M120 was a fantastic design, pretty sure they are quite durable too, as were most Mercedes engines of that time period.

@chiefdenis

2 жыл бұрын

As the original m120 was slightly based off the bulletproof m104, i would imagine they were quite durable

@stuvademakaroner9607

2 жыл бұрын

It's made of aluminium and it's very complicated. Of course it's very hard to service and unreliable, compared to iron inline 6 engines

@dennis-br6vr

2 жыл бұрын

@@stuvademakaroner9607 for a v12 it was really reliable! same counts for v8 engines like the m113 and m113k. bulletproof, but offcourse some engine parts do tend to die when getting old. and its a pain in the ass and costs a fuckton on a v12.

@TheNecromancer6666

2 жыл бұрын

They were terrible! They underdelivered on Power, a 500 was just as fast, They tended to overheat, They drank fuel at an absurd rate.... and They were a Solid 100kg heavier then a comparable BMW or Audi engine

@anoniem4862

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNecromancer6666 You really don't know what you are talking about.

Best V12 engine. Reliable, tuningable and sounds like peace.

@fodaogamer1

2 жыл бұрын

Not reliable kkkk

@jacobm2625

2 жыл бұрын

@footballcoreano name an unreliable japanese engine

@vidar8117

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobm2625 every engine is reliable if you take care of it

@micahrlusk

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacobm2625 There's lots

@dietznutz1

2 жыл бұрын

@@vidar8117 uhhhhh to a certain extent yeah

M120 + 600 SEL = ultimate Mercedes-Benz masterpiece

The Metallurgy in the M120 is pure genius. The silicon-Aluminum Alloy sleeves can run up to 500k with virtually no wear

@NeverDieKnight

2 жыл бұрын

I like interesting informations like this thank you.

@cmkm54

2 жыл бұрын

Most German cars from this Era have this bore structure. It's actually a bit of con not a pro, impossible to rebore the engine. Say debris scratched the bore, you either have to get it sleeved or get another block.

@jafu745

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmkm54 Yeah, Nikasil liner is the bane of BMW engines too... And you can only look at the light smoke coming out the exhaust.

@Thinginator

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmkm54 If you wanted to increase the displacement, could you remove the sleeves, bore out the block, and put new sleeves in? This is very interesting.

@cmkm54

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thinginator it's not sleeves, rather it's the actual material structure of the engine block. Think of it as a coating not necessarily a sleeve. The problem is the aluminum part of the bore will be removed by a hone, whereas the silicone portion remains. Creating a spongey surface with pits all in the metal. This is because the silicone is MUCH tougher then the aluminum.

Those were some of the best sounding engines I've ever heard.

I got a 1997 S600 and I drive it everyday to work with no problems. I do all of the preventative maintenance myself.

Jaguar may have been the first company that offered the V12 engine to the masses but it was Mercedes who offered it with refinement and a level of perfection that can't be overlooked!

@paulie-Gualtieri.

2 жыл бұрын

The jaguar V12 was a boat anchor compared to this masterpiece

@mikaeltahtinen528

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulie-Gualtieri. engine made in the 70s weighs 12kgs more than an engine made in the 90s... boat anchor you say.

@offthegridwithbert924

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulie-Gualtieri. the Jag V12 was an engine that had the sound and the pedigree of a marquee however the engine the public received was far from what it could and should have been, it’s not a boat anchor in any sense it’s simply a product of it’s time, the Mercedes V12 is by far my favorite and I have owned a Jag V12 years ago and it’s nowhere near as refined.

Wow, those exhaust notes, beautiful. Formula One has become so quiet these days in comparison.

@CableWrestler

2 жыл бұрын

F1 engines had a different crank configuration, so sounded completely different

@mememanfresh

Жыл бұрын

@@CableWrestler could you tell me the difference

On KZread there is a channel from an American who went to japan make a custom straight-equal length titanium pipe for his Mercedes. It sounds insane, like a classic F1. You need to hear it.

@S3kbTheGreat

2 жыл бұрын

effspot

@kleetus92

2 жыл бұрын

Link?

@Danse_Macabre_125

Жыл бұрын

@@kleetus92 kzread.info/dash/bejne/h61ryNeLpcednJs.html this is one of them

That Brabus burnout is LEGENDARY! One of my favorite videos! 5:49

@mrman7837

2 жыл бұрын

one wheel peel😂😂

@aboodmki3

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrman7837 open-diff owner daily struggles 🥲

@mrman7837

2 жыл бұрын

@@aboodmki3 😂😂

Have had 2 of the w140s both 500SELs and they are by far the most over-engineered Mercedes-Benz to date best car imo

That CLK-GTR is amazing, looks like a fighter jet.

@tonychavez2083

2 жыл бұрын

And they were actually quite quiet on the track in competition. Very smooth and quick motorcars, I saw them win in Monterey FIA GT in 97'

Effspot approves this content.

Great video as always Visioracer!! My dad had a 1997 CL600 in Florida from 99 to 2012 .. such a beautiful engine.

Those were the times indeed...

Old school Merc 6.0L 48 valve V12 (M120) with only 389hp. The 500 and 600 SL were very nice cars back then yes.

Still doing a great job with your presentations. Thank You.

Wow I can’t believe you made this video! It’s such an iconic engine that nobody thinks of.

This is awesome! I can understand why people buy these despite ownership costs

Thanks for the content VisioRacer. It's an honor to have our car shown in your video @3:27 and the next clip too. 👌

I have a 97 s420 and my engine is just fine 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾going on 25yrs

Also Renntech tuned SL74 and a Carlsson tuned one, too. There really isn't much information on the tuned models unfortunately, I'm glad you found what you did! Edit: oh and there's also supercharged models, I think Carlsson made one

@kaiserlex6141

2 жыл бұрын

Renntech e74 screamer

@masturone8257

2 жыл бұрын

I think those motors were renntech and brabus own with different crankshaft etc they were not modded benz motors

@burekking5306

2 жыл бұрын

Once i saw a carlsson sl73 in my city - Sofia, Bulgaria. The owner was a mafia guy from Bulgaria. I couldn't believe what was in front of my eyes, because the people there drive cars for 1000$ and suddenly i see a Carlsson sl73..

My first car was a 98 S600 i loved that engine,so smooth and powerful

@fidelcatsro6948

2 жыл бұрын

you lucky cat my first car was a 73' 1200 Datsun

@GF-mf7ml

2 жыл бұрын

1.3 daihatsu

@Uc9uE3pKsS6uQ

2 жыл бұрын

wanna be my last car

Thanks for great content Visio Racer. It's cool to notice our car showing up twice in the video :)

Very good video! Thanks, man!

Such a great vid! keep up the good stuff!! Good story and as always: perfect balanced combination of screaming engines and interesting information.

@VisioRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, my pleasure! I will keep them coming

Mate, your videos are one of the very few that I’ll let the ads play all the way through. 👍

Awesome motors. many thanks for the videos.

Seriously tge best sounding engine EVER! And i am like you, very diverse taste!

Great video dude I really enjoyed the noises 😊😊

Definitely the best v12 ever (that went into road vehicles)

@asbquez6494

2 жыл бұрын

how about the bmw s70/2

@dietznutz1

2 жыл бұрын

@@asbquez6494 no

Hello you have mastered English a very proper job indeed lol i remember the beginning days of this channel and you've improved so much! Keep it up!

Off topic....but I remember a few years (or so) back when you switched from text to voice-over for your videos. Your english was plenty good but it is amazing how proficient you've become in speaking it in such a short time! I remember people crying in the comments because they can't handle change - and you didn't let it stop you from always getting better...and it definitely paid off!

@VisioRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Nice of you to mention this, Chris. Thank you, it happened so subconsciously simply by narrating over and over again

Great video, good content👍

Best video for a while! ;)

I think a V12 Benz might need to get added to my automotive bucket list. There's an SL600 for sale near me at a very attractive price but since I don't have reliable access to a garage I'd better not... 😅

@farley9255

2 жыл бұрын

Lol not gonna lie... Once my crypto makes me rich(😆) my plan is to have a SL500 and Slk32 AMG as lawn ornaments 🍾😎

@Danse_Macabre_125

Жыл бұрын

@@farley9255 Fuck it, buy an R63 lol

the 12 thousand dollar exhaust fom mr sasaki where is!!!!

nice edit, Visio, thanks

With 12.000$ exhaust system, you can hear f1 car sound

@thiccboidexter2863

2 жыл бұрын

nice.

@HRM.H

2 жыл бұрын

Effspot 😂

@yusufsefacan3260

2 жыл бұрын

@@HRM.H yeah thats guy 😄😄

What a perfect pronunciation, like a music!

I’ve always wanted to find a wrecked Zonda, pull the engine, and put it in a Mercedes. Supercar engine in a luxury sedan :) But alas, parts cost money.

@Joshua_N-A

2 жыл бұрын

Wrecked Zonda, better not having the rear wrecked the most, that's where the engine is.

@Tetrathegod

2 жыл бұрын

Wrecked zonda is still a zonda …

So true, the greatest V12 ever!!

That's a great video!

man i missed your videos!

Great video as always dude, M120 was and still is a fantastic peice of mechanical engineering. As we're a lot of the 90's engines, but the M120 by far has the best sound with equal length headers. But even right down to the humble M111 that engine can almost double it's hp if you don't keep blowing headgaskets, then the M104 around even before the Toyota 2jz but just as capable without major modification a 3.2 m104 with rods and headbolts/studs will see 800+hp. And then you have the M119 again a boostable v8 that with minimal work will produce great results. Mercedes really put effort into all its engines if the time period for ultimate reliability (even if a few Victor reinz headgaskets tried to end that early) this is why I like my 90's Mercedes cars so much, even if occasionally things do go a bit wrong normally they're easy to fix. 👍

Merry Christmas brother from South Africa 🇿🇦

@VisioRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Merry Christmas!

Mercedes produced so many legends in the 90s,M120,M119,M104,OM605 and 606,etc etc..

Man the sound of the last mercedes ohhh🙏

Your pronounciation really improved over the last few years. It's been cool to watch your progression !

@VisioRacer

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Amazing size and sound.

Do m113k next.

Incredible!!

Great video! When I see those power plants I am lucky about my two cylinder motocycle with 46 hp, which goes pretty well.

7:05 sound is 😍😍😍

A class leading engine one of the world’s best!

You weren't kidding, that last model sounds like Ayrton Senna's McLaren MP4/6 f1 car.

Imagine an 8.0 L W18 engine in an s-class

@shannonstaschik2086

2 жыл бұрын

Yuck

@EngiNetion

2 жыл бұрын

isn't 8L a bit small for 18cylinder?

@Damien.D

2 жыл бұрын

It would make 9l in a W18 configuration.

@Danse_Macabre_125

Жыл бұрын

@@Damien.D no, they actually had plans for an S800 8.0 W18. Not a 9l

Love it!

Well done grenouli

M120 and M70 are legendary German V12

@jgordon165

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so fortunate to have one

Those were the days!

Mercedes reliable engines are always the ones the same time are what mercedes uses in their factory race cars. The v12 was excellent because it was being used for racing. The same way the 4cyl in 80s was or the inline 6. Now that small displacement is the focus that they can add electric motors too the most impressive engine they build is the 4cyl turbo that the cla and a class models get.

fantastic

What an amazing powerplant

and what we have now ? 3 cillinder shit that breaks every minute

I Love this car 💕💕💕

I often searched for footage of those rare SL 73 models.

verynice👍

Those engines sound great with a ex manifold changed to simetrical lenght tubes. Just like first car sound was

I liked the old boxy cars, more masculine. And the swoopy cars of the 60s. Now everything is bulbous.

I WANT THAT WAGON!!

Freu mich schon auf das JP Projekt

Any one of these would make the most insane sleeper-engine!!!

Motor lendario! ,m120 melhor motor da Mercedes! , poderia fazer um video dos v12 BMW tambem?

@sean87

2 жыл бұрын

He’s done one before 3 years ago on the S70

Let's goo I found a chassis for one

My neighbor has one of these and it sounds like a supercar

0:40 HUNGARY YAAAAY

That 4 eyed w210 e class tuned by brabus might be the greatest sleeper of all time. Definitely going to try and build one, if i cant find one for sale.

What's the engine you were talking about at the end? Like, the type number, or where I could find some more information about the beast. Sounds crazy and amazing!

"iT's NoT a M-b, It'S a PaGaNi"

Effspot is a KZreadr who has a s600 with a brilliant exhaust, it's crazy...

@Clones2011

2 жыл бұрын

TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLAR EXHAUST

Effspot like this

When you mention Brabus you also should inform about the Carlsson M120 mods.

Awesome video. please can you so one on the M119 motor... almost as talented

@jeremyaustin9103

2 жыл бұрын

@Mr Calcium couldn't agree more. Try breaking one...they still are still comparable with bang upto date V8s

Super 🎅🎅🎅🎅👍👍👍👍

Cl 7.3s brabus ✊from Russia with love)

You put talking a Hero Puch 50cc single cylinder. Thanks!! I put a credits link for descripton for the Channel KZreadr Renatinho da Hero Puch

0:09 wtf never seen that drift before!

I saw on google people commenting if it would be possible to put the head of the pagani with the m120 engine in the m104 engine, is it possible to put the head of the 6.0 v12 or 7.3 v12? What parts of the Zonda m120 are possible to install?

can recommend Oliver Amon's channel, w202 with m120 turbo drift car

Please do the 7.7 litre tvr v12 next

Sigh, you are right VisioRacer.. Those were the times..

yes also from the SL v12 same engine 1995

I just bought a 98 C140 V12 coupe last week. I’d like to get a proper exhaust for it!

Greatest V12 of all time!

Please bring the vídeo talking about BRABUS CLS Rocket V12 year 2006.

Despite Wiki and Pagani website, no such thing as AMG-Tuned Seven Litre and 10CC engine exists. Correct specs are 7055 and 91 x 90,4 mm bore and stroke.

if the Cloak Makes The Man then without doubt the engine makes the car. Back then serious cars had real powerplants under the bonnet.

When was the last time MB offered an actual manual transmission? I'm not referring to a SL series, just any series, what year? And why?

Do you think you could do a video on unique subaru engines?