, Warren
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Very satisfying!
Love your videos. Im not a machinist but i appreciate the precision. The smallest units i work with would be a 64th, which seems like a mile compared to your measurments. I build custom battery packs for a living but i watch machining videos because alot of concepts and thought process can be used in any kind of work. Thanks for sharing.
"Let's not get carried away here" We've past that sign post long ago.... :)
thank you for another great and entertaining video
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video, lots of great ideas. Thanks
@ROBRENZ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!