A Guide to PLA Tanks from 1956 to Present (Are They Any Good?)
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Ever wondered what Chinese tanks were like? What stuff like "ZTZ99A" or "WZ120" actually means? How long has China had tanks? How do you even tell them apart? And, importantly... are they any good? This video aims to answer all these questions and more, taking you on a journey through Chinese tank development and making plenty of stops along the way.
With thanks to Andrea Yu, who helped me immensely during the script writing process.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:16 T-54A = Type 59
02:38 Designations 101
04:00 Not REAL Communists...
05:23 Project 121
05:57 Sponsor Message
07:10 Type 69
08:10 Type 62 & 63
09:03 Type 69-II
09:37 Type 59-III & Type 79
10:18 Please? Maybe? Unless?
10:39 Type 80/88 (Boo Hiss)
12:10 Type 85 (Woo!)
13:20 T-72? Somehow?
14:08 Type 96/96A
14:53 Type 98/99/99A
16:52 Type 15(?)
17:25 Honorable Mentions
18:25 Outro
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@germanpanzer38t
Ай бұрын
When red wrench gaming???
@Who_Knows-kp1yq
Ай бұрын
Most people who watch your videos have already sold their soul, and physical body to the snail. There is truly no escape from the all-devouring grasps of Gaijin.
@ADVS.
Ай бұрын
sorry bestie i already have top tier china, ZTZ99A is peak gameplay
@nebula4702
Ай бұрын
If z = zed, is a zebra a zed-ebra?
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
Ай бұрын
Nothing "bizarre" about the history of Chinese MBT development .
To be fair, the Type 62 was built for use in the high mountain and jungle regions of the country where larger MBT's could not operate effectively. While now long obsolete, if you look at the geography where they were deployed, the time period and the potential opposition the Type 62 makes total sense AND would cause real problems.
@23thenicu
Ай бұрын
This is exactly why it received a successor in form of Type 15
@MFitz12
Ай бұрын
@@23thenicu - Precisely. Type 59 (ZTZ-59 today) is also still around because in some of the more remote and rugged areas it is just a better tool for the job than the heavier Type 96/99.
@jerryle379
Ай бұрын
Type 62 was pretty shit for jungle and mountain , china already has a perfect light tank for that role aka the type 63-85 amphibious light tank , use the same gun but it also can swim , the tank show it usefulness in Vietnam war and there good reason for why Vietnam only ask for type63-85 and didn't ask for the type 62. Why use type 62 if you have t54/55 and type 59 the terrain that you can use them are the same , but you get worse armour and gun. If place you can't use t54/55 and 59, the type 63-85 performs much better than the type 62 as it is lighter and amphibious meaning it can cross river / stream / lake.
@MFitz12
Ай бұрын
@@jerryle379 - I guess you got it right and the entire PLA got it wrong for 50 years then.🤦♂
@WangGanChang
Ай бұрын
@@jerryle379type 63 is too long and physically too large (as it needs to float in water) which mean it would often get stuck in steep or tight terrain and need help from engineers to get it out. Which delays maneuver and attract enemy fire. After action report from 79 war give it a extremely poor review relative to type 62, and type 63 is treated as pure amphibious tank afterwards rather than rivines as well. On a flatter terrain perhaps Type 63 would do better, but remember southern china is very hilly as well, terrain that would pass type 62, would not necessarily pass type 59 or type 63 without serious engineering support.
I CAN’T ESCAPE THE SNAIL.
@krle7970
Ай бұрын
Have you prayed today?
@superburrito9797
Ай бұрын
Chinese tanks are pretty fun in war thunder. Its so funny when a Object 292 players shoots at the ZTZ-96A's ufp and doesnt pen 😂
@TeterPiago123
Ай бұрын
The snail is pretty lazy when coming to chinese, ground at least, selective historical aqruacy and faulty models are big problems, especially the breach armor for all the modern ones.
@superburrito9797
Ай бұрын
@@TeterPiago123 My biggest complaint is the lack of chinese ifvs and light tanks in the higher BRs. And honestly i would love to see the Chinese jet trainers in the tech tree. Like the JL-9 and JL-10.
@TeterPiago123
Ай бұрын
@@superburrito9797 ya, that would be great, but because of the lack of open source information on the viechles and different standards (like apsfds pen stats, like its testing standards) it is really up to gaijin to decide on the vichel's shittyness, and usually just make Chinese vichels worse versions of similar russian ones not, despite clear video evidence off improvements (99 and 96's reload rate)
Oh boy! Finally! A Chinese tank guide for idiots like me!
@masonicrat
Ай бұрын
I like your content Eta
@THB1945
Ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT IT'S ETA
@radiomanhans
Ай бұрын
its eta!!
@tonytortora3660
Ай бұрын
more tank museum content when
@kv_of_the_ground4453
Ай бұрын
IS7 video when?
One of the biggest challenges to Chinese engineers is probably, geography. With exceptions such as the PTZ-89(designed solely to resist the Soviet armor), most tanks will have to consider every possible conditions where China could fight a war: this includes the mountainous border with Vietnam, the Tibetian plateau against India, invasion of Taiwan hence naval landings, possible US invasion of a much diveresed coastal terrains, and lastly to face the Russians on its borders. It is because this we see Chinese tanks having no special traits or raw stats, but meant to operate in most theaters. In regions where MBTs are simply not impossible there are light tanks. This is one of the more interesting tank building schools to look upon, namely how it corporates the ideals from two worlds into a domestic design.
@dominuslogik484
Ай бұрын
it also doesn't help that china struggles a great deal in developing new concepts for their vehicles, with their newest tanks being derivative of the T-72 and the Light tanks are largely derivatives of the PT-76. not to mention that their armor configurations are basically identical to Russian Composite armors with heavy ERA that functions the exact same as Russian ERA.
@JundRaptor
Ай бұрын
@@dominuslogik484 Not necessarily a bad thing though. Saves a lot of money if you can skip the decades of research to copy the best parts of Russian (ERA, autoloader) and Western (transmission, FCS) tanks.
@ThugShakers4Christ
Ай бұрын
@@dominuslogik484that's because it's hard to think creatively without a soul
@MasterChiefFloyd
Ай бұрын
Bugmen
@thesovietshark8945
Ай бұрын
@@ThugShakers4Christuhh?
He's alive!!
@shinchan-F-urmom
Ай бұрын
Huh typical westoid propaganda comment Westoid shut up
@Booz2020
3 күн бұрын
Kim Jong Un: Please, hold my SOJU 🍶
I don't think people give China enough credit for their tank designs. Sure they took a while to get going, but they have a lot of unique and interesting vehicles, especially when you dive into all the prototypes. Thank you for the general overview, as it can indeed be a difficult subject for the average person to get into.
@mnd7381
Ай бұрын
But all come from mostly Soviet designs. Even the modern Type 99 chassis is influenced by T 72. So not as much credit as you'd give the Russians or Germans.
@yixianli4651
10 күн бұрын
@@mnd7381by the same token, leopard 2 and Abrams are derivatives of kpz70, which then influence the rest of mbts in the west. German leo2, Korean K2, japanese type 90 etc. all use rh120-l44. American M256 gun is no exception. There's nothing wrong with using somebody else's good designs
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
Күн бұрын
Rheinmetall is a german company. And Koreas K2 motor and fire guiding systems are derivatives of the german produced engines and systems. They also try to copy the sensors. But yeah the modern MBT is a co-invention of Britain, France and refining it into what we use since then was germany
@jansenstardust504
13 сағат бұрын
99 and 99A look very similar, but in fact, apart from the appearance, they have basically been changed all over. China often does this in the design of military equipment, another typical example being the H6 and H6K. Apart from the aerodynamic appearance, the Chinese have replaced everything inside: new engines, new fire control, flight control, and radar. As for why not change the appearance: it's great, why change it?
Chinese 125mms are actually longer than its Russian counterpart, L/50 vs L/48 in Russia. It also has higher chamber pressure borrowing tech from 120mm gun used in type 89 destroyers. A even longer L/52 gun was used in the early 2000s in some Type 99A models (sometimes refered to Type 99AG), however, it has less bore life and improvements are marginal so it was eventually dropped in later productions. Also there is tons of experimental models 60s and 80s that never being adopted with feature like integrated ATGMs and hydraulics suspension. Similarly, Chinese 105mm are actually L/62 vs L/52 barrel length used in NATO. Though modern variants dial back barrel length to L/52, since its ATGMs are seen as it's primary anti tank weapon rather than chasing max projectiles performance.
@ivan5595
Ай бұрын
The way I see it is that, the 125mm is limited not by barrel length, but by the autoloader designed around it; unless the type 99 has made the autoloader width to fit in longer propellent charge/newer shells
@asimjabbar8445
Ай бұрын
Wow thanks for the insight. You can publish your own detailed videos about the Chinese military tech with that info. Chinese have developed a plethora of cool looking weapon systems that nobody knows about.
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
Күн бұрын
@@asimjabbar8445 Sadly every single of these was „inspired“ by either soviet or some western countries vehicles and published prototypes. Even their 40mm Gatling-IFV
When the world needed him the most, he returned
I like that you present the vehicles without overly focussing on the Soviet vehicles they took technologies from. Often I see people present Chinese vehicles as simple copies of their Soviet "counterparts" when in reality they are completely indigenous designs once you go past the T-54A. This has been especially the case recently with the Type 96 and Type 99, which are often just presented as T-72 copies, when in reality, the only similarities appear to be in the autoloader and gun. In fact, you also mention an interesting theme with Chinese tanks, which is that they sometimes are more Western than Soviet: from the use of the L7, earlier adoption of welded turrets, to the technology exchanges with the US and Germany that lead to a more Western style of composite armour and transmission (e.g. unlike the Soviet tanks, Chinese tanks feature Western reverse speeds). It's like an evolution of the T-54A separate to the Soviet T-series that combines indigenous design and Western technologies with reverse-engineered Soviet technologies. One could even follow from the Type 59 through to the Type 96 and argue it is a T-54A modified beyond recognition rather than any exact copy of a Soviet tank.
@AllMightyKingBowser
Ай бұрын
Exactly the reason I like Chinese tanks more than Soviet/Russian tanks. Now if only they could figure out a way of getting rid of the carousel auto loading mechanism, Chinese ZTZ99s would be perfect.
@Drownedinblood
Ай бұрын
I think people oversimplify because they can't really see Chinese having their own philosophy. The reality is China needs many types of vehicles for the different terrain, especially since they view themselves fighting defensive war, rather than offensive. I can't imagine an Abrams or something like that fighting other western style MBT's in altitudes like the Himalayas or them doing too hot in jungles. Japan actually has a similar issue, where they deploy their Type 16's down south while have heavier Type 90's and Type 10's up north because they don't need to get island hopped as much.
@92HazelMocha
Ай бұрын
It's the conflation of "copying" with reverse-engineering. China looks around at all these other technologies and concepts all over the world, figures out how and why they work, then decide how to best incorporate it into their own indigenous designs and improve upon them. It's how they went from having 3rd rate military equipment to being arguably the best equipped military in the the world in less than 4 decades.
@garethjones4742
Ай бұрын
@Drownedinblood to be fair we Australians use the Abraham's. They're not entirely useless in jungle environs but they're just too big tbh. But that was an issue with our leooards too
@teslashark
Ай бұрын
99 uses the suspension of T-72 while 96 is basically a scaled down T-54 suspension jointly developed with Romania.
Love the video!!! no stupid biased oppions, just pure truely technical stuffs and details!!!!!!
8:15 interesting story: As type 62 used a tunedown type 59 engine. They can actually be swapped. Legend said there were type 62 going full Ferrari when the maintenance crew accidentally install a type 59 engine into it(which has 100 more horsepower)😂
@yottadrive
Ай бұрын
What is the reason why the Type 59 engine was tunedown?
@kaixcheng
Ай бұрын
@@yottadrive light duty transmission and suspension couldn't handle the extra speed.
@MyownYang
Ай бұрын
@@yottadrive tunedown means better duration for both engine and all these transmission parts.
@leontam221
Ай бұрын
@@yottadrive also the chassis is lighter thinner. Can't take the stress.
ZTZ means 装甲 坦克 主战, which translates to English as Armoed Tank Main battle. This designation was formed following the 2012 Central Military Commission document called:中国人民解放军装备命名规定(Regulations on Naming Equipment of the Chinese People's Liberation Army). So, type 59 never had its designation as ZTZ-59. These regulations only hold the place for Q(轻型(qing xing)-light), L(两栖(liang xi)-amphibious), and Z(主战(zhu zhan)-main battle) for tanks. Some times people refer to 59-II as ZTZ-59 II. However, this is impossible due to its development era during the 1990s, when the regulation had not even been published yet, and it may be really confusing because the majority of Chinese just call the tank xx式(type-xx) a form of soviet legacy.
@_yamcha
8 күн бұрын
this comment is underrated
@StarFury2
8 күн бұрын
A lot of great information, thanks for the comment!
@Pigpig55
2 күн бұрын
👍
And now just like that we see even T-55's are useful because of their ability to kinda be artillery pieces. It seems like China keeps trying to find ways to get rid of the 59 inventory, craziest thing I seen them to was try to turn them into drone tanks.
@leontam221
Ай бұрын
More crazy things like swapping a type 96 turret on it😂
@Drownedinblood
Ай бұрын
@@leontam221 the bengali one?
@leontam221
Ай бұрын
@@Drownedinblood Tanzanian one
He’s back
A Chinese KZreadr said that china also got their hands on a T-80 after the collapse of the USSR that motivated a more better Type 99 in the prototype phase
@WangGanChang
Ай бұрын
Chinese did not T-80s, but Russia did bring T-80Us to China during 90s for marketing, some say a small batch of T-80Us are purchased, but there is. I confirmation and no T-80s have ever seen in PLA colors. Also Pakistan operate T-80UDs and co-develops MBT2000, so there would lots of crossover.
@akriegguardsman
Ай бұрын
@@WangGanChang it could have been independently purchased from corrupt officers and was probably never put into service They might also have borrowed it
@mosesracal6758
Ай бұрын
@@akriegguardsman For the MBT2000, it was a technology transfer so it isnt a stretch that China didnt necessarily have to buy the tank itself but only its technical data especially as the powerpack used in the MBT2000 is from the T80U iirc.
@AntieCathyria
Ай бұрын
This is a notorious myth around China military fans. There is no evidence that T-80 was sold to China, except a picture that some Chinese generals and engineers checking a T-80. And that picture was showing Russia wanted sold T-80 to China in 1990s, in Russia. And China just did not buy it. So not only Chinese did not buy T-80, but T-80 never came to China for sell.
@LTW76
Ай бұрын
China also obtained the early German Leopard 2 tank
I love this content man, easily one of if not my favorite channels on KZread.
@magnetiteberet69
Ай бұрын
Can I lick it?
Very well put together
Really excellent research...I myself have been looking into PLA anti-air PGZ types and artillery PLZ types as they are also fascinating as their tank ZTZ types. Well done on this video.
WZ stand for Wujibu Zhuangjiacheliang(五机部装甲车辆), which means Fifth Mechanical Department Armored Vehicles.
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Awesome video! I think I’d be really cool to see more of these types of videos with different nations, instead of focusing on a singular design.
actually ztz stands for armoured tank main battle basically mbt
I think that Osprey Productions makes really nice books covering development and variations of tanks (I have PDFs of T-10M, T-54, T-55, T-72 and T-80.) but I'd love to get some books covering Chinese equipment with good photographs of the vehicles and paintjobs. This country is my main in warthunder, I really like the tree. Nice job
Another great video ❤
Good job! The video was a great rundown of the major Chinese tanks...
Type 62G id love to see in Warthunder.
11:37 Driver praying the commander doesn't rotate the turret left.
16:59 Type 15 was designed specificly for operations on fhe Tibetan plateau. The motto was "those who can meet me in the battle ground can't beat me, those who can beat me can't meet me on such high altitude".
Oh god he got a war thunder sponsor. The game is fun but don't get sucked into it. The devs are highly predatory and the only thing they want is your money, not to make a fun game.
@sirbachelorboredmen1314
Ай бұрын
Woah, predatory towards JUST the money, right?
@StarFury2
8 күн бұрын
If there's an advertisement for something, avoid it.
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
Күн бұрын
@@StarFury2if its „free to play“ avoid it. Atleast only NOT if it became free to play after years or by accident because the marketing flopped. Just the game not having been played as free to play in the first Place
We should sign an international treaty on tank designation simplicity.
nice summary, you did a very good home-work
Thanks! Now I know where to hit which tanks. 👍
Okay that photo at 10:25 goes pretty hard damn.
Its officially a good Friday now!
As a history buff and a tank enthusiast, this is an interesting video. Thank you :-)
Speaking of the T-10, could you do a video on it and maybe the IS-7?
The reason for having three different designations, if I remember correctly, is not that confusing - the WZ one comes from the designing institute to mark the set of blueprints; the ZTZ one comes from the manufacturing factory to mark the production project; the Type one comes from the army to mark the in service equipment. As such, an in service tank must have all WZ, ZTZ and Type designations, a prototype tank must have WZ and ZTZ designations but not a Type designation, and a designing tank on blueprints has a WZ designation only.
i like the type 62 so much its my favorite tank for some reason. anyways great video bro!!
@IM_8685
Ай бұрын
yeah kinda my fav too but since I just researched it in warthunder who knows I might hate it.....
The thing about tanks is we don’t know how effective they’re going to be until they tested under battlefield conditions this also applies to the Chinese variance
@hewhoplugwalks
Ай бұрын
Well, we already know how the Type 59 and it's variants perform, since they've plenty of combat in the Middle East. As for the more modern stuff, like the Type 96 and 99 or their exports like the MBT 2000 and VT-4, you're absolutely correct in saying that they're unproven.
@mnd7381
Ай бұрын
@@hewhoplugwalks since it's Africa, I'd ask what type of combat? Only fighting against rebels or against proper tank regiments and Artillery and modern anti tanks?
@hewhoplugwalks
Ай бұрын
@@mnd7381 Mostly against insurgents and antiquated armor and light vehicles, which they've proven rather useful in that role.
this is relevant to my interests
War Thunder finally prompted me to study Chinese armored vehicles, and it's the only reason why I know anything about them. From purchases, to domestic production, to derivative designs, and finally to the heavily inspired unique vehicles that we know today. Truly, a fascinating history to look into, and now China is my second priority nation in War Thunder thanks to how much I came to enjoy it, and playing their vehicles. A side note on the designations. These actually changed in the sub-designations like "-II" and "A" at some point in the 1980s, so going through the history of tank variants is very inconsistent. For instance, there's the Type 63. Then there's the Type 63-II, with minor improvements like a laser rangefinder. More recently, after the revision, there's the Type 63A (or ZTS63A), which is a completely reworked design with a new hull and turret, new gun, etc. The new designations don't have the roman numerals for the same modifications anymore, just a letter for major variations. Same for more modern versions of older tanks like the Type 59. There's the Type 59A, Type 59-IIA, and then there's the Type 59D1, Type 59G, etc. It's all very confusing unless you know the details of what variant came when, and why it was designated as such. There's also the Type 99A, which technically is a largely different tank from the Type 99, but was going to be named the Type 10, which would conflict with Japan's MBT of the same name. So, probably for political reasons, it was decided to call it the Type 99A instead.
by the start of the video, you really got to make me play China in WT. Then it was also the sponsor. Nice.
7:27 Nice
The 125mm cannon on the type96 is a upscaled smoothbore L7!
Would you make the video about some of the armoured vechicle programs of Poland, for example Goryl, BWP-2000 or Anders?
this channel is gold
You got a like and a sub at "confusing designation alarm"
Very informative video, videos on Chinese tanks are scarce and even information in general is hard to get.
Can we have video on the British Heavy Tank projects after the Is-3 was shown in Berlin Victory Parade? (40 ton Centurion, Coaernarvon, Cheiftain, and Conqueror.)
Finland next?
14:49 That's a Type-96B
Good video. But you forgot the type 96b.
8:32 this is a type-62 captured by the Vietnamese during the border conflict in 1979, one of the first combat deployment of this tank by the Chinese. Before this, it was actually deployed by the Vietnamese to fight in the mountainous
Nice Video.❤
Hope you will make this kind of video on other countries aswell
@RedWrenchFilms
Ай бұрын
I’ll see if people enjoy it!! Haha
@mnd7381
Ай бұрын
@@RedWrenchFilms we do! Different top contending countries' military equipments and their history!
Pretty Nice Vehicles, I Wonder When The Modernisation Of The Type 99A Will Happen
man you've made me want to grind YET ANOTHER nation in war thunder come on man
I think the Jaguar MBT would be something interesting to mention next time as it did have some impact on Chinese tank development from the Americans till certain square you know what incident
This video reminds me a lot of a publication I did collecting everything I could find and resuming it. I published a short version on Quora and Imgur. Main article of mine is Tanques Chinos, del T-54 al Type 99 in the Zona Militar Forum, from some years ago. I also did American Armor, del T20 al M60. Which I never finished, only left out the 60. Someday I'll finish it and start Soviet armor, from the Bt-5 to T-62.
@jonseilim4321
Ай бұрын
感谢分享! 您博客是最全面的之一
@Argentvs
Ай бұрын
@@jonseilim4321 can translate on the cellphone app. Don't know what you say.
@jonseilim4321
Ай бұрын
@@Argentvs said gracias for sharing, your blog is one of the most comprehensive I've seen!
If you stop the video at 0:02 that's just beautiful XD
I wish you talked a bit more about the modern Chinese MBTs and how they compare to other modern designs, maybe for another video. Is the auto loader safer than Russian MBTs, or will the turret fly off as soon as something hits it hard? Does it have comparable armor to modern MBTs, etc. I'm not sure if we have much information though, that's why we usually don't hear much about Chinese vehicles in general.
@RedWrenchFilms
Ай бұрын
Yeah exactly Michael - I honestly just do not know their capabilities or how they compare. We can guess, obviously! But that’s not very entertaining or informative. Who knows how capable their guns/armour/ERA/APS are..? It’s all classified for every modern tanking nation unfortunately!
Great vid. Also what about a video on tanks created to fight in high altitude (ie the TAM, the chinese type 15 or whatever the indians have cooked)
Great video! Japanese tanks next? They have quite cool cold war tanks.
7:25 NICE!
As the largest country in the application and production of drones, the view that tanks are useless in modern warfare is very popular in Chinese civilian military forums. I even think that the Chinese military agrees with this statement, so the Chinese Navy launches new ships every year, the Air Force is constantly producing the latest aircraft and advanced drones, and the People's Liberation Army ground force can only display: Hey bro, look !this is the new combat shoe we issued this year, it is so damn cool! The tank is considered a necessary unit in Pla but does not need to emphasize performance. Its existence is only to force the enemy to use heavy firepower to fight, rather than using the tank itself to win the war. So 99a has been unchanged for almost 20 years, while Leopard 2 is going to be a7v. It's not completely same, at least the tank crew's shoes must be new frame.
@RedWrenchFilms
Ай бұрын
The view that tanks are useless in modern warfare is an incredibly uneducated take. China especially has been very focused on tank development, and the Type 99A has only been in service for around 13 years and has been changed a lot even in that timeframe.
@zhu_zi4533
Ай бұрын
This is very wrong, because without heavy armored vehicles, infantry and light vehicles will become even more desperate under the massive drones and long-range strikes, thus losing their already poor breakthrough capabilities and falling into complete trench warfare. At least for now, no one has anything to replace this armored vehicle, and it is normal for fierce battles to produce a large number of casualties and losses.
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
Күн бұрын
Source: some dude who told me in a youtube video
7:27 NICE
In fact, the biggest threat to tanks on the battlefield is no longer tanks, but a large number of rocket launchers, anti-tank missiles, suicide drones, long-range artillery and aviation weapons. Since the beginning of this century, the PLA has been deeply aware of this and has focused its attention on the development of long-range multiple rocket launchers, modern self-propelled guns, anti-tank missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles, and has invested major funds in improving the informatization level of the force, striking precision and speed. The development of main battle tanks is even less of a priority in all defense projects than armored vehicles and infantry fighting vehicles. In general, the Army is vastly underfunded compared to the Air Force, Navy and Rocket Force. In the Army, the modernization of the armored forces was neglected.
Your awesome be safe out there
Correction: ZTZ stands for Armored, Tank, Main Battle (Zhuangjia, Tanke, Zhuzhan)
Very interesting
There is a thing called "Dogmeat general tank", it was the first tank china ever made.
@Shadowless_Kick
15 күн бұрын
Why did that tank get such a funny nickname?
@syysyy3526
Күн бұрын
@@Shadowless_Kick "dogmeat general" is the nickname of Zhang Zongchang, a warlord of Republic of China (A.K.A Taiwan). He gave the order to build this first domestic tank and formed the most efficient armored troop during the Warlord Era. btw, since this tank is just a prototype, so it does not have an official registration code nor a name.
I'm currently grinding down a Chinese tank in wot now at tier 9 (wz-120) thanks for the guide... I wonder what BZ stands for tho?
@scottjurrjens8954
Ай бұрын
From my limited research, apparently it has been speculated to mean Border Defence Vehicle but there haven't been any official documents or reports that confirm this.
what about the VT 4?
@SMRchannel3
Ай бұрын
It's a semi downgrade export of Type 99A
@xvbd6067
Ай бұрын
@@SMRchannel3 and yet is virtually identical and has active protection system, I am still confused about the two
@SMRchannel3
Ай бұрын
@@xvbd6067 i think it had reduced armour and inferior optics, hence semi downgraded
@xvbd6067
Ай бұрын
@@SMRchannel3 well i guess an older composite armor and inferior optics is possible but still, i think an APS mell compensate for that, if it works that is
@wz111official4
Ай бұрын
@@SMRchannel3VT4 is actually the improvement of mbt2000, it's amor design is different. I think it's disign is better than 99a, especially the course angle protection.
Gratz for sponsorship! I hope they cut you a good deal
I would love to see a video on the Patton tank family. Starting with the Pershing and its influence on the design of the M-46 all the way to the M-60
The Type 96 literally looks like a T-72 built with western collaboration which it is! combines the best of both worlds looks wise. i would love to see the variations of the Type 96 and T-72 directly compared.
ZTQ-15 does look awesome. Dont know about its capabilities, but it definietly gets points for how it looks. Very cool light tank. Way better than 2S25
@profesercreeper
Ай бұрын
Most likely more armored than the 2S25 but it only has a 105 compared to a 125. Also don’t know how much more armored it is and if it can shrug off infantry based anti tank weapons.
@AllMightyKingBowser
Ай бұрын
For real, that ZTQ15 and the new M10 Booker, alongside with the German Boxer compete hand to hand for best looking light tank in the world. (whatever the US army says, that Booker is definitely a light tank, they don't fool anyone lol)
@Brigadium75
Ай бұрын
@@AllMightyKingBowser >Built a light tank >Look inside >Weights 40tons
@92HazelMocha
Ай бұрын
@@profesercreeperIt's significantly more armored than the 2s25. It sports FY-5 ERA which is incredibly effective against shaped charges even tandem ones, and severely decreases the penetration of sabot. When paired with the GL-5 hard kill APS (which can intercept and degrade sabot) it might even be able to shrug off older APFSDS rounds from certain frontal angles.
@Postoronniy
Ай бұрын
2S25, despite being functionally similar to a light tank, is technically classified as a self-propelled anti-tank gun (hence its GRAU designator for self-propelled artillery - 2S), and a battery of them forms part of an anti-tank battalion in the artillery regiment of an airborne division.
The Gulf War didn't prove the obsolescence of the tank. It just proved that old one couldn't keep up with modern ones. Just like muzzle loaders aren't obsolete, they just can't compete with an M-4.
@saltzkruber732
Ай бұрын
Thats what he said
@michaelhowell2326
Ай бұрын
That may have been what he meant but that isn't what he said.
@RedWrenchFilms
Ай бұрын
Is that not what “obsolete” means? Doesn’t mean unusable, just means it has been surpassed technologically.
@michaelhowell2326
Ай бұрын
@@RedWrenchFilms please forgive me if I misunderstood what you said. I thoughts that you said that bc tanks were killed by tanks that meant the tank concept was completely obsolete. I will just have to rewatch it. It was good video regardless of whether or not I misunderstood that part.
@RedWrenchFilms
Ай бұрын
@@michaelhowell2326 Ah, it’s probably my fault. I meant “tanks” as in models or designs, not tanks as a concept. Many countries in the Cold War tried to load up on ex-soviet equipment thinking that more tanks = better, but the gulf war showed that technology had advanced enough that even 100 T-54s would struggle against 5 M1 Abrams for example.
Amazing video, a solid research with good information however, the main cause of the Sino-Soviet conflict was the oppressions on industrial and economic support to the PRC and intention to deploy nuclear weapons from USSR in the border area, this was also one of the triggers for the border conflict in 1969
Are you going to complete the cobra helicopter
Tbh when you have 6500 tanks who is going to argue?
@ims3312
16 күн бұрын
But the DJI T40, which is priced at $10,000, can carry 50kg and may be equipped with an anti-tank launcher and four 10kg armor-piercing shells. 10,000 dollars vs 10 million dollars, is the tank still useful? Of course, I ignored the anti-drone weapons.
@user-co6vr9es9n
13 күн бұрын
@@ims3312 但无人机无法占领一个地区,每一种武器都有合适的用法
@AbuHajarAlBugatti
Күн бұрын
@@ims3312 There are easy solutions still in development making your argument null. 1: dedicated antidrone turret and counter drones operator like in the neo leopard prototype 2: automated anti drone turret 3: lazers(in a decade widescale deployed) 4: electronic jammer development and widescale usage, which has proven more and more succesful by russian forces 5: autonomous hunter drones
You missed the VT series tanks! Chinese weapon systems need much more attention because there's not a lot of easily available info about them on the internet. I hope you would expand and do detail videos in the future
@zhu_zi4533
Ай бұрын
I remember that VT is the prefix of the foreign trade tank. I heard that the prefix of V means "victory", but I seriously doubt that it is actually a similar sound to the W of "foreign trade".
@mnd7381
Ай бұрын
@@zhu_zi4533 i mean they are only for sell so it checks out. China wouldn't sell the Type 99A, except maybe Pakistan? They do trust them with tech.
0:24 why do I see a blank screen?
@cybernetic_crocodile8462
Ай бұрын
Because there is nothing to see here, citizen. Continue watching and don't worry about it.
@jw1731
Ай бұрын
"Anyone with a quantum of common sense will perceive this: if our valiant armored force drove on, could this scoundrel have stopped their advance? The pictures captured in this video, contrary to the narrative certain western outlets seek to present, are the perfect proof that our troops exercised the highest degree of tolerance and restraint." -- CCTV report
@mnd7381
Ай бұрын
+5 social credits comrade, now continue!
The Chinese may be a bit clumsy but they ain't entirely dysfunctional. Never underestimate an opponent. Would love to see you cover some systems from India Subscribed from India
@dominuslogik484
Ай бұрын
I have always been curious why India doesn't use more indigenous weapons systems and still is largely using imported weapons from Russia. Surely with such a massive population in the working age brackets available and such a large economy India could be an arms exporter rather than Importing. though I will give credit that it seems India is moving away from its heavy reliance on the Russian federation for weapons which would prove problematic if a conflict with either China or Pakistan ever occurred.
@adisura9904
Ай бұрын
@@dominuslogik484 so the issue is that after Independence India went for a more socialist form of governence, leading to closer ties with the then USSR. Initially india during WW2 had some manufacturing industry, it was very small and wasn't taken care of by the then British Crown, in terms of both funds and policy. The idea was to not let india modernise and have the ability to out manufacture the isle, and obviously to make sure technology doesn't fall in our hands. Colonial times were interesting lol. Anyways. All that background to let you know that India had a very small manufacturing capacity post WW2 and Independence. So the govt took control of all industry under the infamous License Raj leading to sluggish if not a total paralysis in any form of innovation. Post WW2 India was majorly a western equipped force with Shermans, Willis jeeps with recoil-less guns, spitfires and the rest of the band. But through the 50s and 60s we started acquiring more soviet systems as distance between the west and India grew. This led to a balancing act by India between the west and the soviet. Note: India was a founding member of the Non-Align Movement. So technology transfers were limited and no real manufacturing could be done with existing systems. Although Jugaad (Frugal/cheap innovations) led to some interesting mix of western and eastern tech. Even today indian systems often have a variety of western and eastern systems. It should also be noted that we did have better relations with the French and the Israelis compared to the Brits and Americans. Another important thing to note is that due to the license Raj it was very difficult for anyone to setup anything in the country. Hell even Indians couldn't really set up a business due to stringent laws and beurocratic red tape and yes corruption. By the 80s some licensed manufacturing was being done in India, like the Mig21s. Small less important sub systems were also being made in India although at a lower level. Most of the manufacturing was less intellectually leaning and more fire and brimstone like lol. I should point out like I did earlier that Indian systems tend to be on avg better than it's russian counterparts. For example our sukhoi 30 mki with israeli and french avionics were so good that Russia ended up copying the upgrades to the now well known Su27M if I'm not wrong. The Mig21 India is phasing out rn is a highly potent aircraft even today, after it was upgraded to the Indian standard called the Mig 21 Bison . It is perhaps the only Mig that ever shot down an F16 (this feat is highly contested by the Pakistanis and I could go on about the details but this is already too long) An Infamous project called the Arjun MBT suffered from multiple challenges such as lack of technological know how, over estimation of the current manufacturing capabilities, poor planning, unclear goals, constantly changing qualitative requirements led to massive delays. So it's not like the Indian govt should be given any quarter on this topic as well. We did try to make our systems, for example the HAL ajeet was a licenced copy of the Holland Gnat, which helped HAL later manufacture Asia's first supersonic jet, atleast on paper as the engines it was supposed to get were denied due to sanction from the Americans. This led to a bad taste for the govt. It did not want to provide funds it did not have, and there was no political will to establish a military manufacturing industry as such. A Very limited vision our leaders had i must confess. Interestingly this jet I am referring to was designed by the famous german aviation legend Kurt Tank. The aircraft was called the HAL HF 24 Marut. But now the current govt is focusing more on creating and expanding the industry. There are problems even today, but ig we are atleast walking in the right direction. Might look pretty gloomy and non serious for a nation wanting to be seen as a major power, but our missile programs are really good. And other industries are also coming up. The LCA tejas took it's time. But it helped India establish a manufacturing base. People don't often understand that India and many other countries our on the whims and fancies of western nations and have been so for a long time. So any diplomatic disagreement can lead to sanctions and cancellation of deals. Which often did happen. But I guess those are just optics. Although I should say that now it is alot harder for the west to do that on account of India being a major growing economy. Cheers I hope that somewhat gave you an idea of what and why.
As a Chinese, with some military knowledge. that I can tell you that ZTZ stands for”Zhuangjia-Tanke-Zhuzhan/装甲-坦克-主战/armored-tank-mainbattle.similar case like PTL02,炮兵-突击-轮式/paobing-tu ji -lun shi/artillery-assault-wheeled. It’s a bit weird but thats exactly official naming rule, I still don’t get why armored and artillery are both can be putted in first place, also how “tank” and “assault” are a same kind of word that both putted in 2nd place. It is confusing.
Thanks are vulnerable to air attacks they should develop or equip tanks with some form of aerial defenses against drones and rockets and missiles.
@RedWrenchFilms
14 күн бұрын
Air defence systems already exist - armoured units already operate with mobile air defence vehicles embedded.
4:05 they're producing copies from that long, hence that's why they're good in it nowadays even more.
Do you play War Thunder Dear Red Wrench ?
@hiphip4808
Ай бұрын
No way he doesn’t
@RedWrenchFilms
Ай бұрын
I do!
@hiphip4808
Ай бұрын
@@RedWrenchFilms Knew it
No mention of the VT-4(MBT-3000)?
Tank video!
WZ means wujibu+zhuangjiache (五机部+装甲车),fifth mechanical department+armoured vehicle,that's why WZ is similar to OBJ that reffer to a prototype
I think the last z in ztz is actually, zhuzhan,main battle.
A lot of misinformation, but still a pretty good try. For example, the parade vehicle of the WZ123 project is not called "type 98", but called "project 9910 demonstration vehicle" for WZ123.
@John-pk4jm
Ай бұрын
one more thing, you missed the whole project122, Including "Campaign 2-4" and "Campaign 784".I think this is the most interesting part of the history of MBT development in China.
@RedWrenchFilms
Ай бұрын
Hi John - I really struggled to find any concrete information on Type 98/9910 designations. I do say right after that that many consider the “Type 98” to simply be the first batch of Type 99s (or similar) so hope that goes some way to showing there is a little bit of uncertainty. As for the other campaigns I just felt that they weren’t necessary for such a basic and surface level video - maybe I’ll touch on them in more detail later.
3:01 W+Z = 五+装 = 五机部+装甲车辆 = Fifth Ministry of Machine Building + Armoured Vehicle, you missed the first part. Also, the second part pronounces ZhUangjiache not Zhangjiache
Can we have South American tank guide next? I mean they have pretty goofy tanks like a M3 Stuart with a 90mm gun
Mandate of Heaven *intensifies*
Yes thank you
Bro is ambassador of the snail
as warthunder player i approve this