Thanks Leah, my large square was a little out, and this technique fixed it right up!

Damn, it worked! Thanks so much for this very clear video explanation. You just saved me a lot of money as I was contemplating buying a Woodpecker square. One sharp tap with a nail set and right back to square. Beautiful thing.

What a simple use of physics! I am so glad that I subscribed. Your videos have been making my home projects so (relatively) easy. Thanks for the videos ☺

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

David Kwiatkowski You're welcome, David, and thanks for commenting!

Another way to check if it's square is to use the 3x4x5 rule. you can use a tape measure and measure on the inside of the square and see if it holds 5" from 3" on one leg and 4" on the other. you can even measure further by using 6x8x10 or 12x16x20. great tips and tricks you present on this channel.

Never even thought about this thanks!

Thanks again Leah....I do a lot of sewing and I use my square frequently...this is a great video for tools maintenance....straight to the point:)

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

Southern Girl Interiors you're welcome, Southern Girl! glad it was helpful. :)

Awesome Leah!!!!!.

Dear Leah: Today I have learned something new thanks to you. All very useful, didactic and very clear like all yours tutorials. Thank you, an I wish health, happiness to you from Córdoba Argentina.

@seejanedrill

8 жыл бұрын

+Fernando M thanks, Fernando, I'm glad you found us! :)

Didn't know that!!! Actually never knew they could get "out of square ". Love your videos. Thank you very much.

@seejanedrill

8 жыл бұрын

+Coronalite59 you're welcome, and thanks for commenting!

Something I never would have thought about (& now I know how to fix it - if it ever happens to my square) thanks Leah!!

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

QuincieJMc You're welcome, Quincie!

Great help for us that just don't know these things. Have you every done a video on how to check a level? Thanks for all your help with items around the house and work shop. I fixed a sagging door with your "fix a door hinge" viedo.

Were you a teacher in a previous career? You have a natural ability to explain things in an easy to understand way. I'm a bit of a DIY warrior and have found many of your videos to be very educational. Keep up the good work!

@seejanedrill

8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Mackney Thank you, Paul! I appreciate it. I was a trades instructor, as well as a journeyman. :)

This is a handy tip, thanks! I'm going straight out to my workshop to give it a try.

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

you're very welcome!

I watch a lot of KZread videos on carpentry and construction and yours are among the best.

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

thank you very much!

@artgordon7290

6 жыл бұрын

YOU ARE THE BEST.

I thank you very much because i have learned a lot of things with your videos

As pencils tend to vary widely in lead width and sharpness, I use an xacto knive and score my lines with than. Helps if it isn't too bad or if its almost not worth trying to fix. Expect any square from Harbor Freight to need some tuning. I usually invest in a good one and store check it with a machinst's square before I buy it.

Awesome!!! Thank You!!! 👍😎

You're amazing Lea, thanks for all your videos! :D

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

:)

Excellent tip! Thank you.

@seejanedrill

8 жыл бұрын

+Sunny Jim you're welcome, Sunny Jim, and thanks!

Great video! will this method work with Speed Square?

Thanks for another great tip!

@seejanedrill

6 жыл бұрын

🙂

Neat idea.

Another great video. We use T-shaped aluminium squares, at work. They're terrible for keeping square because they're riveted together, so one of the other guys ended up having to weld them. So far, they seem to be staying true to ninety degrees.

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

jublywubly Hey jubly, nice to hear from you again! :)

Great Tip. Keep the videos coming. Im tuneing in from brazil. :-)

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

Patricio Silveira Fantastic, we love to hear where people are from. Thanks for writing, Patricio!

thank you dear lady . i all ways wondered about that .

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

you're very welcome, Walter!

Good tips as usual Leah, just an idea though, if you have a square that is too far out of true to repair instead of throwing it away why not cut it in half and fix it to the side of a table or bench and use it as a handy scale , keep up the good stuff !!

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

ian elley Not a bad idea!!!

@brianmiller9365

7 жыл бұрын

Or cut it and use as a simple straight edge after filing off the burr.

@gregre052

6 жыл бұрын

Damnation! I wish I thought of the "use it as a ruler" idea. I saw the dimple the square idea a couple of weeks ago and tried it. The square was too far out. If I had seen the ruler idea then I still would have bought a new framing square but i wouldn't have a new ruler on my work table!

Great tip!

@seejanedrill

8 жыл бұрын

+Kim L thanks!

Thank you for the video. I have a square that's over 30 years old that I found out working on a project using plywood , that was not square. I usually just measure off the edges of the plywood and cut. But one cut I decided to use the square. While putting stuff together I discovered it wasn't sqare. After watching how to check it, I checked mine. It was out. I did the center punch an found out that metal is soft. Only 2 whacks did it.

Thanks for the tip

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

richard raesr sure thing!

Excellent tip. Thanks. Saved me some $.

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

:)

You’re amazing.

Would it be better to start the 2 lines about 1/8-inch apart at the base? That way you can tell if the lines are converging or diverging. If you start with the 2 lines on top of each other, you may forget which mark was first and then can't tell whether your square is 90- or 90+

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the observation.

@linn3806

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the accuracy you desire, however one over the other is in my opinion the best for seeing very small differences. I prefer to draw my lines on the outside of the vertical leg, it seems easier. Your lines will either align, cross, or drift apart from each other. Therefore It doesn't matter which one was drawn first or second, the results are instantly visible. If they cross, the square is greater than 90 degrees, and if they drift apart, the square is less than 90 degrees. This determines if you peen the inside or outside of the corner.

my dad left me a Stanley square his dad's same size as you have it pulls apart at the corner and has a locking mechanism (to save space so it fits in a joiners tool bag). i corrected it by same punching method and it's spot on now, i thought it was a very good idear. but look like you thought of it before me. lol excellent video 3rd generation joiner.

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, It was something I was taught coming up in the trades. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

thank you again !

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

docclutch you're welcome, doc! :)

Great tip...Mahalo.

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

J Nicolas :)

My wife saw this video and hit me over the head with a mallet lol

Very informative thank you. What brand do you recommend ? Is it worth to spend a lot of money ? Some square are 10 times the price of others. And what material do you recommend (steel, aluminium ? ). Thanks, Yverof

@seejanedrill

8 жыл бұрын

I would suggest, as with any tool, going with a good name brand.

@tuckerwebb618

7 жыл бұрын

If Festool made squares, I would say that's your best bet in terms of quality! :)

@linn3806

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on what your working on. I use an aluminum framing square for everything because it is light and easy to handle, especially if it is in your hands all day. However, it easily wears and can end up with grooves and scratches if you drag it across abrasive work pieces. Regardless of the material it is made of, it is a tool for accurate layout. These tools are not to be tossed around, used as a hammer, etc. as they can become out of square. If you drop any square, before you continue to use it, take a minute to check and make sure it was not bumped out of square. If your in an extreme environment and treated rough, expect it to become out of square. All precision tools should be treated with care, and the material it is made of really won't matter. I choose my tools based on what I intend to use it for, and the environment I work in. If you are working with any type of steel, iron, stainless steel, go straight to Starrett Tools. They are hardened and made to last when working with abrasive materials, especially steel. Hardened heads and Satin Chrome blades will last you a lifetime. Not cheap, but if you take care of them, you will only buy them once in your life. My Starrett tools are 47 years old and look practically brand new after many years of use.

@Yvero94

2 жыл бұрын

@@linn3806 Thank you very much for this. Very informative.

So, after watching your video on the Pythagorean theory, couldn't you use this as well? If the inside is marked, it would seem a simple thing to simply take the measurement at the 3 and 4 inch marks. Greater than 5 inches means it's splayed out, less than 5 it would be canted in, correct?

@linn3806

2 жыл бұрын

If your layout is very small and tolerances are loose, no problem. If doing a large layout, checking a square using a small triangle may not allow you to see a problem until you are making longer layout lines. Example, draw a triangle with a 4 inch base and a 3 inch rise and connect them with the slope line to complete the triangle. Lay a scale or ruler exactly parallel to the slope line of the triangle. Extend the slope line 12 inches past the 3 inch rise leg of the triangle. Now move the ruler a small amount so that it is not exactly parallel to the slope line of the triangle and observe how far the end of the ruler has moved from the slope line. The difference at the 3, 4, 5 triangle is hardly noticeable, if at all. But at the end of the slope line, 12 inches away from the original triangle, the difference is much different and can result in large errors. The longer the slope line, the larger the difference. This difference could become catastrophic to the desired accuracy. The difference as small as the thickness of the pencil line that was used to draw the 3, 4, 5 triangle, can be several inches in error 10 feet away. If you choose to use the 3, 4, 5 method to check squareness, measure the largest triangle you possibly can, which increases accuracy.

@barbarianatgate2000

2 жыл бұрын

@@linn3806 Agreed. The formula can be increased over any scale as long as the ratios are consistent to the original formula. It's most commonly referred to as the "3-4-5" test among woodworkers, so that's why I suggested it. But yes, a larger layout would benefit from a larger version of the same test.

Thank you for rescuing my square.

Pretty cool video . . .

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

***** thanks!

Tongue & blade? Hope I can remember that.

I enjoy you tips alot. But could u actually demo the straighten of the square ?

i like the ending, "you can do this". most of the people i know say the opposite about almost everything.

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

:)

👍👍👍

they cost ike 8 bucks. home depot for Johnson products. "Tap it with authority" you're great Leah!

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

Richard Cowtails thanks, Richard!

@greygoosemafia

9 жыл бұрын

I have a question. What's the difference between the steel and aluminum? Bedridden the metal lol

@greygoosemafia

9 жыл бұрын

Like. The steel versian is cheaper. ??? Lol

All good and well but how do you know where to tap? Inside corner or or outside corner? I have two lines not lining up so I need to tap somewhere but where?

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

Tap inside corner square= expands out Tap outside corner square= expand in

@PetrikNZ

7 жыл бұрын

seejanedrill Yes I understand that but from drawing the two lines how do you know which one to do?

@seejanedrill

7 жыл бұрын

Wanes right... adjustment needs to be made to the inside corner. Wanes left.....adjustment needs to be made to the outside corner

@PetrikNZ

7 жыл бұрын

seejanedrill So that's the second line in relation to the first line?

@andreyzagoruyko5390

6 жыл бұрын

Ooookay, so I'm assuming you are using the tongue along the straight-edge both times just as Leah was doing. If the lines CONverge (come together) toward the end furthest away/opposite from you, then your square is expanded out over 90 degrees so you would tap the outside corner (on either side). If the lines DIverge (come apart) toward the end away/opposite of you, then your square is expanded in under 90 degrees so you would tap the inside corner (on either side) to expand to 90 degrees.

ANOTHER great demo… thank you. If square is not repairable…maybe cut in two pieces and use blade and tongue as straight edges .

would work with two different colored pencils too!! Then you would know which side was not straight...........?

@mattgiangrande

8 жыл бұрын

+astrialinda H It's all relative - either side could be the one that's "off" depending on how you want to look at it

Factory edge and on the money do not belong together :)

Sheer genius

@seejanedrill

9 жыл бұрын

oobaka1967 Thanks!

I see one problem to this method of checking for the squareness of your carpenter square. In order for this method to work perfectly, you first have to make sure that your "straight edge" is absolutely straight and even, with no variations at all. Any minute variations will be magnified at the end of the square. Wouldn't it be better to draw the two 90º lines with the square and use trigonometry to determine the hypotenuse? Then transfer that hypotenuse measurement to the square to see if it matches?

@echarters

8 жыл бұрын

Trying to measure the line to 90% accuracy means you have to measure 3/32 in a 16.97 inch line to plus or minus to 1/100 of an inch. A 0.50 mm engineers mechanical pencil is 1/50 of an inch. Error will probably be 1/25 of an inch if you have a 1/64th division 2 foot rule. (42%) Thickness of line, drawing and eye "parallax", accuracy in line up, movement of rule, etc.. Scribing would improve it a tad.

@timfoster5043

7 жыл бұрын

Holding it up against the MDF straight edge should address that concern, I would think.

Jane is good.

I know Woodprix has the best woodworking plans.

Quit telling us what you're gonna do, and just get on with the video. I can read the title and I know what you're gonna show us. So much wasted time