Magic Johnson & Isiah Thomas went from best friends to enemies | Ep. 57 | CLUB SHAY SHAY
Shannon Sharpe sits down with Magic Johnson to discuss friends turning into enemies. Magic reveals his relationship with his former best friend Isiah Thomas was damaged after the Detroit Pistons met the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA Finals. Magic said: "It took us until just a few years ago to mend everything, but boy did we have some good times."
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Magic Johnson & Isiah Thomas went from best friends to enemies | Ep. 57 | CLUB SHAY SHAY
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@mcdiamond2463
Жыл бұрын
@Club Shay Shay i know exactly what the world wants to see. they want to see michael jordan on stone cold steve austin’s podcast. thats what the world wants to see
When Isiah and Magic cried together when they made up it was hard not to tear up. If you ever let pride and ego damage such a close relationship you could relate
@yo3rdtier128
Жыл бұрын
Wow.. old timer, I thought your generation was so much tougher than us? and your big crybaby self up there tearing up over a game
@ajp5616
Жыл бұрын
Not that serious lol
@bigben618
Жыл бұрын
They were lovers and friends 😬
@williammason1051
Жыл бұрын
@@bigben618 nah bruh.
@williammason1051
Жыл бұрын
@@ajp5616 to you I guess 🤷🏾♂️
Magic has a legitimate claim to being in the GOAT conversation. And I wouldn't be mad if some people called him the GOAT. His resume is one for the ages. And will stand the test of time. Finals MVP as a rookie....
@christwenty4twenty269
Жыл бұрын
AS A ROOKIE!!!
@statusboom-x6348
Жыл бұрын
@@christwenty4twenty269 FACTS!
@loganblack4885
Жыл бұрын
@@statusboom-x6348 Magic didn’t win finals mvp as rookie. Go back to school buddy boy 😂
@fusionn4316
Жыл бұрын
Can't be the GOAT when you're not elite on both sides of the court.
@LanceG007
Жыл бұрын
@@fusionn4316 not to mention he never won without Kareem
Magic gotta be cherished for being the ultimate open book.
They let pride and ego tear up a close relationship but they made up and cried tears of joy
I’m glad they repaired their relationship.
@midwestking100
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully jordan and Barkley will follow suit but I highly doubt it
@seanjoyce7039
Жыл бұрын
@@midwestking100 A 30/30 between those 2 would be epic.
The way their games contrast each other is awesome. It’s like comparing a prime Derrick rose to a prime steph curry. Zeke had the scoring, the midrange game, the handle and was a pin point passer in the half court and like to play off ball. Magic grabs the board, run down in transition, can make any pass going at speed, and uses his physical dominance to just get easy lay ups or post ups. Both team players and wizards but totally different style of play
@MakuArein
Жыл бұрын
What's amazing was he totally took over the team when Kareem got injured during the 80s Finals. He did it while he was only a rookie as well, played center like it was his natural position.
@2:50 this was legit the first time I heard it straight from Magic himself
@Dibbz_TV
Жыл бұрын
“Oh, I knew he wasn’t” lmao - got me too 😆
Magic is forever a class act!
@dandcdiecast2664
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
This was a great interview…..anytime Magic pointed while he was telling stories had me cracking up.
Shoutout to Majic for being a role model, he’s always been a uncle to me even tho I’ve never met em
Magic is such a legend man we Appreciate this so much Shannon 💯🙏🏾
Nobody: Uncle shay shay: why yall let that man in there? 😂
Thanks for Everything MR Magic Johnson for all your great Basketball skills n Eyes n back of your head making passes that just didn't fake out the players on the court but also the fans in the Stands Believe that 1000
Thank you Shannon for this platform. Please continue to shed light where there is darkness. Keep it up!
Two of my favorites and greatest to ever to do
One thing I always respected was Magic Johnson's compettive spirit. I have been watching him play since he was Sophomore year at Michigan State. The first time I saw him play, I knew he was special, but I wasn't sure if his style of play was transferable to the NBA level. It turns out that it was, mostly due to Magic Johnson ability to play multiple positions. In High School he played Center, but in college he played Point Guard, and his first year in the NBA he basically had to share point guard duties with Norm Nixon. But the Lakers sort of used Norm Nixon more like shooting guard even though he was only 6ft 2, which allowed he and Magic to stay on the court at the same time. In the 70s, the guard positions were more interchangeable than they are today. Both guards were able to bring the ball up the court and run the offense. But in today's NBA, most shooting guards do not have the skillset to play the point guard position, they are strictly shooters.
This interview candid af 🤣💯
@chilltrav9273
Жыл бұрын
"Oh, I knew he wasn't!"
@samgunz1
Жыл бұрын
@@chilltrav9273 right 🤣🤣
@chilltrav9273
Жыл бұрын
@@samgunz1 He was right too!lmao
Magic is one of the Goats in basketball. He took what pistol Pete did to another level and was Magic! Basically Kyrie but 6’10, and push the ball fast uptempo pace like never seen before or after. Those Lakers teams With Magic and James Worthy, Byron Scoot, Michael Cooper were fun to watch because of the style and grittiness and seeing Magic pass unbelievable assist with finishing strong at the basket.
@CLOWE-po2tx
Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯
Ladies and gentleman, Earvin (Magic) Johnson is a classy guy. 🖤👽
jordan was cool back in the days but magic was the the guy to watch if you wanna see special tricks special passes special things.. in terms of player he was one of a kind
@17thNO
Жыл бұрын
True
Magic is one if the coolest brothas to ever exist
Great interview
This is amazing 💯💯💯💯💯💯💪🔥
Magic keeps getting younger WITH every year that passes by.
@stuartperry8141
Жыл бұрын
?
@leir2005
Жыл бұрын
He also gets richer with every year that passes the guy is one of the most brilliant businessmen on the planet
@Vito_Caligiuri
Жыл бұрын
I just want it to be put to rest that he never actually had HIV. But the disease needed a face, and he got manipulated/blackmailed into being it.
@thisismarkbro
Жыл бұрын
@@Vito_Caligiuri what makes you that ?
@Vito_Caligiuri
Жыл бұрын
@@thisismarkbro I bring that up because the original comment was how young Magic still looks. There’s a conspiracy that Magic doesn’t have HIV, nor did he ever have it.
Competition is what drove them apart in also a ugly rumour.
Magic never thought Isiah would get to the championship level while Magic was in his prime winning. It'll be his turn when I'm done. Isiah snuck up on him.
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
Not for a phantom call by the refs Pistons would have won a 3 or 4 peat.
IN LIFE MAGIC IS THE GOAT !!!
Magic and Isiah made up and let the past go but it will never be the same again, you can see that.
Pistons should have had a 3 peat
@DESimmons357
Жыл бұрын
YES!!!!! My soul still hurts about 1988 Finals game 7.
@spencerhammer5870
Жыл бұрын
Technically it was a foul on Laimbeer. Should they have called it? No.
@gm0n3y718
Жыл бұрын
@@spencerhammer5870 no it wasn’t bill didn’t touch Kareem
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
@@DESimmons357 It was actually game 6 Isiah hurt his ankle that game & could not play in game 7
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
akvalues if not for that bad pass vs boston Piston might have had a 4 peat
BAD BOYS!
Ppl freaked out cause Lebron and draymond dapped each other up on the court. If Lebron kissed draymond everyone would be literally killing him 😂
@kingkoopa654
Жыл бұрын
You HAD to make this about Lebron? Lay off the Soy & hop off that man 🥜
@KtotheG
Жыл бұрын
Are Lebron and Draymond best friends?
@derrickperry7705
Жыл бұрын
@@KtotheG yeah
@Jinz3
Жыл бұрын
@@KtotheG pretty good friends
@KtotheG
Жыл бұрын
@@derrickperry7705 Oh ok... thanks.
lmao luke walton turned in to the villain
Shannon we need you to bring Dr J on you show. Please!
I wanted to hear Magic explain what exactly he regretted about things with Zeke. Based on what he said, I wonder what other direction he would've taken it if he had a do over.
@CashCollecta
Жыл бұрын
Probably from his book he released 13 years ago where he accused zeke of spreading rumors about his sexuality when he came out as hiv positive
I loved both of these guys, but please keep this in mind you hear how tough it was back then. When you hear how much they hated each other back then and today's players get along to well. These two use to kiss each other on the cheek before they went after it. I am not complaining about it just stating a fact.
@boxingandbulldogs6341
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but when push came to shove, the friendship had to end! Magic knew that and ultimately Isiah did too. You'd never see that today. These guys put their friendships before everything else.
@kawaiiafangirl
Жыл бұрын
Facts. Wilt and Bill Russell used to have dinner w/ either one of their mothers when the other came to town to play also. Jordan was obviously friendly w/ Charles Barkley and also Ewing and Oakley.
@FireAngelChris
Жыл бұрын
Lol so happy Players today never did this goofy stuff also it was plenty of f friends that competed back then that was still friends just like today.
Still the 👑💯💯
Magic Johnson is the GOAT
This whole time, I never knew Magic and IT had a fractured relationship until a couple of years ago. I thought they were friends the entire time just like they were in the 80s.
@TheHiLiteShow7
Жыл бұрын
Isaiah seems like he’s an abrasive personality behind the scenes
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
@@TheHiLiteShow7 It was Magic that went away from Isiah because of the false accusations Isiah was accused of with Magic's HIV. I really believe it was Jordan that started those rumors. Because when it happened Jordan swooped in to try to be best buddies with Magic. Not many will say it but Jordan away from basketball was a POS human being.
@Ben2bwild
Жыл бұрын
@@TheHiLiteShow7 He is. My cousin worked for him when he was in New York. He fools a lot of ppl with that smile and soft speaking voice
@CLOWE-po2tx
Жыл бұрын
Old Skool Southside of Chicago 🤷🏾♂️
Is a championship worth more than a true friendship?
@BG-mn6di
Жыл бұрын
In the moment one would probably feel that way but in the long run nah 💯
Magic- politician. Jordan- Tyrant. Bird- warrior. Zeke- leader.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Friends til the Rnd
Coach Pat Riley planted that devisive seed and kept the plant watered all those years the two men lost.But being team players the public will never hear an admission from either man😮😮😮
Why’d you step down? Rob Pelinka. WE ALL SEE NOW MAGIC
It's crazy cause the Lakers ended up doing just that 🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣
Wait… did magic just say he only had one dude? 😂
@KtotheG
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know... messed up... all of those guys were important. Michael Cooper was their Robert Horry or Toni Kukoc. James Worthy was his Pippen. Kareem was Kareem. He needed all of those guys.
@JimmyMacram
Жыл бұрын
@@KtotheG That's not what he's talking about. When he says "team" in this context, he means a management team or an entourage. Meanwhile, he had only one dude around him.
@awill891
Жыл бұрын
He meant now that all players and teams have huge crews of agents/brand reps/social media managers/etc it's harder to bring a player of an "enemy" team to his crew like he did with Isiah back then. He was saying he only had 1 dude in his entourage.
@KtotheG
Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyMacram Oh ok.
Ervin didn't fight for Isaiah to be on the Dream Team.
Luke Walton had that coaching job simply because of who he was related to.. dude was terrible as a player and even worse as a coach. Magic knew that, as everybody else.
@rooseveltdarbey9493
Жыл бұрын
Decent player but your right terrible coach. Was overrated because of his assistant coach job of the warriors.
They didn't have to go at it. People drove that rivalry. Its just a game.
Happy magic finally confirmed what we already knew. Rob was tryna block his moves thinking he could do better, magic let him and now we see where we are
2:55
I'm so glad Magic and Isiah made up. I just wish Isiah would have made the Dream Team. I think everyone knew Zeke would have stole the show. His game was tailor-made for olympic basketball. He would've played like Curly Neal.
"Man we had some good times. What a great training partner"...... On and off the court in guessing lol
I haven't heard Luke Walton name as a couch since he left LA 😂
@bodeezy78
Жыл бұрын
Didn't he go to Sacramento
@BigDilf3
Жыл бұрын
@@bodeezy78 definitely was in Sacramento right after some people just slow
@Bee-lieve623
Жыл бұрын
Couch?
This whole interview is just another extension of hulu's Legacy: The true story of LA Lakers...
Jordan spoke during the last dance but Jordan does not speak on Thomas…..
Isaiah got a bad relationship with everyone. Jordan, bird, magic. Etc
@christaggart5687
Жыл бұрын
Three people who were groupies IT had plenty of friends
@marvinkey6047
Жыл бұрын
The only person out of those 3 that's still in their feelings is Jordan. Larry bird hired isaiah as coach
@christaggart5687
Жыл бұрын
@@marvinkey6047 Jordan is so petty. He still hates Chuck for doing his job
Zeke took down bird magic and jordan. Put him in the conversation
You know what's sick about all that Magic/Isiah thing is the teammates of Magic put him in a position to do that along with coach Riley.... Why would you even put your captain in a position to do that? See, that shows you, what?... The Lakers tried to take out Thomas; just like the media talks about how the Pistons played rough against Jordan... so everyone was doing that back then, just like what the Lakers did vs. the Celtics -- that's what Isiah Thomas was talking about when he spoke about Jordan and how EVERYONE played like that back in the 80's to win titles, Jordan wasn't special in that regard.
Isaiah Thomas is a very emotional dude lol
Something doesn’t add up. Luke’s last season in LA was 2019, same as Magic’s.
He ran with one dude... humm who could it be? Mcadoo? Wilkes? Thompson? Cooper? Kareem? Worthy? Scott? AC?
I don't understand why LeBron needed to know beforehand that Magic was stepping down from the Lakers.
If only shannon doesnt talk after evey sentence
So did the older players befriend opposing players or not? They always talk about how you couldn’t be buddy buddy but they WERE.
@maelguiraud3568
Жыл бұрын
its just the hypocrisy
Once he had dinner with Larry Bird's mom no more being friends with Isaiah!
That picture is super alphabet and the fact that both of their kids grew up alphabet is even more sus
@californiachief27x
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ChrisHoward141
Жыл бұрын
This comment is hilarious🤣 the way you put that statement is goated bro👌
Magic said he played with one dude? Must be talking about James Worthy, that’s the only name I can think of
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
No he meant who he hung out with away from basketball. That is why before that they talked about how players today have a whole crew around them.
After seeing some of these stories I am beginning to feel isiah was and is still a bitter person that holds grudges easily
Why did Isaiah think magic wasn’t going to do his job? That’s odd and why get mad because magic did his job? There should have been a talk first so there was an understanding what would happen on the court.
1:32 🥶
wait a minute skipp an them old head will tell you no one was friends back then an would never help each other or talk off the court
@bowmanencore
Жыл бұрын
In the old days, every player shot his enemy. Kids these days won’t even use knives!
So what broke their friendship lol?
Shannon and these guys today would have cried racism smh Magic is old school he said we brothers and sisters, that’s the America I miss , unk could could learn alot from magic, a whole lot
Some of these old heads try to act as if back in the days the players didn’t have genuine friendships with others in opposing teams. That’s a big lie.
@maddoxalucard6587
Жыл бұрын
That’s not true at all…a lot of these players say they had friendships off the court but they hated each other on the court They just didn’t wanna play on the same team because they wanted to be the best and beat the best
Luke Walton won’t coach again in NBA after these interview 💯
What about al the 5hit when magic got H1V disgraceful what he was saying bout his “friend” must have broke magics heart. 🇵🇰🇬🇧
Isaiah was okay until he beat you. Jordan hates Isaiah because Isaiah beat him. They hate that little man for embarrassing them. At least Bird ain't hatin
@Amick44
Жыл бұрын
Isiah hated them for beating him.
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
@@Amick44 Actually Isiah is the only person who has a winning record vs all 3 of Bird, Magic & Jordan. He got the better of them more than they got the better of him
@BoskoShabazz
Жыл бұрын
Bird was a hater too. Immediately fired him as coach once he became president of basketball operations with the Pacers
@mkg5048
Жыл бұрын
Thomas wasn't playing basketball that's the problem. He was out there orchestrating UFC like plays lol, everyone attacked that man lol
@grav9992
Жыл бұрын
@@mkg5048 false, the idea that they just fouled their way into 3 straight finals is just silly. But okay, those Pistons teams averaged 100 a game by making dirty layups. In fact, why didn't Jordan just make them not score???? He's Jordan and everything you people say. What happened to all that will to win and killer instinct jargon???? Guess that only came into play in the expansion era
Magic had 11 hof players on his team at one point. You deff didnt run with one dude
@williammatthews7252
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@DreMurf313
Жыл бұрын
He was speaking about "off the court"
@kodeypouncey1969
Жыл бұрын
@@DreMurf313 no he wasnt
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
@@kodeypouncey1969 Yes he was speaking off the court. Just before he said that they talked about how players today have a whole crew around them. This is how us older people talk.
@kodeypouncey1969
Жыл бұрын
@@BBBYpsi that was ur interpretation and i have mine. Respectfully get off my nuts now thank you.
He was right luke wasn’t the guy they got rid of him like magic said
It appears apparent that Magic didn't call LBJ was because LBJ wanted to keep the coach.
@Theinsideoutsider
Жыл бұрын
Nah. Prob cuz he left in a hurry (likely upset) and made the move without thinking clearly
That dude that wanted seat was who. Just say it leGM
I ran with 1 dude 🤣🤣🤣 magic had literally a team full of legends
@jr_484
Жыл бұрын
he was talking about agents/advisors dude
@BBBYpsi
Жыл бұрын
He was talking about person to hang out with
Magic and Isiah had some “good times.” 😉 Lovers and friends……
@Dapame
Жыл бұрын
And who said that?
@iam_whole_e
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@JayNero777
Жыл бұрын
y'all niggas so weird
@DreDAWhite
Жыл бұрын
😑 he said room then switched to lobby real quick 😂😂😂
Maybe players didnt like Isiah cause he kissed other guys like in that pic for this video.
Rob Lowe was low down and derty!
I wonder do Thomas know how magic got HIV and will never speak on it. I’m sure once magic pass away it will come out. Not wishing that on him at all.
Isaiah hurts to say, has done a lot of snake and foul stuff. Started with Michael Jordan in his rookie year, Mike looked up to him and after pretending he would help snaked him. He turned on Magic and did some Suspect things with the Knicks. He was a great player but from his past actions don't seem like a good dude.
Magic ..why not talk about the fact that you were HORRIBLE as a GM which is why you really stepped down. Look at the players you traded away some great players who are major contributors on other teams now. Also some really Dumb draft picks. He took a pass on Jason Tatum and Dearron Fox.....WOW! he took Lozon Ball over Foxx(what a mistake) and Ingram over Tatum..another mistake. So NO Magic...you are one of my favorite Laker players......but as a GM you were TERRIBLE!
@FlyAwayChi
Жыл бұрын
what are you talking about? Brandon Ingram and Jayson Tatum were not from the same draft... Ingram was drafted a year before Tatum
I don't trust isaiah thomas,,he is a two faces
Magic and Isiah be all kissing each other on the court in front of thousands of people. Did anyone else find that disturbing?
@DreMurf313
Жыл бұрын
STOP IT!! You act like they were tonging each other down!! LMFAO🤣
Magic realized he deserved better friends than Isaiah
Those 2 are lovers . No cap.
I think Magic and Isiah had something else going on.
@rafaeldeanza
Жыл бұрын
Like what?
Magic don’t have to call Lebron. Lebron ain’t signing his checks.
Btw that magic and isaiah relationship was SUS!!!!!!!
Everyone knows the REAL reason magic and isiah fell out.
@jasonreyes5767
Жыл бұрын
Dream team?
@young6api506
Жыл бұрын
👀?
@NYCHB
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonreyes5767 na is report idk if true Thomas said that magic got HIV u know from men so I think that broke the real relationship but idk that wat see
@EnterpriseNCC-1701
Жыл бұрын
That second finals they had versus each other tore them apart.
@keithbperrin9633
Жыл бұрын
@@NYCHB he did say that on a radio interview...kinda inferred it but didnt go all the way..more of an ..welllllll I dont know what they doing out there in l.a.....it was a stupid thing to say...and i love the great Isaiah Thomas