How To Make A MAGNETIC GAME BOARD For 10mm WARGAMING
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EPISODE 45
This episode I make a ... one second deep breath 10 MM SCALE MAGNETIC TRAVEL CASE GAME BOARD FOR 10MM WARGAMING. Catchy title aint it.
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You done the Daniel Drieghbrusche family proud with this one
@BillMakingStuff
Жыл бұрын
Cheques in the post
This is so exciting. There's a good core of folks out there who have downsized their wargaming pretty literally. It's cheaper, easier to transport and quicker to play. Looking forward to making s board like this for 6mm gaming. :)
@davidlankester
2 жыл бұрын
100% agree buddy. Been toying with this idea for Micro’munda in an 80’s briefcase and micro machines Gaslands Refuelled that rolls up into a Pringles tub made to look like a pipe bomb or something.
@davidoliver7510
Жыл бұрын
Micromunda would be awesome. Been thinking of building my own Necromunda town. And then thought. Where would it go? Where would it fit? 🤔 but a smaller scale means a larger town in a smaller space. Now imagine a ten mm game of warhammer 40k on a standard warhammer 40k gaming board. Its a bit like Epic 40k oh wait. Never mind. I really liked the case thing.
@deece1482
Жыл бұрын
I downsized the scale of my minis, but kept the table size as 6×4, this means I can play large battles and have the board not feel too cramped.
@Ryotbh
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Being pushed for space, I have been using 10mm for most of my TTRPGs; miniatures, buildings, and other bits'n'bobs. I generally tend to have everything at 10mm and then print out larger-scale miniatures for players that want to have a more detailed representation of their character, which isn't used for play.
@superhetoric
8 ай бұрын
@@Ryotbhthat's why I'm here--I'm not into wargaming but rather a recent solo ttrpg enthusiast. I wanted to get a couple of characters for a campaign I'm starting on my own just for visual representation and had noooo clue these small scales existed. I guess I should've known, considering the variety of sizes in scale modeling in general.
Bill, as a geologist, I can say that your landscape really does a great job of portraying some types of sedimentary rocks. Nice work.
@Salty_Sassenach
7 ай бұрын
I’m not a Geologist, but get the Flock outa here 😂
Awesome video, Bill! Loved the tiny scatter terrain and drybrushing. Also… Happy belated birthday!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
thanks mate!
@justsomerandomguywithoutam4499
2 жыл бұрын
boylei :( im scared.... why no vid this saturday?? :(
@paulqruel9290
Жыл бұрын
@@BillMakingStuff This is brilliant, sir you are a true artist. From across the pond. ( Subscribed ).
Not gonna lie, watching you fiddle with the terrain combinations reminded me so strongly of various starcraft maps. The whack of nostalgia was strong. Not sure why, just something to do with the overhead view and the tiered appearance. This turned out rather lovely. Quite enjoyed the idea and am going to shamelessly 'acquire' the crustard 2.0 recipe.
@kelimar3014
2 жыл бұрын
Gotta make a StarCraft board with StarCraft 15mm minis to go with. There’s lots of “space marines” out there for the terrans, and I know I see a lot of straight up Zerg figures from time to time.
@Relyx
Жыл бұрын
@@kelimar3014 Well tbf Warcraft was originally supposed to be Warhammer Fantasy, but GW wasn't interested. Then Blizz basically looked at 40k, and like most university students, copied it while changing it just enough to not be obvious plagiarism. Like Terran's are obviously Space Marines, Zerg are just Tyranids, and Protoss are basically Eldar.
*_The Backgammon checkers/draughts/stones/men/counters/pawns/discs/pips/chips or nips also make quite nice bases for 28/32mm minis and add som needed weight._*
I love how easy he makes this look. I'm going to give it a shot but I feel quite certain that I'm going to end up with a horribly damaged backgammon board.
@angrytheclown801
Жыл бұрын
I'm working on it myself, but I was worried about that myself. Since my family likes playing backgammon, I'm making the wargame boards removable instead of permanent. I'm using chipboard, cut to fit, put magnetic sheets on it, and then topping it with cheap fabric I got from Hobby Lobby painted with coffee grounds mixed with water, and a ribbon to remove them from the case easier, all without damaging the case itself.
@buckb6976
Жыл бұрын
@@angrytheclown801 brilliant! I put a glossy coat on some sandpaper that I had colored to look textured. I like how it looks BUT it's too thick for the magnet sheet below :( so I'm starting over.
I love the idea of having more portable TTRPG / Wargaming options! I think it’s Knarb that does a lot of smaller-scale tabletop stuff and I honestly adore it. Plus using the game board as your case *and* the board itself? How clever!
In terms of playing scale, one thing you can do is take a game with rules in inches and just measure in cm. So 6 inches becomes 6 cm That is a factor of 2.54 which is pretty close to 2.8 (ie 28mm divided by 10mm)
@kelimar3014
2 жыл бұрын
I do this with my 15mm stuff and it works perfectly.
I've found the best cheap source of magnetic meterial is used cans (e.g. Baked beans) use tin opener to remove the top and the bottom, cut down one side (kitchen scissors works) then flatten into a sheet, make sure you trim any sharp pointy bits off as the edge can be sharp. But it makes a great thin sheet of metal (with pre-built in ribbed texture) that works well with neo magnets.
You are a genious!! You inspired me to open my own Scratchbuild channel
So glad I found this. Brilliant idea! I just recently realised that I could print my D&D minis at a 10mm scale and save on time and resources, and still get a massive amount of models ready for use. I added magnets to all the models but was struggling with figuring out a handy board system. Never even considered a folding case. It's perfect! Thank you!!!!
This is a great idea, with an even better execution. I can't help but imagine gaming shops having these for their free play section. Like a collection of different style maps. Each one would be in a different case, like a game-map encyclopedia set.
It always kills me a bit on the inside whenever I see crafters throw away 3d printed supports, glad to see it being used for once.
@kevinpatrickcarey3741
Жыл бұрын
can they be melted to be reused in the printer?????
@XyerDark
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinpatrickcarey3741 I believe there's machines that do that for filament (and with some knowhow you could probably make it yourself) but for resin you can't and shouldn't try as it's probably extremely toxic to do.
10:32 We use mod podge to seal foam because once cured it's non-water soluble. Even when dry, PVA can be reactivated by water (such as that present in acrylic paints) causing it to go all dodgy. *mod podgey = no dodgy*
I'd love to see additional case builds, perhaps something utilizing the center divider like a city wall or something similar so it sort of 'blends' in?
Ok, those toy guns as 10mm ruins is genius. Also, get yourself a bigger makeup brush for dry brushing if you dont have one already, will save you loads of time for large surface dry brushing!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
oh I do... I was just savouring it.
Next time you should use air duct sheet metal for the bottom of the case to hold the terrain in place. It's light, not too expensive, and those neodymium magnets will grip tight and your terrain won't wiggle at all
One Page Rules once held a contest for gaming systems. One of the winners would be excellent is this scale the game is called ORBIT Link
I've been toying with making a Space Hulk travel set, using 6mm Epic scale figures, on a mini chess board. This makes me want to get on with it.
"a new ruler that is showing inches, but at a new scale, so it's basically an inch divided by 3", like the imperial system wasn't complex enough already. Good job Bill!
I think everyone has a family recipe for crustard, the one my Nan passed down is acrylic paint, PVA and ready mixed filler. If you add water and dry it with a heat gun you can get a cool crackle effect. Awesome video again Bill, I'm watching while I make dinner because I'm a grown up, I'm making chicken nuggets because I'm a child.
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with chicken nuggets
@polyambicnonsimos
2 жыл бұрын
This may be a bit forward but I love you bill
Dr Manhattan = Elsa for Frozen, this is the deep cutting social commentary I come to these videos for
Fantastic build, that looks like it'd be a blast to play on during a road trip!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
you'd lose bits down the crack of the seat. I'm not trying it.
@AVspectre
Жыл бұрын
My wife and I enjoy bringing a few fave small scale ‘board’ games when we travel. While we don’t usually play on the plane, they are great for layovers (when you don’t want to nod off or wander too far from your gate). They are small enough to share a table with some grub and wait out a rainy afternoon. We enjoy Biblios but smaller games could be deck based only or something like Hive. :)
At 10mm scale you could probably just convert all distances from Inches to Centimeters and it would be close enough. Then you just need some small metric rulers and/or tiny metric tape measures.
@MrRourk
Жыл бұрын
Or some print off some 12mm hex paper for Fantasy Trip and other games that use Hex Measurements. I use 8mm x1mm disc magnets for bases
@JMcMillen
Жыл бұрын
@@MrRourk With 12mm hexes, you could play the tiniest game of Battletech.
@MrRourk
Жыл бұрын
@@JMcMillen yes have done that
@MrRourk
Жыл бұрын
@@JMcMillen for mechs I recommend 10mm x 1mm disc magnets for bases
🙋🏻♀️ I do enjoy the dry brushing 💜
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@Voirreydirector
2 жыл бұрын
What sort of brush do you use?
I honestly enjoy watching the dry brushing and seeing the change in detail
Nothing motivates me to work on little fiddly bits more than watching someone make cool little fiddly bits 👍
Idea for you. Next one you make.. put a raised railway along the join of the suitcase. Make ruined city scape each side of the railway. Or make a earth raised embankment with the rocks you have and do a American wild west railway with Indians bandits and cowboys.
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
was thinking something along those lines but no time
Beautiful stuff. I was just toying with the idea of using magnets more in my building, impeccable timing all around.
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@jackbrobst7559
2 жыл бұрын
I was just in the process of making a briefcase blood bowl pitch. Not the first time Bill has made an extremely timely video, i'm starting to think he's a precog or something.
@jherazob
Жыл бұрын
@@jackbrobst7559 Shhh, he's listening
I just discovered your channel and I'm already loving it. I'm not sure that I will make magnetized terrain but the cliff face technique is lovely. Thank you!
What an absolute fabulous idea. I really love the terrain items and the magnet / backgammon box use
This is a wonderful example for our great interacting crafting community. there are so many great ideas all around the globe which we all share to create our individual projects. and I hope you find someone on the road to play with.
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
The joke about throwing magnets into children’s mouths made me like this 😂
The Romans liked sponges on sticks too Ingenious idea, very creative.
This was really cool! Watching you show the various configurations was fun to watch and super inspirational!
My god, the figures are so tiny! Nice self-reference to Daniel Drybrush (an innovator and scoundrel all wrap into one). Whisper voice: "You're welcome." Thanks for the mention! : ) Normal voice: "Those mountains are so tiny!" The board came out cool! One day we shall play... you will have all of the cool figures and terrain (because I never build this stuff), but hopefully you will have an extra battle team for me, which will probably be composed on malcontents, complainers, and bums no doubt, but what should I expect...? I should've built my own team. Sigh. p.s. Nice camera move on the glamour shots (motorized slider?).
@BillMakingStuff
Жыл бұрын
Its a little wheeled motorised gimbal thing. Tiny thing. Ill bring the case when I come over... you can bring the beinets
This is a concept I've thought of for a long time for Kill-Team 2018 and Kill-team arena thanks for the amazing idea to scale down the board. It was hard to think of a way to get mountains/ rough natural terrain inside a collapsible game board. Love the idea for the magnetic sheet below. Thanks for all the ideas, and hope the building goes well. Have a great day
I’d absolutely LOVE to watch more terrain making for this board!!
Next episode - Bill vs Omar Sharif at Backgammon, on the backseat of a car!?
As a 40yr old who rather stay by myself as I hobby alone, your humor was spot on and very much welcome in these lonely days. Than you.
It is nice to see I am not the only one whose fingers get covered in glue
Great work, I have 6mm road wars which I was going tombuild a case for... I I now inspired to find a case like yours. Thanks for the inspiration... found your channel purely by chance... I have followed instructions and subscribed.
Fabulous stuff as always, almost makes me think I might have a go at making anything! Keep up the great work!
I tried to do something similar, but I dunno if it was my magnetic sheets or if my mini magnets were to small or both but it didn’t really work out. The magnets I have stick so much more to sheet metal so I think I’ll try that next but I want to be able to texture or cover whatever I’m using so it’s not just out in the open. Glad it worked out for you, Bill. We’ll see what happens for me haha.
@kelimar3014
2 жыл бұрын
As someone whose also encountered this I get the strong sense that doing industrial boards is the way to go. That way you can put some cut sheets of paper on the base metal sheet and then paint it all up like sheet metal for a ship’s deck or concrete. That way you get the look of terrain without much in the way of material between the mini and the board. Ditto for buildings with playable tops or upper levels. Just put more metal sheeting as the base level of the roofs etc.
So many tips and shoutouts in this one it felt like a compilation of your youtube hobby experience so far 👍
Great vid!! I learnt so much. Not to throw magnets directly into children's mouths, Cat is a psychopath, witch hands are best hands, and so much more.
Awesome build Bill :) I've had a large canteen of cutlery box (approximately 24" x 18" when open) I've been saving for a similar idea for Necromunda/Stargrave.
Hope your birthday was good dude, you deserve it. Thanks for all the great videos and inspiration!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!
Probably my favorite build from you so far! Love the concept.
BRILLIANT!!! Random suggested video via KZread…and you have another subscriber just like that!
I like the foam rock face technique . I use Elmer glue and fine sand to cover foam. It makes cement like hardness thats ez to work with
Super cool build, Between you and Knarb I’ve quickly realized the practicality of 10mm for large maps and open areas I’m definitely gonna have to muck around and try building in it some time
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
Definitely not a new concept, but amazing outcome. 3 years ago I saw this one guy do one for D&D but it was not in a backgammon case. I think it was some sort of puzzle case. It inspired me to do a 5x6inch case similar to this. I like the magnets though, I used transparency paper. I like the area for pieces. Makes me want to revisit and try making it bigger and better.
Again, lot's of excellent tips and tricks! I haven't, uh, ever built anything... yet... though I've purchased a bunch of things (haha?). But, you know... Great stuff! I always enjoy your videos!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@kristyscreations2217
Жыл бұрын
Me neither, just collected bins of trash and beads.
Great video Bill! I love watching your stuff! I will be out in the shops looking for a case now to make my own. Brilliant work. You're a magician with the crafts!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
I love these box creation videos. Adam savage made an excellent box for hellboy’s six shooter.
Great idea. Thanks
Love this idea. I don't know how it would go on your backgammon board, but if you divide everything by 2.5 instead of 3 life becomes a lot easier
Fantastic! I need to build me one of these!
Instead of magnetic sheet, maybe you might look at using 1mm carbon or galvanized steel plate the neodymium magnets love to stuck to that. I made a travel board game using the metal sheets glued to and old board game backing. Then I printed out the game path, and spray adhered that to the metal plates. Then I added the magnets to the game pieces, and added a spinner rather than dice, and the grand kids love to play it when we go on trips in the car.
Literally just started a magnetic 12mm, 1/144 scale project yesterday. Awesome timing, and awesome video. Specifically working on a small scale Star Wars board, and printed some tiny versions of Star Wars Legion units.
@Ben_Fett
2 жыл бұрын
Something to note for those considering making something like this. If you go to 12mm or 1/144th scale, there are a lot of model kits out there in that scale already. It's also fairly close to the 1/160 scale of N scale trains, letting you dip into those options for terrain as well.
I assure you, Cat is just like any regular cat
This could apply to virtually any board game - reducing it down to scale or removing some elements to fit inside the travel box. Thinking this might be a way for crafting a mini osrt of travel version of a pirate game called "Plunder", that my son and I enjoy playing. Thanks Bill for a cool idea and keep up the good work!
Love the whole vibe of the video - truly superb. Subscribed!
Just discovered your channel through this video. Love the content, the video quality and I share the same passion with smaller/accessible gaming.
Great idea! I love dry brushing!
Looking good. The only extra thing I'd do is paint the inside spine of the case to match the ground (or paint it as a wall).
Jawsome idea Bill, I really like the movable terrain.
Excellent, very inspiring, such a magnetic video ! Clapping hands !
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
Enjoyed the drybrushing.
Just realised the heat gun sounds like a mini crowd cheering 👏👏👏👏 Anyway, another top notch vid 👌 love the dry brushing, old don't stop 🤌🏼
First time to your channel, love your humor and style. Thanks for sharing!!
That’s pretty amazing. I’m a little surprised the magnets still attract through the texture paste, but they certainly do!
Now I have to do a skirmish game, a dungeon crawler, and if necessary get into other types of games! The cat gods demand it!
It might be cool to devise a way to prop one side of the case up and then magnetize the terrain for vertical battle situations.
Awesome vid!! I feel inspired!
Wonderful work bill
Great video Bill!
Ooh, fabulous idea. Showed a friend. I'm sure she'll love it too😊❤️
I use pva glue, paint and 10%varnish in my basing paint instead of modpodge. Essentially the same thing but cheaper and stronger.
@wayward-saint
Жыл бұрын
Any particular varnish brand you prefer?
That was an awesome build! the case and terrain turned out great. And I use a lot of the Final Faction toys in my personal builds. Even grabbed some of the actual action figures and repainted them and modded them a bit to use as monsters and big ass robots in some of our Stargrave and This Is Not A Test games.
Cool build Bill! Love the idea of making something so small and portable but still looks good. And thanks for the name drop!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
Absolutely building something like this, would work so well for travelling amd keeping the kids happy
Fantastic video! Love the concept!
This is so freaking cool man! Great job! Very inspiring!
What a great idea! As always an excellently executed video.
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
That's brilliant! I never had luck working with magnetic sheet... Seems like the magnetism is not strong enough.
I learned about your channel from studson studio, and I'm glad to be here. Love your videos, as well as your dry humor. And dry brushing.
@BillMakingStuff
Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
This is so awesome! I’m currently working on a bunch of scaled down terrain for d&d and onepagerules games. I don’t have the space for full scale stuff tho I wish I did. Keep up the awesome work!!
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
Just amazing!
This is the most inspiring project I seen in a while.
Great concept, I love it
Awesome build! It came together excellent.
@BillMakingStuff
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
Someday if Bill gets fed up he'll run away and build a castle out of cardboard and beads
Great work Bill. One of my favourites of yours. As a former Epic Space Marine player as a kid, this really struck a nostalgia chord.
I love this! Though i was waiting for the board to be tipped over to show how everything would stick lol
I loved this episode!! And your board and terrain pieces came out amazing! Going to give a crack if and hopefully give it to a friend for his birthday.
This looks pretty cool. Thanks for all the tips. Nice cat thing. 😃👍🏻