Mike I don't even own a cap and ball and you make this interesting enough for me to never miss an episode. 👍 Thanks for another excellent show.

@duelist1954

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I’m so sick of KZread and there bs narrative. I hope they know that! Thanks so much for the great content.

No surrender brother

I bought 1/8” I believe brass rod from the hardware store . Remove front sight. Lightly drill with a appropriate bit. Add a little JB weld , install a taller front sight from the brass rod. I have adjusted the rear notch before.

👍 Nice educational video. Thank you. Very glad to hear KZread continues to feel we are all 5 year olds who will misuse horribly dangerous information like changing front sites on a Blackpowder cap & ball revolver from 1851. God bless KZread they certainly give me a warm & fuzzy. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Uberti all the way 100%. In cap & ball and cap revolvers & ball revolver conversions I have only owned Uberti products because I have never been disappointed.

Mike - check the cylinder throat diameters! If any of them are smaller than the bore diameter, that can cause oversize groups with lead bullets in cartridge revolvers, should affect cap n' ball as well...

I swear to God that Mike is the Bob Ross of cap and ball shooting, "The .36 caliber ball wants to find a home on the target and then he wants a friend..."

Its a shame that you have to pacify KZread but I guess that's the world anymore. I'm just glad you are still here!!!

1:13 Harper's Ferry, again.

I have shared with all my friends how you answered my questions brother

I did the same on changing the front sight. I ordered a dovetail jig for the barrel and a new front sight for an 1860 Remington New Army. Filed a dovetail and installed the sight. Took it to the range and did exactly as you show. Took a while, but it’s spot on now. Touched up the sight with cold blue and it looks great.

I have the same pietta with a .45 colt conversion and is a tack driver, lots of fun and a really neat looking gun.

Lovin the come back bro!

I thought you did okay with the Pietta as that short barrel sure makes it tougher to sight-in. I'm glad you mentioned the short arbor on the Uberti! I wanted one but was reluctant to buy because of all the "horror" stories concerning the short arbor. I like the clean barrel looks of Uberti guns without all the writing. I went with the 1861 Navy and love it!

GOD Blessed you and your family brother

Could u use callipers to measure from the top of the new sight to the bottom of the barrel as a measurement instead of counting file strokes??

I see the new ride, from the ol blue f-150 that has been in the background for years 😊

@duelist1954

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. I bought it a year ago, after an HVAC van totaled my old truck on I83...good truck, but I miss Ol' Blue.

I sighted in my 1850 Colt Navy 44's by going to the range with a set of mini files and filing out the rear hammer sight notch. Made them deeper and filed to center the windage side to side until they were dead on at 100 yards, with the bead front sight at the bottom of the notch. No room for mistakes, so go slow and start at 50 yards. But it works. I can nail items as small as a gallon paint can out to 100 yards with a Traditions Colt Navy 44 with a .454 ball and a spent 38 special shell measure of powder.

Good morning from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your adventures and your information

Great episode Mike. That’s my favorite hat!

Mike always a good watch

Nice video Mike. I replaced the front sights with Mauser sights in several of my Navy revolvers. They all shoot POA/POI now.

Nice. I always had to just get used to wear to aim.

Love watching your videos. Always learning something.

In my 36 cap and ball pistols. ( five 36 calaber and Two 44 calaber) they don't like the conical bullets. The 36 calabers, don't have a pointy bullet mold for 44. I get better groups with round ball. Each pistol shoots a tad different spot on the target . I have adjusted the front sight. Shorter and taller. Being that the rear sight is a notch in the hammer. This can be adjusted right to left a tad by opening up the notch one side or the other. Or vertical by cutting a tad deeper. Some times you just have to know where the pistol puts the ball and hold accordingly. With practice you can get rather good accuracy. Surprisingly good in some pistols. I have a matching pair of 36 calaber with consecutive serial numbers. They shoot really well.

Bravo Mike.

Thanks Mike!

Nice work!!!

Nice job, Mike and another great video.

Good video, Mike.

I would think that the much shorter barrel on the Pietta would make for somewhat wider groups. Love your videos Mike. It will be nice to see you at Duelist's Den again.

@robertpresley6414

8 ай бұрын

I have a Pietta Navy that I purchased at the pawn shop several months ago. Fortunately, it shoots really well. Just a little bit high but no where near as they usually do. On the bottom of the barrel it's stamped 2012. Maybe 2012 was a good year for Piettas.

As allways: time Well spent!!! Thank you for your videos!!!!

Mike, I watched the full version on Rumble. Thank you! I do wish you'd mentioned how to remove the barleycorn, and how to fix the short arbor. Thank you for the video!

Great video Mike! Love your hat 😀

Hopin' for good news.

Great video Mike. Both are beautiful guns. Thanks for sharing and all your hard work and time Sir.

great video Mike. Good working up the groups. I love your videos. Good luck with your den! Doc

Wonderful video keep up good work, fun watch.

Chamber should be slightly bigger than the lands in the barrel and the cone should be 11 degrees.

Good Video

I watched on Rumble to learn. It is unlikely I'll ever take on such a project but now I know.

Great video! Best of luck with your land!

I could almost smell the smoke. Great video. Thanks, Mike.

Good morning 😃

Nice video! As has allready been suggested (unless you’ve allready done this) slug the bore and measure groove to groove diameter, then measure chambers. If chambermouths are smaller than bore groove diameter, then you’ll get lousy accuracy, PLUS you’ll get a lot of blowby since the bullet/ball does not ”seal” the bore, nor will the bullet be able to ”scrape” the residue from the previous shot off of the grooves. Thus; excessive fouling. If the bore isn’t polished enough, that might contribute even more, but generally, lack of polishing shouldn’t result in more fouling (it might look worse though) if the bullet is correctly sized by the chambers, but it does make it harder to get the bore clean.

That was fascinating to watch. (I watched both). Thank you. Mind you, makes me appreciate a laser boresighter and red dot all the more.

Thanks for the video, I sure like your hat.

I enjoy your videos my friend and I shared your videos with my friends

@duelist1954

8 ай бұрын

Hi Earl!

@earlshaner4441

8 ай бұрын

Hi my friend from another mother

I shortened a 8" barrel to 3", in the process I had to cut the groove for the front sight and left it a little high. I cut the groove with a Dremel tool and stacked the thin cutting discs together and got a pretty good fit. I added a touch of solder to make sure it doesn't move. I took it to the pistol range and it is dead on at 10 yards, 4 " groups.

Thanks Mike for another no bull video. I know I can always count on you to give me the real unbiased truth.

That’s crazy about KZread n sights. Didn’t know that

Kinda reminds me of that Lizzy Borden poem. Mike gave one gun 40 strokes and when he had it on he gave the other 41.😂

I love all of your shows. I am disabled and one of my arms and you told me what to get rifle wise. I got A. 50 caliber Rifle with a 23 inch barrel.. I am going to test it out today because dear season for muzzle letters opens saturday. Thank you for your help.

Looking forward to seeing how much you can tighten the Pietta’s groups.

Hi Mike; check the muzzle, mine was wiped by the polisher and had to redo it.

Yeah, I did a similar thing to my 1895 8x56r straight pull so my slower cast boolits hit the gong at 100, I modified an old Mauser sight

Mike, the Piettas you got were made after lunch, LOL. I'm watching on KZread and Rumble.

Excellent job on replacing the front sight! What are the dimensions of the blade after you trimmed it? Specifically the length between the top front of dovetail to front of blade and the rear of blade to top rear of dovetail. I know that the height of the blade will be adjusted accordingly as I sight it in with a file. I just ordered the nickel/silver sight that you previously recommended from Track. The sight was pretty tarnished when I received it, but I was able to get it shined up with some baking soda paste. My gunsmith can fortunately help me out with cutting the dovetail.

I expect you know this. I've been shooting cap and ball revolvers since 1976 when I got my first one. A Colt 1860 Army by Lyman. Still have it. And when I started shooting. Round ball was all you could get. So I kept adjusting my powder charge to the point where just a bit of smoke comes out the muzzle, and there is a great deal less fouling. I started with a 30 grain charge, but took that down to a 25 grain charge. and the fouling was not nearly so bad. So with that short barreled 1851 you might want to adjust the powder charge down a tad. That is the joy of Black Powder Firearms. Any ways, stay safe and keep up the good fight.

I never thought of using file strokes. I take a scribe and make a mark like about 1/64th at a time. I have an 1851 spare barrel and found that the front sight is threaded.... real fine and real shallow.... I was thinking of using 3/16th brass rod and turning down the threaded part to fit. then I could file down the sides and face to get a little better sight picture and still look somewhat original.

I had a 36 cal with the 7 1/2 barrel. I shop 2 1/2 inch groups at 30 yard and never saw the sights. I shoot instinctively and fast draw .

Great video, as always! Will you do a video on correcting for windage by filing the rear sight? Watched the KZread version.

I wonder if the piettas chambers are smaller then the bore. Making the bullet loose in the barrel.

@ToreDL87

8 ай бұрын

I hadn't considered that, could honing them up a bit solve that issue?

@prophy4736

8 ай бұрын

pietta chambers are .444 and the barrel .440

@snappers_antique_firearms

8 ай бұрын

@ToreDL87 yeah that's Exactly how you fix that problem. When I get a revolver and want to make it more accurate I ream the chambers to .455 . I also cone shape the front of the chamber so it Swages the bullet instead of cutting a ring. Doing this really makes a big difference in Accuracy.

@snappers_antique_firearms

8 ай бұрын

@prophy4736 that is what its supposed to be, but that doesn't mean it is. When a reamer wears out it cuts smaller and makes the ball smaller then the bore. I see it all the time.

I feel like I need a file strokes to mm conversion chart. I always do some preliminary math to guide sight changes. A little bit of trigonometry goes a long way. My Navy repo (Pietta) has a pin type sight, and it's remarkably not all that far off in approx. 15 yard use. Maybe a half inch to kentucky. Hold that value low. Ned Pepper stays away from my place now.... The Pietta you have there, effectively appear to be a stubbie. I wouldn't expect similar performance from those two arms. There's also a man holding each of those two pistols. 😉

I have an old Euroarms Remington Army that has chamfered cylinders. It’s the only one I’ve seen with that feature in all my years of shooting bp revolvers. The front sight is also much lower than the Uberti I have, and it pretty much shoots on point. I’m curious if anyone else has noticed this on the Euroarms guns from the 1970s.

I got to say when I champerd my cylinder on my 51 pietta it made it harder to load conicals instead of cutting a ring the witch was very difficult to shove in but that pieta is much more accurate than most of my ubertis

What about the notch? Deeper notch?

@duelist1954

8 ай бұрын

I hit it with a Dremel cut off wheel to deepen the notch just a little. On some guns I don't bother.

its simple put a drop of jb weld on your front sight bead problem solved. i did this as soon as i fired high a few times. make the front sight taller and you will be forced to aim lower and yes you can file the metal weld you added to make it exact. make sure you score the front sight before applying the jb weld.

There tossing em together, fast to meet demand

I guess I missed it but can you say what distance your targets were at for the sighting Loved the video DJ

Chambers are likely too small. Ream to 0.375. Undersized balls won't seal the gasses and you'll get more fouling.

Maybe I'm confused, but this vid still contained clips of you filing down the sights...

Well done (×2)!

Nice! Definitely polish the barrel on the 4". Have you tried round ball? It seems that in more of the videos I've been watching, round ball shoots better.

AWSOME VIDIO SIR I HAVE A LITTLE BEAUTY JUST LIKE YOURS HAVENT SHOTT IT YET GIVES ME OME IDEAS NOW THANK YOU SIR

You load all six, my lord

Great work. Also, how do you keep your beard so neat?

Great video!! Where can I get the cartridges?? Or materials to me my own???

I’ll go to rumble

kinda funny tho.. I never move the sights on my adjustable sight guns. I only have a few real pet loads for any caliber so once I get the most used load sighted in I never touch em again with fixed sights the windage can be filed a bit and if the gun shoots low I can file the front sight. shooting high is a problem tho

also, I went to rumble to see how you made the gun shoot to point of aim, and there is only 1 video for the 1851, and it is of your Robert E. Lee commemorative pistol, of it's first shots.

Back in the "day" did people change the sights to shoot more POA? Or did they just learn to use Kentucky windage? By people, I'm thinking more along the civilian line. I'm sure the military had to use what was issued.

@duelist1954

8 ай бұрын

Most people had one gun and learned where to hold it. But serious gunmen usually tweaked their sights.

I know uberti crowns their barrels, and pietta didnt in the past. Ive not bought a pietta in a long time, so I dont know if they do now.

Interesting videos. I have a Pietta 1860 Army 44 that functions well but I'd like to get a capper and nipple wrench and a spare cylinder and .454 lead balls and whatever else I can think of. And maybe even a 36 caliber cap and ball revolver. I live in western PA. Are there stores that you know of that normally stock these things? Or websites that have them. I'm retired and can travel to the stores or order from them online or over the phone. Keep making the great videos.

@duelist1954

8 ай бұрын

Cabela’s, Midway USA, Dixie, Gun Works, Cimarron Fire Arms, Taylor’s& Co, and a host of others.

Have you considered using a file on the rear sight to open it up a bit for easier sighting? It would make it have a more square, target, sight picture.

@duelist1954

8 ай бұрын

Yup. I should have mentioned it. Sorry.

I wish KZread had at least a tiny amount of logic in it's rules and how they are applied.

Did you have a caliper to give us the front site height?

OK I’m gonna have to start a rumble channel. Some of my videos do good, but then every once in a while, I don’t know if I’m saying the wrong thing, but no one will see them on my black powder channel.

It appeared to me that the short barrel Pietta was slightly behind the front of the rest by various distances. Is it possible that the padding on the gun rest slightly deflected the bullet via air resistance?

can we get a link to what exact sight you used at Track of the Wolf? There are a bunch there.

👌👌👍👍

Mike. Where are you finding the RWS Caps ?They are my favorite buy I haven't been able to find them in over a year and a half .

Most, if not all my c & ball revolvers hit high. The only solution is to install a taller front sight. I have a nos taller sight for the old army, but it will require someone other than myself to drill a hold through it.

@prophy4736

8 ай бұрын

bro put a drop of jb weld on your front sight to make it taller then file it to the right size. simple. no special people needed.

do the springs break easy in these 1851s?

What are the dia.'s of the two guns chambers? My buddies Pietta 44 had really really really tight chambers.... you couldn't load the gun using the rammer.

I have several open top colts 36..I recently bought a 38 special in a open top converted..my question is my 38 special has a 3 inch barrel..can I safely interchange 1 of my 7 1/2 barrels to it just for the shit and giggles

Recrown everything

What would you recommend more for the average Joe? Cutting the rear sight notch deeper, or replacing the front sight like you did?

@drewschumann1

8 ай бұрын

Yes. You will probably want to do both. Cutting the rear sight notch deeper has the additional benefit of opening it up.

Would you mind adding the link to Rumble? I cannot locate. Thank you

Short arber? Burnish the cylinder? You SOUND like you've done it for 40 years, but when you use terms, could you please do a quick "aside"?