Your videos are the reason I didn’t pay a tech $10,000 install a new unit in my house. I had to buy my evaporator and condenser off ebay. No store would sell them to me.

The top of my neighbor’s plenum popped off just like the one in this video. The A/C was still under warranty so I just duct taped it and told my neighbor to call the A/C company to come fix it properly. My neighbor was 83 years old so I didn’t want her to suffer in the heat. For some reason, the A/C guys in Houston love duct board.

@throttlebottle5906

4 жыл бұрын

could always toss plumbing strap all the all the wya over and fasten to the metal cabinet underneath it all, if the tape did let go it would stay down and leak way less

Well at least you had a cool work space.

That was a very sad situation! It looked rushed at all stages!

Duct board was NOT intended to be used as a means of duct work. Its original intention was to insulate metal duct work. Here are a few reasons why it should not be used. 1.) It is a porous material that collects moisture and will mold (even the so called black lined). 2.) As said in the video. The fiberglass will be blowing all thru the house due to a consistent incorrect installation ( as seen in the video the duct sealant is NEVER used on seams or inside on raw edges). 3.) It slows down airflow again because it is porous. All in all it is a bad product for health. But hey what counts is saving money to people.

Great video. Looks like my attic when I bought my home, an octopus. What do you prefer to use as a plenum if not fiberglass duct board?

Good thing they have inspections for this

I live in mauldin and do heating and air and these new construction guys in this area are for the most part semi pros at best

As a former RNC installer, this sort of thing is beyond me. Really makes me appreciate just how professional my company was that we never had issues like this.

how many years do you say till the bottom rots plum out of the furnace being in the bottom of that tray

Nice find Ted!!

Have you used any Mastic Tape yet Ted ? I bought a roll a few weeks ago and man it is some very sticky stuff that will not come loose. I will never use regular metal tape again and never use Duct Board as well lol. I have a small Duct shop and make some custom ducts. Peace Man \m/\m/......

Phil Swift says all you needed was Flex Tape.

Did you happen to run across that big rat I noticed the trip when you first went into that cool attic.

I have seen duct board trunk lines before.

Does the city of Greenville have building inspectors? That’s just a big WOW! Could give that footage to the home owner for legal recourse against the home builder or the AC installers.

Best video ever!!!

Where the heck are the building inspectors??? Never would have gotten away with that in the towns I worked in. Very good fix in an otherwise crappy installation. Thanks for the video.

@FlyEaglesFly19111

4 жыл бұрын

Building inspectors are not responsible for this in residential. If a local jurisdiction has it's own inspector than it would have been inspected. Also that is if they are physically fit to get around to be able to inspect it.

New meaning to (Pop-A-Top)!! Lol good attic ventilation! Lol

Nice job again like always

I had a company called First Class put in new a/c and they left a 2-3” gap at the bottom of a/c and plenum and noticed in my crawl space after u trap clogged and crawl space was 60 degrees and very damp. I don’t know how to fix because they refuse to even respond to me.

Sad workmanship.

One thing about ductboard, it is much easier to work with and not worry about small cuts on your hands from good ol fashioned hardworking, does also does make the system quieter, but that is it, it falls apart within a few years, and leaks badly. But great for a return service call.. I have a metal plenty, only bad about it is it sweats like crazy, especially when I crack the tstat to 60. Lol

@DW-vl2wi

4 жыл бұрын

Mastic over the metal or cover with otherwise proper insulation, no problem.

@FlyEaglesFly19111

4 жыл бұрын

Do a proper install on metal and no issues. When you run a system ALL day cause it's at 60 and the space will not satisfy ALL ductwork will sweat.

Don’t they have inspectors in your area

You would hate my house! It was built in 1906 our cold air return vents are basically this duct board taped on the bottom side of the wooden joists with holes cut in the floor above for a vent. My furnace filters are always gross and I bet it’s because I’m pulling air from stupid places.

Doesnt anybody inspect new construction down there. Back when I was building that would have been a big RED TAG, I would never call back hacks that do that kind of work.

King of cobble pots.

Hmmm, here in south Tx we pretty much do only ductboard plenum’s. I think I’ve only used flex duct once as a plenum.

Looked like a Monet when you got done Ted.

@sknight0391

4 жыл бұрын

If he signed and numbered it, it might be worth something someday 😎👍

any install that uses duct board as duct is a second class install,

The lowest bidder strikes again.

What a messed up installation... Wow!

Diy they dont make reducers in 30 guage....28 min which is fine...

I did nothing but new homes when I first got in the game n the ppl I worked with n myself never let a job look like this .. I see this now in my transition to learning to become a tech n its ridiculous just get it done cheap n fast n u get this .. awful

I got my first estimate for replacement HVAC system last week. American Standard combo reasonably priced! Trane companies coming this week to give some more. Man I wish you were here, I'd contract with you in a flash. Hope Dorian doesn't affect you all. Brother in Beaufort may be coming to Ky for a visit. I'm a Ted also!

hey, guess they went with the guy that was just 500 dollars cheaper. no pride

We see 1/2 ass new construction guys done here as well.. amazing how this shit passes inspection

Lowest bidder work...you get what you pay for every time. The zoning system was hysterical to be honest. Why would you do that on a simple residential system? What a joke. The kind of stuff you run into on the regular.

1 unit not ok in that climate? suppose with 2 you get a backup. nice pookie job.

@5454Alpha

4 жыл бұрын

I imagine with the sort of heat that they endure over as long as they endure it, having two systems would make sense on the efficiency front as well as the comfort front. Out in the colder parts of the inland northwest, we could absolutely get away with one system zones by a damper system, but out there I imagine the load would be to much.

I always like duct board plenums because they reduce the noise in the return.

@DW-vl2wi

4 жыл бұрын

They also reduce airflow >_>

Nothing but good old metal foil tape will stick to duct board and keep it together for the long haul.

@FlyEaglesFly19111

4 жыл бұрын

Um no.. that's what FSK is for. Read your metal tape. There are different temperature applications for it

Why wouldn't a zone system work on a single stage? From what I've learned is you just need a bypass for the extra air when some dampers are closed.

@zack9912000

3 жыл бұрын

waste of money, if you have a mult stage unit sure, yet a single stage unit its a complete waste of time

Dam!

I hate duct board especially in attics. Stuff gets so brittle and just crumbles. Makes a real mess.

That is beyond unacceptable. Unfortunately with the cookie cutter houses is the builders are fly by night companies that have no pride in their work.

@martindeloach

4 жыл бұрын

I hate cookie cutter homes/construction work but unfortunately that is all we get now days, no true relativity in building anymore. Sad.

I am sure the same engineer that said flexiduct is acceptable is the same arse hat that said duct board is an acceptable material for plenums and ductwork

@FlyEaglesFly19111

4 жыл бұрын

Well flex duct is acceptable. In no more than 6-8' to help absorb airflow noise. If stretched out properly it works as intended

Ductboard was invented because someone wanted to invent something to make a few million. People don't understand that about new products. Two thirds of new products are on the market not due to need for the product , but it's like shark tank. Someone's trying to make a retirement they can live in the bahamas off of. That's fine. But trades need to catch it. Ductboard shoulda never been incorporated into hvac. Idiots don't know the difference between incorporating something new and worthwhile, or tossing aside new garbage products. Just because some jerkoff puts it in the market, doesn't mean it's good. It means a few guys think they can make a million dollars off it. Wtf is wrong with metal ? Do guys really wanna get rid of those metal techs that bad? Really? It comes from jerkoff see vice techs starting a business and there ain't enough profit to use good metal work. There ain't enough profit. A ductboard tech is cheaper. Ductboard is cheaper. You can still charge an arm.amd a leg, but other companies won't ruin their name with ductboard and such. So the people say " marvelous, you're three thousand dollars cheaper , I don't care, three thousand dollars cheaper ". Yes. They are. Sure are. But you're gonna pay to have the entire thing reinstalled if you stay there. So it's gonna cost ya alot more than that three grand. If ya ain't got the damned money , have someone bring ya the pipe and duct and drop it off. It isn't hard to cut holes or squares and tap in takeoffs and duct tape pipe. Then they can come back and tie the unit in with fittings. I'd rather tell the damned customer " look, ifbya ain't got the money, this is what ya do , I'll bring you the duct and insulation and tell you how to do it. It isn't rocket science. Cut rectangles in the floor and rectangles in th ceiling. It's like leggos how to tie it together. Do all that and I'll come tie the unit in for ya. I'd rather convince a customer to do that before I install ductboard and rip someone off. I tell ya what. Hvac fuckers did a good job ousting the manual d and metal guys. Hvac used to BEGIN with the old metal layout guys. Every place had a little shop and brake and lockformer machines. Now, it costs a school graduate too much money to do that, and they wanna act like they know more than the old school metal guys. I'll say, you won't ever beat a classic furnace fitting transitioning to a six inch throat rounded split or y. That six inch throat was used because of the manual d. Jesus. That book has been trashed. I know the issue though. Nobody wants to work for pennies, and there ain't enough money off little jobs to support many high salaries. It's a shame the pride factor has been removed from hvac. I'm not saying this guy, I don't know him at all. I'm just saying this because of that ductboard.

Don’t you wish it was legal to take a hammer to contractors that do work like that? And home builders that don’t know how to inspect.

I hate to say and see flexible ductings and duct boards used hvac systems. Our company never ever use these materials ever, it’s a piece of junk!!!!!! You should have tear it all out!!!!!!!! Lowest bidders win in this case😩😩😩😩😩😩😭😭😭😭😭

Duct board. Kinda junk

I'm not sticking up for the people that did this instillation. No doubt it is a very poor job! However, the real fault lies with the builder. Builders budget right down to the last penny and will not allow any of their contractors the ability to do a decent job! Which of course is why I have never worked for builders. It's very simple "You get what you pay for"! There will always be somebody willing to do the job, no matter how poor it has to be to meet the price point. The real problem is that the buyers don't know this. Given the option, they might be willing to pay the small amount necessary to get something better?

Ductboard should be banned. Glorified cardboard

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Best video ever!!!