Making a new Vise Threaded Rod for a Mill Vise

Channel viewer Tim Riley made a visit to the shop to get some help making new vise threads for a Palmgren vise that he purchased that had damaged threads. I put Tim to work on the lathe, learning how to machine his own work! Follow along as we turn and cut acme threads for his vise.
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  • @Stormin_Norman
    @Stormin_Norman5 жыл бұрын

    I've been machining for 50 years and sadly, there's not enough of teaching this trade today... Good job Keith and Tim.. And Tim, never stop learning this trade, the world needs more ambitious guys like you.... Keep it going..

  • @dave3813

    @dave3813

    Жыл бұрын

    If you ever have the desire to teach and live in Virginia please let me know sir!

  • @rjkejk57
    @rjkejk575 жыл бұрын

    Keith thanks for giving Tim the great opportunity to do some of the work himself, the error he made will stick with him forevermore, thus he will remember to double check his operations a little more carefully. The entire experience on a up and coming machinist was a fantastic adventure for him and I am sure he will be ever great full to you! Thank you for showing this video, it may also help other young viewers.

  • @thomhollands

    @thomhollands

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well said. and Good job to Keith for involving Tim. You just can't learn some skills without doing them and, more importantly making the mistakes. Mistakes are, after all make up a valuable part of experience

  • @jeremycable51

    @jeremycable51

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish when I was younger someone local to me had some equipment I could just see in use it’s really not been but the past couple years that I’ve seen how this stuff works that it’s captured my interest your doing great things keeping this side of machining alive thank you for all that you do

  • @MichaelLloyd
    @MichaelLloyd5 жыл бұрын

    Well done Keith and Tim. It was very kind of you to help Tim out Keith.

  • @garyseaman6105
    @garyseaman61053 жыл бұрын

    Its wonderful you are passing your skills to others. Keeps the knowledge alive.

  • @dkane1111
    @dkane11114 жыл бұрын

    I have worked for Hardinge Inc. for 39 years. Everything really important that I have learned in my life came from mistakes. Don't feel bad Tim. This is how great workers are made.

  • @wilde.coyote6618

    @wilde.coyote6618

    3 жыл бұрын

    A Romanian machinist once told me, " Man with hands in pockets, makes no mistakes. "

  • @davidhall1779
    @davidhall17792 жыл бұрын

    love to see young folks wanting to learn a trade. excellant job tutoring him.

  • @raincoast2396
    @raincoast23965 жыл бұрын

    Your generosity is commendable Keith. Sharing knowledge from a mentor to a budding machinist.

  • @TAWPTool
    @TAWPTool5 жыл бұрын

    Love to see real learning in action! Thanks for sharing Keith.

  • @donbaker9373
    @donbaker93735 жыл бұрын

    I try to learn something every day. I'm 76 and still have lots of memory left. It is the journey not the destination that makes the trip.

  • @jonka1

    @jonka1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well said. I'm right there with you.

  • @FredMiller
    @FredMiller5 жыл бұрын

    I yelled at the screen as loud as I could about left hand threads and you did not hear me. LOL Been there "multiple" times unfortunately. Kudos to you for teaching younger folks. I regularly have interested fellas into the shop for some machine time. So satisfying to see them smile when they finish a part.

  • @Craneman4100w

    @Craneman4100w

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too, but I yelled "Keith, try heating the ring before cut it off", he didn't hear me either.

  • @twotonetim8381
    @twotonetim83815 жыл бұрын

    Way to take the extra step and help this guy and at the same time pass on some of your knowledge to someone new to the trade. You are a great guy Keith

  • @johnnyholland8765
    @johnnyholland87655 жыл бұрын

    It was good of you to help this fellow with your schedule and all. As far as his little mistake I wouldn't sweat it. I like you have been doing this stuff for years and still make mistakes too. Sometimes it is the simple ones that bite the hardest. It is how you learn. I have seen some damaged vices before but that one takes the cake! Palmgren is a pretty good vise. Glad the boy got some time in your shop and learned a few things. You may have started a trend..........

  • @dannyoktim9628
    @dannyoktim96285 жыл бұрын

    Good to see a young guy willing to learn . . .not to many around . . .Good luck Tim.

  • @neillsmart213
    @neillsmart2135 жыл бұрын

    Good teacher, good student. If we never made mistakes we would not know what to look out for

  • @jimhumphrey
    @jimhumphrey5 жыл бұрын

    It's really tough to teach and do at the same time. I commend you both for the effort and the willingness to show the world. Tim I hope you caught a bug for the process and if you did it's worth all the effort!

  • @davidmotoman4956
    @davidmotoman49565 жыл бұрын

    Good on you Keith for taking the time out to show Tim how its Done. Yes learning some times by making mistakes. Long as the lad has learned all good :) Dave from Australia

  • @kevinfaulkner8801
    @kevinfaulkner88015 жыл бұрын

    I always make the biggest mistakes when teaching someone the "right way" to do things. You both learned some things and I would like to see more videos of the masters teaching others. It was great seeing the Monarch making real chips again.

  • @chuckthebull
    @chuckthebull5 жыл бұрын

    We learn a lot from these little blunders, great to see you teaching a new generation. Threading is a very anxious process but a great skill to master. once you do you feel like DAM i can make anything.. I'm also rebuilding a big engine lathe and excited to make my own mistakes...cheers

  • @Dwarfracer88
    @Dwarfracer885 жыл бұрын

    Tim, start a KZread channel. I think a lot of us would like to see your journey from complete newbie to having a running shop. You could show your mistakes and solutions so that we can all learn right along with you. Finding a Palmgren mill vise for $20.00 is a definite score. With that kind of eye you should have a nice shop in no time.

  • @timreilly1533

    @timreilly1533

    5 жыл бұрын

    I actually do. Starting my shop from the ground up. It's OldRedFord00

  • @PhilGoldblum
    @PhilGoldblum5 жыл бұрын

    There is no work more valuable to all of us than teaching someone a new skill. Thanks to Keith for sharing his knowledge and Tim for his effort to learn.

  • @timreilly1533
    @timreilly15335 жыл бұрын

    I had a fun time going to Keith's shop and learning. I probably could have picked something besides left handed acme threads but I wanted a challenge.

  • @b92555
    @b925555 жыл бұрын

    What a cool set of videos it would be to follow you and Tim in his learning adventure.

  • @charlescompton4495
    @charlescompton44955 жыл бұрын

    As a masonry instructor I had many students that learned and sometimes that was by making mistakes. I also learned realizing I had not watched them close enough! But it was as your video shows a good learning process all around... Even for us who watched! Thanks, Greg.

  • @joeblan9426
    @joeblan94265 жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed Tim learning.If he doesn't live to far away,maybe a few videos with Tim would be nice,Keith!

  • @robertoswalt319
    @robertoswalt3195 жыл бұрын

    You are a true saint. Not only did you help him fix his vise, you also let him use your machines to learn a new skill.

  • @DomManInT1
    @DomManInT15 жыл бұрын

    Wish I could teach more guys like this. I did teach a fellow how to use compound infeed for threading about a month ago to get a better quality thread without as much chatter. He was thrilled with the results.

  • @CraftedChannel
    @CraftedChannel5 жыл бұрын

    I love this video and the demonstration of mentor-ship. And the rest of you who need mentor-ship: Don't underestimate the joy of a gift you give older retired person when you ask them to spend a little time helping you or explaining something. When you need help remember others in society who benefit from the engagement and the acknowledgement of their value and worth. Kindness is free. These experiences are never forgotten.

  • @andyZ3500s

    @andyZ3500s

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well said, this type of thing needs to happen more often. By the time I was in my thirties I noticed the kids just starting out would never ask questions. One day someone did something wrong. So I explained to them you never stop leaning and I want to hear questions all day long. It worked from then on all I heard how do you do this I do it this way because and so on. I would love to have younger people around to mentor I am disabled but still have a nice shop and over a half century of wisdom going to waste.

  • @CraftedChannel

    @CraftedChannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@andyZ3500s Thank you for your kind words. I don't have any children and when I get a chance to help a younger person it really lights up my day. I'm still working and one of the highlights is the "intern" time of year at the university. I'm actually contemplating some future where I have an intern for home workshop stuff one or two days a week for a period each summer. Don't know if I'll ever be able to swing that we'll see.

  • @andyZ3500s

    @andyZ3500s

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@CraftedChannel thanks crafted the home workshop would be a great thing even if it helped a couple kids. Tim brought back memories of when everything was in front of me. I am only 53 but have a bad case of trigeminal neuralgia 28 years now. Since I was hit when I was only 25 I never married so there is nobody to pass things to either. I'm have been able to get out once in a while and have been doing some volunteer work. We have alot of good things going on where I live ---- gold country Ca. Take a look at the knight foundry in Sutter Creek I have been working there and was a docent in some open house tours. It was established in 1873. The people who worked there then would still recognize it. The important part is that I am doing better than ever and just getting started. So Google the knight foundry, and it's on KZread also. I'm in there for a few seconds look for the handsome guy in the pattern shop. 🙂

  • @tonycavill3908
    @tonycavill39083 жыл бұрын

    Very nice gesture keith ,you just took me back to when I started my apprenticeship in Aprill 1954.

  • @antonsijmons145
    @antonsijmons1455 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you help other people really great

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap83995 жыл бұрын

    Ouch, what a mess!. Great to see a wide range of skills used to effect a as new/remanufactured item. Good to see a younger person experiencing the sound practices, method and solution. Thanks for sharing and best regards from the UK.

  • @mikemarriam
    @mikemarriam5 жыл бұрын

    What a privilege to work in your shop, use your machines, and be taught by you. Tim must be an extraordinary young man for you to invest in him that way. It would be a thrill just to watch you work Keith no less by taught by you. Great way to pay it forward. God bless.

  • @donteeple6124
    @donteeple61242 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly why all of us should adhere to the " bring a kid to work" ethic. Not that Tim;s a kid but you know what I mean. Plant the seed and it will grow. !!!!!

  • @Rich206L
    @Rich206L5 жыл бұрын

    Great episode, Keith. Nothing like passing on the skills it took us so long to learn! Rich

  • @carlwhite8225
    @carlwhite82255 жыл бұрын

    Its nice to see you sharing your skills with our youth.Good guy you are.

  • @BuildSomthingCool
    @BuildSomthingCool5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tim. Good to see you on Keith channel

  • @atschirner
    @atschirner5 жыл бұрын

    Keith, the best way to learn is to teach. Thanks for passing your knowledge on to the next generation.

  • @28gwdavies
    @28gwdavies5 жыл бұрын

    Well done Tim. We all learn from our mistakes, even Keith started to turn the wrong handed thread! You were under pressure first time and all, and with a camera on you, you did fine. We should all offer our services to the youngsters and newbies whenever we can.

  • @JapanPop
    @JapanPop5 жыл бұрын

    The heart of a teacher! Keith, you exude kindness and knowledge.

  • @P61guy61
    @P61guy615 жыл бұрын

    Excellent episode! A mentor like you is confident enough to let others learn from all aspects of the process. Awesome.

  • @silvergoldking
    @silvergoldking5 жыл бұрын

    For your 1st time he did a great job. I would be happy just to come over and see the shop.

  • @georgeescaped6035
    @georgeescaped60352 жыл бұрын

    to get private lessons from Mr Keith i would clean his shop forever!

  • @chrismate2805
    @chrismate28055 жыл бұрын

    When I heard the Ding-Dong sound, I realised it was a good lesson. Knowing about something and getting the knowledge reinforced is another, so I got two reinforcements from this, awareness of direction and depth, thanks for showing.

  • @Wulfmoon9
    @Wulfmoon95 жыл бұрын

    It is nice to see everyone makes error and can be caught in time to save the project. I tend to learn more that way

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer
    @mattthescrapwhisperer5 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate you taking the time to mentor a young fella. I'm sure he has been bit by the machinist bug now.

  • @thomasedwards2839
    @thomasedwards28395 жыл бұрын

    The doctor is in teaching the next generation.

  • @tlum4081

    @tlum4081

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's good Tim is learning the manual method. However, I wonder if tech schools still teach the manual ways or just teach the students to design in a 3D CAD program and auto generate the G code for the CNC lathe? Technology is good but the old knowledge is sadly disappearing. It's going to be like the sci-fi stories where nobody knows how to fix the machines when they break.

  • @dinotom1
    @dinotom15 жыл бұрын

    Great job teaching him. Imparting your knowledge on others is a great way to get the younger generation involved in machining

  • @DavoShed
    @DavoShed4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting watching someone take their very first cut on a lathe. I bet it was a bit daunting for him doing it on camera as well :)

  • @MaturePatriot
    @MaturePatriot5 жыл бұрын

    BOZO has run amuck! A Machinist in training, learning the good, and the ways things go bad. What not to do next time. We have all been there. He has had a "taste" of machining, and that taste is hard to get out of your mouth. He's hooked.

  • @cawensil3264
    @cawensil32645 жыл бұрын

    That ws really awesome. You brought in someone and helped them along their journey. We need more people like that.

  • @lewiemcneely9143
    @lewiemcneely91435 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Keith! You both did GOOD!

  • @MrPossumeyes
    @MrPossumeyes4 жыл бұрын

    I love the knowledge in this channel!

  • @peebee143
    @peebee1435 жыл бұрын

    Also...Have learned so much from so many during my years in the hobby of 'playing trains'. It is far more than what it sounds like! there is a love for the beast that breathes when it steams, the art in knowing what to do when it needs a little love and tenderness, and the knowledge of how to use this tool or that tool to effect the repairs required. A different day with different tools and materials and this job would have needed different planning to achieve a similar end.

  • @paulatkinson2849
    @paulatkinson28495 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see u passing experiences to the next generation of machinists keith

  • @bxb590
    @bxb5905 жыл бұрын

    Tim's lucky. He's got a pretty nice friend to show him the way. Keep up the good work.

  • @johncloar1692
    @johncloar16925 жыл бұрын

    To pass knowledge along is a wonderful thing to do.

  • @MarionMakarewicz
    @MarionMakarewicz5 жыл бұрын

    Can you imagine Mrpete teaching a class when this happened? One would never forget!

  • @jimad
    @jimad5 жыл бұрын

    That's great! Tim will do a great job as he continues to learn, I'm sure!

  • @gasparini76
    @gasparini765 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Keith. Thanks for sharing. cheers.

  • @davesalzer3220
    @davesalzer32205 жыл бұрын

    Well done, both of y’all.

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee64785 жыл бұрын

    sweet .. I sure ENJOYED .. Tim took away some know how ,, and some fire to get his lathe up and going !

  • @k1mgy
    @k1mgy5 жыл бұрын

    !!! Congratulations Tim. You gotter' done!!!

  • @jerrycoleman2610
    @jerrycoleman26105 жыл бұрын

    Keith & Tim, great video and great learning experience thanks for sharing.!.!.!.

  • @rotattor
    @rotattor5 жыл бұрын

    You would have been an awesome shop teacher Keith !

  • @andyZ3500s

    @andyZ3500s

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good all around craftsman, but not KZread's shop teacher that's why we watch tubalcain also. Sorry Keith couldn't stop myself from doing it. Just having fun.

  • @TheHillbillyEngineer
    @TheHillbillyEngineer5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome job! Learning from a master is so good to see today.

  • @TraditionalToolworks
    @TraditionalToolworks5 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you passing along your information to someone new to machining, nothing like hands-on. Getting to the point where the schools don't teach much, and that goes for most colleges these days. Great opportunity for Tim and cutting an acme thread is a good skill to have when repairing machines/tools.👍

  • @farmalltomf
    @farmalltomf5 жыл бұрын

    Keith, great video. It's all about sharing what we know. You were 100% spot on, mistakes happen, and if you learn from them, they transform from a mistake to an investment! One of your better videos!

  • @mikeysgarage3697
    @mikeysgarage36975 жыл бұрын

    Bloomin heck! Someone really wasn't paying attention to do that kind of damage, I'm actually impressed that the drill did that.

  • @Dwarfracer88

    @Dwarfracer88

    5 жыл бұрын

    The kid that did that must have been hanging off of the drill press quill handle with both feet off of the ground!

  • @mikeysgarage3697

    @mikeysgarage3697

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Dwarfracer88 Ha ha!

  • @PeterWMeek
    @PeterWMeek5 жыл бұрын

    Tim, the big lesson you can derive from this is "You can always cut a little more metal off. Putting it back - not so easy." Congrats on your first single-point threading.

  • @beccabeth2
    @beccabeth25 жыл бұрын

    Good to see this it makes a fantastic channel even better thanks Mr. Rucker

  • @fiorevitola880
    @fiorevitola8805 жыл бұрын

    Keith; It was nice seeing you take a young man under your direction to teach him the trade, I'm sure it's going to last him a lifetime. Good for you.

  • @RB-yq7qv
    @RB-yq7qv5 жыл бұрын

    wonderful to see knowledge being pass on the young. waiting to see more projects from you with other young men and girls

  • @MetrologyEngineer
    @MetrologyEngineer3 жыл бұрын

    22:55 I bet I'm not the only one who was thankful to have realized the old one was left-hand-thread at that point...

  • @dananelson479
    @dananelson4795 жыл бұрын

    Perfect no, functional yes. Good job guys. Learned on a monarch in high school. Left hand threads can be tricky. After you've cranked off that lug nut. You're a good teacher Keith, thanks for sharing.

  • @johnwarkentinnikiskialaska8364
    @johnwarkentinnikiskialaska83643 жыл бұрын

    Good job guys 👍

  • @richardreynolds9389
    @richardreynolds93895 жыл бұрын

    Hope he can work/learn with you again. I learn something every time I watch one of your videos.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-45605 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU...for sharing. Nice job.

  • @andyZ3500s
    @andyZ3500s5 жыл бұрын

    That was cool Keith. Such a good experience forTim. Tim we all started out not knowing anything you did just fine.The good craftsmen learn from their mistakes. Remember righty tighty, lefty losey sometimes doesn't work.🙂

  • @LouAdzima
    @LouAdzima5 жыл бұрын

    Great Video, nice of you to share your knowledge in training someone.

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon48465 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done, gentlemen. It's a great plan to allow Tim to learn as you make the part. It seemed that your first cut was right hand instead of left hand threads. Glad you caught it quickly.

  • @ron827
    @ron8275 жыл бұрын

    Left hand thread may explain why the collar would not thread off when treated as a right thread. :-) Mistakes are learning opportunities which build experience. We all know hobbyist machining is much more prone to mistakes than professional machining everyday. I have found not only do my machines tend to rust between occasional use but I do too.

  • @safefix

    @safefix

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Bit of brain-fade Mr. Bozo moment there. He started off hitting the punch in the correct direction for a left-hand thread (nut turning clockwise viewed from the camera angle) but then unaccountably used the drift to lock the collar against the casting while trying to turn the shaft clockwise (effectively the nut turning anticlockwise this time).

  • @Blackcountrysteam
    @Blackcountrysteam5 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see the laathe in action and even nicer seeing you let Tim get involved, and like you say ok he went a little deep but rekon he'll not make the same mistake again !

  • @breakingtoast2255
    @breakingtoast22555 жыл бұрын

    good job I love thread cutting

  • @stxrynn
    @stxrynn5 жыл бұрын

    Well done!! If that's the worst thing that happened that day, then it was a great day. Good deal, Tim. I write things down on the vise with a sharpie. The cheapest paper and pen can help even a strong memory.

  • @shootgp
    @shootgp5 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Awesome to see someone learning the art of manual machining. He did quite well considering how I butchered work while learning, nor did he crash the machine... lol Regarding the threads, he learned it's easier to remove material than replace it. I think that there is a great first lesson.

  • @dougguynn2622
    @dougguynn26225 жыл бұрын

    really enjoyed

  • @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
    @floridaflywheelersantiquee75782 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for teaching. Thanks for sharing

  • @gabewhisen3446
    @gabewhisen34463 жыл бұрын

    Nice shop you got there

  • @peterhansen8216
    @peterhansen82165 жыл бұрын

    Totally do more vids like this. Awesome vid.

  • @michaelwooda9444
    @michaelwooda94443 жыл бұрын

    Some of the best lathes have been sitting for years.i have come accross rusty lathes around a hundred years old and a little time and use they always free up and go back to work.alot of times the ones sitting have less wear than one being used all those years.i like fixing them as much as using them.but my current lathe is being a pain. Bought a grizzly g4016 lathe with the gear box apart.having lots of fun trying to find parts.but at least i can still turn with it while working on it.the last lathe i has was a atlas that i 3d printed the gears and worked great.this one isnt going to be that simple but its coming along.last night i used electralysis to clean the 3 jaw and 4 jaw chucks.and after the rust is gone fron setting for a decade, the tool post and both chucks barely have scratches on them which makes me beleive he broke the gearbox and let it set most of its life.once its fixed it will last a few generations hopefully.like my southbend that is 100 years old.

  • @donaldshulman6771
    @donaldshulman67715 жыл бұрын

    Hey Keith - That was so great to see you helping Tim. You could have been a teacher. Did I hear Tim say that he owns a lathe and it needs needs some work?? Keith, sounds like a future project!!!

  • @andywithers592
    @andywithers5925 жыл бұрын

    Learning by doing. I was nervous for Tim as he engaged his first thread pass. Let's have some more master class videos! Greetings from Switzerland.

  • @roylucas1027
    @roylucas10275 жыл бұрын

    What a great video!

  • @bryanbridges2519
    @bryanbridges25195 жыл бұрын

    Another educational video. You pointed out the threading stop on the cross slide, which is interesting, I thought my Pratt Whitney Model C was the only models that had it. I do wish it was in the condition of your Monarch.

  • @kenny5174
    @kenny51745 жыл бұрын

    Great Video! Wish I had a "Rucker" close when I was first starting!

  • @bobuk5722
    @bobuk57225 жыл бұрын

    Well done you two. It's a bit like learning to drive a car - a stick shift as you would call one. Kudos Keith for leaving in the error in the video. It's enormously helpful to see other peoples learning opportunities. You were filming and teaching at the same time, so hardly suprising. There's some chance now that I might remember to check on my work! One safety point for Tim, have a think about trimming the beard back a bit. It's all too easy to lean over a rotating work piece and - argh! Cheers, BobUK.

  • @yqwgjsg

    @yqwgjsg

    5 жыл бұрын

    You know what you call a stick shift on a car these days? A millennial anti theft device.

  • @matthewmeuleman9872
    @matthewmeuleman98725 жыл бұрын

    whatching this vidio brings back memories of my teacher and me

  • @Edubgreen
    @Edubgreen5 жыл бұрын

    i am jealous. i want to work with Keith. Thanks for sharing

  • @unclespicey42
    @unclespicey425 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid, Thanks for sharing it. One of these days Tim will have his own channel :).

  • @ShevillMathers
    @ShevillMathers5 жыл бұрын

    He has learnt a valuable lesson in his early days, better now than on a precision piece. Good to see the master and apprentice at work, both learned from the project. 👍🇦🇺🔭

  • @johnnytakisawa
    @johnnytakisawa5 жыл бұрын

    I really like that threading stop. That would make things a lot quicker