Maybe Mick missed a few cords. At least he was playing live.

@lassel1644

Жыл бұрын

Do these dudes even play chords🤔

They use backing tracks for the bass, but keep Vince's awful live vocals?

@SLiMCHiCKeN5150

Жыл бұрын

Nikki has sadly become the epitome of the poser he once condemned

@EricDodsonLectures

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the bass is even worse than the vocals.

@BangBang-hk4rg

Жыл бұрын

Because if Vince came out on stage and sounded good everybody would know it was fake. 🤣

@pauls5096

Жыл бұрын

@@EricDodsonLectures Well, you ain't gonna see Nikki Sixx's name on any list of great bass players that's for sure.

@scottbrower9052

Жыл бұрын

As bad as Vince's voice is (and always has been), Nikki's musicianship is worse. Just let that sink in for a minute.

Mick's been the best musician in that band for a long time... turns out he's the most solid dude in it as well :)

Damage the bands reputation? ROFL Mick is the only one that doesn't have a bad reputation!

Nikki was trying to convince Mick that the fans of Motley Crue were unhappy with Micks guitar playing. Nikki, the guy who's entire performance is taped and who NEVER played a live note, is telling the only guy in the band who was playing live, that hes not up to par. Nikki...shut up. Micks guitar playing WAS the sound of Motley Crue whereas your bass playing couldn't even be heard.

If Motley Crue Never Had Mick Mars In The Band, Then Those guys would probably be working at Taco Bell Today.. That's A Fact!!

Mick should get with Corabi and hit the road with new material . That would piss Nikki off .

@user-zc9fj6vk5x

Жыл бұрын

I would pay to watch Mars play, sitting, standing laying down….however he needs to do it.

Nikki Six never has learned to play bass. What f ing joke.

Is this really a surprise? MC has been doing this for years, probably longer than any of us know.

@briandarazs6620

Жыл бұрын

@Manish Mims Yeah, you're probably right. It seems the norm these days. Personally I hate it.

@briandarazs6620

Жыл бұрын

@Manish Mims Aint that the truth. The thrash are keeping it real. You can see it clear as glass during the show. A few years back, 4 maybe 5 years ago, my wife and I went to see Slayer, Testament, Anthrax in a triple headliner. Great show, but what stood out was how real it was. Warts and all, its real. Now mind you these 3 bands are so talented there really was not any warts to be seen. Just pure live talent. The way its supposed to be. that I will pay for, gladly.

@briandarazs6620

Жыл бұрын

@Manish Mims That is a bummer. But I sure wish I could of seen that retirement show. Primus at a Slayer show? really, what were they thinking LOL. Sorry to hear that bud.

@briandarazs6620

Жыл бұрын

@Manish Mims LOL, same here. I think that was the 7th time I saw Anthrax, first time was 87 or 88, something like that. While we were leaving the show, everybody was talking about just how good the show was considering how long those 3 bands have been around. Start to finish, flawless.

@shaunduffy8019

Жыл бұрын

Definitely since the the Dr feelgarbage tour!

The odd wrong chord or forgotten part is chicken feed compared to Vinces abysmal vocal performances and not just on this tour but pretty much the last 20 years.

@BangBang-hk4rg

Жыл бұрын

For real!

@andrewhagopian468

Жыл бұрын

Vince could never sing from day one!!!

@doormasterjohn

Жыл бұрын

The little porker sucks

@grahamyoung3433

Жыл бұрын

Vince only exists to make Paul Stanley look good. They must be paying him about 50 times as much as Thayer.

@Musti6897

Ай бұрын

​@@andrewhagopian468 I have seen YT concert videos and it's true Vince doesn't sound good. And now hmmmm you have to play a game can you quess the song. It's not fair you buy expencive tickets and you get 🫣 .

I think these Bands that use backing tracks should just come forward and be straight with the people and disclose that they might or will use backing tracks in order to give a great show,that way it's out in the open and people will make their own decisions to pay to see them live or not.

@thebluesrockers

Жыл бұрын

Bands that Claim to sell tickets to a live show and fake it should be sued and have to pay ticket buyers 3x the ticket prices & be charged for Fraud.

@grahamyoung3433

Жыл бұрын

'Bands that use backing tracks should just come forward and be straight with the people and disclose that they might or will use backing tracks in order to give a great show' - you mean basically admit its only going to be a 'great show' if the mime because they can't actually play the songs? How did we ever get to this level?

Team Mars.

Learned hard way stop wasting money on bands that have truly aged out , and only really care about the $ .Too many disappointments that now make more sense . Sadly , these days, safest bet to enjoy our past is on vinyl .

@analoguecity3454

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@BangBang-hk4rg

Жыл бұрын

Preach! 👍

@JumpCutThis

Жыл бұрын

Right? When I saw they were doing a ‘stadium tour’ a said out loud ‘okay, whose drug habit has consumed all their funds? I’m gonna guess egomaniac Nikki…’ Can we not just grow old gracefully?

Motley Crue should retire - again... The ultimate sign of greed is Nikki claiming, on occasion, that Mick plays the wrong chords when in fact, Nikki isn't playing all of his bass parts live, as his parts are pre-recorded. I side with Mick Mars on this issue. Motley isn't the Crue without Mick. May as well be another Kiss - a bunch of fat old guys pretending to be in their 30's again. Hang it up already....

Mick is the heart and soul of the band, He's being done dirty, Nikki is D-Bag (good song writer) who has always been a sub par bass player. I've seen Crue 12 times live but never again without Mick!

@seanmatal2383

Жыл бұрын

Sub par hell a damn ape can play bass just as good probably better than Nikki!

I’d actually pay more to have Vince’s vocals pre-recorded 😅

What’s the point of going to a live concert 😫

@BangBang-hk4rg

Жыл бұрын

Nostalgia

You go Mick! Alot of bands are not playing real live music but rather using tech to feed spoon us fake music performance while we the ppl pay hundreds of dollars to watch n listen to more or less karaoke period! So I'm with Mick!

Motley Crue, the ultimate air guitar karaoke band.

@otisdriftwood8469

Жыл бұрын

Mick is playing live. There is a rhythm track behind it on some songs. Like feelgood. But he's always playing live. All 25 times I've seen him anyway.

Vince’s vocals are DEFINITELY live, that much I can tell you

@kevinelliott6318

Жыл бұрын

I believe that . They are to bad to be fake

@shaneshrimp6519

Жыл бұрын

They probably had him sing live so you wouldnt think that the other stuff was taped .

@Beebalabeeba

Жыл бұрын

They use backing tracks on parts not all which most bands do Live now Do you really expect a bass that is a flame thrower to be live A drum kit that spins around flips up side down to sound perfect the entire time

@paulaitix77

Жыл бұрын

@@Beebalabeeba his bass is a prerecorded track the entire show, not just when using flame thrower and turning upside down

@Beebalabeeba

Жыл бұрын

@@paulaitix77 who said

Use backing tracks and still sound terrible .. I saw them in San Antonio 2004 , thought that should of been the end , 20 years ago ..

I'd like to hear Mick Mars ACTUALLY saying this, is there any video of the interview?

@kennethsonia5350

Жыл бұрын

His Lawyer will tell him not to comment.

@redbull8661

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethsonia5350 You're probably right, but every one is saying Mick said it in some interview and I have yet to find the interview. I'm kind of thinking it may be BS. I know a little bit about the situation and I can tell you everything that was on their stage was being heard through the FOH.

Question for those who knows..what they are saying they are doing is different than click tracks? And Mick is my favorite guitarist up there with Jimmy Page ❤

@douglassloan6831

Жыл бұрын

A click is just in the drummers ear so he can keep perfect time for the rest of the band. But everyone is still playing their instruments. They are just following the drummer who is playing to what is basically an electronic metronome that only he can hear in his headphones. What these guys are supposedly doing is miming to parts of the songs that have been pre recorded and played through the house PA which is what the fans are hearing. So, they are basically seeing Motley pretend to play to tracks that are being sent out in place of a live performance. It's like the BBC used to do with Top of the Pops. To me, this is a complete rip off. If you can no longer play your instrument, or sing your songs, don't charge people to come watch you fake it. It's pathetic and embarrassing. There comes a time when you pack it in. All great bands do it. Think of the money Robert Plant gave up NOT going out there and lip syncing to all the old Zep material and cashing a fat check. Kinda makes you appreciate the Stones that much more.

@TheNiteinjail

Жыл бұрын

@@douglassloan6831 in a complex live show a click track can have lots of audio ... recorded tracks ... audio cues (literally someone counting down big visual effects for instance "and front pyro in 3 - 2 - 1... ") It's also really common for each member of the band to have their own mix of click track and other instruments I think in their minds since they wrote it and recorded the tracks .... you're still seeing Crue, but the live show is a mix of prerecord and live audio... Mick's just letting us know it's far far more than just a click track they've been using. which has been obvious for a while if you watch the headlines.

I know this is off subject, but I have a feeling Mick will start a band with John Corabi.

@mgaeeeee9150

Жыл бұрын

I hope so.

@mpodkrajac

Жыл бұрын

Corabi recorded some vocals for Mick Mars's solo record that he didn't release yet. I could see them starting a band especially cause Mars himself said the Motley 1994 album was his personal fav Crue Record! Which of course was when Corabi was in the band. At least Mick would play alongside a vocalist that can actually sing haha.

And Vince sings the right lyrics? He sounds like Scooby-Doo! Pay Mr. mars! Not like Crue are poor. They are destroying themselves.

Motley Crue without their back up recordings would sound like Motley POO!. Just sayin

Absolutely Correct, it’s a luxury these days to go to a concert. For them to charge what they do, is ludicrous and very WRONG! It will be interesting to see in the future to see how many people will cont to go to their fake shows. I know I won’t.

@billyray8062

Жыл бұрын

Other than Mick it seems they are pulling a MILLI VANILLI for outrageous ticket prices!!

Glad I saw all my fav rock bands when I was young and they were in their prime 🙂

Thanks mick....

So much for being the best of friends

John 5 run like hell

@loserpunks766

Жыл бұрын

He has too much class.

The truth finally comes out! Nice! Many bands can't do it anymore. Period!

@erikjoys4432

Жыл бұрын

not without a diaper change

Teaming up on the road with Def Leppard really exposed how terrible Motley really is. Mick was the only ‘real’ musician in Motley. Yes yes, I know.. it was Nikki’s vision and he writes the lyrics (I’m a fan) but Mick’s riffs, arraignments, solos and guidance drove the machine. Without a doubt!

@Slash67

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Def Leppard blew them away

Never like any of the band members only Mars and i dont blame him for fighting. Hes the only one that fights through that much pain and still go on.

Motley Crue are posers.

why would they pay him if he isn't performing? the 25% to 5% was just for concert revenue. he still gets royalties, merchandising, and paid every time they play songs he helped write. maybe he was thinking he could get a sweet deal like steve perry and still be paid as equal band member as far as concert revenue as well for several years?

@paintmonster1

Жыл бұрын

Cheap trick pays their founding member and drummer Bun E Carlos 25% ... No touring or recording. There is precedent for paying... But it depends on the contract. Remember motley Crue is a corporation with 4 equal owners. Mick Mars was a huge reason motley Crue has fame and money ... There wouldn't be motley Crue with out him.

I still don’t understand why Nikki would even need backing tracks. 😂 He’s no Les Claypool. Any teenage novice bass player could easily play them.

Team Mick

I’ve seen Mick recently and without the wig and hat you not even know it’s him. He looked like the average 75 year old senior citizen. It’s OK that he can’t shred anymore. It’s to be expected.

Madonna Crue.

Milli Crue ...or Motley Vanilli....😂😂😂😂

Fraud comes with a jail term doesn't it?

In ROCK N ROLL specially hard rock music…. BACKING TRACKS that covers main instruments are an absolute SIN and unforgivable. Thats why when I see some of the old heads struggling in their reunion tour Im a bit understanding knowing their way past their time.

Motley was the absolute worst show I ever saw. Not only did they use backing tracks but it was out of sync. There was a 2-3 second delay between the live feed and prerecorded tracks rendering the music totally incomprehensible. This went on for the ENTIRE concert. You couldn't even tell which songs were playing. It was so disappointing and I felt ripped off. Additionally, they said it would be their final show but they lied about that too.

They should of kept Mick happy look what you find out from him when you dont

Fantastic you pronounced Mars disease 100% correct!

Wow.. I would prefer to hear Mick Mars missing a few chords vs hearing Vince Neil sing.. Someone that sounds like Gilbert Godfrey or Edith Bunker.. I mean Damn.. At least when you do hear that missing cord then you know it's real vs 3 feet from the drums and they start playing.. Lol.. I seen kiss a few years ago and I was thinking, damn they sound like the CD.. Well it probably was.. Crazy Mess for sure.

Watching their so called final show from L.A.I could plainly hear backing bass vocals drums and guitars

Backing tracks is one thing. But if it is a main part that is taped then that is bad. Many bands use backing tracks to make the music match closer to the cd.

I haven't ever seen all of their shows, but the ones I've seen Mick was always playing live. He rocked me, gave me my money's worth. Besides I went to see him, not the back up !!!

I saw Motley Crue and Def Leppard last year in Milwaukee. Motley was a mess, Vince and tommy were probably the worst audibly. Thankfully we already got to see Def Leppard and Joan Jett. We left, it was a disappointment. Way too different from their recorded tracks. Even compared to other rock concerts and even country music.

Mick Mars Is Motley Crue Just as Tony Iommi is Black Sabbath. The Only Difference is that Tony Iommi had a real bass player.. & a Much Better Drummer.

they won't pay him but vince gets paid for singing unknown lyrics?

Bad way to treat a long term band member and a physically disabled guy that played guitar with them from the start.

why is it impossible for all these bands to make some good new music?

Wouldn’t be at all surprised.

When bands are at this stage of their careers they should all use backtracks

😂😂😂😂Nikki Vanilli.. At least Mick is playing live. Most bands get a note or two out but that's the beauty of live performance. Fans pay alot of money to see bands live, not faking it.

Those Bob Rock produced songs are Great Sounding so what they can't play, they provide entertainment while the tape plays ? THEY DID MICK DIRTY.

I seen Nikki sixx with 6 a.m. he wasn't planying for that show either

All i can say from everything ive watched, is nikki sixx is probably the least truth. Nikki sixx is one of those guys that seems to need a spotlight. My good friends in a band that played out with my band ALOT, they were all die hard motley crue fans i meen every guy in the band looked like a mix between nikki sixx and kieth richards. So they got the opening slot on the crue tour in phoenix. This was when i was still using heroin so at least 11 years ago. These guys were just beside themselves getting to play with theyre heros. They get to the venue which use to be called web theatre anyways they parked and nikki sixx or his body guard came out of his dressing tour van thing and yelled at them. He said nobody can park with 30 Feet of my vehicle they were like hey sorry were the opening act. Nikki just went back into his van. I think they were all crushed a little here is this dude who loves underground rock but then yells at the underground rock band opening for them and isnt even friendly. Mick mars seems like more of a real guy.

This pre-recorded backing tracks is starting to become a big issue for a lot of these 80s classic rock bands . It's something I think shouldn't be used in any capacity of live shows .but I guess when we're talking about guys in their late 60s and 70s what do we expect is gonna happen .especially vocals .there's just no possible way at these ages its not going to sound anywhere near as good as they did back 40 years ago so I can see why they do it (they want to be able to put out the best possible music in their live shows as possible) but this still doesn't make it right or fair to the fans that are paying hundreds of dollars for these multi group stadium tour tickets . As fans that were the ones that bought the albums and went to the concerts that actually were the ones that made these bands rich and famous to start with WE DESERVE BETTER !!! so if it comes to the point where a bassist doesn't play a single note in a live show ITS TIME TO CALL IT QUITS .AS A FAN ID RATHER REMEMBER THESE BANDS FOR HOW GREAT THEY WERE BACK IN THE DAY .THAN PAYING TO GO SEE THEM STAND UP ON STAGE AND PRETEND TO PLAY TO THE RECORDS BEING PLAYED THROUGH THE SOUND SYSTEMS .

@user-on2lu7ev6c

9 ай бұрын

I agree. If I wanted to hear the record I wouldn't go to a concert

I seem to remember extra pre-recorded guitar parts ever since 1989...just saying.

@itsalwayssomething7490

Жыл бұрын

It's true. It's been happening for a long time. They play with click tracks that have instruments on them to fill out the sound in the stadiums they play. It isn't that they aren't playing live, maybe Nikki isn't. But, Vince is definitely singing, and Tommy is playing. But, the tracks are to glue band together, so they can more put on a big show, and less about the music itself. The backing tracks make everything sound bigger with extra guitar tracks, backing vocals, etc. I honestly don't have a problem with it. It isn't like the instruments aren't plugged in and they are miming everything as they would on an award show. Vince is actually terrible, he isn't faking that, or lip syncing to terrible vocals. I think they thought Mars wasn't up to the task, so they asked him to let the tracks take over, and he took offense. He definitely has been missing notes or hitting wrong ones, the last couple of tours. And since MC wants to maintain that lavish rockstar lifestyle, they have to keep touring to make money, so they asked that Mick use the tracks more, and do less live playing, so he doesn't have to worry about being prefect. Really, I would rather Mick in the state he's in. Although, I like J5, MC is missing the soul of the band. When I think of MC, I think of the riffs. J5 plays them well, but it's missing that vibe.

@rockerrockstar

Жыл бұрын

@@itsalwayssomething7490 I agree with you totally. To me the music is missing its sole without mick. LIsten to the guitar riffs with J5 just sound generic and bland. J5 is great guitar player but not the same without Mick. Also, I agree on the backing track enhancing the music. Vince definetly sings live and I have heard him when he is good and bad. When he gets in shape he is really great. Tommy is a great dummer I don't think he needs to fake anything. But he may plays to click in order for it to time to the videos they got in background playing live.

Milli Vanilli turned out to be prophets.

What about the contract the signed in 2015 to be their absolute final tour. I want my $60. Back for the lie's that's on it

Hey Mick Mars you the man you look great Shred you have a great sense of humor don't let the stress of others get you you should take Motley Crue to Broadway live on Broadway and let the boys on stage dance and sing around on the stage Reel Theater let a new generation of people like them this is probably the best then everybody can retire Motley Crue 2.0 live on or Vegas like showgirls dancing around sit there and play a guitar that your doctor made for you play guitar forever you're a good person Mick Mars shred on live on Broadway Mick Mars and his Motley Little Nicky Meri Jaan 5 you love them that much sit on a bench look at the sunset I love you man

Get em MICK!

Hes been disrespected and used. Go for it mick

that’s what you get when you fuck with a vampire zombie from the underworld

Yeah, they should go back to 1987 and use Vince’s vocals!

no wonder Vince sucks at singing live and the rest of the band sounded good. only if they had remembered to grab Vince's vocal backing tracks, we would not have gotten those misheard lyrics. oh, and i bet Steel Panther is loving this.

Loll back track and back vocals but still very expensive tickets 😅😅😅

So sad 😞 how could you fake playing and think that's ok

Oh, and Vince Neil singing like James Brown on helium is acceptable? Listen to their new live version of "Kick Start My Heart". Or according to Vince " Keeshar Mahar"

OH PLEASE.......... They have been "Motley Vanilli" for years. They were never good live, but neither is Metallica, etc. Kiss had been using backing tracks for years as well. Nothing new. Milli Vanilli just got blamed for doing it because they were a pop band, all bands have done this since the digital / multimedia age began. I'm still a fan though. From way back.

As a die hard fan since 83’ I’m glad I didn’t waste my money this time. Just like my other fav band,KISS, the Crue is taking the band into disgrace land just like Gene and Paul are doing, cmon Nikki, this sucks dude! Get the fire back, go out and destroy like you used too, this is embarrassing. Forget the lighting cues and crap, go out and play rock n roll for cryin out loud!

@briandarazs6620

Жыл бұрын

Same here. So glad I saw them back in the day when they were still real. Would not pay a dime to see them today.

@jasonb.7609

Жыл бұрын

@@briandarazs6620 I hear ya, had tickets to Shout but couldn’t go,bummer…then saw them in Oakland for Girls tour, two nights for Feelgood, then held Nikki up after a stage dive at a theatre show with Corabi..lol, then every tour after except when they had other drummers. Like you, I’m glad I saw the older shows, feel bad for any new fans who aren’t getting the real deal. Nikki and Tommy think that by having John in the band it makes them current or cooler…lol, same thing they did with the Corabi thing ( killer record though), hey guys, write your own stuff, record with only the four of you playing, then tour actually playing and I’ll pay for some more tattoos!

Mick was Motley Crue.

Vince can't even sing one line. Nikki doesn't even know 1 chord. Great way to go out boys, Congradulations.

@johnhagan582

Жыл бұрын

I agree completely .why would you wanna go out like this .it's bound to be for the money but damn these dudes are already millionaires so if was me when it comes to the point as it is with Nikki can't play a single note of a live proformance . give it up and let us remember yall for when ya was awesome and not for standing up on stage and pretending to play while recordings are being pipped through the arenas sound systems

@chriswilgus165

Жыл бұрын

Nikki has probably had a bass player hired under the stage since1981. Sad they do this to mick. Why. Greed. Not a way to go out for him or any of them. Kiss also .look at that shot going on with ace. Seems to be a trend.

Retirement is not in the least bit overrated.

This is Motley Crue remember = contacts mean jack!!!!

Vince Meal - Dr Mealgood & Kickstart My Hotdog Cart …

@user-ov1fl5hk4s

4 ай бұрын

Ten Seconds To Lunch, Grills Grills Grills,etc..

Who cares? All bands even pub bands use tapes

Best musicians in MC Mick Mars John 5 Tie between Tommy Lee and John Corabi Tie between Nikki and Vince

This is now news to anyone with eyes and ears 😂

You got to fell bad for john5 getting caught up in this.js

I believe Mick about getting screwed out of money and then he tells the rest of the band has been doing a MILLI VANILLI on tour after they are charging outrageous ticket prices!!

Love Mick but nobody smart or intelligent cares.The show we seen in Nashville was awesome n as one who grew up with them,im thankful theyre still around as all REAL fans should be.

We all know the up to par thing isnt true because they are allowing vince up there and he isnt even singing real words. He makes cat calls and yeahs as close to the pitch of the original words. Its just a joke. They need to tune down a few steps to fit his voice now. But that means they would have to go in and record backing track to build there set list tracks that work with the time code of the lighting show. Mick mars is doing a much better job as guitar player than vince is at vocals.

I'm not taking one side or the other in this matter. But I will say why should Mick Mars get any of the touring money if he's not going to tour?

Dear God please give Mick an olive branch before he goes to the other side cuz uhhhhm..... Well, tick tick tick tick........

Just posers smiling at the suckers that have paid to watch Nikki stand on stage and revel in his greed

I understand them cutting him because he isn’t physically touring, but not down to 5%

Has anybody actually seen a recent live performance? Vince's vocals are absolute trash and John 5 is slaying. I find this hard to believe

@davidotto3731

Жыл бұрын

Is J5 slaying or just air guitaring to backing tracks?

We love the Crew but we love Mick. WTF. 40 years?? Brother hood??? "Explain" &😂 keep it brother hood not corporate bs. SAD to see the crew end like this. We love you Mick

Vince’s head looks photoshopped

So Motley Crue has went the way of Brittney Spears. Backing tracks who may or may not be us singing or playing. I am done.

AUDIT IN DECK

Motley Vanilli...

I'm just wondering when dikki suxx is gonna change his last name to Stanley or Simmons?

Good God !! I remember back in the 80's when I payed attention to this music, and had the same 20 year old attitude that the crue has now..lol grow up !! listen to some Jazz, animal as leaders, Gojira... Drink some spring water, stretch, yoga, Qi gong, Eat some falafel, baklava... get out of your shell.. The 80's are gone.. carry one and pay the man !