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Chris ''Mad Dog'' Russo gives his Top 5 Point Guards of all time.
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He really critiqued Curry for “only having one chip by him self” but then puts kidd and mentions his one ring but we all know that was dirk🤦♂️
@100ovrbatmanbron7
2 жыл бұрын
wouldn’t really say “that was Dirk” becasue Dirk didn’t carry them in the finals, they played well top to bottom
@joaobrito2653
2 жыл бұрын
@@100ovrbatmanbron7 kidd was a role player on that team , the ring should not matter for any argument
@100ovrbatmanbron7
2 жыл бұрын
@@joaobrito2653 true
@kaulingoulding8299
2 жыл бұрын
What about Magic. He had Kareem
@pupeEETR
2 жыл бұрын
Magic and oscar ddnt win without kareem…
I’m surprised he didn’t have Bob Cousy as his number 1. 😆
@scruffd0g193
2 жыл бұрын
Said the same thing
@charlesc.b2435
2 жыл бұрын
Same, I was certain that he would.
@jblaze1336
2 жыл бұрын
Put some DAM RESPECT ON BOB COUSYS NAME , HIM AND J STOCKTON CONTROLLED THE GAME WITH THIER GREAT MINDS IQ , THEY OUTSMARTED THE BROTHERS WHO WHERE MORE GIFTED PHYSICALY , WE PLAY THE GAME FROM THE NECK UP
@okey7118
2 жыл бұрын
@@jblaze1336 he outsmarted plumbers and firemen
@moman3w
2 жыл бұрын
@@jblaze1336 interesting that you only named white guards
outside of leaving CP3 out of his discussion, the most laughable thing Mad Dawg said was downplaying Curry by saying he only won 1 title by himself then having Kidd over him cus he won 1 out of 3 finals and the 1 that he did win wasn’t even by himself. He was riding the coattails of Dirk. Even Jason Terry was more impactful
@nickpagano7134
2 жыл бұрын
No. JT was not more impactful then Kidd. People really will just say anything.
@neatgarage5243
2 жыл бұрын
And as great as Oscar was, he also never won without Kareem. Neither him or kidd where the best player when they won. Curry was the best on his team in 2015
@urbaindelva7869
2 жыл бұрын
Kidd did not ride Dirk's coattails. He was just as important to that team, especially during their championship run. Yes, he was the 4th or 5th most important player on the team, but that should not take away from him. Also, Kidd's Finals runs with the Nets occurred when the East was at a nadir competitively. Finally, NO PLAYER WINS BY THEMSELVES. THAT'S NOT HOW BASKETBALL WORKS.
@edwinestrada7205
2 жыл бұрын
@@urbaindelva7869 jj barea did his thing too
@kundakaps
2 жыл бұрын
@@neatgarage5243 Finals MVP Iggy
One thing I noticed with the point guard discussion, nobody accounts for the defensive end. Arguably the greatest defender to ever play point guard doesnt even get an honorable mention. Gary Payton a 9x 1st team all NBA defender with a defensive player of the year award. He led his team to the finals with a 64 win record, just couldnt beat Jordan. Definitely top ten in my book
@suraceryan
2 жыл бұрын
I agree he surely a top 10. But I don’t think top 5. In my opinion anyway.
@mikestone8756
2 жыл бұрын
Gary Payton Was a great defender but he’s not Top 5, certainly Top 10
@jacobcrsn
2 жыл бұрын
if they cared about defense player of the year. Dwight woulda been in the top 75
@randyevans2049
2 жыл бұрын
He definitely top 10 but it’s hard to throw him in the top 5. But I agree with you
@ShawnBrown-qh4md
2 жыл бұрын
Gary Payton not even better then Westbrook.. stop it
I think Jason Kidd is underrated. But Mad Dog just overrated him here 😭
@toxicreubz4856
2 жыл бұрын
massively
@murph4lyfe
2 жыл бұрын
He did anything to keep cp3 out lmao
@luny2nez281
2 жыл бұрын
@@xavierb9061 Yea but he isnt better than Curry
@zachcoggins9018
2 жыл бұрын
He’s in the mix for 5 with CP3, Nash and Stockton.
@chrismyco7950
2 жыл бұрын
jason kidd led two inferior nets teams to finals. and they lost against two dynasties.
Man I may not agree with his takes but Mad Dog is entertaining😂😂
@timothymoore2966
2 жыл бұрын
love his energy
@Jkev24
2 жыл бұрын
Dude's a Boomer all the way, but he's unapologetic about it and that energy makes it fun. Also I would slide Curry to 2 or 3, but I would say that's actually a solid list he has. But damnit he's got to be trolling with Cousy haha. Also Jerry West is a 2 guard, no one thinks of him as a PG. I thought Stephen A was going to call him a hypocrite for Nash since Nash has never made a finals, but he came out of left field with Jerry west lol.
@ojmosby5755
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jkev24 he just be joking when he bring up old name like Nate Archibald or Lou Hudson 🤣but they did have some game
@yosxhino3671
2 жыл бұрын
@@ojmosby5755 who?
@nickpagano7134
2 жыл бұрын
You must have a low iq
I'M IN TEARS EVERYTIME MAD DOG SAYS BOB COUSY! 🤣🤣🤣
@trentirvin2008
2 жыл бұрын
BWAWB CEWSY
@kofibabone725
Жыл бұрын
I spit out my juice 💀💀💀😭
@Times397
Жыл бұрын
He was incredible....you may look a this highlights and laugh at his hook shots and one handed shots but stop and think for a second just how difficult those shots are to pull off....those were elements of the game then and he mastered them....had he been playing today he would of adjusted his style. Bob is arguably the greatest passer of all time...give him his respect. Plus, Bob was doing all of this without the trainers, coaches, resources, etc. that all of today's players have....Bob was ahead of his time.
@huwdavies-tallon3305
2 ай бұрын
The GOAT according to Mad dog
"Bob Cousy was an absolute legend, a literal blur on the court" -the firefighters who guarded him in 1954, probably 🤣😂
@nathanchristensen716
2 жыл бұрын
Never shot over 40% for a season in his career
@FupaDoncic
2 жыл бұрын
Before lasik
@heatnix3223
2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanchristensen716 not a good argument, 50s & 60s % were down across the board because style of play and less developed shot mechanics...
@nathanchristensen716
2 жыл бұрын
@@heatnix3223 “less developed shot mechanics” sure seems like an argument to not be better then Chris Paul
@TheInferno0099
2 жыл бұрын
Only the end of the bench guys were firefighters lol and that was only because the NBA didn't pay enough at the time
Stephen A and Mad Dog were made for each other
@luisdaniel7027
2 жыл бұрын
💯
@KayMattersOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
🤦🏾
@djboogieboy
2 жыл бұрын
💯
@nikushachanturia
2 жыл бұрын
We miss Skip though :)))
@resurrectedainu6751
2 жыл бұрын
YES.
I absolutely love mad dog. He infuriates Steven A. he for sure got WAY too much of a "back in my day" energy but its so funny cause it pisses off everyone on the show. People seem to write off everyone who played more than 20 years ago so it is a breath of fresh air.
@jamaloliver6940
2 жыл бұрын
So u think we write them off? So u think those guys better than steph
@owendaboss3858
2 жыл бұрын
He’s skip bayless 2.0
@jamaloliver6940
2 жыл бұрын
@Dani G80 hes still listed as a mf pg 😂 just because he doesn't dominate the ball dont mean anything and the reason he dont dominate the ball is because he would be double teamed so the coach makes plays for him
@jamaloliver6940
2 жыл бұрын
@Dani G80 my guy I didnt say u knocked him I just told u he is a pg
@bobbysack254
Жыл бұрын
but when you watch the best highlights of the stars in the old days, even michael jordan, you can see that the things they did back then you see in most players these days. but if you watch the top highlights of current stars like lebron, steph curry, etc. they do things that are unbelievable that you would have never seen back in the day. also defensive coverages were a joke back in the day too
The way SAS describes CP3, it applies to Mad Dog. Every time Mad Dog shows up on ESPN on Wednesdays, the show gets better. Mad Dog has that charisma. Like you think he's delusional but it's not so mean-spirited like Skip back in the day.
@bye692001
2 жыл бұрын
I get what you are saying with Mad Dog and Skip's similarities.
@Potatoman023
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t get better lmao, its just horrible takes left and right.
@winstonsmith3370
2 жыл бұрын
He’s the Italian version of Stephen A, except more knowledgeable
@seowth
2 жыл бұрын
He's aight, matches Stephen A's energy
@nortonman1178
2 жыл бұрын
Opposite for me. I generally can't stand watching his videos and only clicked on this one to see the top 5 list he had
I know he never won a ring... But are we going to ignore the brilliance of John Stockton? He has a steal and assists record that no one is going to touch.
@mucknar
2 жыл бұрын
since he became a crazy person... yes
@addielmoreau4469
2 жыл бұрын
@@mucknar crazy person?😂 I’ve been under a rock what he do?
@pslim68
2 жыл бұрын
He was mentioned so nobody forgot about him lol
@LeChina
2 жыл бұрын
@@addielmoreau4469 he spoke about the vaccine.
@ianmbanda3196
2 жыл бұрын
true, but remember he played with Karl Malone for about 20 years......if some like CP3 played with Malone for that long he would have close to the same records
Magic said that if you wanna learn play the point, watch Stockton His assists and steals records are unreachable and he didnt win a title cuz he faced MJ He is top 5
@jblaze1336
2 жыл бұрын
Reverse racism ,J Stockton was one of the greatest of all time top 3 ,4 but because he wasn't Flashy and dunking he gets disrespected
@moman3w
2 жыл бұрын
@@jblaze1336 Stockton isn’t better than magic, curry, Isaiah Thomas or Oscar
@eappleby9702
2 жыл бұрын
He didn't win cause Karl Malone couldn't hit free throws not cause he faced Jordan
@therightopinion4619
2 жыл бұрын
He faced the Bulls
@mastermarcon8311
2 жыл бұрын
Stockton without Malone is worse than Magic without Kareem, Curry without Draymond/Klay, Oscar without Jerry Lucas, Isiah Thomas without Joe Dumars/Bill Laimbeer. You could argue he is #5 but Chris Paul, Steve Nash, and Jerry West are arguably better
Bruh no way I’m ever ranking Jason Kidd over steph curry😂😂😂
The way he said “Nash can’t coach” had me dead 💀
@MrGLites
2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting to see if SAS was going to smirk
“Even Curry” lmaoo he has more than everybody on that list except magic 😂😂
if you squint ur eyes, it looked like the good ol days with Skip and Stephen A
@kevsalinass6440
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@odsdrummer
2 жыл бұрын
😹
@johncrrll3885
2 жыл бұрын
I would take the toolbox from Texas over this guy..... Maybe Sorry, they both suck My bad
@shermandudley5548
2 жыл бұрын
Mad Dog is just Skip with a New York accent
I've always felt like Stockton is so underrated. NBA record for steals and assists and it isn't even close. He's the definition of a fundamentally strong point guard
@lucoffe
2 жыл бұрын
Im glad someone said it, such a disrespect for Stockton. He is for me just a true Point Guard.
Mad Dog is one of the few able to out-talk Stephen A. These guys together are electric.
@LukasP143
2 жыл бұрын
Yes but horrific takes lol. Purely entertainment
@tolopo99
2 жыл бұрын
@@LukasP143 Your opinion
@anthonyauthentic7934
2 жыл бұрын
@@tolopo99 They said the same thing about max . Now he’s some intellectual god
@drb5003
2 жыл бұрын
Bob Cousey he used to dribble around the court with one hand.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CamWick
Жыл бұрын
@@drb5003 saying this is pretty idiotic they played in the 60’s the game evolves
These two together are TV gold! Unmatched chemistry and the funniest arguments ever!
@cjizzle26
8 ай бұрын
Not better than him and skip. But they are good.
How does John Stockton not make any of these lists?! The guy leads all time in assists and steals!! Played both ends of the floor and he was essentially Chris Paul before Chris Paul.
@CapitalP177
2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@calthar13
2 жыл бұрын
He is white and lost two chips to Jordan.
@hug0addicted197
2 жыл бұрын
He was better than CP3
@waunke56
2 жыл бұрын
@@calthar13 same reason why stephen A gets so mad about jason kidd. Now do i think he is 4th overall. Proly not but he was something curry never was and never will be. A really good defender. He was also big. Like Russel Westbrook big at 6'4 so he would wear someone like curry out in playoffs and would run him flat over in the post because guards use to know how to play post. Now its like smart, holiday, and Westbrook and thats about it.
@tonyj9743
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Stockton never gets enough love. He was a fantastic defender, passer, and nobody ever ran the pick n Roll better!
To put steph at 5 is blasphemous. Curry at 2 is the most respectful you can do to him. One and only unanimous mvp.
@ucbucb30
2 жыл бұрын
Jason Kidd over Steph? 💀😭
@SA-cp4tw
2 жыл бұрын
Could put him 3 because he doesn’t have a finals mvp which he should considering how good he is but doesn’t take control in the finals oftentime . Yet the lowest u can put him is 3.
@AM_yadu108
2 жыл бұрын
dude needs to win a finals MVP...come and talk then
@suneelj93
2 жыл бұрын
That point is spoken like a new era fan that only looks at accolades and watches box scores.
@xavierb9061
2 жыл бұрын
4 better than curry as point..curry better than 4 off the ball
It doesn't matter where Cp3 is top 5 or not, Everyone got they're own list
@urbaindelva7869
2 жыл бұрын
Same thoughts.
This man is straight up comedy. Give the dude a contract on First Take!
@nortonman1178
2 жыл бұрын
Please no...
@kofibabone725
Жыл бұрын
Bob Cousy!!!! 💀😭💀😂🤣😂💀🤦🏾♂️
I appreciate Mad Dogg's old school approach. A lot of the all time legends are underappreciated. That being said, he's a hypocrite for putting Steph Curry at 5 because he "only won one ring by himself" when he put the Big O and Jason Kidd above him even if they never won anything by themselves. Steph is definitely my #2 behind Magic.
@rijulchhabra1725
Жыл бұрын
Is steph number 1 now?
Only UNANIMOUS MVP ever at 5? Nah
@bel4406
2 жыл бұрын
Playoffs is wher u become legendary unanimous so
These 2 together are gold!😂
i’m really curious why walt frazier is never talked about as an all time great pg, won 2 finals and had some huge playoff/finals moments, but even the old heads i don’t hear talk about him and i figure there’s gotta be a reason
@FruitMonger360
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wonder that too. Best I can tell he had a relatively short prime and never had the assist numbers that other PGs had. You would still think that the rest of his resume would allow him to crack the top 10 PG lists.
@brendanbloom3366
2 жыл бұрын
He's in the top 10.
@ewerdherrera636
2 жыл бұрын
He had a super great handle i watched those finals he was amazing suprised hes not talked about either he was really great one of the great players that can play in this era
@winstonsmith3370
2 жыл бұрын
Top 10 for sure.
@Michael_Page
2 жыл бұрын
Clyde!!! He really should get more love. He's basically Gary Payton with 2 rings.
1. Magic 2. Steph 3. Oscar 4. Isiah 5. CP3/Stockton
@ItsDannysYT
2 жыл бұрын
You got it perfect
@tylerwest3161
2 жыл бұрын
Isiah better then Oscar
@natutz
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there’s no way Kidd is better than Paul & Stockton!
@justingaines207
2 жыл бұрын
isiah has to be the second best pg ever. he literally beat 4 of the top 10 players ever to get his rings
@007IloveNY
2 жыл бұрын
No way is Steph higher than Oscar, Isiah and Stockton.
Mad dog was trolling him 😂
I’m thoroughly convinced they brought in Madd Dogg on First Take to just troll Stephen A. all show lol
@Mjuxtapose03
2 жыл бұрын
I’m dead . Lol gotta love this guy
John Stockton has to be on their no matter what the all time leader in assists and steals and nobody is coming close to those records.
Steph at 5 is crazyyyyy
@adidasboy3207
2 жыл бұрын
Anything lower than 2 is stupid.
@samhopkins3610
2 жыл бұрын
Anything lower than 2 and I can’t take u seriously. Yes I’m a warriors fan
@Oridginale24
2 жыл бұрын
@@samhopkins3610 So in other words, you ignore defense and leadership which Kidd has over Steph. Draymond is the real leader of the Warriors and Steph can’t defend like Kidd did. When Kidd was in his prime, his best teammates were Kenyon Martin, Richard Jefferson, & Vince Carter at the end of his prime. Those are good players but you can’t compare them to Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, & Draymond Green.
@samhopkins3610
2 жыл бұрын
@@Oridginale24 leadership is so arbitrary, you’re not in the warriors locker room so u don’t know that, and by all accounts Steph is a great teammate. Kidd is a better defender but Steph is 10x the offensive player that Kidd was. Is Marcus Smart better than Steph too?
@samhopkins3610
2 жыл бұрын
@@Oridginale24 if someone right now said Mikal Bridges was better than Kevin Durant or Lebron they would sound like an idiot but he’s a way better defender. Is Kevon looney better than Jokic? He’s a better defender
Mad Dog is so funny! Great chemistry with Stephen A
Magic, Isiah, Curry, Oscar, Glove, Kidd, CP3, Iverson, Stockton, Luka when done playing 😂
@bgbambino
2 жыл бұрын
Iverson was a SG during his peak. Snow ran the point.
@Kenandgratdiary
2 жыл бұрын
@@bgbambino true, but because Stephen a considers Jerry West as a point, i just had to mention AI 🙏🏻
@brendanbloom3366
2 жыл бұрын
Magic Oscar IT Stockton Kidd GP CP3 Cousy Frazier KJ
@melanatedgod5337
2 жыл бұрын
Luka will be higher when he's done lol.
@elliottwilson2352
2 жыл бұрын
Iverson lol that's who yall be overrating
*Mad Dog is the only reason I’m watching First Take*
@losjay940
2 жыл бұрын
Well let if be
Am I the only one that doesn’t get this whole CP3 thing… what has he won?
@gregorycostello6377
2 жыл бұрын
exactly and he punches dudes in the nuts in college and in the pros
@zackd9032
2 жыл бұрын
You’re a casual then look at his resume and context of his teams and competition
@d8rinc
2 жыл бұрын
facts 😂 he’s good and makes teams better, but he’s never won a chip. if he ever does win a chip then sure top 5 all time for me
@Nick-pf5xo
2 жыл бұрын
He hasnt won much but so hasnt a lot of great point guards in the history as the number 1 option. CP3 has been the best player on contenders for most of his career, is a consistent 20+10 guy and is the true definition of point guard. I have him behind Magic, Steph, Oscar and Isiah and tied with Stockton at 5. Nash and Kidd also did not have much team success as the number 1 option on their teams
@JayZone23
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nick-pf5xo Kidd much better as a leader and defender. only thing CP3 is better at is scoring. Kidd went to the finals twice though as the main guy with not much talent like cp3, stockton and nash had. Kidd more versatile, can play more off the ball and can defend multiple positions than those 3. he did defend kobe, lebron, durant, wade and westbrook during the 2011 championship run. I think if Kidd was in his prime with a prime Dirk. they could have won at least 2 championship. CP3 was in a very talented team in his days with the clippers, rockets and even new orleans but was unable to get to the conference finals until last year where most of the teams they faced were without their stars. Nash also had great talented teammates in his time with the mavericks, suns and lakers but he was a liability on defense and only emerge as a great player in a d'antoni type system. Stockton had malone most of his career. They were a great duo but stockton never carried a team like some of the best point guards did. Malone was the best player during those Jazz run in the 90s. 1. Magic Johnson 2. Steph Curry 3. Oscar Robertson 4. Isiah Thomas 5. Jason Kidd This is the top 5 PG of All Time for me.
1:26 That reaction is golden
Mad Dog knows his stuff man. Even if you disagree you can't say he doesn't know.
This is about what i'd expect out of a sports debate between two people from New York.
Most people who disrespect Bob Cousy I feel like have never watched a full game of him playing. Watching him I legit think he could’ve EASILY played today
@Muneeb08
2 жыл бұрын
It’s just another form of recency bias. No one will obv be able to completely tell whether he could play today but I guarantee most that disrespect his name have never even seen him play
@boonebeasley9622
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I’m better than him ur crazy
@markozbunjol625
2 жыл бұрын
he is one of the greatest
@udithsethu552
2 жыл бұрын
He would be a good bench warmer today.
@blackanimelover18
2 жыл бұрын
Nah man, dude couldn't even average over 40% from the field. He'd be a bench warmer in today's game, and this is coming from someone that actually respects the OG players.
This is just a troll list 😂😂…except magic at 1
@mehdi1163
2 жыл бұрын
Most people have Oscar Robertson at 2 as well though
@verifiedyessir2534
2 жыл бұрын
@@mehdi1163 bs
@Ben-dp7fx
2 жыл бұрын
@@mehdi1163 most people who were alive after the 13 colonies have Curry #2
@julianclanton1204
2 жыл бұрын
@@mehdi1163 no most ppl have curry
@mehdi1163
2 жыл бұрын
@@verifiedyessir2534 ESPN ranked best players all time last year, Oscar Robertson 11th , Curry was 13th. Most lists have Oscar ahead of Curry.
This was a great list by Maddog
This aged very well for Mad Dog -- despite the bad list.
@kohsmoger1567
2 жыл бұрын
Curry at 5 is horrible
@jamesnelson5618
Жыл бұрын
@@kohsmoger1567 curry at top 2 is Better? Don't be Offensive.
@kohsmoger1567
Жыл бұрын
Steph is a top 2 pg don’t care what anyone says
Magic is basically consesus 1 IT is basically consensus 3. Most ppl have steph 2 big o at 4 then that 5th spot is debatable. The funny thing is that this list is actually good for mad dog standards🤣💀
@justingaines207
2 жыл бұрын
it's crazy to me that. Zeek isn't automatic 2 like my dude beat Kareem, Magic, Michael the goat Jordan, Arguably the best forward ever Larry Bird, Prime Wilkins, Benard King and Patrick.
@jblaze1336
2 жыл бұрын
J STOCKTON IS A BETTER PURE P GUARD THAN CURRY , YALL GUYS WITH THIS REVERSE RACISM HAS TO STOP
@ryanlebard3787
2 жыл бұрын
@Justin Gaines …, Facts people like to say MJ went through all those teams … nah it was Isaiah
@bel4406
2 жыл бұрын
Most ppl do not have Steph at two u buggin
@DemonKing-oi4jd
2 жыл бұрын
I have Zeke 2 behind Magic. Mostly young people put curry 2 because they don't know any better.
Curry is atleast 2nd if not on level with magic
@007IloveNY
2 жыл бұрын
LMAO ROFL
@wangvue5557
2 жыл бұрын
Nono
@michaelgregory2583
2 жыл бұрын
You must haven't ever played basketball with a dumb statement only thing Steph do is great is shoot the 3
Any clip, during which, Mad Dog presents a list is an absolute winner.
Perfect list perfect honorable mentions
imagine having a top 5 PG list of all time and not having at least 1 or 2 of CP3, Stockton, or Nash....not having a single 1 of the 3 purest Point guards of all time
Y'all forgetting who the glove GP defensive point guard
@MannyParadisee
2 жыл бұрын
He’s not a top 5 PG so hush
@dangelobrown87
2 жыл бұрын
@@MannyParadisee better than Jason kidd
Great List !!!
This guy mads Dogg the accent is the best man Stephen finally found someone to match his energy love that guy . Mad Dogg the beat lol
Mad Dog really is just a mad man.
Jason Kidd the most unappreciated player of all time.. casuals basketball fans think u need to have to shoot 3 pointers like curry to be great.. Not understanding Kidd after magic Johnson was the greatest facilitator ever and can dominate a game without shooting a shot attempt
Who is here after CP0 choked game 7 and now realized why Mad Dog didn’t put him on the list.
Calm your horses. The list depends on who's making it. Mad Dog's list is about accomplishments and how the players rank compared to the other players in their own era.
J Kidd is my all time favorite, so I can appreciate it
@ShawnBrown-qh4md
2 жыл бұрын
And u got dudes up here commenting talking about mad dog overrating him.. Nah Kidd the most unappreciated player of all time.. these casuals think u have to shoot 3 pointers like curry
@Spurss210
2 жыл бұрын
Fav pg of all time also 🤙🏻
Either have Curry #2 or don't have him on the list at all because he's not a true point guard, but don't keep him on the list and also penalize him for not being a true point guard. Also if you're talking about traditional point guards Stockton needs to be in the top 5. He lacked a lot athletically and he's damaged his legacy with the anti-vax stuff, but in terms of being a passer and a floor general he's easily in the top 5. So either go all in with guards who played the 1 and have Curry at #2 or go all in on traditional point guards and have Stockton way higher but Steph not on the list. This list just changed the requirements for each pick in an effort to keep CP3 off it.
@kingbirdIII
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that people think Stocktons legacy in basketball is damaged because he is specifically against the rushed covid vax (not anti vax in general) is a joke. It's a woke joke , shouldn't be mentioned unless you are a puppet of the corporate greed system we are all exposed to
@cucumber3027
2 жыл бұрын
This is a very solid point 🤝 Steph is indisputably among the BEST if we're talking about the Best Overall players that played the Pos1. The only argument that can challenge that was the fact that he's not really a Traditional/Pure/True PG, u really have to either Put him #2(anything lower is an insult) and he's not even done yet, or isolate him coz he won't fit those PG rankings 'Qualifications'
@yvans.
2 жыл бұрын
Lol the anti/vaxx thing does nothing for me who really cares 😂
@ShawnBrown-qh4md
2 жыл бұрын
But he’s not better then Oscar, magic, or Thomas.. period
@joeljohnson6137
2 жыл бұрын
How does OG have STEPH in an not STOCKTON... STEPH better player but not better PG... STOCKTON may have been the Goat like MAGIC because STOCKTON was 9x NBA Assist Leader.... Top 5 Greatest Point Guards .. No particular order... Magic Johnson 5x Champion 3x Finals MVP 3x MVP 12x All-Stars 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP 9x All NBA First Team 4x NBA Assist Leader 2x NBA Steal Leader IBM Award John Stockton 10x NBA All-Star NBA All-Star Game MVP 2x All NBA First Team 9x NBA Assist Leader 2x NBA Steals Leader Chris Paul 12x NBA All-Star NBA All-Star MVP 4x All-NBA First Team 7x All Defensive First Team NBA Rookie Of The Year NBA All Rookie First Team 5x NBA Assist Leader 6x NBA Steels Leader Jason Kidd NBA Champion 10x All-Star 5x All NBA First Team 4x All NBA Defensive First Team NBA Co Rookie First Team NBA All Rookie First Team 5x NBA Assist Leader 2x NBA Sportsmanship Award USA Male Basketball Athlete Of The Year Steve Nash 2x MVP 8x NBA All-Star 3x All-NBA First Team 5x NBA Assist Leader 4x 50-40-90 Club Phonenix Sun Ring Of Honor 2x FIBA AmeriCup MVP Lou Marsh Trophy 3x Lionel Conacher Award I love Steph Curry but he didn't make my top 5 Best PG list because he is not a top 5 passer... Steph Curry does have Top 5 impact as a PG tho.... Steph Curry 3x Champion 2x MVP 8x NBA All-Star NBA All-Star Game Mvp 4x All NBA First Team 2x Scoring NBA Champion NBA Steals Leader 50-40-90 Club 2x NBA 3 Point Contest Champion NBA All Rookie First Team A PG is about passing... Assist Leader Stockon 9x Magic 5x CP3 5x Kidd 5x Nash 5x Steph 0x I made a mistake Oscar Robertson NBA Champion MVP 12x NBA All-Star 3x NBA All-Star Game MVP 9x All NBA First Team 6x Assist Leader Top 5 Greatest PGs KIDD MAGIC OSCAR STOCKTON Tied CP3/NASH Steph Isaiah an Glove Honorable Mention Glove 9x NBA All-Star 2x All NBA First Team NBA Defensive Player Of The Year 9x All NBA Defensive First Team NBA Steals Leader Isaiah Thomas 2x NBA Champion NBA Finals MVP 2x NBA All-Star Game MVP 3x All NBA First Team NBA All Rookie First Team NBA Assist Leader J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award
i was waiting for this guy to mention meadow lark lemon
I love their energy!
They just forget about John Stockton, career leader in steals and assists by a landslide. He is the better version of Jason Kidd.
@guccisantanaaa7661
2 жыл бұрын
No rather have Jason he’s taller faster more athletic
@markarmage3776
2 жыл бұрын
@@guccisantanaaa7661 He's also less durable and an inferior passer and defender.
@williedoyle8331
2 жыл бұрын
No chips
@harianirudh1478
2 жыл бұрын
@@markarmage3776 Kidd with 9 defensive team selections? We talking about the same person? Passing I'd call it even, Kidd was flashier but Stockton more consistent. And durability, no debate, Stockton by a long shot
@jeffrey7737
2 жыл бұрын
@@markarmage3776 your saying Kidd is an inferior defender ? 🤦
1. Magic 2. Steph 3. Oscar 4. Isiah 5. Stockton 6. CP3 7. Cousy 8. Frazier 9. Kidd 10. Nash Hon Mention: Tiny, Payton, DJ, Lilliard, Parker
@fazed362
2 жыл бұрын
Lillard?
@Comictalent
2 жыл бұрын
@@fazed362 Top 15 PG of all-time? Yah, I'd say so, especially if he has a few more productive years.
@Kirbystare1992
2 жыл бұрын
You believe deep down in your heart that Cousy and Frazier are better than Westbrook?
@fazed362
2 жыл бұрын
@@Comictalent kyrie and Westbrook should be there before lillard, and future potential production isn’t an argument for a top 10 or 15 list. At best you can say lillard might reach it but he isn’t there yet
@Comictalent
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kirbystare1992 No, they are nowhere near the athlete he is, but I don't believe you punish old players historically just because the game changes and players improve. I'm sure Cousy could never guard Westbrook one-on-one. But I also don't think Westbrook has had the career Cousy did in his era. I think both points matter.
Man I love the mad dog and Stephen A chemistry. Just the reactions they give off each other is even funny af.
Nice video !
1. Magic 2. Curry 3. Oscar Robertson 4. Isiah Thomas 5. Stockton 6. Kidd 7. Nash 8. Tony Parker 9. Cp3 10. Westbrook
@joshualee5282
2 жыл бұрын
Tony Parker over Cp3? Idk bout that
@twcgoat4761
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshualee5282 he’s got 4 rings and a finals mvp
@twcgoat4761
2 жыл бұрын
@@The614zekebecause they played on worse teams then the spurs for a majority of their careers and have better individual accolades, for example Nash has 2 mvps and stockton is the all time leader in steals and assist bar far.
@twcgoat4761
2 жыл бұрын
@@The614zeke not as big as finals mvp, if he wins one then yea he will move up but not till then
@twcgoat4761
2 жыл бұрын
@@The614zeke also Lebron has 37k points and 10k assist so no cp3 is not the only player to have done that
How much more does Patrick McCaw have to prove?!😂
@austinledley
2 жыл бұрын
I know, he three-peated!
@melanatedgod5337
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@eazythedon54st
2 жыл бұрын
Who?
Love mad dogs List / take ! Jason Kidd Most underrated Player of all time !
The John Stockton disrespect is very real.
It's spooky how much alike these two are. Loved this segment. Mad Dog just plain ol real!!
1.Magic 2.Steph 3.Zeek The rest is up in the air.
@jeremiahsmith7706
2 жыл бұрын
Big O 3rd, 4th Zeke
@001spring
2 жыл бұрын
Thomas is not top 3
@100spurs
2 жыл бұрын
Steph is not top 3
That's actually a good list right there.
@3:13 “no ifs, and, or BUTTS” 😂😂😂
1. Magic 2. Curry I don’t care about the rest.
Top 10 Point Guards 1. Magic 2. Curry 3. Oscar 4. West 5. IT 6. Kidd 7. CP3 8. Westbrook 9. Nash 10. Stockton
@tr1x8gaming27
2 жыл бұрын
Kyrie lillard is not an HM
@yoboychris4149
2 жыл бұрын
Don't disrespect Russ like that 💀 and west is a 2 guard
@waunke56
2 жыл бұрын
Until Kyrie can play for someone other than himself. I think him being on any list is disrespectful to anyone else on the list.
That list 🔥
Mad dog Russo is great need him on more often he is so entertaining
You can always count on CP3 to get hurt or choke along with making a team good on paper. He's not a winning player. He just fools everyone.
He loves Bob Cousy 😂😂😂
Even Jason Kidd would say the list is blasphemous for putting him ahead of Stockton.
That was legit the first time the even mentioned hockey on this show when Russo mentioned Ray Bourque leaving Boston for the Colorado Avalanche and won a cup
😂 this man got Jason Kidd ahead of curry. Steph top 3
@Oridginale24
2 жыл бұрын
Steph only brings offense. Kidd brought offense, defense, & leadership. Curry is not a defender and Draymond is the real leader of the Warriors. Steph is a better scorer and shooter but Kidd was the better passer and floor general.
@verifiedyessir2534
2 жыл бұрын
@@Oridginale24 if steph is on the floor, he is defending his best. Some people are just not built to be a defender. It is not as if Curry is a guaranteed bucket like isiah Thomas. His most underrated part of the game.
@jaleelgoines9949
2 жыл бұрын
@@Oridginale24 steph has led the nba in steals before so he’s not a terrible defender. But there’s is no way u can argue Kidd over curry. It’s not even close
@Oridginale24
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaleelgoines9949 Getting steals is often about gambling but there’s so much more to defense than just getting steals. Iverson led the league in steals but he wasn’t a great defender. Kidd could actually guard the 1 to the 3 positions. Kidd was the most vocal guy on the floor like Draymond is for the Warriors.
@007IloveNY
2 жыл бұрын
Curry is playing in a Marshmallow era, and is injured every two months.
There’s probably 6 people alive that seen Bob Cousy play 😂😂😂😂
Can’t realty argue with this list looool
They should make an add of these two fine dining at a nice NY restaurant yelling back n forth at each other 🗣😂
He also screamed that Chris Paul has only been to one conference final when he’s been to two…
@malcolmhawkins1998
2 жыл бұрын
two conf. finals in 15 years is insanity
Mad dog: I have Steph curry at number 5 *Immediately Clicks off video
Mad Dog is fantastic! Speaking facts.
@jeremymason8081
2 жыл бұрын
You’re the only one who thinks that
Dude sounds like he's auditioning to coach rocky 24/7
I love mad dog. But John Stockton has to be in the top 5. Matter of fact top 3 on anyones list.
I would literally sign a petition to get Mad Dog Russo off TV on any show. He’s not an analyst he is a historian.
That’s a really really good list
1. Magic Johnson 2. Oscar Robertson 3. Steph Curry 4. Isaiah Thomas 5. John Stockton 6. Jason Kidd 7. Steve Nash 8. Garry Payton 9. Chris Paul 10. Jerry West
Stockton for his career avg 13pt 10ast 2st. Shooting 39% 55% 83%. Also, there was 16 seasons where he played all 82 games. Stockton is top 5
@XChronicHash
2 жыл бұрын
You cant be top 5 with no rings
@AM_yadu108
2 жыл бұрын
good for nothing player..what has he won
@quranshareef3440
2 жыл бұрын
@@XChronicHash Don't listen to these clowns, you can be top 5 without a ring. Look at barry sanders and debatebly Charles barkley
@kofi6239
2 жыл бұрын
Cp3 and westbrook>>
@XChronicHash
2 жыл бұрын
@@quranshareef3440 Barkley isn’t a top 5 PF
Chris Paul played in 2 conference finals….
My God First Take FINALLY found a Duo made for the people!!!!
Love this duo lol 😂
Stockton not in the top 5 is hilarious. He might be the human version of khakis but dude was arguably the goat pg. Like all time leader in steals and assists.
@Howdidhenotseeme
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who watches stockton and Chris paul side by side knows CP3 is the better player period.
@illynatic
2 жыл бұрын
Stockton is "statistically" the point god. No contest
@markreadin7124
2 жыл бұрын
He said no championship lol
Stockton and Malone are so severely underrated for all-time great lists and I don't know why. Yes, they lost 2 Finals to the undisputed GOAT, but they lost 2 Finals to the undisputed GOAT. Also, the Bulls support players were far superior to the Jazz's. If the Jazz had Rodman, they'd win 5 titles in a row. Stockton is 1st in Steals and Assists all-time and doesn't make a top 5 PG list? That's just insane.
@jnix_visuals
2 жыл бұрын
Facts I thought for sure Stockton would be on here
I love this list... true true
Bob Cousy sounds like a character played by Will Ferrell