At NTC we mostly trained to engage with the T72 with the Scout Bradley's. When we were ambushing them for the most part we had a 7 kills to 1 loss ratio on average. However whenever we got ambushed those numbers didn't look nearly as good lol

@wcm8909

Жыл бұрын

At NTC I was mostly crammed into the back of one with seven other sweaty dudes for nine hours at a time, with no earthly clue what was going on outside

@gr6373

Жыл бұрын

@@wcm8909 Me too. Wobbling around for a couple minutes after dismount🤣

@AdamD19D

Жыл бұрын

@@gr6373 So glad I was a HMMWV guy. Our truck had just under 60 kills sneaking around calling in firemissions and rotary with the LRASS. Opfor don't get to use those so it's really not fair.

@calebbearup4282

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like y'all got to do NTC in an infantry Bradley. We went with just the driver gunner and commander. Occasionally we would go out with just two. So I definitely got to be much more involved.

@roceye

Жыл бұрын

@@wcm8909 Do we know which version they are sending- specifically do they have Laser range finders and GPS?

Send them they need them

@MrHiram30

Жыл бұрын

Ruskies have destroyed many of them already 😮

@iamsorryforbeingrudebefore1626

Жыл бұрын

They burn too well in the open field called Bradley Square. 😂

US Army is looking to replace this ifv, have almost 7000 of them so it makes sense to give them to Ukraine. Hope its just the first part of a broader effort to fully modernize their military with western afv and aircraft

@Viktor_Palamarchuk

Жыл бұрын

The same bro! We already waiting for the next part in close future! :-) USA on the side of truth and freedoms! Appreciate for that!

@Dushmann_

Жыл бұрын

@@Viktor_Palamarchuk I hope you and your family are safe and well Ukraine will win this war eventually. It's just a shame that Ukrainians have to suffer in the mean time. The US, UK and Canada all have Ukraines back and will provide as much money and equipment to ensure Ukraine wins. You don't have to worry about receiving future shipments of equipment, they definitely won't stop. I think it's only a matter of time before the US and UK start sending Abrams and Challenger tanks. These new IFV shipments have opened a door that allows the discussion of sending tanks to Ukraine.

@badluck5647

Жыл бұрын

Ukraine had a success offensive with a fleet of Toyotas. Imagine what they can do with a fleet of these.

@David-nu6kw

Жыл бұрын

Big thanks to the United States for sending THE Bradley. I hope they send at least 1000.

@DroneStrike1776

Жыл бұрын

NGCV will have the XM913 50mm cannon. Bradley still effective as hell for urban combat. Optics, 40+mph, maneuverability, 3500m 25mm Bushmaster. And it can stop 30mm rounds, aka Terminator.

Send as many as possible

@paidjoofficial

Жыл бұрын

Destroyed as much as possible 😂

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

Turned to kebab 😂

@MiG-31893

Ай бұрын

@@paidjoofficialyes the T-90!

@dnate697

5 күн бұрын

@@MiG-31893 😁😁😁

Can't believe my old beloved 90's military micromachines tanks and planes are fighting in 2023 in Ukraine!!! I'm glad I still have them!!!

@UsudUsud-ly9qr

Жыл бұрын

Well, they actually good in clearing mines

@azmagaref

Жыл бұрын

@@UsudUsud-ly9qr 😂Literally

So many people especially in the media are calling these and the French AMX 10s as "Tanks" when they clearly are not.

@damianm-nordhorn116

Жыл бұрын

Go ahead and define "tank". Challenger, M1, Leopard etc. are MBTs. They are what you (personally) consider "a tank", while, in fact, they are certain types of tanks. In German IFVs are Schützenpanzer, which translated literally means something like infantry tank or squad tank, with "Schütze" meaning infantryman. .. and you probably know what's a Panzer, right?

@TrueChell

Жыл бұрын

@@damianm-nordhorn116 Calling everything that's armored a "tank" will needlessly bolster regular people's image of what's being supplied to Ukraine. Where I am, I hear people call every manner of thing (including ac/mraps) a "tank", and what they mean is MBTs. Though they don't understand the difference with anything. Convenient?

@studentaviator3756

Жыл бұрын

I think some of it is political posturing to make it seem less of a scary jump to when they actually send mbt. People either downplay a system or play up a system for political purposes in this case m2 Bradley "tanks" and amx10 wheeled "tanks" are being sent so why not send leopard 2 tanks.

@tasman006

Жыл бұрын

I've been studying tanks and armoured vechiles for over 40 years. There has been a great evolution in armour since its inception in WW1. The tank itself evolved from three types. Light, Meduim and Heavy tank and basically became all three as the MBT after WW2 with most countries. Even though light tanks are still around basically a tank due is a tracked armoured vechile with a turret a main gun with coax machine gun. (A armoured vechile with wheels I classify as an armoured car some people will say its a tank with wheels.) For infantry it started of on horse then the truck then a armoured half track which then evolved into a tracked APC or armoured perssonel carrier which generally just had a machine gun like the M113 and carried infantry. This then evolved into the Infantry fighting vechile or IFV which has better firepower generally a 20mm, 25mm, 30mm, 35mm and 40mm auto cannon. Some have for example a standard gun like the Russian BMP 1 which is 73mm low pressure gun and most not all will have a ATGM or Anti Tank Guided Missile, coax machine gun and of course carries the infantry. (Agian there is also wheeled versions of APC's and IFV's.) Other vechiles like tanks where tank destroyers or support vechiles that didn't have a turret or where open topped with a turret. This practice didn't last long and any tank destroyers morphed into a tracked vechile without a gun and had ATGM system but in most armies today this kind of vechile is not really used anymore accept in Russia. For artilary a SPG or self propelled gun also has gone through an evolutionary process to make artilary more mobile generally they will have a turret put on top of a tracked Chasis of a tank or other vechile mounting generally a 105mm, 122mm, 152mm, 155mm, 175mm, 203mm gun. There is also engineering vechiles on tracked Chasis of MBT's. The Media don't have this knowledge and just print what they think it is without the common sence of using Google.

@damianm-nordhorn116

Жыл бұрын

@@TrueChell Did you boys ever consider where the term "tank" was first used, for what sort of vehicle? No, not for an MBT with a big main gun like the Tiger.. Vehicles such as the Mark IV (the original "tank") and the A7V were basically infantry fighting vehicles, with machine guns and HE spitting guns. MBTs are called MBTs a reason. Otherwise one would ONLY call them "tanks", not "main battle tanks". So OBVIOUSLY they're specifically called MBTs BECAUSE there are other vehicles one can call "a tank".

Send it!

Hey, so, how are the Bradleys doing?

@yourdaddy5435

Жыл бұрын

"They're just troop carriers!"

@elchudcampeador5642

Жыл бұрын

one piece is here, one piece is there

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

@@yourdaddy5435 IFV

@illuminatra456

4 ай бұрын

Embarrassing a Russian MBT.

Considering how these were meant to combat the Soviet’s and Russia is fighting like the soviets it makes sense. I trained on one for three years in the army looking forward to the combat footage

@stranger6797

Жыл бұрын

So did you saw the footage 😁

@muamaralkaddafi8765

Жыл бұрын

Full sheet your tanks, jet and soldiers.

@typicallymoody

Жыл бұрын

They’re already being reported as very reliable and always protecting the crews. Mines only take them out of service for 3 days. The Russian AFVs explode with their whole crew dead when they hit mines

@Stockfish1511

10 ай бұрын

They are so good russians named a place as a bradley square 🤣🤣🤣

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

@@Stockfish1511 lmao Bradley Square has been the highlight of the clown offensive 😆

The delivery of modern western wheeled gun systems and IFVs MUST be accompanied by equal MBTs.

@Husker5454

Жыл бұрын

I disagree . Not only are MBT's significantly harder to keep operating in the field but they are also less suited to the current weather conditions being heavy limiting their areas of operation . Smaller , light weight vehicles with anti armor capability is significantly more effective . Additionally , Ukraine are not short of MBT's or even fairly modern ones .

@meme4one

Жыл бұрын

Yes, MBTs have shown their value in the Ukrainiane...in open warfare like the wars in Iraq, flat open areas, its tank on tank. Most accurate, longest range gun and best armour teamed with training and motivated crews win. Anything urban, wooded etc, drones and man launched anti armour weapons have decimated MBTs.

@elektrotehnik94

Жыл бұрын

If by modern MBT’s you mean platforms that detect & effectively engage at longer ranges than the Russian MBT’s, then yes. NATO’s help to Ukraine is money-limited. (sadly… Budapest memorandum, smh). Platforms for Ukraine’s use need to be tailored to Ukraine’s immediate, but also long-term strengths & weakness. ^^ Ukraine’s army has manpower overload; it also has a money shortage, equipment quantity shortage & “new & complex platforms” maintenance training shortage.

@springer3783

Жыл бұрын

Why if an apc can destroy a tank , why do you need tanks. Faster agile with troops carrying ability and tank destroying armament is a step ahead of a tank is it not.

@tasman006

Жыл бұрын

@@springer3783 Read a book on armoured warfare then you will find out. Combined arms is the key to success with that you need the TANK. Simple reason firepower and support for the troops. The troops look after the tank the tank looks after the troops. Combined with artillary and air support(If you get air superiority) history has shown with good communication and planning this works.

Another denial from pentagon when they knew 16 bradleys were destroyed 😊

@lenini056

Жыл бұрын

But the crew survived. ;)

@Tachanka45422

10 ай бұрын

​@@lenini056yes some of them survive but some of them not.

@richardbarton6146

Ай бұрын

oh.. shut the hell up!! what do you know? over 7,000 russian tanks destroyed and counting.

They are being destroyed in Ukraine by the dozen. Poor soilders and what a waste.

@robertluebken3151

5 ай бұрын

Well they just destroyed a T-90M, so…

@ChobeVelyasha

Ай бұрын

​@@robertluebken3151 Not destroyed!!But damaged! And i dont care tank can be replaced crew not,the main thing is that crew survived,unlike Bradley's which always have dead bodies near them

Well turned out to be a nappy changer

"Could" Well our harbors and railway in the Netherlands are reporting around 1300 ifv and tanks are being used to send material to East Europe. Several Bradley's are among them.

Known position of their artillery , Known position of the Bradley fighting vehicle and their laser range finder and the Ukraine army can use the HIMARS on the enemy position.

What makes the M3 Bradley dangerous is the optics combined with the firepower. The Ukrainians will be able to take out T-72s from out of reach. Depending on how many M2/M3s they get it could make a big difference.

@roceye

Жыл бұрын

Laser range finder and GPS will allow them to designate artillery targets.

@peabase

Жыл бұрын

From out of reach? Depends on which ammo the T-72s are carrying. If they're carrying barrel-launched ATGMs, the Bradleys are in trouble. Some types outrange the TOW.

@rickjames18

Жыл бұрын

@@peabase The missiles or Atgms may be able to reach but we have not seen the Russians using them in Ukraine. They have also been using older T-72s with older optics lately which are not better than the Bradley’s. Maybe the T-90s but I’ll leave that to the tank experts.

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

It's very dangerous to its crew yeah😂

Send them everything they need and then some.

Bradley should not use its 25mm autocannon against enemies tanks but its dual ATGM TOW missile....

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

The 25mm destroys optics, IR smoke dischargers and ERA defence.

50 bradleys are now confirmed as far as I know. think thats a bit of a gamechanger.

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

And as of today 47 confirmed destroyed 😁

@KingOstrich

10 ай бұрын

@@azmagaref source: trust me

they drop 3 green crates aswell

French AMX10RC, US Bradleys and now German Marders must be a logistical nightmare. Perhaps every of this three nations should sponsor an entire division with the respective logistical package to ease the maintenance and sustainment process. Reminds me on the use and integration of foreign weapons into the Wehrmacht with different types of ammunition and spare parts.

@hallojutuhb9071

Жыл бұрын

It's not impossible.

@mattsmith-ri3lp

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention they all need to go to Poland or Romania for repairs, of which the Bradley in particular, needs lots

@Joe-og6br

Жыл бұрын

The Wehrmacht weren't getting much help in repairing the foreign equipment as they couldn't get new parts. So had to cannabilse parts, so rapidly went through stock. There is a reason they used millions of horses 😮

@jonhart7630

11 ай бұрын

@@Joe-og6br The main reason was lack of fuel. Hence the fact, Hitler prioritised capturing the Baku oilfields over everything else.

Expect to see these things bogged in Ukraine, narrow track and overweight is going to keep them road bound.

@elchudcampeador5642

Жыл бұрын

+1, this dude knows his things

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

Good foresight.

Ah I can't wait to see Bradleys finally doing their designed job, pushing back a Russian offensive

@mattsmith-ri3lp

Жыл бұрын

Far from it. Not designed as a defensive weapon. Poor armour for that purpose

@Stockfish1511

10 ай бұрын

Lmao.

@jasondreezing1129

10 ай бұрын

16 bradley destroyed in 2 days

@FuckTheState

6 ай бұрын

This comment aged like fine milk

@eannamcnamara9338

6 ай бұрын

@@FuckTheState They seem to be doing their job just fine. yeah some are being lost but that's war.

Awesome ⚘️

They are better armoured than the BTR Ukrainians are used to and they have TOW rocket pods

@peabase

Жыл бұрын

A fairer comparison would be the BMP-3.

@dnate697

5 күн бұрын

@@peabase No it is Not! BMP-3 is a Tin Can and where the Bradley might loose a Driver, the BMP will 50 to 80% of the crew!

@peabase

5 күн бұрын

@@dnate697 A BTR is an APC, while the Bradley and the BMP-3 are IFVs. That's my point.

This machine alone, is designed to counter the Russian BNP and Tanks.. I bet it will smash through Soviet tech like it was a modern tank!

@peabase

Жыл бұрын

If they're used offensively against Russia's main battle tanks, it's the latter's tank rounds that will be smashing through the Bradleys.

@Joe-og6br

Жыл бұрын

Bradley crews would want to avoid tanks at all costs. 😮

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

Yeah we saw how they smashed through and blew up 😂

What is the second black “fuzzy ball” moving horizontally right to left at 1:02?

@letcherross6747

Жыл бұрын

Another Bradley's TOW missile?

1:02 R. I. P the bird

Якраз те що треба щоб нищити pycню. Українці вам подякували!

Definitely an upgrade to GM Humvee. I hope Ukraine really gets this armored and change the Soviet Union invasion.

Full send

In Forces News we trust

@jeanmariedominiquefall7097

Жыл бұрын

In God WE Trust .

It's huge

We’ve got plenty. They’ll be put to good use in Ukraine, and much more valuable there than in our storage facilities awaiting retirement. Good opportunity to cycle through some inventory for a good cause.

Yes! Bradleys for Ukraine! Slava Ukraini!

@peabase

Жыл бұрын

Leopard 2s for Ukraine and I'll join in.

@FuckTheState

6 ай бұрын

Aged like fine milk

Russian commander: Cute tanks, Ivan bring the bois and shoot those rocket and artillery.. 😂😂 slava 🇷🇺

@lenini056

Жыл бұрын

Ukranian crews: you missed because we're alive and well unlike BMPs who kill their crews when destroyed!

@Tachanka45422

10 ай бұрын

​@@lenini056you missed because not all crew in Bradley's was survive same like BMP there is no difference at all.

I thought they had rubber tars back in desert shield.

"It has the ability to destroy a tank" Oh Russia knows

So fast

So why didn't the army buy this instead of wasting 5 billion on Ajax that doesn't work!!

@Vatnik_tschistilka

Жыл бұрын

The states are planning to put them out of service by 2030. The compatition for the successor is supposed to be finishing this year. So getting quiet a few of them for little money, would be very much possible.

@Joe-og6br

Жыл бұрын

It's good to have construction capability rather than just buying equipment off the shelf. That's the theory anyway. 😂

They should find a way to upgrade these with Javelin's or another fire and forget system instead of Tows

@46FreddieMercury91

Жыл бұрын

I guess the Ukrainians will carry javelins or NLAWS on board. Job done

@ThatCarGuy

Жыл бұрын

TOWs can't be jammed, which is their pro.

25 mm mühimmat, kaç mm kalınlığında çeliği delebilir. Rus bmp'leri imha edebilirmi?

Hopelijk blijft het niet bij 50 stuks, 500 zou beter zijn

Send 500, not 50

@thepilgrim6375

Жыл бұрын

Just wait. This is an actual combat situation, not training. Ukraine cannot afford to pull-out 500 soldiers [drivers] from the battlefield. Things must be done in a gradual manner. Remember that Ukrainian soldiers are using Soviet-era vehicles, so training is needed.

@caractacus22

Жыл бұрын

@@thepilgrim6375 I think they can afford to train Ukrainians on all western gear. They have 750,000 men, so let’s give them MBTs apache. a10 and 500 Bradley’s. Hell we 🇬🇧 have 200 let them have those. I want to see the Ukrainians lined up like the Russians were at Kursk, the future of wester Europe is at stake….

Russian T72s about to meet their nightmare...

@shanejean5821

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@MarshalofFrance

Жыл бұрын

@@qqqq-df4ss

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

lmao 😂

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Wasn't that already their own crews.

@illuminatra456

4 ай бұрын

You can include T90s funnily enough. All the people laughing here, where are you know?

Ace in the hole

US has many of these i dont see why they cant just ship half of em over to Ukraine right now and replace those lost with newer model

@thepilgrim6375

Жыл бұрын

I do not understand why you, Americans, cannot think beyond your asses. This is an actual combat situation. Training time is limited, and you cannot pull out hundreds of soldiers from the frontline and do the training. Ukrainians are using Soviet-era vehicles -- training is needed to make Bradley operational in the battlefield. Think first before making a comment.

this is a game changer, that sabot round is Nasty. look it up.

Would have liked to have watched a longer more in depth video than this.

Santa has made his choices clear for IFVs to Ukraine; now a decision has to be made on choosing a tank. And no, it cannot be more T-72s.

@randomname1251

Жыл бұрын

Why can’t it be more T-72’s? It takes about 2 years to become fully proficient on a German Leopard 2, the same for the Abrams. The Ukrainians already know how to use the T-72. Plus, anything captured by Russia gets examined by China. Why should we let our equipment possibly be captured? It’s not really our war.

@jamesbohlman4297

Жыл бұрын

@@randomname1251 because when the mud puddles dry up in the spring, the hammer will fall on those verminous Russian offenders. The Red army has never faced allied air power, nor can their ground forces deal with modern, solid state fire control systems. This needs to end; Ukraine has six months to learn how to speak NATO as a second language.

@peabase

Жыл бұрын

@@randomname1251 The Dutch trained conscripts to such a level of proficiency that they beat NATO regulars with their Leo 2s in annual tank contests. Moreover, Ukraine's tankers just need conversion training. They're not new to tank warfare, like the Dutch conscripts were when their training started.

Get them the warriors out there full chubham armour upgraded

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Warriors front armour is not that great and it has no AT missiles.

>> Bradley IFV's and French Tanks on the way to roast some Orcs! Yass 🤘 Pootin War Criminal Ukraine will Prevail! 💛💙

Please send those to ukraine.

Google "Bradley Square in Ukraine"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

50 have recently been approved. -Reuters

Won't these still need air support??

@mattsmith-ri3lp

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and armoured support. Ukraine has neither in suitable numbers

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Russian Air force has to fly too high to engage the ground due to the amount of russians launched out of tank hatches upto 20,000 feet.

Killed more tanks than the Abrams in Dessert Storm, and the main gun can take out T72's.

@Stockfish1511

10 ай бұрын

Lol yeah they are so good russians named a place bradley square after its glorious firework performance 🤣🤣

Time me mooooooour!!!!

sir my name is Bradley

A POJ! See pentagon wars on their dv.!

Lancet FTW

@dnate697

5 күн бұрын

Cheering for @$$clown Dictators are we?

What happened most of them are lost . Either Russia got them or ZELENSKY sold them

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Got proof?

Ukraine will need armored vehicles to repel the Russian campaign in the coming spring/summer

@andreasbimba6519

Жыл бұрын

Good point but there will be offensives undertaken by both sides during the Winter as well once the ground freezes which is taking longer than average due to the current relatively warm weather.

🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🔥🔥🔥🤙🤙😁

@ICMFX

Жыл бұрын

🇺🇸🇺🇦😊

👍🇺🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧✊

This didn't age well. lol

@clacicle

5 ай бұрын

Speaking of comments that haven’t aged well…😅

@LordDirus007

5 ай бұрын

....... What are you talking about? Seriously what are you trying to say? Because every single thing I seen. Says the Bradley is turning Tanks into swiss cheese

@BugLoverVR

5 ай бұрын

No fr this machine is an absolute unit.

@HocusPocus-db2jd

5 ай бұрын

Damn this comment didn't age very well 😂😂. M2 bradly destroyed Russian tank more advanced then the M2 Bradley 😂😂. I love people like you we need more people like you in this world 😂😂😂.

@sharjinalaviantik9688

5 ай бұрын

@@HocusPocus-db2jd lol what didn't age well? russia literally has a museum filled with captured bradly's. also lets not forget about the graveyard of bradly's at the beginning of counter offensive. 😂😂😂

I hope they send plenty of them and lose plenty. It might spur the USA on to getting something much more state of the art.

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Like what?

To find the position of the enemies. Use the known position of the Ukraine their known position the known position of the Bradley fighting vehicle and its laser range finder and you have their GPS location. Triangulation!

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

?

консервная банка для поросят

It’s time to release them to their natural habitat

@azmagaref

10 ай бұрын

Mine fields 😂

They need to much maintenance for ukraine

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Well they not traveling in far and on home turf.

@haphazardprism

4 ай бұрын

@@BlobB-kn9ww bit late on that reply 😂

one minute 50 seconds? sigh, disliked and back to Perun

That makes no sense! 1st of all, they build what Russians are using. They use the same thing. They're repairing what they capture.

@thepilgrim6375

Жыл бұрын

Another clueless American !

@author7027

Жыл бұрын

Michael Gautreaux Michael Gautreaux =and what Russians are using?

5 weeks-trained Ukrainians to face Russia... FIVE WEEKS.

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

At least they know which way to face the turret and 5 weeks is training in the Uk for infantry before they go back to Europe and do a war exercise.

Bradley is Ez ti take out, All you need is 7 HV Rockets. Ezzze BRAD. M2 ON TOP

We should send warriors, we've got loads of them

This is a dud tank

Sending the Bradley would make sense in a limited capacity, however we cannot draw down too many of these vehicles because they still are the major component of our frontline forces. The m113 on the other hand has been phased out and exported for years, and we’ve sent over 200 to Ukraine. We won’t be able to part with too many Bradleys, however, until we have a replacement. It’s time for our German friends to send Marder.

@Dimka2012Bo

Жыл бұрын

US has like 6,000 of them....they are sending 50 to Ukraine. They can send a lot more.

@Key_highway

Жыл бұрын

@@Dimka2012Bo the US doesn’t produce the hulls anymore and they need to have war reserves

@rogueelement9986

Жыл бұрын

@@Dimka2012Bo Like I said friend, these are in active duty units and pre-positioned stocks that are in storage in Poland. Those stocks could be sent in limited numbers, however we will not empty out strategic stocks in one fell swoop. Fifty is actually a pretty generous contribution right now. I’m sure they will be used to great effect and that more will be delivered sooner than later.

@willw8011

Жыл бұрын

The Europeans, especially Germans and French and British... never real friends of the USA or Americans, just users looking for Eurocentric trade, technology, and defense deals. The USA needs to get out of Europe and NATO. BTW, the USA should support Ukraine, but in a limited way. Any equipment and tech given to Ukraine will be stolen and reproduced and sold to the highest bidder, especially China and later Russia (when they become friends again).

@wigrammartialarts

Жыл бұрын

@@Key_highway To fight who? Russia is the enemy the bradley was built to fight. The bradley isn't useful in a South China sea war.

apparantly this is a terrible vehicle and the US army has been trying to get rid of it now its giving them away to ukraine

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Us now has the M2 version.

almost 1 year past europe still negotiate supporting ukraine. i really dissapointed. i was expecting minimum 100K trained ukraine soldiers armed with western advanced fighting vehicles will be ready in few months after war is started and russia gonna surrender by Q1 2023. germany italy france spain turkey all have thousands of vehicles mostly in depos waiting to rust

@thepilgrim6375

Жыл бұрын

You are disappointed because you are clueless! Ukraine, did not stand up against Russia when it annexed Crimea. So, do not blame western countries and NATO for having a wait and see attitude. Now, it is different. To put it simply, Ukraine now is a very good investment for NATO and western countries.

Bradleys + Marders going to Ukraine.

Unless they send them 1000 I’m not sure the difference this will make vs a BMP2-k? It’s a massive vehicle with a high silhouette, it’s got TOW missiles which the BMP2 has a similar SACLOS via the Fagot or Konkurs. It’s cannon is only 25mm vs 30mm on the BMP. The only thing I can think of is the armour can protect against a RPG and maybe the optics will be more advanced but it depends which version is sent

@enclavesoldier769

Жыл бұрын

The armor is a vast improvement over Russian counterparts, especially BMP-1/2. Better to think of it as a comparison between the BMP-3, which is essentially an equal minus the 100mm coaxial cannon. Protecting against 12.7mm vs 30mm is a lot of protection. The Bradley also has much more sophisticated technology compared to much of what is currently fielded on the Ukrainian battlefield. Laser range finders, stabilizers, gen 2 thermals, or even small things like a camera for the driver to significantly make the vehicle more efficient. It is a great edge for the Ukrainians, although unlikely it will be a M2A3.

@alanaldpal950

Жыл бұрын

The deferences you note are insignificant compared to the huge upgrade in imaging/targeting that current Bradley’s have versus anything the Russkies have

@dougcoombes8497

Жыл бұрын

Kind of depends which model the US sends. M2 ODS with laser range finder will make an excellent observer for Ukrainian artillery. The 25mm Bushmaster is more than effective against light armor and troop positions and the TOW can take down MBTs. This is will be a valuable addition to the AFU.

@voidtempering8700

Жыл бұрын

@@alanaldpal950 I mean, the average Russian tanks uses Sosna-U thermals, which are as good, if not better than whatever the Bradley has. This of course is not factoring in that the biggest killer of vehicles is drone assisted artillery fire.

Us has joined the war

@thepilgrim6375

Жыл бұрын

Really? There is no fun in that! Russia will be defeated in 3 days if USA joined the war. Try harder, Russian troll!

Always thought the nickname "iron coffin" was concerning..

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These will make good tomato pots, for container gardening. 🇷🇺

@author7027

Жыл бұрын

you Russian, what dont you like here?

@ChristianGustafson

Жыл бұрын

@@author7027 You don’t have to be Russian to see that NATO is the aggressor.

@author7027

Жыл бұрын

@@ChristianGustafson ok, tell me how?

@ChristianGustafson

Жыл бұрын

@@author7027 Well, you just blow the tops off them and fill the space with topsoil. Don’t forget to prune the suckers.

The Ukrainians are now sending them back 😂😂Proxy War!!

Great news with the Polish Leopards and German Marders Ukraine can drive Russia out of Crimea

Only 2 TOWs? And then?

Norway ignored the Bradley in favor of the CV90. As did Sweden obviously. The Bradley proved to have issues operating in difficult terrain and snow. Plus it's 25mm gun falls short compared to a 30mm or 35mm or a 40mm. It is also not suited for armored assaults, with troops fighting from the vehicle. With troops fighting mounted you have more eyes spotting targets and more guns engaging enemies. For Bradley-troops to be effective, they must dismount and thus slow down the unit to a walk. It is essentially a glorified APC and a terrible IFV. Its one redeeming quality are the TOWs. As a tank hunter, the Bradley does well in ambushes. But if you pit Bradleys vs most other IFVs, the Bradley would not come out on top. All that said... I still think it will be effective in Ukraine, because the Russians are incompetent. The TOWs will be very effective against clueless Russian vehicle crews. So in the end, despite its obvious shortcomings, against poor opposition, I think the Bradley will be useful. An IFV needs to bring something extra to the battlefield. In WW2, German panzergrenadiers fought almost exclusively from their halftracks, rarely dismounting. Because this allowed the unit to be mobile, it could advance or withdraw when required, no need to stop and wait for infantry to dismount or mount up. It allowed the panzergrenadiers to move with the tanks without slowing them down to a walk. The Bradley does not allow for such aggressive maneuvering. It is not a vehicle that assaults positions, it taxis troops to a location where they can dismount. That's basically an APC. That's all it is. It is a terrible IFV. APCs have used 20mm guns for decades, and the Bradley is an APC with a 25mm gun. Remove the TOWs and you have an APC. And if you're claiming a Bradley offers anything an APC does not, you're delusional. An old APC with a 20mm gun, with hatches that allows 4-6 soldiers to spot targets and shoot at infantry offers move offensive capability than a Bradley. Without the TOWs, it's a glorified APC that can't hold its own against Swedish or German combat vehicles. It is not suited for IFV work. But the TOWs are it's saving grace

@scruffy7760

Жыл бұрын

Germany have sent Marder 1s. Same principle as the Bradley. A 20mm autocannon and old school wireguided missiles. But the Germans have replaced the Marders with Pumas, sporting a 30mm autocannon and updated missiles. The TOWs are still old wireguided missiles. The Bradley is still using a 25mm. Compare this to a Swedish CV90 with a 40mm autocannon capable of firing HE at infantry, SABOT at tanks and Proximity Rounds at helicopters. Plus, the CV90 allows the dismounts to fight mounted from hatches, just like WW2 panzergrenadiers. The dismounts can spot targets 360 for the crew and can engage enemies sneaking up on the vehicle with antitank weapons. And, in the assault, the dismounts can fight from the vehicle, enjoying the protection and speed and mobility of the CV90 while engaging the enemy. And if you wonder if this is still working, so long after WW2, Ukraine has used these tactics in this very conflict. Riding tanks up to Russian trenches, dismounting within 0-50m of the enemy and pushing in to point blank range. The Bradley was not designed for such aggressive maneuvering and tactics. Because it's an APC in all but name. Heck, there is a CV90 variant with French Akeron missiles, true fire and forget ATGMs without wire guidance. The Bradley is old, outdated and not a modern fighting vehicle by any standards. But I still think it will perform well against the Russians, because they are quite simply incompetent.

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

@@scruffy7760 its high velocity 25mm and very accurate high rate of fire. See the Bradley performance in both Gulf wars.

the bradley is like one of worst vehicles I think we just donated these so we could start removing them from operational use. Its missing so many of our new advanced heavy armor countermeasures

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Hehehe yeah gulf war part 2

Good 👍 Send them to Ukraine ✊🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦👍

"The Pentagon Wars"

@thepilgrim6375

Жыл бұрын

Try harder, Russian troll!

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Don't send the abrams tank so it can get in russian hands

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

its old and would confuse them even more.

В украине уток много

Lol lost to cavemens

1980 made... 😆😆😆😆😆

@author7027

Жыл бұрын

are you native American?

@BlobB-kn9ww

4 ай бұрын

Compared to what the T-90 is an upgraded 1970s tank.