I MISS THIS SO MUCH! I want to see people in horrible branded shirts playing magic with paper cards and coverage like this.

@rileymeyer4540

3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah man everyone is missing life

@erikmoore2918

3 жыл бұрын

Me too man, me too. Just built a hardened scales deck, ready to take it to my LGS.

@drummingtildeath

3 жыл бұрын

It hurts me watching them flick them, knowing I did the same

@jarrybryant718

3 жыл бұрын

You have to give it to Reid though he played extremely well.

@subzero308

Жыл бұрын

Same digital magic is garbage.

Wow, coverage with the player audio is WAY better. I mean like 500% better. Please keep it this way, even if you're not covering the top pros. I can actually follow the action so much easier.

@hollywoodmkx

23 күн бұрын

No such thing as a “pro” Magic player, no matter what spin they want to put on it.

Look at all those people standing around breathing on each other. Those were the days.

@johnfromtennessee2651

3 жыл бұрын

Those savages.

@willco601

Жыл бұрын

The days where you at least got 4 turns to get your deck going.

I like this zoomed in audio where you can hear the players conversing

Anyone else love the way Reid rolls dice haha, puts so much force into it.

Seeing this in 2021 and the person in the background at 22:24 is definitely ahead of their time.

Bring back the original ink and paper from 90s Magic Cards!!!! That smell of a freshly opened Urzas or Masques booster is something I long to experience one day again 🙂

It’s so frustrating the times they keep talking over or muting the players mics. They really caught lightning in a bottle with this experiment but they keep not knowing what’s so compelling about this whole setup.

Yeah, Matt did not, in any way, deserve a demerit.

@Daniel-cv3dn

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I felt as though the judge didn't want to seem like he made a bad call in giving him a warning, so he just continued with Matt's (failed) warning to save his rep at that point. Honestly, Matt did nothing wrong. For one thing, Matt did nothing wrong at any point (he even noticed the mistake, for crying out loud). Also, I don't like how the judge portrayed Reid's mistake as a sign of game incompetency from Matt (again, even after Matt had noticed and the mistake), which is completely false when considering Reid and Matt agreed that they had noticed the mistake at the same time. Even then, Matt didn't make it a big deal or blame Reid for the mistake; yet, he still got a demerit? This situation was blown out of proportion because of the judge; and, the players, even Reid, were fine in their agreement without the judge.

@enjaded7222

5 жыл бұрын

Danny Solis that’s some shit. Shouldn’t be happen8ng

@RadarBellNotion

5 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-cv3dn The judge should've made it very clear to both players that they have the right to an appeal in this situation. I'm fairly sure the head judge would've overruled the FtMGS. Reid did commit a (textbook) GRV and was issued the proper warning, but the IPG definition of FtMGS is "A player allows another player in the game to commit a Game Play Error and does not point it out immediately." As a judge myself, I believe it was much too quickly to issue a FtMGS to Matt as he hardly had the chance to read the spell before the judge stopped the game. However, one could argue that since he allowed the spell to be cast and begin resolving, he was complicit in allowing his opponent to commit a GRV. Long story short: I agree that the FtMGS should not have been issued, and that the GRV on Duke was absolutely appropriate.

@Captmorgann

5 жыл бұрын

*note just asking a question* So with the silent tombstone being Matt's card does that not put him at fault more so then reid ? I know they changed the rules so that it's suppose to be both players responsibility to maintain the game state so that would put both of them at fault no ?

@RadarBellNotion

5 жыл бұрын

​@@Captmorgann There are basically two separate infractions here. Reid committed a Games Rules Violation. At it's base, he made a choice that wasn't legal. We all agree (even Reid) that this is true. The judge issued Matt a Failure to Maintain Game State.This infraction is defined as "A player allows another player in the game to commit a Game Play Error and does not point it out immediately." To answer your question, it does not necessarily make either player more at fault, in fact both infractions have the same penalty: a warning. This warning usually amounts to little more than a note written on their match slip and an entry into the reporting system. To steal words from the MTG Annotated Infraction Procedure Guide, "The key point here is that both players are responsible for the game state. If the opponent is being observant, they can help catch a player’s error before the problem becomes more severe." Hope this answers your question!

I loved being able to hear them talking it out.

Judge is totally an ass here. I would totally push this up to head judge. Good on Matt for not getting mad here

@RadarBellNotion

5 жыл бұрын

Either player definitely could have. All players have the right to an appeal from a head judge.

@KiddyCut

4 жыл бұрын

WTF was he even getting a warning for? WTF?

@nickfanzo

3 жыл бұрын

@@KiddyCut failure to maintain a game state

@tokyoghost7020

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickfanzo what does that even mean?

@nickfanzo

3 жыл бұрын

@@tokyoghost7020 do you know the rules on an advanced level? It doesn’t seem so,

Damn what a couple of professionals. Reid Duke is one of my favorite players and this match show cases why. Good games.

@willem2099

3 жыл бұрын

That right dude is scary AF

8:39 winning turn one confirmed "much better than any other turn" lool

If I were Matt Nass I would have appealed the judges call, even if there is no chance of an upgrade. He 100% did not deserve an infraction. And if I were Reid I would have said that.

@KiddyCut

4 жыл бұрын

WTF was he even getting a warning for? WTF?

@Ohushi

3 жыл бұрын

He let a spell resolve?

@wolfganggangwolfe

Жыл бұрын

@@KiddyCut Definition A player allows another player in the game to commit a Game Play Error and does not point it out immediately. Penalty Warning There are actually several things going on here. The first is that a player committing a Game Play Error can never earn Failure to Maintain Game State. The only person that can get Failure to Maintain Game State is the opponent. A player earns Failure to Maintain Game State when they do not catch an error made by the opponent. Also note that if a player points out the opponent’s error right away, they do not earn this infraction.

@KiddyCut

Жыл бұрын

@@wolfganggangwolfe after 2 restless years i finally know the answer. Thank you, Wolfgang.

@cameroncorrado3935

10 ай бұрын

Matt did mention something immediately, though, literally before any other game action took place. You can even hear it in the audio. I don't see how giving him a Failure to Maintain Game State infraction is anything other than asinine.

Laboratory Maniac win!!!! Awesome and I liked that Reid asked to confirm and said 'Good Game'

@Thesunburntcrack

Жыл бұрын

Reid is a stand up dude

When Reid is eating it he still keeps his cool.

RD one of the best of all times !

The smirk when he Surgical Extraction’s the Griselbrand🤣

I love these players

KCI looks really weird these days

Thanks heaps for this. 👍

This perspective was so much better. Wish all the exposure want a problem and they keept doing it..

Matt Nass is one of the best combo players ever

No homo, but Reid has that kinda hair you wanna run your fingers through. Maybe it's just cuz I've been bald since 21.

@darinhilbern3444

5 жыл бұрын

You must be a ugly girl Jeff!

@jeffswett4579

5 жыл бұрын

Darin Hilbern nope... Little known fact over 80% of bald men miss there hair. since I'm a guy I guess I'd make an ugly girl.

@VeniVidiVici95

5 жыл бұрын

Jajajajajajajjaj ur a fcking legend

@nebDDa

3 жыл бұрын

Damn dude this is super gay!!!!!!! Good thing you said no homo first though!!!!

I haven’t seen my mtg cards since 2004, I don’t know how I ended up here or what’s going on. I like it though

Wow this judge handled this is the wrong way. Reid didnt argue or get upset but was totally fine with the challenge of the play of the card. Sometimes people make mistakes unintentionally.

@UltimatePokemonFan75

5 жыл бұрын

Nass should not have received a warning.

@joybarber2430

5 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? If you accidentally run into someone while looking over your shoulder would you not say sorry or excuse me? Just because you didn't do wrong on purpose doesn't mean you didn't do wrong.

@coulombicdistortion1814

5 жыл бұрын

Why was baleful strix an illegal target the first time around? Thanks

@joybarber2430

5 жыл бұрын

@@coulombicdistortion1814 the artifact that Reid targeted says you can't target things in the graveyard. To even be put on the stack a card has to have legal targets.

@coulombicdistortion1814

5 жыл бұрын

Gotcha, I just couldn't see from the board state why it wasn't a viable target. Thanks

>keep and scry If only the knew what was on the 'horizon' ...

I don't even understand how this game works, 😂

@thelonedart916

5 жыл бұрын

Time to learn

@nickfanzo

3 жыл бұрын

Learn?

Wow a lot of people don't like the judges ruling? I mean he could have stated that they could appeal, but Matt Nass said he didn't care anyway. Also what he said and did is what the rules state.

In game 3, seems like Nass should have been using his leftover mana on Duke's EoT to pluck counters off his land. It's unlikely to get there but why not take advantage. With the Urborg, the Depths can even help pay for itself.

@christopherlundgren1700

5 жыл бұрын

Oh I guess they actually say that.

I wish I knew any of those cards.

@jacobschwartz4940

3 жыл бұрын

I watch these videos with Scryfall up in another tab

Why reid look younger as time passes?

@michaelsimoneau8364

5 жыл бұрын

he is a vampire

@BlightningBrightling

5 жыл бұрын

I believe it's called Keanu Reeves syndrome.

@ralki15

5 жыл бұрын

He fucked bitches and get riches, duh........

@paulcabero4928

5 жыл бұрын

It's his beautiful hair

@goodguyshuckle9270

5 жыл бұрын

He attained the stone of Aja and with that became a perfect being

i would kill to be getting turn 1'd by tin fins in person right now

Matts resting face is like angry tho lol

@ARQ93

5 жыл бұрын

after round 1*

Judge was extremely wrong here. Shame is the players can't argue because... He's the judge.

@VitaKet

5 жыл бұрын

Not true, seen a player correct a judge.

@alexisrodriguez7127

5 жыл бұрын

VitaKet true the very same day, judge tried issuing a grv on duke with his match up against uw miracles

@vereno13

5 жыл бұрын

How was the judge wrong?

@nickwancho

5 жыл бұрын

Reid himself has corrected the judges miss call towards his creature

@RadarBellNotion

5 жыл бұрын

It is important to note that all players have the right to an appeal from a Head Judge. The judge who gave the ruling, upon seeing that Matt was a bit upset, should've alerted him to this option.

game 1 is the epitome of 2 people getting together and spending over an hour and thousands of dollars to flip a coin -_-

@mjenkins91

3 жыл бұрын

Look up the word epitome

@Ohushi

3 жыл бұрын

Kinda the point of matts deck. Rieds deck is a favorite games 2 and 3

@ImaginationHobbies

3 жыл бұрын

@@mjenkins91 a person or thing that is a perfect example of a particular quality or type. Here is some food internet troll

@mjenkins91

3 жыл бұрын

@@ImaginationHobbies meaning a literal example. There were no coins flipped were there dingus?

@ImaginationHobbies

3 жыл бұрын

@@mjenkins91 a 50/50 chance is the same as a coin flip dingus

What sleeves is reid duke using ?

I wish I knew the cards. I just played as a child.

Turn one btw

39:05 Marshall Sutcliffe is HUGE

Can someone explain please what happens at 17:20. I am a beginner and don't get it

@33shin33

5 жыл бұрын

Reid Duke tried to cast Kolaghan's Command targeting Baleful Strix in the graveyard and Silent Gravestone, however Reid can't target Strix because of Silent Gravestone's effect which prevents precisely that. Reid commited a game rule violation because he tried to do something not legal, clearly by his own mistake. Right after that Matt asked if that play was legal but before asking he puts his artifact in the grave for no reason, that's another violation called failure to maintain game state both players received a warning each for the whole situation, no big deal, both players are incredible magic players specially Reid Duke one of the pillars of this game among many others. Welcome to Magic.

@luxaa319

3 жыл бұрын

To summarize, one made a mistake and the other realized it too late, so they both got a warning.

Both players reacted professionally to the judge call I feel but can someone explain why matt got a warning? I’m not sure I understand

@B455PL4Y3R

2 жыл бұрын

when you agree or allow a play your opponent has made that is a violation, you also get a penalty for agreeing to let that play happen, but only at the REL

Anyone else get Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne vibes from Reid? Similar face and speech if I do say so

I would be pretty miffed if I was Reid after game 1, mad respect to lose with dignity

@StefanWB

3 жыл бұрын

A top-level pro like Reid is going to know that an all-in combo deck like Tin Fins is going to have a very good win percentage in game one, and then see its percentage drop post-sideboard. He didn't have an interactive hand and the opponent had a T1 kill - it happens. But then he got to bring in his excellent hate pieces - Surgical, Bridge, etc. - and has tons of ways to find them thanks to cantrips, and that carried him to victory. So I think he probably thought he didn't have much of a reason to be miffed, because he knew unless he had some unlucky draws he was going to have a much better chance in the next two games.

Any GP with Creepy Rudy is a good GP.

Ok... that seemed fun I guess.

Someone know what sleeves Reid is using?

@noegiussani3749

4 жыл бұрын

Prob dragonshield

Can smn explain to me pls what happened around 19 min? Why it was not a legal play and what did the judge tell them . It's not my 1st language and can't hear him properly

@planktonweed727

4 жыл бұрын

the silent gravestone made all cards in graveyard untargetable, so the spell couldnt be casted. Reid got a game rule violation, Matt a Failure to maintain game state ruling

@fbprof2fbprof112

4 жыл бұрын

@@planktonweed727 thank you

Why wouldn't the judge call pause the time?

C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

did reid still have Bolt in hand game 1?

@noegiussani3749

4 жыл бұрын

Nope, it got unmasked

Anyone know why Reid plays with his library upside down?

@AIMLESS-NAMELESS

3 жыл бұрын

I think it is so he can always know what is his library and what is his hand so he could not mix it up and be forced to concede.

In the first game, could Duke have resigned to hide his hand (and his deck) after the unmask ? The game was over anyway and he knew what Nass was playing, no ?

@alexandreclement9399

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. He got to see the whole deck and get info for sideboard, plus he could have messes up the combo.

Why Matt Nass didn´t play silent graverstone in game 3?

@Kaowaul

5 жыл бұрын

The commentators speculated that he might have been holding one in hand, waiting to draw a second so that he could cast one, have it get countered, and then play the second one after counters have been spent to ensure that it lands. They then add that he might have drawn the second on that draw step, since casting Surgical Extraction during your opponent's draw step can get you more value if they draw the card that you named. Another thought is that he was waiting to draw an Unburial Rites, which has to target, so he could get Griselbrand and use it to draw more cards.

This guy is the master at solitaire. He basically played by himself.

That was a garbage ruling. Matt didn't have time to maintain the gamestate there. I understand if he let the turn pass, then yea...

Why wasn't Baleful Strix a legal target? I must have missed something.

@IanJCullinan

5 жыл бұрын

The artifact in play, doesn't allow cards to be the target of spells in the graveyard

In competitive extended anyone can win on first turn, even in the 0 lol.

this game is example A when presenting how under-trained judges are these days. It's rather pitiful that judges can just be ushered into level one with only hours of magic experience in general.

@hollywoodmkx

4 жыл бұрын

It's especially ridiculous when these judges are presiding over games of Legacy, where the card interactions and text can be very complex.

@ZakanaHachihaCBC

3 жыл бұрын

What exactly was wrong? Duke commented a Game Rule Violation by casting K-Command with illegal targets. Nass gets a Failure to Maintain because he allowed the game to progress past the point of the illegal action, by acknowledging Command has resolved by moving his card to the graveyard. Failure to Maintain doesn’t upgrade, it’s just a reminder to the player to be more careful.

@Tacttactification

3 жыл бұрын

I’m fairly certain that you need to be L2 before you can judge at a comp REL event.

@ZakanaHachihaCBC

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tacttactification You can be L1 and be at Comp REL. it’s just common to be a L1 Floor Judge for an L2+ Head.

@tylerwiggins662

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tacttactification the standard for levels is much lower than it used to be.

I don't get the infraction. What happened with that Kolaghan's Command?

@charleshayesvaughn

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know either! I though it was silent gravestone, but he did it again later and it was still out.

@fernandopereyra5433

3 жыл бұрын

@@charleshayesvaughn I got it, I thought that it was a Relic of Progenitus, but that's a Silent Gravestone, "Cards in graveyards can't be target of spells". That's why Reid couldn't get back the card from grave, because of that effect.

@charleshayesvaughn

3 жыл бұрын

@@fernandopereyra5433 he did it again later though.

@Tupiaz

3 жыл бұрын

@@charleshayesvaughn Reid didn't bring back his Baleful Strix but instead chose the discard mode along with the removal of the artifact.

how does he play that many cards of round 1 with 1 mana?

@Devin-oh7gr

5 жыл бұрын

Jilax west dark ritual gives 3 black for 1 mana the lotus petals were free and so are the L. E. D.s providing 1 and 3 mana respectively

Nothing feels more demoralizing when you have to show your hand to your opponent lol

@vecvecvec

2 жыл бұрын

pros tend to play with those cards in mind, theyre pretty ubiquitous

7:09 why did he not shuffle?

So did thassas oracle just make the grislebrand deck alot better and faster 🤔

@grahamoliver1470

7 ай бұрын

Tin fins has kind of just fallen off the map in recent years. There hasn't been many upgrades for it aside from thassas oracle, but many very strong hate cards have been printed that make it difficult for combo decks to thrive.

Nass got a warning for failing to maintain game state?...Wtf. The spell didn’t even resolve though. I think the whole interaction lasted about 5 seconds. The game state was completely unchanged. I understand judges sometimes make tough decisions especially when they aren’t present for the whole interaction but this was unjust. Also seems like a rule that shouldn’t really exist anyway if it penalises you whenever your opponent makes an illegal game action and you happen to miss it. That’s not a game anyone would get enjoy

@marccernele6109

5 жыл бұрын

What? Matt Nass put his Gravestone in his Graveyard, Reid had put Strix in his hand, and had moved KCommand to his GY. The spell had resolved.

@bunnystew

5 жыл бұрын

Please never play at Competitive REL event

@Daniel-cv3dn

5 жыл бұрын

Whether the spell was resolved or not, the judge did make an unjust call, given the fact that both players literally noticed the play at the same time and asked for a judge to step in.

@marccernele6109

5 жыл бұрын

Danny Solis Unjust? What nonsense are you going on about? Games have rules. The judge followed the rule book.

@matteobicego7634

5 жыл бұрын

I am a judge and i ve ti say that this rule is right

22:29 Pirate!!

Time to get nassty

I still dont get it how to play Magic 😁

@nickfanzo

3 жыл бұрын

Learn?

At 29:45 the play by play guy says Reid tapping out end step to play brainstorm isn’t a free spot because Matt could play shallow grave as an instant to get grissel in play and draw a lot of cards. But how would that even work...it would only be in play till end of turn and I guess draw him 7 or 14 cards, but he would have to discard almost all of them being in his end step. It’s not a control deck, so doing all that just to fill his hand for next turn seems pretty lame, as it then removes the grissel from the game and he has a tough time going off the following turn. I can’t really see a reason Matt would ever make that play, even if he had it.

@Readceras

3 жыл бұрын

Shallow grave would exile Griselbrand at the beginning of the next endstep, i.e. at the beginning of Reid's endstep. Matt wouldn't activate Griselbrand before his own cleanup step that turn.

@bumpasaurus487

3 жыл бұрын

@@Readceras even so, he wouldn’t be able to go off too well, not being able to cast creatures and he can’t crack leds for mana without losing his huge hand. It’s so much easier to go off on your turn to take the cards in waves and be able to play that creature to gain life back

@Readceras

3 жыл бұрын

@@bumpasaurus487 Sorry, I'm not sure that I understand your point. Matt would not be forced to go off during Reid's turn, as Matt does not have to discard to handsize during Reid's clean-up step. Had matt successfully resolved shallow grave in his endstep, he would most likely draw fourteen cards with Griselbrand with the shallow grave exile trigger on the stack, untap, thoughtseize/unmask/cabal therapy to clear the way, then try to put vampire hexmage and another creature into play, so that he's less vulnerable to an edict. Alternatively, he can entomb + exhume another Griselbrand into play, ideally with another fodder in play against an edict as well. Note that with mutiple rituals in hand, Matt's definitely well set up black-mana-wise. Keeping a living wish in hand for a rec sage would also help Matt beat a bridge. The downside of doing so is that Children of Korlis no longer functions. I would argue that this downside is not big enough for him not to go for it. Letting Reid resolve a brainstorm and untap would turn on Reid's flusterstorm, give Reid more opportunities to find a FoW, and let Reid disrupt Matt's hand. Perhaps you'd still be inclined not to go for it, but saying that there's no reason for Matt to ever make that play, is imo absurd.

@bumpasaurus487

3 жыл бұрын

@@Readceras not just children not working, also leds won’t work for mana as effectively. Cause it works when u draw 7, play it and sac it, then use that mana to play some of the next 7 cards u draw. Also, his gris will be gone which he will need to find, get it in yard and get back again to keep going off. My point is that even tho 14 cards seems helpful, it really isn’t cause u can’t finish going off. Even if u clear the way with hand discard, get a 2nd Gris, and reanimate it, how do you draw more cards at that point? I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have animated it even if he had it in hand, cause it would be very hard to win from that point on. It’s much better to hold it and try during your turn at some point.

@bumpasaurus487

3 жыл бұрын

@@Readceras I was mistaken about discarding, you’re right. But I still think it’s not a consideration at that point based on the flow of the game. There would be no reason to go for it like that. It would be much harder to win from that point than just dealing with a counter or two. He could wait till he draws discard or gets him to tap out.

Its been a long time since I've played mtg tournies, did they change the rules around multi targeted spells? I remember around Ravinica block, that if you cast a spell with multiple targets and one or more targets are not legal targets, the spell would fizzel. At the time the that meant things like Hex and Rack and Ruin could be thwarted by making a single target illegal.. Did they change that rule at some point, -unwinding a spell cast on a spell that would have fizzeled on the stack doesn't make sense to me. i e, let the spell fizzel (because one target is illegal), then continue play. There shouldn't be a rules warning for what is in my mind a play mistake, not a rules infraction (unless like I mentioned, the rules have changed since I played). Feel free to comment if someone knows the rules surrounding multi-target spells.

@Nanofuture87

5 жыл бұрын

In order to put a spell on the stack in the first place it must have legal targets (for example, you can't simply decide to cast a counterspell with no spells to counter). If after that something happens to those targets (either they no longer exist or are no longer legal targets) then the spell fizzles when it goes to resolve.

Both players were upstanding citizens. Judge was a dink.

@emilj6858

4 жыл бұрын

What did the judge do wrong in your opinion?

This is why I despise combo decks. Duke took 3 seconds to make his play and pass the turn. Then, he had to sit and wait/watch for 8 minutes while Matt Nass took his turn.

Matt Nasty

That judge should receive an infraction.

@Ohushi

3 жыл бұрын

No both players did.

In game 3, why isn’t nass removing an ice counter at the end of every turn? With urborg, depths is a swamp and can tap for black, giving him 3 to remove a counter every turn on end step.

Game one is called “legal rape”

Can someone explain to me what the game rule violation was for?

@Juggernuts

5 жыл бұрын

it was for playing atarkas command without legal targets, (the gravestone prevented targeting stryx in gy) and the violation was for to my understanding some dumb shit about opponent not calling out the fact the targets were illegal the moment it happened?

@ulfsaar2583

5 жыл бұрын

Kolaghan's Command was casted and he used the first mode and third mode, which was 'Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand' and 'Destroy target artifact'. Silent tombstone, which was the artifact, has a static ability where cards in graveyards cannot be targeted. So when Reid casted the Command, it was a game rule violation to take the Baleful Strix back because it was a illegal target

@cardsgamesandplay6778

5 жыл бұрын

@@Juggernuts it was stupid because reid explained that nass leaned in to look and they both didnt let the spell resolve. Soo nass shouldnt have gotten a failure to maintain game state since they didnt let the spell resolve. Dumb pedo judges.

@michaelsimoneau8364

5 жыл бұрын

in magic the gathering if you dont call out opponent error you are violating a rule of calling out opponent error. its simple the moment you get inside a event with DCI number you are a pro player and other pro player and judge expect the same from everyone so if you dont understand basic rule going into a tournament is legit dangerous for new player.

@cardsgamesandplay6778

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsimoneau8364 you watched it didnt you? There was almost no time in between reid casting k command and them realizing it wasnt a legal move for him to even call it out. He did mess up by putting the gravestone in the graveyard before pointing out that cards cant be targeted in graveyards lol. Wooops

Everyone here bashing the judge like they’re experts on CREL and the IPG, smh. It’s very simple. Reid committed a Game Rules Violation. Matt failed to catch the GRV, so he failed to maintain game state. Both receive warnings, but Matt’s is not upgradeable. Judge handled it perfectly.

Seems unduly heavy a punishment. I don't agree with the judge's call here. There was no arguement.

@MattPlaysRs

5 жыл бұрын

Likewise, I have cast a card in a similar way and was like oops, called a judge and the judge simply told me I can't cast the card so return it to my hand, after it had been revealed. At the very least, Matt getting a warning for that should not have happened.

@Rillant

5 жыл бұрын

@@MattPlaysRs Judge here, the judge in question just followed the Infraction Procedure Guide, a document that tells us judges exactly what to do with common errors during gameplay at competitive tournaments. Matt received a warning for failure to maintain game state (section 2.6 of the IPG) and Reid received a warning for a game rules violation (section 2.5 of the IPG). At this level of play, holding up the integrity of rulings is extremely important, either everyone gets a warning for failure to maintain game state or noone, there's no cherry picking. But as the judge said, those warnings cannot be upgraded (as in, when you commit them several times they can not be upgraded to a game loss), so it was just a warning to be official.

@iana3892

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rillant it would seem the issue isn’t the judge, but the procedure guide.

It's awesome to hear what the players are saying, but other than that, the audio was terrible, we don't need to hear every announce they make on the hall, and the commentators can be heard at all. That's terrible.

@spaceranger145

5 жыл бұрын

Su0T iN clearly you don't understand how microphones work

@su0tin731

5 жыл бұрын

Well, if you do, try and get hired by wizards for these events, because they clearly need someone with your expertise.

@spaceranger145

5 жыл бұрын

Su0T iN Yep, I got a degree in audio engineering, both players would need decent lav mikes but that would stop you from being able to hear the judge. CFB tried to hire me to work the GPs but I declined as I can't be in the same building as Rich Hagen because it would result in me going to prison for murdering the annoying overly opinionated fat fuck.

Pretty funny, Reid casts an illegal card, but the judge blames Matt. Why didn't he just choose another mode with the Command?

@ZakanaHachihaCBC

3 жыл бұрын

Reid got a Game Rule Violation because he cast the spell illegally. Matt got a Failure to Maintain Boardstate because he allowed Reid to cast the spell illegally and he wasn’t the one who called the judge on the illegal action.

@ethanicuscopernicus6758

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZakanaHachihaCBC but he didn't allow him to cast it, he caught the mistake right after he cast it, how the hell is he able to say, no you can't play that, before he even cast it?

@ZakanaHachihaCBC

3 жыл бұрын

@@ethanicuscopernicus6758 The mistake was caught after they resolved the spell. This is comfirmed by both players as Matt moved his Gravestone from the battlefield to the graveyard and Duke his Strix from the graveyard to his hand. Because Matt allowed the spell to be cast, and resolve, with illegal targets and didn’t call the judge on the error, he gets a Failure to Maintain warning.

@ethanicuscopernicus6758

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZakanaHachihaCBC in addition they could have just had him choose a different mode with Kargaths Command, since there's like 4 modes, why did they put it back in his hand? some amateur players/judge right here.

@ZakanaHachihaCBC

3 жыл бұрын

@@ethanicuscopernicus6758 The infraction was thé illegal casting of the K-Command, so the game was backed up to the point just before the infraction occurred. This is how it’s is outlined in the IPG.

Right... I played legacy at my local game store for a year. Literally 15% of games ended turn 1 or 2. Why is it always different when you watch these tournaments. Seems like Rochester NY has many hidden pros.

@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on a ton of things. The decks, the players, the knowledge of understanding sequencing, and the experience on how to deal with certain interactions in the game and of course if anyone misplace and if it gets caught.

Terrible judge

Reid duke should know what can and can’t be targeted, he’s won big money playing.

17:40 whats not legal??

@KyuseiFFXIV

5 жыл бұрын

Im xFate Reid targeted baleful strix that was in the graveyard while silent gravestone was still in play

@imxfate4530

5 жыл бұрын

@@KyuseiFFXIVdidn't see the stone also cheers 2month old comment

not sure why Turtenwald went for Snapcaster after the Stifle to run into Daze. I would have Dazed the Stifle and play just the StP to play around Daze. If that didnt work he still would have got Snapcaster later. He removes Mandrills but it made like 8 damahe to him so TNN came much stronger in the game. Crucial mistake.

8:41 Reid says it was a good game but it wasn't that good of game surely

Wait.. so if i don't catch my opponent making a mistake, i get punished too ? Both Matt and Reid handled the mistake well, but that judge kinda pissed me off lol.

Anyone notice Matt flicking Reid off the whole time lmao

@willco601

Жыл бұрын

except for Reid, of course...gotta ignore those extracurriculars

Turn 1 was disgusting. Poor Duke, I can feel the pain. I really hate that kind of plays/combo. At least Channel/Fireball combo back in the days ended things quickly.

Jesus this makes it seem super easy to get DQ’d from a tournament if you make two pretty easy to make mistakes... I realise someone could cheat by doing it on purpose but still...

@Tacttactification

3 жыл бұрын

It’s more likely to be a game loss if you only do two.

@frasert8779

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tacttactification Ah okay that makes sense I guess, is it difficult to get a DQ? Like it couldn’t reasonably happen from honest mistakes?

Matt's record is based on his skill. Not the deck. The deck is just straight bad. It has almost no consistency. Matt, really earned the 10-2 that got him here.

I feel for Reid. This is the worst match for his deck. Just bad is is awl

Skillless decks like Nass’ is the reason Legacy gets a bad rep. That and the reserve list.

@Mightypi

Жыл бұрын

Things like tin fins are real hard to play to it's full potential. Even more so in a field filled with free counter magic. I get it looks easy. But playing the deck out is hard In general, dedicated combo decks like this are substantially harder to play than any control deck.

From a player like Reid duke he made a kologhans command missplay game two? He lives in red black x decks The judge call on an honest mistake and they called a judge for the call Amateur pros

watch carefully at 43:55 + 3s , you won't regret it

So, Containment Priest actually DOES have applications here as more than just a flash-speed blocker; it can be used in response to a Delver of Secrets trigger to prevent the Insectile Aberration from entering the battlefield.

@AnonYmous-pl4rr

Жыл бұрын

Transform doesn’t make the creature leave play. You’re thinking of the Magic Origins planeswalkers, which it also doesn’t work on.

Fuck Eduardo is back. But it’s a Reid game so I have to watch. I’ll have to mute this one. I won’t hear Eduardo mispronounce every word known to man. “Deafrite shaman Feef of sanity Free cards in hand Foughtseize” I fink he’ll counter”

@rubenfigueiredo3458

Ай бұрын

It's been an absolute riot reading these seething remarks about the way some dude talks.

With as "professional" as these guys are, why can't they keep their shit organized...

The judge should not have given Nass a warning, silent gravestone is a relatively new card which Reid may have accidentally overlooked. I️ agree I️t was a mistake but Matt Nass handled the situation properly and the principle of the situation says he wouldn’t get a violation. The spell had not even “resolved” despite having no targets, meaning no time had elotted with respect to the game.

@andrewbowman2885

5 жыл бұрын

I️ agree Reid should get the warning though that isn’t what I️m saying

@andrebenoit404

5 жыл бұрын

I think everyone deserves a warning I dont think he did it on purpose.

@marccernele6109

5 жыл бұрын

You understand competitive play has rules that the judges follow right? This isn't a matter of your opinion

@andrewbowman2885

5 жыл бұрын

Marc Cernele is that directed at me? Because if so, yes, I️m fully aware of the fact that there are rules and regulations which the judges are required to Follow when making decisions. The fact of the matter is Matt Nass had not failed in maintaining the state of the game as the mistake was caught immediately and literally no time had elotted with respect to the game due to the spell still being on the stack. Therefore the ruling should be that Reid receive a warning and that’s it

@marccernele6109

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it's directed at you. The spell had fully resolved and it wasn't Matt that caught the error. The judges applied the rules correctly here in giving Matt a warning. Sorry, but "the fact of the matter" is, you're wrong.