"Men like watching well-made superhero movies, so lets make terrible superhero movies and pretend they're for everyone but especially for women" - flawless thinking

@steelfoe

3 ай бұрын

I think if it was directed by Sam Raimi and co star Bruce Campbell it would have been perfect. This movie was begging for Some horror camp

@zt7044

3 ай бұрын

​@@steelfoe you just want spoof movies to come back (understandably)

@The_Primary_Axiom

3 ай бұрын

These are just the results of your company being captured by far left ideologues. From execs, to managers, employees to the janitors. You saw what happened with googles AI right ? Well that’s what happens when your entire company from the floor up is full of far left woke ideologue hires. When that happens, it’s very hard to turn it around. What is a company like Disney going to do, fire everybody and change their hiring practices ? Never. They are the ones that created, pushed and embraced this mind virus.

I'm a female comic book fan. I have been for more than 20 years. I like my superhero comics and movies the way they were. I don't want them changed to make them more female friendly. I feel insulted when a bunch of Hollywood execs tell me what I, as a woman, should like. Thank you for putting that out there for me and all the female superhero fans who want Marvel and Sony to go back to what works and what we already liked.

@barriolimbas

3 ай бұрын

Female friendly for female comic fans escapes these creatives. Never mind making it for everyone to enjoy.

@NIGHTMARE-zy7tq

3 ай бұрын

And ones that they are not fans or know the heroes..

@mariellescritique3544

3 ай бұрын

I Love ur Comment. 😊💜

@RedBearNAaron

3 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! We need all of our Female Comic/Super Hero/Heroine fans like you to continue telling these goofballs this. Modern Media is so trash nowadays. But I'm glad we're all still the same. Hold the line, I guess.

You're 41 years old? Awesome! You sound so much younger! Finally, a KZreadr who isn't in their late 20s.

@ridensroom6957

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. I'm 38 and it's nice to see an early 80s guy

@clogs4956

3 ай бұрын

I’m a Paul Chato fan. He speaks for my generation…

@TheSuperappelflap

3 ай бұрын

I seriously thought he was like 25. Amazing voice for a man at that age.

The studio should hire you. Your version of what could have been sound much better than what we actually got.

@BrakSplash

3 ай бұрын

That's probably not a good idea. Saying what you think on KZread videos is far different than actually writing and directing multimillion dollar films.

@chrisbaker8533

3 ай бұрын

@@BrakSplash It's called an 'advisor', you call out the stupid when you see it.

@BrakSplash

3 ай бұрын

@chrisbaker8533 I gotcha. I'm pretty sure they already have those. But the Director can simply ignore the advisor's... advice... if they choose to during filming. JSG probably wouldn't make any difference playing the advisor, but it would pretty cool to see for bragging rights

@rogerhalt3991

3 ай бұрын

Of course there are better ideas. If the vast majority of us worked there, we would be fired for ‘not aligning with modern ideologies’

@BrakSplash

3 ай бұрын

@rogerhalt3991 or because our ideas are just plain terrible. It's far too easy to critique something already made and say that you can do it better than make your own film like Madame Web tried to do.

Anyone else felt like JSG sounds like he’s in his 20’s when he says he’s 41?

@marsjokes

3 ай бұрын

I didn't even here the part he mentioned his age and I still think he's in his 20s 😅

@clogs4956

3 ай бұрын

I’m 63. I’ve lost count of the times people on the phone assume I’m in my 20s… and people meeting me for the first time usually decide I’m in my mid-40s. It’s very flattering, but it’s hell trying to get age-related concessions.

@jamesnave1249

3 ай бұрын

100%

@TheSuperappelflap

3 ай бұрын

yes

@animestyle92

2 ай бұрын

Yeah what he said he was 41 I was shocked I thought he was around 19 to 23

The MCU is like a great restaurant's signature Italian dish... But they replaced the ingredients that made it good, one by one, opting to make it vegan, gluten free, and lactose free, without changing price, and with a sauce that seems suspiciously like it was bought at Kroger. And then being confused why it not only doesn't sell, but why customers generally aren't coming in. Get back to the good recipe and the right ingredients and maybe people will come back.

@zibix4562

3 ай бұрын

That is generally what happens

@zionleach3001

3 ай бұрын

Plus if the food was just awful and if you complained the people who have no taste and the one's who cooked say your the problem. 99.9% would go to the small business and ethnic restaurants.

@AdamWeisshaupt

3 ай бұрын

That is also a similar analogy that Justsomeguy always makes in his videos 👍😀.

@charliedulin

3 ай бұрын

This is Sony, not MCU.

@floxy20

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget the cardboard pizza dough. Yum yum.

How funny would it be if we all memed on Madam Web in 6 months and managed to trick Sony into thinking there's a huge audience just waiting to watch it ironically, this time, and got them to pull another Morbius-style re-release to empty theaters?

@narendrajangir7144

3 ай бұрын

They can't be that dumb. Can they?

@originaldarkwater

3 ай бұрын

@@narendrajangir7144 Probably not, but I can dream! 😂

@zionleach3001

3 ай бұрын

Please not again. The memes were so cringy. Like they all had strokes from watching it.

@narendrajangir7144

3 ай бұрын

@@zionleach3001 setting cringe aside Sony truly deserve this.

@zionleach3001

3 ай бұрын

@@narendrajangir7144 Hopefully 'marvel jesus' will save the MCU. They already cancelled the Blade reboot. As much as Netflix likes making bad to plain awful decisions. They've released shows with female MC's that a majority of people like.

Ah yes the movie everyone asked for

I don't want them even touching Black Cat/Silver Sable anymore!

@georgedevries3992

3 ай бұрын

Oh, but they will! Nothing is off the table for the forces of Chaos.

@yuho675tyco4

3 ай бұрын

God forbid

@georgedevries3992

3 ай бұрын

@@yuho675tyco4 Jokes on you because there are no gods. Only Science, Logic and Reason.

@clogs4956

3 ай бұрын

@@georgedevries3992If you see Science, Logic and Reason, tell them to come home; I miss them.

@georgedevries3992

3 ай бұрын

@@clogs4956 I will, cause I am with them all the time. Remember the teachings of the Emperor!

The most surprising thing about this news is that your 41.

They thought they could Furiosa the Marvel universe, while understanding absolutely notbing about what made Furiosa such a popular addition to the Mad Max universe (hint: it wasn't because women, or men, wanted or needed to see a female lead in that universe.)

@PumpkinSwag

3 ай бұрын

You hit the nail on the head. As MM: Fury Road proves, the problem isn't adding women leads in and of itself. The problem is writing it in a different way to appeal to an audience who the movie is simply not for, feminists, while making it appeal less to non-feminists. Most female moviegoers aren't wishing superhero movies cater to them. They're just not interested in watching them most of the time. Even when they are, it's for reasons other than "strong female character I can see myself in."

@TheSuperappelflap

3 ай бұрын

Idk I didnt go see Fury Road either, we had 3 mad max movies in their time and I wasnt interested in a sequel 20 or 30 years later. But it did well so I guess it was nice for anyone interested in it.

i didn’t know you were 41?!?!

This movie looked like something they just threw together because they have to make a Spiderman movie every so many years to keep the license.

@theevermind

3 ай бұрын

"Just threw together" over 10 yr.

you are 41?!

@heypistolero

3 ай бұрын

That's why his content is good.

1:45 Tbh they might be right. The bar for super heroes hasn’t been this low since Batnipples and Catwoman.

@sianais

3 ай бұрын

It's lower than that. I actually can enjoy Catwoman for the laughs and cringe while this recent mess is just meh or sad (not sad movie sad, but pathetic sad.)

@TheSuperappelflap

3 ай бұрын

At least back then the movies were camp. Now they are just bad. Not in a good way. I have seen Morbius. On Netflix. Im not going to see this. Not even for free on someone else's subscription or through...other means. Im just not going to watch it.

@orozcodavid101

2 ай бұрын

Nah sony has been dropping the ball with all super hero movies. Remember recent morpheus? so bad it became a meme. The last okay stand alone Sony super hero live action was probably venom, and even that was not very good.

@rammisalami

2 ай бұрын

@@orozcodavid101 I was just gunna say and Venom was not it lmao

this is my surprised face: - __ -

This would only count as a "disaster" if Sony actually wanted anyone to go see this

Weekends last 6 days now you know.

@marsjokes

3 ай бұрын

That'd be the dream. Coming in to work once a week? That'd be the dream.

Just like a large percentage of the male audience of romcoms are guys going to see a movie with the girl they like, not to see the movie itself, a large percentage of the women going to see superhero movies are doing so because the guy they like wants to see it. So unless the total budget is 10-20 million, you will never see a profit on a superhero movie made for girls and young women.

@cck4863

3 ай бұрын

This kind of show shouldn't have any budget higher than 50 million. But this Hollywood, they have some strange ability to spend lot amount of money they don't have on simple looking movie.

@TheSuperappelflap

3 ай бұрын

If they made a movie that was actually good, men and women would both want to see it. The core issue isnt that its made for women or whatever. That is an issue, but the core issue is that every time they try to pander to women, the movie is bad.

@ravenshrike

3 ай бұрын

See it? Sure. See it to the tune of 100 million plus in sales which is what a 50m dollar movie budget needs? Doubtful. @@TheSuperappelflap

Sony keeps forgetting the lessons they where supposed to learn with the amazing spiderman 2

By now the argument that "we need more women" in positions of power in the movie industry (instead of more talented people regardless of gender) has showed us how wrong that that statement is!

@omgjimmyboy

3 ай бұрын

Nah just men.

@handroids1981

3 ай бұрын

Movie industry? That went from 92% of American Entertainment production to 56% in less than ten years? Imagine that across every Western Economy. Financial collapse? That's a nice way of putting it. Now factor in Emergency Services, Military and Government. Oh yeah, demographic collapse too.

@cck4863

3 ай бұрын

It is not that hard to get some trans women to write a better story that this one. The reason for shitty writing is they want the narrative FIRST, everything else last. Those trans women they hired are just target board to further play their narrative.

@sianais

3 ай бұрын

Ironically, the women who want to be pushed ahead based on sex are going to be the least talented women in the pool of available women. So they're not helping the women who already earned their place but padding the numbers with the most incompetent of the bunch. It's a shitty move that undercuts progress and reinforces stigmas. Same when it's done with race, etc.

@clogs4956

3 ай бұрын

You saw the Disney and Amazon DIE requirements? Our scaly masters demand minorities have more opportunities than anyone else, even women. If corrupted courts says that kind of thinking is good to go, watch this space…

I never saw an advertisement for this movie, and having heard a synopsis, this doesn't sound like a movie I would want to watch.

The Web connects us all

I havent seen these sites or the studio blame men for this movie failing which is a pleasant surprise. Even still, i struggle to understand this hard push to market these movies to a new audience. At first glance its easy to grasp. Appealing to more people means more money. The problem is these studios always seem to assume that the already existing audience is a given. They never consider that changing things or getting rid of things that the existing audience likes in favor of a pitential new audience, then they can, and likely will, leave

Tucker and Dale vs Evil. You can argue it's a slasher movie romcom. JSG is right. His analogy of making a horror slasher movie into a romcom works well. Just like others have said making a Barbie movie to appeal to boys is ridiculous and not expected. My point is taking a different take on a genre, mixing genre, or reformatting it for a different audience can work. However in order to do that you need to have a clear vision of what the film is. The leadership needs to be competent at very least. Have a high understanding of the genres, and elements involved. An understanding of why particular demographics enjoy their respective genres. This is hard to do. It's why there are not a lot of Tucker and Dale movies out there. The people working for Sony, and Disney, completely lack the ability to make a basic good enough film for any genre.

@jacobdill4499

21 күн бұрын

Tucker & Dale is also a satire which helps.

People take an exception (Joker) and want to make a rule out of it... it's pretty clear why the exception is exceptional.

I work the Box Office at a movie theater. The new line up for this Friday's films was released. I looked at the schedule before leaving.... We're already dropping MADAME WEBB.

Fun fact: There is no "Superhero fatigue" there is only a "The Message" first entertainment does not matter issue. maybe if enough dollars are burned the "for modern audiance" phase of bad writing will be done and gone.

Slasher films into romcoms...in all the video I've seen on the topic of modern movies and the state of things,and this is the first time I've heard that analogy. Great point. got you a sub!

Another thing they made them older than Peter. All the "Spider-Women" save for Madame Web are younger than him and were inspired by him. Maddie was a fan of his and got her powers from a ritual performed by Norman Osborn. She originally didn't even have spider-like powers. But chose a spider-themed identity because she liked Spider-Man.The ability to Wall crawl and her spider legs were added at a later point.

@theevermind

3 ай бұрын

Prequels change the past to recontextualize the original. You don't watch Star Wars the same after seeing Anakin fall in Ep 1-3. If they make these the 'original' characters, then Peter Parker becomes the copycat. The girls were the real heroes all along. A man took credit for a woman's work. Etc.

True to his form Spiderman can't get a break

@charliedulin

3 ай бұрын

Spider-Man. He's feels insulted when he hears you not using the hyphen.

OH what tangled webs they weave. So tangled it was it tripped itself up and missed its window, right into a wall, at terminal velocity.

Usually so bad they're good movies are campy, low budget affairs that have some level of self awareness. Most of the big budget flops don't have that self awareness that they aren't the next best thing, so they're just simply bad and frustrating to watch.

PPS: For the record, I love Madam Web. I love her wisdom, her wit and her character. This movie did not do her justice.

I want to see it. I wont be paying for it, but I really want to see it

4:44 I'd have been perfectly willing to see a movie with every Spider-Girl/Woman crammed into it...but the thing is, two of the Spider-Girls/Women in the film looked so different from their comic forms I didn't even recognize their costumes, and the third one looks like a subpar rendering of one I recognized, _and_ they changed her last name for no apparent reason, which takes my trust that the movie will treat the characters with any kind of care*, which was already in the toilet, and flushes it down with some Liquid Plumr. *I've been hunting around for the right word for awhile...what's the antonym for "flippant" or "irreverent," in the context of an artistic adaptation? It SEEMS like there should be one, but I keep drawing a blank.

@thatHARVguy

3 ай бұрын

Julia Carpenter is her *married* name. It also doesn't help that the main reasons for the male/bi/lesbian audience to see Sydney Sweeney were strapped down, never to be seen.

@ranchoth

3 ай бұрын

@@thatHARVguy Fair enough on the name...although that also means, as a result, it's a version of the character from _long_ before she did anything of note in her comics career or it's immediate pre-origin setup. I mean, there's "origin story," and there's "Luke Skywalker: five year old assistant farmhand." (Okay, I'm being just a teeeensy bit unfair. ;) )

@thatHARVguy

3 ай бұрын

@@ranchoth No no, totally fair. Madame Web was a total mess and didn't need to exist.

How is the director still being employed. 😆

@zionleach3001

3 ай бұрын

*Dude made Morbius and The Last Witch Hunter. A okay-ish urban fantasy movie and a garbage movie. * Nevermind that's someone else who worked on it.

@themadmattster9647

3 ай бұрын

She(?) is just a tool. None of these films really have “directors” in the traditional sense of the term, more technicians

Why did this fail? First, who asked for it in the first place; second - she's a hero that no one outside of really, really hardcore comic people would know of. I myself only ever saw her in the 90's cartoon. Where she's an old, crippled woman, who somehow was in the same realm as the Beyonder when Spiderman went time hopping trying to get MJ back. In the show her powers were "clairvoyance" she never actually displayed, and nebulous otherwise. I lumped her in on the Beyonder's level - and was probably wrong to in the first place but I was younger - because it seemed possible to my kid brain. Add to that she's not even got a "heroic" super power. She "saved" the three young women by going over what would happen again and again, until she got it right. (Most clairvoyants actually can't change the future = rather like Cassandra in Greek Myth; who was cursed by Apollo to always be right, but no one would believe her) so you could argue the point that her power is actually to change the future she sees. Still not that great a power. So she's not really a "Super" hero. She's like Batman that way. He's technically not Superpowered and thus not a "super" hero. He's a paragon as a Hero, an example of the best one can be, so arguably a champion/elite level but still JUST a Hero. At least his story arc and ability to overcome actually powered individuals with tech and brains makes him interesting. She's a hero to three women we never met in her storyline in the comics (which borks canon so it'd piss off anyone that knew these characters in the first place for being jarring) and is noted in a cartoon for being an ominous, know it all character who wasn't even reliably there to help Spiderman. It also tries badly to tie in Mary Parker and Pete as a baby, just to stitch together some cred in what's said to be it's own stand alone universe. You can't have it both ways. Pick one. At least by the end, in a movie where all she does is play brave Sir Robin, she ends up not able to use her legs. So I guess she's fucked for the next time. No matter which future she sees about a sequel. I'm not surprised the numbers were low; I'm surprised they weren't lower.

I haven't heard anyone say, "You should go watch this movie." For any movie in a long, long time now. Or quote any line from any modern movie either... That's how you know it's been bad.

tfw JSG is in his 40s, and you remember him being a young lad, running around wearing that blue mask :sad_pepe:

They should have introduced Madame Webb in a Spider-Man movie

@DarkPhoenixSaga

3 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. In the 90's Spiderman cartoon, Madam Web was a blind elderly paralyzed clairvoyant who guided Peter by giving him advice. She never did any physical superhero stuff. She should be in a Spiderman movie played by Helen Mirren. She never should of been in her own movie which clearly bombed.

Your line about rushing things to make a franchise is basically what happened with the Universal monsters. They released The Mummy, but they added Jekyll/Hyde AND a secret society kinda like SHIELD, not as teases for the next movies but as major parts of the Mummy movie, because EITHER they thought a Mummy story on its own wouldn't work, despite 3 successful movies and a spinoff, OR they thought Tom Cruise couldn't carry the movie on his own. And what we got was a mess of a movie which strangled the franchise in its crib. It sounds like Madame Web shoud've been called "Spider-Women" or, as you suggested, focused on ONE character.

I think it is bad movie fatigue.

@brady50429

3 ай бұрын

And forced dei!

@orozcodavid101

2 ай бұрын

@@brady50429 womp womp, "forced dei" thats such an overplayed statement. It has nothing to do with "dei" or "wokeness", it was just a bad movie.

Madame Mojo.

WTF is the idea behind giving us a cast of attractive women and then NOT putting them in form-fitting superhero outfits the entire time!?!?! It's like some sick kind of joke! At least we Johnson and Sweeney dressed up nice for the premiere.

@marsjokes

3 ай бұрын

They probably did that on purpose. To try attract the male audience

@sianais

3 ай бұрын

​@@marsjokesBut why not on film! Women like watching pretty women too! Instagram exists because of that! Women like pretty things! We like hot things! Women like attractive women too, by majority!

I will say here that I personally really liked this movie. Not saying that there weren’t things to improve but I did have a very good time with this one. When it becomes easy to see it on a subscription service I plan to watch it again. I know that is the unpopular opinion but I wanted to shout into the void to let people know there are some people who liked this movie

There isn't superhero fatigue so much as there is woke fatigue. Men, in particular, are tired of wasting their money on movies that weren't "made for them". Nobody wants to spend two hours being scolded. People are sick and tired of movies that were made by people who hate the source material and actively mock the potential audience. Want proof, consider. As of December 2023, some estimate that Disney has lost between $1.3 billion and $1.4 billion in theaters in 2023 alone. That is almost enough to wipe out the profits from Avatar 2, No Way Home, and Endgame combined. This trend shows no sign of changing in 2024.

@jeremymott

3 ай бұрын

Agreed I would watch a marvel movie if it didn't go woke

Who is betting more men turn out to see this than women (like they did for The Marvels which had around a 60:40 split), yet men will still get blamed for it's failure.

Hey, don’t know what the video is about but I wanted to encourage you to keep calling out conservatives. Sound biased right? Nah, I’m conservative and you have made me think about at least 3 concepts I had. Thank you as a true fan of super hero fantasy.

I still don't think it's "superhero fatigue". I think it's "we're tired of shitty, poorly written bad tumbler fan fic directed by somebody who's only experience is dancing in the tickety tock videos." come up with good, well written stories, with smart well developed characters and a plot that doesn't bite rocks on the bottom of the ocean. This will require experienced writers and directors with more qualifications than how many boxes they can check. You can't write smart characters if you're IQ is lower than your resting heartrate.

@thatHARVguy

3 ай бұрын

Nicholas Meyer wasn't a Star Trek fan. During his research, he figured out what the fans found appealing and how to appeal to non-fans. He was respectful of the source material and the audience. You know, a professional.

i love the part where she said “im woman spider Man” and shot a web and flew away.

They keep calling it a superhero title Yet there was no super and no heroing

The sad thing is... at one time, medias that featured obscure superheroes were great! The real problem is that writers are not focusing on writing a great story anymore about a character who just is "____". They want to make everything about little details where the whole point is that these little details do NOT matter. PS: We need to drop the "modern audience" mentality. Instead, let's focus on the audience and love them the way they deserve to be.

We have bad movie fatigue

56 million over what a 6 day weekend box office

Just left the Theater from seeing Madame Web. It's marketed as a Theater release movie, but it comes off as a movie length pilot episode for a TV series. I was expecting to see at the end "Madame Web Every Wednesday at 8pm on NBC"

@Kevin_Street

3 ай бұрын

Just before Knight Rider.

Sydney Sweeney was the only reason to see this movie.

It was in the theatres? I haven’t seen any ad’s for it at all.

This movie was a disaster from the get-go. It's a shame because i remember her from the 90's spider-man show and found her cool and mysterious. But i also never thought her needing a movie. And now i know i don't want anymore.

I didn't know you could refund tickets

@brady50429

3 ай бұрын

Right?!

No one has super hero movie fatigue. We have shitty movie fatigue. Super heroes have taken the biggest hit but I haven’t seen a really good movie since Top Gun: Maverick and GOTG 3. I haven’t gone to the theatre since. Why waste my money?

i kinda low key want a slasher romcom now. can we get ryan reynolds involved?

Movie so good they should have released it a second time, personally i think the time of release was wrong here, if i could i would release it again.

Also remember that madame web was explicitly stated to be its own thing separate from the MCU meaning not only is it garbage, there's no reason to see it since it's not a part of anything It would be similar to a movie about a hobbit but it's not attached to LOTR, the hobbit smokes a pipe, and literally nothing happens in the movie

It says something about a film if even the usual critics can't be bought to say something good about it.

All female cast and its doomed to fail.

@brady50429

3 ай бұрын

That's the Dei kicking in...

I wonder how big part of this movie's budget had been spent on keeping true fans like JSG away from writing it. I would bet on substantial one.

A romcom slasher... You might have something there young man! As a dude, I would like to see a parody of a romcom film where the things we find absurd were literally slashed with lots of accompanying gore...

👍

There is a story in Marvel comics cannon with female characters, and the audience will love it. All they have to do is show the most important story of Carol Danvers life, true to the comics. This will also introduce the mutants, especially the female powerhouses. It would also give the black whole of charisma, Brie Larson, an excuse to retire.

No not campy, just bad. My wife saw it, I passed. She is not a comics girl, and she compained "That is two hours of my life I'll never get back".

These folks seriously underestimate what a girl loses out on when they drive away men from these stories. Star Wars and DCAU was a major point of bonding between me and my dad and brothers. They're taking away common points of interest and demanding we view the men in our lives as obstacles instead of family.

That's a shame. I really want this movie to succeed.

@brady50429

3 ай бұрын

Madam web never had a backstory for a good reason.

@BrakSplash

3 ай бұрын

@@brady50429 that means they have a fresh take in how to make this movie interesting

What I hear about "Madame Web" is less "camp classic" than "the _only_ way you might glean some enjoyment out of this is to laugh at it". That seems to me like a "Hey, 'Madam Web' showed up on Netflix; let's call some friends and open a couple of bottles of wine" than a "let's pay full ticket price so we can sit in back of the theater and snicker" experience. So-called "superhero fatigue" seems born less out a surplus of superhero movies than a load of "but you'll go see it _anyway_ , because it has _superheroes_ !" movies.

I want a Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) movie. I want it to be awesome. So, i want female superhero movies. Just make it good.

Sony would have to work with Disney to get the mutants in. Very unlikely.

Targeting women just seems like code for movie will likely bomb or underperform because it seems like they try to womanize so much that the women they target are either agreeing with the male demographic that it sucks or the women they want to target were never interested in the product

I’ve seen so many good pieces of media ruined just because the writers saw they were attracting a certain demographic and thought it was a good idea to “cater” towards them. Whatever you were doing before was working. If it ain’t broke, don’t fiddle with it.

3 minutes of the heroines in costume😂

I'll just keep on saying it, 1 hour 50 minutes of Sydney Sweeney in tight dresses and outfits, that would have done the trick.

I’d pay good money to be in one of those Sony meetings when they discuss making these Spider-Manless Spider-Man movies lol There’s gotta be atleast one person in there with their palm permanently attached to their face.

Hehehe to Patrick Stewart and Steven Moffat.

My favorite so bad it’s good movies. The Resident Evil series. I know they’re bad, but Mila and the film have enough for me to at least enjoy it unironically.

Not even 50(different) shades of bubeez can help sell this turdovafilm.

With how much money Disney is making I don't think they will be buying studios for a while

WAHMEN.....

This reminds me a lot of WB desperately scrambling to do justice league long before they were ready for it. Just without the cult following

41? Damn, I thought you and I were closer in age (mid 30s). But yeah... Seeing the movie flop so hard is (allegedly) axed entire writers rooms for future projects? That's bad. inextricably bad.

Superhero fatigue is a lazy out of touch answer. Yes I am not so blind to know it does happen. Five years ago Marvel would have made bank with a Thor movie that followed good source material and no politics. They didn't as we know and went about killing other I.P.'s. There is now brand damage anyone or anything associated with Disney is going to suffer. It's going to take time and a drastic change in course.

Elektra and Catwoman exist. Those were where I saw the biggest increase in woman comic fans growing up. They were excited for seeing their favourite spider women getting adaptations one day.

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Those both had classic limited series in the eighties

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Can they even put Peter Parker Spider-Man in the spin-off movies?

When your top priority is not telling a thrilling interesting story, this kind of crap is going to keep happening.

I am a man, and I still wanna watch it 🙂

When are you people going to wake up and Realize that it's all done on purpose. ESG

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This was a Superhero film?????????

1:53 well i have seen the movie and i say this with complete sincerity Id rather re-watch morbius. It at least had the memes.

The decline of Disney and Hollywood by their own stupidity and hubris is just too entertaining.

"...Disney's going to buy you sooner or later anyway, so you might as well take your time." Ouch! It's funny because it's true. Or it may be true if Disney still has any cash left after the terrible run they've had. No doubt they'd love to get the exclusive rights to Morbius! (And you know, Spider-Man.) Madame Web was never going to be a success. The character is a minor member of Spider-Man's supporting cast. There may be Madame Web fans out there, but you could probably put them all in a medium sized ballroom, and even then half would only be there ironically. This reminds me a lot of the Birds of Prey disaster, although in some ways that was worse because the Birds of Prey was a moderately successful comic book, and there were actual female fans of characters like Batgirl and Harley Quinn. But given that slim starting advantage, DC still managed to change everything about the characters and make a film no one wanted to see. Sony has now done the same thing, except with a group of characters that are way more obscure. There are no Madame Web lunchboxes, and now I guess there never will be.

lets face it sony is trying to replace peter. they will make more money in their minds makeing movies that disney marvel doesn't get a cut of. same reason for replaceing peter at the end of the last spiderman game.