For anyone interested in scaling figures: if you scale epic up by 186% (6mm to 11.2mm) or regular 40k to 40% (28mm to 11.2mm), you'll end up with "metric" minis. The 11mm size is based on converting imperial to metric (28mm * (10/25) = 11.2mm); what this means is that with 11.2mm minis you can play standard 28mm games using metric instead of imperial measurements on smaller coffee table sized boards, or play large size games on full sized tables using standard imperial measurements without the game feeling cluttered by overly large models that can't fit around terrain. It's basically the perfect intermediary scale.

@freaketchic

2 жыл бұрын

Very useful comment, sir. Very appreciated.

@proven22x52

2 жыл бұрын

Or about 40% of a standard scale warhammer model, making ranges of 1 inch equal to 1 centimeter.

@primafacie5029

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@ScooterinAB

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that as well. I'm just worse at math than you are. :P

@gastonslashx

Жыл бұрын

Just saw this and that is awesome, thank you sir, will do.

This is one of the reasons that 3d printers are such a massive boon for wargamers and table-top gamers in general. The fact that you don't have to be constrained to the scale gaming minis come in if you have limited space opens up the hobby to a lot more people. Sure, the printer itself does take up space, but your average beginner resin printer (such as an Elegoo Mars) has a much smaller footprint than the cases you would need to store a typical 40K army. And once the initial investment in the printer is paid, it's a far more economic way to get into a miniature game. The only real drawback is the time it takes to print the minis, but if you're painting your minis in batches rather than all at once, you'll likely be painting one set while another is printing anyway. And it's relatively easy to adjust your scale to whatever you want. All STL files can be scaled to what you need in your slicer program before printing, just be sure to keep note of how much you scale a mini by, so you can make sure everything matches up. Honestly, the hardest part would be deciding what scale to convert the rules to. Will you just cut the scale in half and divide all the distances by two? Or convert inches to centimeters and make everything a third of the size? It really depends on how small you want to go, and how small your printer will still be able to print at. Personally, I feel converting inches to centimeters is a good place to start, since you can scale down your models to 33% easy enough, and most tailor's measuring tapes (which are perfect for wargames) have both inches and centimeters already.

As a historical gamer, it's great seeing smaller scales make inroads into sci-fi and fantasy. Love it

@TedSoper88

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite part of FoW was the 15mm scale, feels very epic and fun

@docmunoz9545

2 жыл бұрын

Starting playing 15mm historical (ADLG) a couple of years ago and really enjoy the scale, plus 120x180mm is all the space you need for full 200-300pt games.

@Suiberis

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it makes so much more sense for TTRPGs. Being able to create sprawling cities or environments in 10 or 15mm and populating it with civilians or swarms of enemies on a coffee table rather than a 6x4 makes so much more sense for the layman gamer or GM who wants to tell a story on a smaller space and budget.

@olympiangamers7007

Жыл бұрын

Shame that it had to be tied to the GW IP, when there’s loads of independent manufacturers for sci-fi in 6,10 and 15mm

@darekdariusz8910

Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to download 3d printing materials for 15mm historical models (especially ancient and medieval) somewhere?

Love it, the armies and terrain is smashing guys. For someone who doesn’t have much space, this is a brilliant way to play.

Tiny Warhammer is the best way to play Warhammer in my opinion. I have been printing and playing both Warhammer Fantasy and 40k in 15mm scale ever since I was inspired to do so after watching your first 'Make Warhammer Tiny' video, it's great. I would love to see you do even more of these Tiny Warhammer videos.

@control745

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome to hear. Do you convert the 6x4 table down to 3x2? And do you go from inches to centimeters? I'm sure that's not a perfect 1 to 1 ratio but seems like that's what most people do and it works

@danielmorgan5949

2 жыл бұрын

@@control745 Yes, I play on a 3x2 table. I convert inches to centimetres for measuring. The other thing that I do is use flame and blast templates that are printed to be half the size of regular templates.

@darekdariusz8910

Жыл бұрын

Wher can I find 3d files?

@OWiseOwl

Жыл бұрын

My group has started doing this too! We play on 3x2 and in cm as well. It works perfectly.

@OWiseOwl

Жыл бұрын

@@darekdariusz8910 There are a few sculptors on Patreon that we use. Most of our models are actually Warmaster models designed by ForestDragon, scaled up 125% to fit on 10mm bases. They come presupported and print perfectly for Tiny Warhammer.

Those tiny space marines look so damn cute lol, and getting an army done in a day has got to be satisfying.

"Ah, the sponsored segment. I wonder which modelling products company it is?" *Watches Luke cooking for several minutes in quiet disbelief* I was looking at Stroganoff's Battlestrider model this week, it's a glorious model. I note they recommended 133% scaling to get from Epic to Adeptus Titanicus scale.

@colinmorrison5119

Жыл бұрын

@@GeekGamingScenics it seemed like longer... Mind you, given the average gamer's...er... silhouette (mine included), a few healthy eating tips wouldn't go amiss.

I'm not one for giving professionals unsollicited advice, but DEFINITELY more puppy shots in the future.

@Seelenschmiede

2 жыл бұрын

Word!

I love it. This is my new obsession after years of playing traditional 40k/fantasy. So accessible and can play on any kitchen table

Guy's guest spots really cracked me up 😂😂😂 Those 12mm Space Marines are the absolute canem testiculorum 😍😍😍😍 4:01 The Roadies tucking in to their Full English. The Happy Luke Dance at the end is the icing on an excellent cake.

@samsowden

2 жыл бұрын

the bollocks' dog?

Scrabble tiles as floor tiles is pretty clever

Love the 15mm scale. I use the Forest Dragon warmaster 3d files and print them at 150%. This makes great 15mm fantasy armies. For me 15 mm is perfect just enough detail not to big not to small.

@TedSoper88

2 жыл бұрын

Same, FD minis are great and scale well.

@darekdariusz8910

Жыл бұрын

Where can I find this 3d files?

@Darkwood2027

Жыл бұрын

@@darekdariusz8910 Forest Dragon

@CardMagicish

Жыл бұрын

Same dude 🤣

Man, love this. Hope you continue this series - lots of us dislike that wargaming takes so much space and this is just about the perfect format.

I love that it just...sits on the wall there. You wouldnt even know, and its a friggin warhammer poster too! :D really great choices all around.

Our local club does this alot, a big thing they do is play the current rules of 40k but change all ranges to CM and works perfectly

@dinkledord7026

Жыл бұрын

hell yea dude

Absolutely love how you fit a entire game board into a picture frame. There is no reason to have to have some monstrous game table large scale destruction in the grim dark universe

@ScooterinAB

2 жыл бұрын

I really like that as well. It's semi-rigid, contained, and more easily stored than a full table. I just lost my play space and have been thinking about making a table myself, but I live in a small space and can't have something that large laying around.

Wholeheartedly agree - smaller game footprints make this hobby far more accessible. Wish I'd discovered the joys of 15mm earlier; just treat centimetres as inches and suddenly you can pack multiple boards into a suitcase. And STILL have space for clothes! I've now got an old art box with two boards set up inside, and am working in a set of 36 10x10cm modular tiles which can pack into a small briefcase. That's three different biomes fitting into the space of four 28mm buildings. Can't see myself going back

@ScooterinAB

2 жыл бұрын

Good point on accessibility. Outside of cost, it's far easier for someone to get into something they can put away on a shelf or in a closet. 40k has gotten physically larger (scale creep) and larger in scale itself (larger armies, larger warmachines, etc). It's intimidating and all of those larger size and number of models take up more and more space. I live in a small place, and having an option like this means it's easier for me to consider about than having to make a giant table and shelving beyond shelving for my models.

@idlehobbying

2 жыл бұрын

@@ScooterinAB Agreed, it's wonderful having stuff that can fit entirely into a regular cupboard! Or even a shoebox. When I go holidaying, my collection of 70ish minis for skirmish campaigning can fit safely packed into three screws and bolts storage compartments. Smaller scales mean terrain doesn't have to be so exquisitely detailed, so can be less intimidating to make. There's more scope for indicative scenery without having to match the larger, more intricate kits which have become the norm.

One of your best videos so far for me. You content is getting smarter and more practical with time!

Love this a lot, and specially the table on the back of a picture was sheer genius

Love this! Really like the idea of doing this as a way of trying out new games!

God: How do you want your earlobes? Lucas: Like a blown out roastie! God: I got you fam.

Spraying and dremelling that board on the glass garden table hurt me inside, but apart from that, great episode!! Love it!

This is fantastic! I love the size of the tanks and knights. Something about them being the size of a matchbox car is just so appealing. The only thing missing from the set are tiny dice.

@LordVilmore

Жыл бұрын

You can get 50 8mm dice from Ali like I did

Absolutely brill mate, love it! This is exactly what I've always been about with this hobby - making it your own. Your models, your gaming table, your rules. The fact you made it all so it just 'folds away' into your living room is completely genius. Play on Sir!

This video is awesome and the end results are top notch. Great work.

I absolutely love this and the economical use of space this scale offers in addition to the reduced painting load.

This is brilliant, and looks like great sizeable fun!

Those letter pieces from the works are a great idea for tiles, looks fantastic!

I really like this scale at first I thought you were doing epic size but was surprised how good this scale is 👍👍👍

Seriously one of the most interesting videos on hobby-tube in a while.

Another great job! Good work fella!

This is straight up lovely. The terrain looks really nice with the turquoise and the browns/yellows, really different from the greys we often see

Really cool idea, size does really impact accessibility and travel options.

This sort of miniaturization is fantastic looking. It's just so cute and neat. Great work there!

Way back around White Dwarf 213 to 220 era (late 1990's) there was an article/letter published where 2 people had magnetized their epic models and created a small scale travel board and game to play 40k on a tiny epic scale when on long road trips. This very much reminds me of that, barring the magnetized board and models. The flip side of your approach is to collect squads of the large scale plastic action figure space marines and play on very large scaled playing areas (backyards have a wealth of natural terrain) but that aside, I love how you've got this mix of 3D printed models and GW models mixed in - that quiet equal ground between 3D printing everything and enjoying existing models without just ripping them off completely.

Love you and your partner's collaborations together! Great boards!

Having your gaming board double as a poster on the wall was the cherry on this cake for me. Nicely done!

Absolutely cool. Love to see stuff like this! 👍🏼

That is amazing, it looks great and it stows away conveniently. Pure genius.

My face dropped when I saw the board hang up on the wall!!! genius!

Ah this was excellent and brings back memories, a friend and I used to wage a huge 40k Epic warfront on wallpaper folding tables in a local village hall over two days. Alas the figures are currently residing in the loft perhaps this will prompt a dining table battle with my daughter as a commander.

Brilliant mate! Love it

Brilliant. Love it. I've been working on a similar idea. And I love the picture frame board

This is the most excited I've been about a project in forever. Adeptus was my first 40K experience way back in 1989, and I've been looking for that feeling ever since without the tedious little Epic figures or the gigantic amount of floor space. Watching this made me feel like I was 15 again.

I am absolutely on your side! Hope to see more content from you on that scale... I loved Dropzone Commander back in the good old days. And with 3D printing you can easily convert nearly everything into a smaller size!

Nice idea. So much more accessible than standard 40k. the latest 40k apocalypse rules work really well on a smaller scale if you want something in between standard 40k and Epic in terms of army sizes.

I think this is fantastic and exactly what I'm looking for, I definitely want to do something like this, would love to see more videos like this too!

Great video ! Absolutely love what you did 🤘🏻

Mate love your videos and products. As a veteran it helps a lot with my mental health and modelling too. Keep the great work going

Absolutely love it. Totally sold. Huge fan. I echo your comments to the letter and been unsure how to phrase it until I found your video.

Best scale ever ;) you nailed it with the conclusion

Great idea! I've just started printing epic models, but think I might need to move house soon and get rid of a lot of gaming stuff. Smaller scales will be my way forward too!

ok now that is COOL!!! Love the tiny tanks and marines. One of the cool ideas from this is that you don't have to paint forever and edge highlight like a maniac - you can knock them out and get gaming in no time! Great concept guys! :):)

Absolutely love this. Great job on this video. Another reason to get a resin printer.

Nice video. The board as hangable artwork is really clever.

AKA "Tap Hammer". Luke I fucken love your philosophy about it fitting into your life when you want it the way you want it - I mean of course right!

Laughed out loud at the midwinter minis titan call out

Way better than 28 / 30mm. You did it all so incredibly well - 10/10

So freaking glad I found you guys.

G'day Luke! MAAAATE. This is awesoome! I can imagine something like this for a Travel Kill Team using magnets to stick them to the gameboard (being an A4 magnetic sheet) . Love it! Well done, mate!

amazing work guys!

I love the idea of printing out scaled down 40K/30K basically makes it a transportable board game

I think the whole thing is brilliant! The finishing touch was the two sided gaming board/poster--WoW!!

This is an amazing idea. I love coffee table scale games and it makes me want to get a 3D printer, not sure my wife would approve haha. Also, loving the zoom functionality 🤣

I used to be into the big games on big tables but these days I am preferring small games on small tables just like yourself. This is a good idea

This is a great idea. Play your game the way you want. Thank you for the content

That's an awesome and inspirational project guys. I must admit, I'm pretty tempted by scaled down Warhammer at the moment. Heck I'm still half tempted by Epic too. I've had a load of old Epic miniatures lying around and thought I could scratch both the itch for small scale and Horus Heresy at the same time. Thanks for another fun video, carry on and take care ;)

Great work, I am forever shrinking miniatures down to 15mm or even 6mm , fits nicely on the kitchen table

I did the same thing with a spaceship game, I love playing games on a smaller table print.

Brilliant! Just absolutely brilliant!

this is very VERY cool!!! thank you for making this video i love tiny toys! :D

Great work! A follow up battle report using this would be great! 😎

Been waiting for more small scale gaming!!!!!

Looks amazing luke!

Great ideas! I love the secret game board too. It reminds me of Thunderbirds, when at the press of a button the furniture in the room turns upside down and inside out; from a comfy lounge to mission central - HQ ))

That's actually quite clever and makes alotta sense

Sweeping vistas of martial mayhem on the back of a picture. Brilliant 👏

Best thing ever. I just finished working on some 15mm AOS and it is fantastic fun and much easier to store / much cheaper / much faster to paint.

Love it, small scale rocks!

I love your job. I started GW games in 1993 with "space marines" 6mm scale (became "Epic" a few years later) and that was the spirit you describe.

The 40k board in the back of a photo frame blew my mind. I have to do that now.

The picture frame board is a genius level move.

I’ve been seeing quite a few smaller scale games being created on purpose built small gaming tables. I think this is awesome and is just perfect for anyone with a small space, something a 6x4 table would be too large for. And as you said, you can put a couple of these smaller gaming tables together to make any size you need for a game. Thanks for sharing this with us, I have lots of ideas now and the wall will look better with them as well! Oh, I’m from New Zealand so the fact you actually have ready basing based on New Zealand terrain is just the bees knees! Gonna track me some down!

me in my studio flat taking notes, the board poster thing is genius

This was a great video. I remember the Warhammer one you did a while back. More like this. I like the ruins and the size of the board. Awesome. More. Please.

Nice. Love to see this get real

I needed this video, thank you

So cool to see someone else doing this too! I made Marines versus Orks and replayed Battle At The Farm but with a few additional units. I used One Page Rules and it was fast and fun. Also started printing off some downscaled 'Robot Legions' from OPR. Like you I used Tinkercad which is so easy to use. The whole setup is also really portable - army in a Lunchbox. Thanks for the video :-)

Thanks for the content. Lots of great ideas. Might actually encourage me to play lol

I done a similar thing back in 3rd edition 40k. I used epic Eldar and Space Marines from epic and scalped down the board to an equivalent 4x4 to play small games. I used cork board and green felt. This allowed to scenery (hills, woods etc) stick to the felt base as I based the with felt. It turned out it was perfect for a 40k board while traveling on a train as stuff didn't slip around and was small enough to pack up in a small box afterwards. The playing area was 48cm squared. Ranges were in cm rather than inches.

This is flipping brilliant guys. Damn

This is really inspired me, once I get a 3D printer I'm definitely gonna do a similar setup.

THIS IS BRILLIANT

I like it. The scale definitely works

epic man Amazing idea and I love it.

This looks incredible!

Love it mate. Great little figures. I really like the compact size. You can have a game with not even 1 fifth of the fuss.

Killer video! I love seeing people get creative with proxying. I've been very tempted to use 15mm Ral Partha models for Necropolis 28.

I’ve been waiting for this video since you mentioned it in other tiny warhammer video

This is great! I did the same thing with Bolt Action... except I bought 15mm minis, didn't print them. But it works great and so much more accessible.