Btw, I AM one of those players. I do everything solo. I hate having to group up. I don't have time for it, and I don't like dealing with the general chat on wow lol

@publicguy1664

Ай бұрын

There's plenty of nice people out there, they're just also avoiding the toxicity of the hardcore community, lol.

@Heldensocke-nh9cj

Ай бұрын

I can understand but somehow this is not how you play an MMO and it sadens me to see that WoW becomes more and more single player

@courtneylconover80

Ай бұрын

​@@Heldensocke-nh9cj I'm an introvert, to an extreme. I hate being forced to socialize. Games shouldn't cater to just extroverts

@anteprs7908

29 күн бұрын

@@Heldensocke-nh9cj when most ppl are casual and solo players in most modern mmorpg you ether adapt or die out

@wmen48

18 күн бұрын

​@@courtneylconover80 to be fair, there are single player games. Also ff14 has a way to do lore raids alone with good ai members of the cast. It really adds to the feeling when in raid you eg. follow the blind mage that has best sight through magic.

Follower raids would be amazing. Then I could raid whenever I want and leave whenever I want.

I love that they finally look at the solo players and giving us so many cool things

If they gave Chromie time a facelift where we were able to solo through old dungeons and raids to get the full story, also a chance at some loot, that would be an instant win for new players and returning players. That said, they should also bring back prepatch storylines and legendary quests, or really, any cut content or outdated endgame to Chrome time, not just so people can see how & why an expansion kicked off, like BGA & the War of Thorns, but so people can also learn about characters, like Wrathion back in MoP, and to also bring back relevancy to other continents. Pair this with adding lore retrieval locations to the capitals, for people to go back and rewatch cinematics, reread lore books, find lore recaps etc, we could be eating good for storytelling into the future. That said, outside of roleplay realms where guilds can be doing RP events at 4am on the Isle of Thunder, or the people who like to return to old content for levelling or completing collections, achievements or gold farms, the world is dead outside of current content and it doesn't help that certain cities, like Boralus, were impacted by heavy sharding. So, they definitely need to rethink the evergreen aspect of endgame and try to put some relevancy back into older content, perhaps using the traveler's log and actually giving us more tendies per activity for going back to old content would be a start. I think the best thing that Blizzard could give to people who want to finish expansions, even when they're reached max level, is allow players' to opt back into Chromie, either to extend their time at a specific level so that they can finish the rest of the zones without out levelling the content or opt back in, and downscaling their power level to continue doing the content at a later date. Forcing people to stay around would hurt alt levelling for long term players, so they need to balance the system around giving players' choice in this. If someone wants to quit, they can leave at the next level cap and go on to do current content, or you can stick around for however long you want to finish the expansion but you don't level beyond cap until you're done (similar to how party sync works).

The timestamp in the corner is such a great addition to these discussions - love keeping up with you! I get this sense that Blizzard is 'stepping off the treadmill', and these kinds of changes represent that, where WoW is becoming a game that just wants you to play it, and not one that holds your feet over a fire for weekly power gains on reset. There is literally 20 years of game content to play. So much of that content will not be seen by new players, or won't be revisited by veterans. Most of the world feels empty. I think there's real promise in "choose your content flavour", where I can take my max-level badass into whatever expansion and gameplay I want to. Add some new hi-res cosmetics like we saw in the MoP Remix, and we suddenly have 20 MORE years of game to play as we fill out our completion logs, run our legacy challenge modes, etc etc. I'd love to play through the FULL story from start to finish, or even just get a neatly packaged summary questline that takes me through the big highlights of each expansion. There is a treasure trove of old and wonderful content to play through, and it just needs a bit of love to really shine and feel relevant again. I haven't checked my farm in Halfhill for years; my Garrison hasn't had any commands to follow; the freakin' Doomhammer collects dust in my bank. Chromie and the Infinites are such an easy excuse to bring us back to those eras, and to give us content that we'll simply enjoy playing.

As someone who doesn't have the ability to do scheduled raid times I always thought it would be cool to have a scenario type thing where the main boss fight is happening in the back ground while you're doing something else. For example the Lich King fight is going on in the background, voice lines and everything would still be visible, while you're fighting off waves of undead to stop them from assisting Arthus. You would still get to experience the story but from a different angle and not as the main heroes of the fights.

Oh my I'd love some proper solo raids and dungeons that are still challenging. I don't want to deal with other players and some stupid logs and whatever they now require you to have. I want to do those things whenever I want to for however long I want

If they could do the same system for raids as the did for follower dungeon's, i would go for that.

I think Solo Raids should be a 5 man follower Raid. That way you can still have some interestig mechanics but every class will still be able to complete it.

@jakubpelikan2393

Ай бұрын

You mean like follower dungeons where 100% mechanics doesn do anything at all and you just ignore all of it?

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

@@jakubpelikan2393 you guys ignore it, because you dont want to practice, you just stand in the fire like a dumbass until it kills you, then you move. lol

Imagine going through all expansions leveling your character like it should have been. Doing the last raid to allow you to continue to the next expansion and level further until you have to do the last raid of that expansion, etc. That would be fun.

A guildie gave me the idea of having your warband characters function as your followers in Delves and Follower Dungeons. This would be awesome for "solo raids" as well. Gives you another layer of customisation and adds value to your alts. I'd love to do old raids with a party of 5 of my warband characters. Also, I love the Eagle jacket. I love their clothing 🇿🇦

Open everything at the same time. There's never been a reason to stagger it

@Cashinn_Outt1754

Ай бұрын

I think a one week delay is appropriate otherwise the LFR/Story mode raiders would spoil the raid for actual raiders since they’d undoubtedly finish it faster

@MrThundaro

Ай бұрын

@@Cashinn_Outt1754 So "actual raiders" get priority over the story? Nonsensical argument.

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

@@Cashinn_Outt1754 dumb arguement, Raiders dont give a fuck about Story, ESPECIALLY after Shadowlands.

@Alpha17x

24 күн бұрын

@@Cashinn_Outt1754 it gets spoiled by wowhead and random KZread videos through. I don't think I'll ever be able to get behind that logic, but it is what it is.

Would love a proper MSQ/story mode to go through the entire story of WoW, optional 100+ hours of mixed text and voice acted material that would tell you the entire canon lore of the series including all the important stuff that they put into books. This will likely never happen or will at most happen after the (hopefully) soft reboot of the game that could take place at the end of The Last Titan.

Solo raids are a good idea. I missed out on a lot of story cause I hated the ever toxic raid crowds at every level of difficulty!

I learned to play with others to get what I want ingame, BUT I would be totally happy if I could do all those things solo. Especially because of toxic people - so I could also learn to tank or heal. I really enjoy Followerdungeons for that reason and therefore it would be amazing if something like this would be implemented for raids. Also I really want a solo mode for Legion Assaults, because you queue like for hours until you can do the actual thing.

I was hoping for all the Raids including Dragon flight all of em.

@UltimateGamerCC

Ай бұрын

that's a bit too much work to expect out of the gate, like rolling back Reps to be account wide, that would be a segmented process.

I was hoping for the entire raid. My friends and I would appreciate a way to raid with just the few of us. We don't quite number 10, so we can't do any raids without pugs or lfr. We don't have any desire to do pugs like that. We just want to play in small groups. I think the old raids would be interesting, but more focus should be on current content. I don't need a group to go back and get the lore of icecrown. I need a group to fight the nerubians in the war within.

Story-Mode Raids and Solo- Raids are completely different in my mind. Solo raiding means going through the entire raid. Story Mode means getting summoned in as reinforcement to an NPC group halfway through so it makes sense that you start there AND you get to experience the story. The issue I still have with it though: What bosses are relevant to the story? Going into Icecrown without fighting Saurfang or Sindragosa feels to me like you're missing out on the story. There are plenty of raids where only the final boss is truly relevant, but there are also plenty of outliers. Imagine Hellfire Citadel. Grommash suddenly being a good guy was confusing enough, but imagine if you don't even free him in the story raid and he's just suddenly there, celebrating with you just after your entire story has been about how he's the big bad. I'm also a bit scared that Blizzard will start developing raids work only a single Lore relevant boss: The final boss.

I think its a great addition to add solo raids..like you wish it could be more bosses but that's a daunting task. I'm all for giving players that can't or won't do group content a way to finish the story

Also to note, many solo players still play group game mode, but they leave if there is no or too easy solo gamemodes.

Make them as the scenarios in Remix. One to three players. A selection of relevant bosses. The dungeons/raids could be spliced differently as well.

Oh yea, about mergin the quests: Maybe we could mark one main character to be our LOREMASTER quester, and all quests done in the past would be logged to that one character, preferrable reputations too if possible. And explored areas with taxiflightpaths, and some NPCs needs to be activated correctly to their phases. Other ALT characters would only have dailies and weekly and world quests and similar ones available, zero on the LORE. I have started fresh Hunter for the job, and is now in Outland, i remember never fully clearing Outland, but i remember clearing almost all other expansions questlines, would want them to be merged for my LOREMASTER Hunter. And then i would only need to complete the leftovers, and not clear every expansion questlines again. I think paid LOREMASTER reset should be an option, and paid swap LOREMASTER, so you gotta choose the one you like to quest the most. One for each faction ofc, since they are different experiences. If you dont mark the LOREMASTER, then your all characters have it active, it may take you some time to choose your favourite.

Warband Raids. You use one character and fill your raid with your alts run by AI. This gives you a reason to gear your alts early instead of just using catch up gear.

I’m a big fan of the mix up/ chrome time. But I don’t know how I feel about it being fully open to one character. Perhaps a temporary reset when you start the expansion (starting at lv1) but you can’t leave the expansion until you have at least hit max level / completed the story (including the raid) having the Chomie/ Mixup for new characters to level up in - 100% but I think a level reset is required if you want your main to go through the mixups

I do LFR, and I welcome solo raids. Also don't like having to wait weeks to be able to do the raids because I don't want to get into the whole raiding thing.

I dont know if its my hype for the Elden Ring dlc but would they give players the possibility in the solo raids to fight alone and only give time heal and mana potions that they could use healing them up. I think that would be pretty bad ass idea even when its just for a Challenge mode inside of the Solo Raids.

I been wondering for GHOST mode, kinda like WAR mode is, but this would be like singleplayer experience for questing, very opposite of the WAR mode. It is madness to try quest on certain times when tens of players are trolling on that same quest, you just cant deal with the tagfests right. And specially when new expansion or season launches it is superduper madnes and packet with players trolling around, you could avoid that hustle with GHOST mode. So GHOST mode would come to rescue, you would make everyone else disappear pretty much, or technicly you would disappear from the other players. Your HEALTHbar would be swapped into cyanblue, like the color theme in GHOST "dead" zone. Quest related items and NPC would be highlighted with that same color theme, everything else looks normal. You would activate this like WAR mode, in the city, and city would stay normal either way. The others could see your GHOST lines but cant interact with your questing. Not yet a perfect vision, but getting there.

As long as it's no rewards. I have always been on board with scenarios / story modes on raids because you have an expansion story that leads you there. If you want to make engaging pve fights to keep players entertained that sounds interesting but then keeping rewards out of it (a) focuses on player choice not chores and (b) keeps to the spirit of a "RAID" where you can not do it on your own. It's a game mode where you need other players, you need to work together, no AI alternatives needed.

It will not be one person killing a boss. It will be one person and the rest in npcs killing a boss. Just like the follower dungeons except it’ll be in a raid form.

They could use the delves system as option like how it currently works in FFXIV with Trusts system

True, people will just look up raid clears rather than wait for 1 month do a story mode. Oh, how much I personally asked for endgame chromie time with a max level, and people on forums ranted, they hate the idea, no idea what they thought about reading the post.

I have to wait a month? That's why I watch them on KZread, when they're released way earlier than that lol

I would love it!

Not surw on the solo raids front unless its just cosmetics. Dont hate the idea, but idk if its necessary. Full Storymode would be great. Either way I still want to see a curated leveling campaign per expansion that includes story pertinent bosses at the end of each "chapter". Thus giving players a main story only leveling campaign.

Of 136 million registered users, there are about 8 million active users. How many would re-sub if there was a solid single player update? A new player/single player experience update could bring back a ton of people. It seems to me like Blizz is leaving money on the table, but Im sure the cost to benefit ratio is grossly in favor of cash shop.... Oh, well, its fun to dream. Maybe, in the near future, Ai could be used to assist with scaling and make it more lucrative?

To change CT into what you want is a big ask with all blzz is already doing, it's not a bad idea just way more work than some would think it would be worth.

Story mode/LFR should open one week later

@jakubpelikan2393

Ай бұрын

It should open after worlf first kill so bosses actualy hold some integrity to their canon powercreep. So this way when you go into story mod you actualy do not kill end game boss you just see whats happen you are not hero killing end game boss it was those players in mythic what killed him.

Blizzard is being dumb about Raids, nobody does Raid for Story content... they do it for the loots, AOTC Achievements, aka Bragging Rights and to fill their Vault slot for the week. just let us do a Soloable Story focused experience with none of the major rewards of said Raid, so those of us who actually give a flying FUCK about the Story and Lore can actually experience it, LFR doesnt work like you think it does.

I am okay with the month delay for raid finder, you are gonna be grinding dungeons and pvp gear for the first month, so you wont go in naked into the raid finder.

Should upgrade to ultimate edition so you not only get 3 days early access but also instant access to story mode!

LFR being a month after is because they cater to the hardcore mythic neckbeards other than the 80% of the rest of us that have normal lives.

@jakubpelikan2393

Ай бұрын

No its becouse most people qould quit on week 1 if you would let them end game boss on week 1. There would be no reason to continue playing.

@ShadowKingRecks

Ай бұрын

@jakubpelikan2393 that makes 0 sense my guy, don't let lfr raiders kill the boss but let's let normal+ raiders kill it asap....

I like the idea of solo raids. Group content isn't fun anymore. Too many people expecting to be carried without making any actual effort.

I think whaat makes this game intresting is people and enjoying free time with friends in diferent univers.

@anteprs7908

29 күн бұрын

but the pp lare the reaso nthe game is also bad the toxic of wow isnt without reason why it called the msot toxic mmorpg

Don't know about the solo stuff, I mean its supposed to be an MMO the communication between players in retail is severed as is, see why some people think classic is a better experience is exactly due to the social aspect, as some things are impossible to achieve without help from other players

@anteprs7908

29 күн бұрын

most mmorpg offer a ton of casual and solo player content and story those player make a ton of if not vast mayority of the playerbase.

story mode for the quest completion, sure, aslong as it isnt giving "boss gear" as that would add to item bloat. its bad enough as is with 4 raid tiers. LFR is a joke and theres no consequences of messing up a mechanic. Normal should be able to be random queued so everyone can experience the raid as it should be, mythic changed to optional hard mode for cosmetics etc. issue you have is people who are overgeared going into lower content for "rare" items and that takes away from other's experiences

90 minute chromietime max lvl recap of main story points/quests.

lfr is awful if you queue for dps good luck. the last time i waited for hours then boss was pulled and i was far cause just entered the raid. rush time ,afk players,trolls who pulls without all raid in. even not waiting for tanks or healers. i want followers raid option with my warband or the alts i would choose to make a team with their gear . love wow but hate waiting to play the content i want . followers dungeons in normal dungeons is good idea except the followers are weak in dps or heal. so let us use our well geared alts to fill the roles but controled by ai .

WoW is just half assed FF14