M113 APC: Exist. Every countries on Earth: *Slaps some turret from some outdated tanks on.*

Basically how you'd draw a cartoon tank to keep the animation frames simple.

Reminds me of the Philippine Army adding Scorpion turrets to M113s.

@bryansammis998

Ай бұрын

Remember the Australian army added a Saladin turret to the M113 during Vietnam.

@petergray2712

Ай бұрын

​@@bryansammis998ARVN added M8 Greyhound turrets to a small number of their M113s.

@HerrZenki

Ай бұрын

products of necessity and circumstances s'all

@ALV694

Ай бұрын

Is scorpion turret 90mm

@yousuck785why

Ай бұрын

I wish my country had better equipment

You know that your APC design is so good if you can also put a tank turret on it.

@iivin4233

Ай бұрын

Someone needs to design an upper deck/floor to bolt onto the roof so that brave Filipino and Ukrainian roof riders can be safe from mines and small arms at the same time.

@bruhbruh3847

Ай бұрын

​@@iivin4233what??

@michaelhowell2326

Ай бұрын

At first glance, maybe. The M113 is not a good combat vehicle. It's a battle taxi or box car. Me strapping a cannon to a Ferrari doesn't make ita good idea. But a 113 with an AT gun is better than just a guy with a slingshot.

@nunyabidness3075

Ай бұрын

@@michaelhowell2326Yep, everybody loves the M113 until they are assigned to one after the shooting starts. It’s a value buy.

At 1:45 you see Madame Chiang at the side of the Generalissimo. She died in the US in 2003 at the ripe age of 105, the last surviving stateswoman of WW2

When the British Army 'retired' the Fox armoured car some turrets got placed onto 'retired' Scorpion CRVT to make the Saber others were grafted onto FV 432s to create the Fox on a Box concept I have absolutely no idea of the level of official approval for these constructions but they're certainly interesting and show a way of prolonging the service life of AFVs/APCs

@gunner678

Ай бұрын

The 432 with various turrets was for opfor at Warminster

@misolgit69

Ай бұрын

AH I had wondered ​@gunner678

@billballbuster7186

Ай бұрын

Well neither of those conversions worked well, the Sabre had issues which meant its front line service was only about 2 years before it was packed off to the Yeomanry. While FV432/30 was only used by Berlin Brigade.

@christineshotton824

Ай бұрын

There is a strong desire among frontline troops to have fire support in the form of mobile bulletproof boxes mounting a big boomstick, regardless of whether or not the analysts say it's obsolete.

@tadget0566

Ай бұрын

@@billballbuster7186I was going to say the same thing the 432 with the Fox turret was in service when I was in in the late 80’s the Sabre didn’t appear till the 2000’s

The M-113 is basically the Swiss Army knife of the tracked world. It lends itself to modification and upgrade with ease. It will be around in one form or other for decades to yet come.

@jacaredosvudu1638

Ай бұрын

M-113 is everything

@EdyAlbertoMSGT3

Ай бұрын

I dont think its as much of it being good for modding as it is that everyone had it and everyone also needed to modify it for one reason or another

"Everybody Wan Cheng tonight..."

Mike Sparks ultimate killing machine

@MFitz12

Ай бұрын

Ah, good ol' Sparky. Wonder how he's doing these days.

@Balrog2005

Ай бұрын

@@MFitz12 Imagining newd delirious ways of using the M113, maybe now the ultimate submarine/APC combo.

@MFitz12

Ай бұрын

@@Balrog2005 - Do you suppose Sparky is _still_ a 2lt?

@shaider1982

Ай бұрын

Meh, doesn't have the flight package🤣

@c3aloha

Ай бұрын

Needs amphibious kit

The 75mm of the M24 had a better high explosive round than the 76mm of the M41. This is why the French put M24 turret’s on AMX chassis rather than the standard 75mm AMX 13 for fire support

Greetings and applause from Taiwan. Great content you've made! I'd like to add some supplementary information regarding the title of the project, 萬乘. The second character actually has two pronunciations in Chinese. One is "chéng", meaning "to ride", "to chase" or "to multiply (numbers)". The other is the meaning used here, referring to the unit of counting chariots (i.e., it is a numeral classifier for chariots), actually is pronounced as "shèng". So as a whole it is "wàn shèng".

I still say that this hybrid tank reminds me of the light tank from the very first two Command & Conquer games: Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert.

Every body Wan Cheng tonight.

Gotta say, I like the ADF's M113 FSVs

Another odd combination: the 6x6 Cougar the Canadian Forces fielded in the 70s and 80s. Keep up your excellent work!

Everybody Wan Cheng tonight

Gaijin when?

@copter2000

Ай бұрын

The best they can do is another M4 variant (this one got a different variant of radio!)

@RedXlV

Ай бұрын

Both tank games ought to add this thing. In World of Tanks, it would close that weird Tier 5 gap in the Chinese light tank line. And in War Thunder, the China tree has so many copy-pastes that *every* indigenous creation is a must-have.

@user-wn1le3cx3w

Ай бұрын

Concept M113/M24 Light tank BR 3,7 or 4,3 :/ Movement dynamics like overweighted m113 and M24 turret without brownings

Finally, someone who knows the real situation and status quo of Republic of China (Taiwan)🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼

Id love to see a video on the Singaporean AMX-13-105 and the Singaporean CRVT with a 90mm cockerill gun. I think they are great conversions. Great video! This is a tank ive never seen and im a proper tank nerd. Off to bovington tommorow to go to the tank museum on Saturday haha 😊

Holy shit I always thought of why wouldn't any engineer put a turret on a M113 chassis since it has been so very well tested, and look what I see now! lol I wonder if its still possible to develop a specially purposed turret for it tho, I have always seen capable and roomy APC designs as very good candidates to develop easy armored fighting vehicles. Not full blown tanks, but capable IFV.

@gunner678

Ай бұрын

The Dutch Belgians and Turks all have 113s with turrets making a very successful IFV. A lot have been sent to Ukraine, all doing good service.

@yaya_is_real

Ай бұрын

@@gunner678 >all doing good service.

@stupidburp

Ай бұрын

At this point it would make sense to use a remotely operated turret such as CROWS. Put an automatic grenade launcher, heavy machine gun, or minigun on it. Relatively low investment and low weight added to keep it nimble. Need to keep mobility good otherwise it defeats the point of a light armored tracked box and would be better off with a truck instead.

The m113 is a versatile platform it can carry a lot of weight and its reliability is legendary

Everybody Wan Cheng tonight. (I date myself)

Finally some new Metal Shit🗿💪🔥💯

The franken tank I rather like is the Cuban BTR with the modified T-55 turret.

Everybody have fun tonight When I take the Weng Chung to fight.

4:56 Looks like a great concept. Especially for the time period that was first introduced. Great job Australia.

everybody have gun tonight everybody have gun tonight everybody wan cheng tonight everybody have gun tonight everybody wan cheng tonight.

For the M41's hull with the M18's turret, it's a strange conversion, given how more powerful was the M41's original gun, both had the 76mm, but M41's one was more modern and powerful, plus the turret of it was totally enclosed and better protected.

@genericpersonx333

Ай бұрын

Mind, the hulls were sourced from M42 Duster, 40mm AA platforms, not the M41 tank. Taiwan had M18 turrets and weapons, the US Army was selling M42s cheap at the time, and so Taiwan saw the Type 64 as a way to get more use out of the still viable M18 components. Also was good practice for their developing domestic tank industry which was looking to be based primarily off derivatives of the M41.

@dy031101

Ай бұрын

In the past ROCA still had the ultimate goal of military reclamation of Mainland China, and light tanks were more maneuverable in Mainland's southern region & would have thus been useful not only for reconnaissance but also infantry fire support whereas more-powerful tanks like the M48 were expected to see relatively limited use until the reclamation pushed into the Central Plains.

Cool video man

Am I the only one who thinks it looks a little bit like the Bradley before the Bradley is the Bradley we have at home 😂😂😂😂😅😅😊 ❤❤❤❤❤❤

Not gonna lie this looks amazing

Great video!!!

Gaijin: and i see this as an absolute win

Amazing Work Great Presentation 9:40 You Sure That’s 30-06?

I ❤ the looks off taiwanese M113 with chaffe turrets and Aussies M113 with scorpions.. I respected their military engineer ingenuity to improved their AFV with limited budgets. Makes M113 Looks cooler and with their upgunned M113 will surely can give good fire support to infantries, M113 crews can defend itself better and helps bolster taiwanese defensive fire power. Just like having a bunch off M2 Bradleys..

Oh hey looks like a Warhammer 40k Predator and Whirlwind tank. Neat vid

Remember that APC, Gavin, you picked on in Highschool? He's an IFV now.

There really doesnt seem to be any turret/Gun/Missile/Rocket that hasnt been experimentally installed on an M113 :) Nice Video

Aussies with Saladin turrets

M113 with M24 turret, Ok I think I seem everything

EVERYBODY WAN CHENG TONIGHT

Not sure it's a Frankentank, but the Norway modernization of the M24

It is basically a sound idea and, had the Taiwanese been dealing with a case of having many more M113s than they needed, it would have made a lot of sense. As it was, however, keeping the limited number of M113s as APCs was probable the best idea.

Well it looks nice

Got to give a like for the title alone

Israel built in the 1980’s I think it was a M-113 with a long barrel 60mm gun. Might have only got to prototype stage.

They Wanted an IFV So They Made Their Own Highly Respectable

Rallying Gaijin with this one!!!

viva la República Popular China, la verdadera China continental, formosa es una provincia rebelde

I had a hotwheels toy of this

😮it would make a good platform for the bob semple a2

I would imagine the Wan Chung would have been dangerously top-heavy as the M-24 steel turret would have been a good deal heavier than the Saladin and Scorpion turrets used on the Australian M-113s. The entire Scorpion light tank being only 7.5 tons compared to the M-24's 20 tons.

Not sure why this McGuyver has _gained notoriety_ since they only built one.

Chaffee Gavin ;)

64式我比較喜歡

You can build this in Cursed Tank Simulator and then give it a twin 30mm off the Terminator or just plop a TOW launcher in the turret.

Wasn't there a US concept that put a 90mm turret on some M113s?

This is the exact same logic that converted the Rhino APC into the Predator Tank.

EVERYBODY WANG CHENG TONIGHT

When you take your Chaffee to McDonald’s

Yes officer it’s stock

Did I miss the reason they even tried? Were Chaffee hull parts no longer available or something?

@nunyabidness3075

Ай бұрын

@@rubberwoody And you cannot use the Wang Chong 2 as an APC either. So, why?

@rubberwoody

Ай бұрын

@@nunyabidness3075 i think the video says it?

@nunyabidness3075

Ай бұрын

@@rubberwoody The video says they moved the engine to the back so the ramp cannot be used. That leaves only the front bay for passengers, and he says that hatch is also not used. So, it’s not going to be useful as an APC if the driver’s hatch is how the dismounts come and go, lol.

@rubberwoody

Ай бұрын

@@nunyabidness3075 the video explains why the modification was done around 4:10. Chaffee hulls and parts were obsolete, worn out, and becoming difficult to maintain. The m113 was modern and more widely available. The chaffee's gun was still useful.

@nunyabidness3075

Ай бұрын

@@rubberwoody Ah, thanks for finding that. Sounds kind of reasonable.

Heh, 'with Chaffee charicteristics'. Nice name.

Bosnian T-55 with M-18 turret.

@0.25 is that a panther with a panzer iv turret ??

@rubberwoody

Ай бұрын

worldoftanks.com/en/tankopedia/51473-G32_PzV_PzIV/

@genericpersonx333

Ай бұрын

Yes. The story appears to be that it was literally just the non-functioning turret of a wrecked Panzer IV sitting on the hull of a bergepanther (a turretless Panther hull used for recovery purposes) to disguise its use as an improvised command vehicle for a German battalion. By putting a "turret" on the turretless bergepanther, the hope was the enemy would consider it just another tank among the many, instead of the battalion commander's personal vehicle to be prioritized.

@ComradeMP187

Ай бұрын

Single field conversion called "Berge-Panther mit aufgesetztem Pz.Kpfw.IV turm als Befehlspanzer". A Bregepanther (recovery vechicle) had a turret from a Panzer IV H mounted in the hull opening permenantly. The turret did not rotate and the gun is a dummy with no breech. Was used as a command vehicle.

@Saturnus_Ouranos

Ай бұрын

It was in 0:25 not 0.25, lol

@anthonylewis679

Ай бұрын

@@Saturnus_Ouranos Well.......that cleared THAT up😂

The Chaffee varient looks like a fat m5 Stuart

3.7 rank 3 I believe......

send this to Gajin

now put wings on it

I am surprised that the Soviets did not step in as Taiwans arms supplier if necessary via proxy

@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044

Ай бұрын

In the late 60s and early 70s when the Soviets were feeling out love with China and in turn Taiwan was feeling out of love with the USA they had some discrete trade in materials and items but nothing military it seemed

Anybody want to be that this will end up on WoTB??

Gaijin when..

Ah yes, the Taiwan meme tank.

Wan Cheng Gavin 😂

They got the GTA vice city tank.

Hot Wheels Battle Tank

Taiwan retains its official name “the Republic of China” only because neither the United States nor the People’s Republic of China allows Taiwan to change its official name to Taiwan.

Even to this day turkey actually use this hulll to something similar

@TanksEncyclopediaYT

Ай бұрын

That's actually based on a further development of the M113, the AIFV.

@kakakiri2601

Ай бұрын

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT so it's a bit different?

Israel had the zelf with 60mm version. So did Brazil and Argentina

Don't let Gayjin The Snail see this

Gajin gimme

Tanmk be like:

God dammit not even the m113 is safe from the "nato hump"

Snail I want this.

Warthunder next free portion battle pass tank. better than wehraboos or russian objekt "fictional" ground battles lineup.

I love how Nationalist China is portrayed as some benign Liberal Democracy ......... And them having the seat in the UN was always laughable , would be like Puerto Rico claiming the US's seat 😂

Looks completely useless

@jon-paulfilkins7820

Ай бұрын

Don't look at is a tank, more a STuG for the modern age. Think fire support in an M113 mounted mechanised platoon/company. Keeps your logistics and routine maintenance simpler than if you mixed in a separate vehicle type. Also despite the costs of modifying it, still cheaper than a propper tank.

@papalegba6796

Ай бұрын

@@jon-paulfilkins7820 I prefer to think of it as useless. Because it is 😂

@Balrog2005

Ай бұрын

@@papalegba6796 Look at the terrain in Taiwan...it's just mobile firepower and light.

@RedXlV

Ай бұрын

For what Taiwan was facing at the time, it would've been a potentially useful fire support vehicle. Like they said, the first wave of any Chinese invasion would've been amphibious light tanks whose armor would be very much vulnerable to a Chafee's 75mm gun. Along with infantry, against whom gun that can fire high explosive firing gun is useful. If their Chafees were worn out and didn't have a proper replacement in the pipeline, the idea of mounting the turrets on something else as a stopgap made sense. It's just that they didn't have enough M113 hulls to spare for it to be worthwhile.

@c3aloha

Ай бұрын

@@papalegba6796the M5 Stuarts of Kinmen disagree

Gaijin when?