LYING vs SEATED Leg Curl: Which is BETTER?

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What is the difference between a lying leg curl vs a seated one? So if you remember from my video yesterday, the hamstrings are a biarticular muscle meaning they cross 2 different joints, the hip and the knee, and this allows them to perform both hip extension, and knee flexion. During a leg curl you’re only training knee flexion since all you’re doing is bending your knee, however if you look closely, your hips are in a different position seated then they are lying down. When you’re seated your hips are bent, or flexed, and when you’re lying down, your hips are straight or extended. We know that the hamstrings perform hip extension, which means that the muscle fibers shorten as you extend your hips. Thus, when you’re lying down, you’re primarily targeting the shortened position of your hamstrings, since your hips are straight or extended. This also means that when you flex your hips, you lengthen your hamstrings, so a seated leg curl where your hips are bent would primarily target the lengthened position. So, as a result, I recommend including both variations on different days you train legs, to take advantage of all positions of the muscle.
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  • @MaxEuceda7
    @MaxEuceda7 Жыл бұрын

    In short, the lying leg curl trains more of the shortened position of your hamstrings, whereas the seated leg curl trains more of the lengthened position. Both are fantastic options for overall development, so I recommend including both! Looking to get protein powder, creatine, or any other supplements? Go to tidd.ly/3k9BR9d and use code "MAXE" at checkout for 40% off!

  • @m0ped987

    @m0ped987

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Max

  • @buddydew101

    @buddydew101

    Жыл бұрын

    I love your 🎂

  • @jextern7961

    @jextern7961

    Жыл бұрын

    Please tell me the name of the gym you go to

  • @dibsdibs3495

    @dibsdibs3495

    Жыл бұрын

    Would the lying leg curl be a good replacement for using deadlift to train the shortened position of the hamstrings?

  • @heavyhands2293

    @heavyhands2293

    Жыл бұрын

    Are those calfs photoshopped from a woman?

  • @kermittheholyone6475
    @kermittheholyone6475 Жыл бұрын

    I swear you gym has 90% of all machine ever made for working out.

  • @potapotapotapotapotapota

    @potapotapotapotapotapota

    Жыл бұрын

    If you live in suburbia/metropolis chances are you'll find a gym with most pieces of equipment in it

  • @williamhoward9121

    @williamhoward9121

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he has like 3 or 4 gyms including his home gym

  • @kermittheholyone6475

    @kermittheholyone6475

    Жыл бұрын

    @@williamhoward9121 now that makes a lot more sense, because the background chamges in his videos. I can tell when he's using his home gym, but the rest nah.

  • @RZ_2K

    @RZ_2K

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah mine has prone but not sitting, id really like a sitting one since im not the biggest fan of prone

  • @FANCYFALCON

    @FANCYFALCON

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RZ_2K same here

  • @flamingwolf8753
    @flamingwolf8753 Жыл бұрын

    I watched this multiple times for no particular reason

  • @crackedfrijoles6696

    @crackedfrijoles6696

    Жыл бұрын

    No particular reason = 🍑

  • @from9539
    @from9539 Жыл бұрын

    That hip hinge is phenomenal

  • @lyzo111
    @lyzo111 Жыл бұрын

    The actual difference is that seating brings a greater stretch for the parts that do knee flexion and hip extension. --> seated is better for hypertrophy Standing or lying is better for only one part or the knee flexors, the Sartorius to be exact. That's because the Sartorius performs a hip flexion, not a hip extension in addition to a knee flexion. Therefore it is more lengthened while lying down. --> lying or standing is better for the Sartorius

  • @theprofessor1480
    @theprofessor1480 Жыл бұрын

    Dad glute spread next?😩

  • @ondemandslapperandclapper

    @ondemandslapperandclapper

    Жыл бұрын

    Please stop, this shit is getting old

  • @theprofessor1480

    @theprofessor1480

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ondemandslapperandclapper fix yo long ass name first💀

  • @kevinayers6322

    @kevinayers6322

    Жыл бұрын

    Stop

  • @whysoserious6641

    @whysoserious6641

    Жыл бұрын

    Continue….

  • @SleepyCinnamon

    @SleepyCinnamon

    Жыл бұрын

    i dont get why people are saying this thing is getting old, we genuinely want to see the glute spread

  • @spoonsrattling4
    @spoonsrattling4 Жыл бұрын

    more videos about lying leg curls please 😁😁

  • @justduro1527

    @justduro1527

    Жыл бұрын

    didnt know legs curls were liars

  • @BipolarBilly52

    @BipolarBilly52

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justduro1527 ☝🤓🔍📗

  • @burgerwithnohoneymustard168

    @burgerwithnohoneymustard168

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@justduro1527lmao

  • @zzk8616
    @zzk8616 Жыл бұрын

    We must stay focused bros

  • @fishe8595

    @fishe8595

    10 ай бұрын

    gay

  • @r.g.bjaguar5452

    @r.g.bjaguar5452

    10 ай бұрын

    But im straight

  • @Owen21850
    @Owen21850 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative great video💪

  • @scary_garry6270
    @scary_garry6270 Жыл бұрын

    idk if this is just me, but you content is actually really entertaining and i learn a lot of important info on bodybuilding

  • @sergeantbigmac
    @sergeantbigmac Жыл бұрын

    My Gym only has seated, which for me I always get a TON of activation so ive never thought im missing out on anything. But because of your videos ive realized im not hitting all the muscles I could be so ive incorporated more RDL/hip hinge movements and my legs have blown up. Thanks for the info dude! Keep it coming.

  • @batman-sr2px

    @batman-sr2px

    Жыл бұрын

    Does it really feel like the hip hinge targets the upper hamstrings while the seated leg curl does the lower hamstrings?

  • @sergeantbigmac

    @sergeantbigmac

    Жыл бұрын

    @@batman-sr2px Ya for the most part, seated still feels like its hitting most of my hamstring but ive incorporated RDLs into my leg days and I do really feel those in my upper ham and glutes... Mostly I just dont want any muscle group to be imbalanced and I didnt used to train glutes enough so im glad its hitting that too I guess lol

  • @Summerbe550
    @Summerbe550 Жыл бұрын

    Best explanation so far

  • @asliceofcheese7888
    @asliceofcheese7888 Жыл бұрын

    I have yet to come across a gym that has both of these machines. It's always one or the another but not both.

  • @fake10hourentertainment17

    @fake10hourentertainment17

    4 ай бұрын

    Mine has both of them.

  • @marbleboy5975
    @marbleboy5975 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your work ! Really cool

  • @coolgainz9307
    @coolgainz9307 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely agreed cause at the end of the day there is no best exercises just choose the exercises that allows you to be safe and also great educational short 💯

  • @618grant
    @618grant Жыл бұрын

    Bro PLEASE so us an at-home alternative to the seating one…I got the lying one w/ resistance bands and a support beam in my basement. Just need a good seating curl version 🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @gumlus1257

    @gumlus1257

    Жыл бұрын

    or you could just to to the gym?

  • @richmind5867

    @richmind5867

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@gumlus1257not everyone has time too

  • @rafaelvolquez3488
    @rafaelvolquez3488 Жыл бұрын

    I love hamstrings workouts

  • @retaflame
    @retaflame Жыл бұрын

    I've been looking for an explanation of this for so long THANKS! Also, do you have something explaining the different muscles used for Leg press, lying leg press, and squats? Which portions of muscles each exercise works?

  • @nickdreezy2457

    @nickdreezy2457

    Жыл бұрын

    Mmm your legs work as a single unit so there’s really no point is prioritizing specific movements in order to get a crazy, for example, vastus lateralis. Leg Press is just going to isolate your entire quad w/ a little hamstring/glute work and a squat is more of a full body movement prioritizing quads/glutes (hip ext) w/ a little hamstring work. I’m sure there’s ways to get a little more vastus lateralis on for example a leg extension by changing toe position, but in the grand scheme of things it’s really not worth thinking about

  • @potapotapotapotapotapota
    @potapotapotapotapotapota Жыл бұрын

    I prefer seated because exercising the lengthened positions is often neglected. As Upright Health says, you need to develop strength at every length.

  • @iflex7640

    @iflex7640

    Жыл бұрын

    RDLs/SLDLs train the lengthened position of the hamstrings as well

  • @potapotapotapotapotapota

    @potapotapotapotapotapota

    Жыл бұрын

    @@iflex7640 yeah that's true, one does knee flexion the other does hip extension... now if only there was an exercise that could do both 😅

  • @_Gongola
    @_Gongola Жыл бұрын

    damn I wish my gym had both

  • @manspeej
    @manspeej Жыл бұрын

    My gym only got a lying one and a shitty standing single plate loaded one which has the same hip position as the lying on

  • @izaacandres7262
    @izaacandres7262 Жыл бұрын

    I saw you on daily dose of Internet the other day

  • @HeiligeLazer03
    @HeiligeLazer03 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Max, love your videos and appreciate your hard work! I know this is a stupid question, but I just wanna be safe... earlier this year(the 17th of February) I had surgery to remove a hemorrhoid I had gotten because my form was totally wrong while deadlifting heavy. I have started slowly getting back into the gym now, my question is, do you think, if my form is correct, it would be safe to do the variation where you extend your hips? Atm I'm only doing seated hamstring curls...

  • @water_25
    @water_25 Жыл бұрын

    TL;DR They train different movements of the muscle. Just do both

  • @HereForTheCupcakes

    @HereForTheCupcakes

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a short bro, how much quicker do you want it LMAOO

  • @abdullahmohammad3093
    @abdullahmohammad3093 Жыл бұрын

    My gym don’t have the seated one

  • @m.guypirate6900
    @m.guypirate6900 Жыл бұрын

    The seated leg curl that you showed first hurts my shins, and my gym doesnt have the other seated leg curl you showed where the pad goes over your thigh, so i do prone leg curls(dont have time for both).

  • @TheTobiasSimon
    @TheTobiasSimon Жыл бұрын

    Lawd have mercy 7 days left

  • @Rifi77
    @Rifi77 Жыл бұрын

    My gym only has a lying leg curl machine :(

  • @therapiddotslinger3375

    @therapiddotslinger3375

    Жыл бұрын

    Rdl for seated replacement

  • @mufin6930

    @mufin6930

    5 ай бұрын

    @@therapiddotslinger3375 push vs pull tho

  • @lonelyofficerk
    @lonelyofficerk11 ай бұрын

    We dont have a lying curl machine in our gym cuz of that im using seated curl

  • @Musculatura_de_la_Epoca_Dorada
    @Musculatura_de_la_Epoca_Dorada Жыл бұрын

    Hey Max, I'm from Venezuela, Could You do a vídeo show us your biceps, chest, thighs, calves measurements please?

  • @birinderwarraich1179
    @birinderwarraich1179 Жыл бұрын

    I do lying leg curls and eccentric Nordic curls

  • @ZacharyBoi
    @ZacharyBoi Жыл бұрын

    I don’t have a seated leg curl only a lying one 😔

  • @shaythestudent

    @shaythestudent

    Жыл бұрын

    You'll only need the lying leg curls and RDLs anyway

  • @awg1764
    @awg1764 Жыл бұрын

    What about standing leg curl?

  • @demeroldemerolforgodheista9793
    @demeroldemerolforgodheista9793 Жыл бұрын

    I don't have the seated machine so I only do lying leg curl

  • @missm3174
    @missm3174 Жыл бұрын

    Nice 👌👌👍

  • @Ted_Kenzoku
    @Ted_Kenzoku Жыл бұрын

    I trained at 5 different gyms and not one had a seated leg curl.

  • @diontan7940
    @diontan7940 Жыл бұрын

    what about hip thrust?

  • @sergiobustos8694
    @sergiobustos8694 Жыл бұрын

    Lying: all the single ladies 🎶😏

  • @ichor732
    @ichor732 Жыл бұрын

    The difference? The view 😈

  • @vwb9695
    @vwb96959 ай бұрын

    I feel crunching in various places in my hamstrings when I use these machines. What is that?

  • @santiagogarcia6730
    @santiagogarcia6730 Жыл бұрын

    The seated leg curl has a better resistance profile than the lying leg curl, as you can easily trick your lower back to lift more weight.

  • @don8244
    @don8244 Жыл бұрын

    Tom Platz' favorite was the seated leg curl

  • @saywhat4082
    @saywhat40827 ай бұрын

    I’ve noticed my seated leg curl is much stronger than my lying leg curl by a lot

  • @aroundtheworld6093
    @aroundtheworld60936 ай бұрын

    So lying curl machine works the same hamstring muscle as in deadlift?

  • @alekhbari4131
    @alekhbari4131 Жыл бұрын

    What other alternative can be taken in shortened position as.... My gym only got seated curl machine .... So any alternatives available.

  • @therapiddotslinger3375

    @therapiddotslinger3375

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you find smthn?

  • @nishantvermavlogs6548
    @nishantvermavlogs6548 Жыл бұрын

    The White shoes look so chic.. 🥵

  • @kierredestiny2

    @kierredestiny2

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂 #VANS

  • @elbertlim2872
    @elbertlim2872 Жыл бұрын

    If someone think it's same exercise. It's like comparing bicep and tricep exercise 😂

  • @Sully_one
    @Sully_one Жыл бұрын

    is there something i can do instead of dead lifts and tran back of my leg the same way? ive been doing them for a long time

  • @seohyunsinpark6689
    @seohyunsinpark6689 Жыл бұрын

    Can you make a video about the scapula humerus rhythm when doing exercises like bench press, etc

  • @averagegymenjoyer22
    @averagegymenjoyer22 Жыл бұрын

    So which one targets the stretched position? Plus, wbu standing one? I’m asking cuz as long as I know is that newer studies tell that the stretched position is much more efficient then the short one… that’s right ? Ty for any help

  • @lukeharris2622
    @lukeharris2622 Жыл бұрын

    Is it realistic to have a six pack while relaxed and not be show ready. I can see my abs when I flex, but relaxed I just see some definition, but not nearly like a six pack. Just visible indents

  • @sailormoonfan4757

    @sailormoonfan4757

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely. Having defined abs when relaxed is often not sustainable for most people to keep the bf that low at all times. The fact that you have them showing at all is very good. Unless you have a reason to constantly be photo ready, don’t worry about it too much.

  • @blitzy3244
    @blitzy3244 Жыл бұрын

    The seated one fucks up the bone in front of my calves

  • @billz9303
    @billz93033 ай бұрын

    Title says which is better...so which is better!?!??! Says both are good 😅

  • @MasterCallum66
    @MasterCallum66 Жыл бұрын

    Song????

  • @BackyardBoxing11
    @BackyardBoxing11 Жыл бұрын

    Literally me

  • @Lb-bw4iu
    @Lb-bw4iu Жыл бұрын

    Maybe a stupid question but.. should i train every exercise to failure? Or just the last exercise?

  • @qweee3913
    @qweee3913 Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't the seated one be better because, since the hamstrings cross the hip joint, being seated means that the hamstrings will be stretched the entire time and your muscles are strongest when they're stretched

  • @hrentbey7209
    @hrentbey7209 Жыл бұрын

    Hey so I got this problem when doing rdls. My hands start hurting cause of my grip but idk how to fix it. I put on a lot of weight cause I could do 10 or 8 rdls if my hands didn't hurt. If I put it to a lighter weight, I'd be doing rdls for 2 hours. Hope you can help

  • @generalpig559
    @generalpig5599 ай бұрын

    Could u do both in one leg day?

  • @horacetheshrimp2676
    @horacetheshrimp2676 Жыл бұрын

    The lying leg curl gives me easier access 😏

  • @memelord7443
    @memelord7443 Жыл бұрын

    Wild how bro got them chicken calves then some big ahh thunder thighs 😂 Love ya videos tho man, probably one of my favorite fitness KZreadrs 🫵😦

  • @citizenpunx
    @citizenpunx Жыл бұрын

    Serious question…. How do body builders like this achieve zero hair on their arms/legs? Literally shaving or like Nair(?)

  • @armywithluv55
    @armywithluv55 Жыл бұрын

    CUANDO HARÁS UN VIDEO SOBRE GLUTEOS MAX 😡😡😡😡😡

  • @switchunboxing
    @switchunboxing8 ай бұрын

    Is it a good idea to just only exercise 2x per week and each time, I do biceps and legs? I’m a very casual exercise or so I could do to bicep exercises each time, and then do one leg exercise each time, but change the leg exercise every time. Could this be an effective plan? I usually like to walk for cardio as well. Should I try to avoid doing an hour walk on days that I work out my legs? Or is it not really that serious?

  • @TxntFPS
    @TxntFPS Жыл бұрын

    my gym only has seated

  • @CiverBeats
    @CiverBeats Жыл бұрын

    lying leg curls hurt so i do seated

  • @dougdimmadabs5001
    @dougdimmadabs5001 Жыл бұрын

    I dont like doing lying down ones cuz even if I have a perfect fit in the machine and I've stretched. I can go with light weight and still feel a tingling popping sensations in the back of my right knee and I dont like when I feel it. It doesn't hurt it just feels weird

  • @Antonio_Serdar
    @Antonio_Serdar Жыл бұрын

    The seated one is more honest

  • @oscarardon6197
    @oscarardon61978 ай бұрын

    I prefer just sticking with seated hamstring curls. I feel crazy soreness just above behind my knee anyway, and my hamstrings are pretty big, so I don't see the reason to HAVE to incorporate both.

  • @naufalasyam9747
    @naufalasyam9747 Жыл бұрын

    I disagree. First of all, you are correct that the hamstring muscles perform hip extension, which means that the muscle fibers lengthen as the hips flex. Therefore, in a seated leg curl, as the individual sits with their knees bent and flexes their knees towards their buttocks, their hip joint is also flexed, which means that the hamstring muscles are lengthened. So, in that sense, you could say that the seated leg curl bias the lengthened position of the hamstring muscles. However, it's worth noting that the exercise does not provide a full stretch to the hamstring muscles, as the machine limits the range of motion. Additionally, the exercise does not challenge the hamstrings through their full range of motion, which means that other exercises, such as the Nordic curl or stiff-legged deadlifts, may be more effective at targeting the lengthened position of the hamstrings. While the seated leg curl does involve some lengthening of the hamstring muscles, it may bias the shortened position of the hamstrings more. This is because the machine limits the range of motion, which means that the hamstrings do not experience a full stretch. The resistance curve of the machine may also play a role in how the exercise targets the hamstrings. Machines often have a resistance curve that is set to provide greater resistance in the shortened position of the muscle. This means that the resistance will be greatest when the hamstrings are contracted, which biases the shortened position of the muscle.

  • @Aaron._dubs
    @Aaron._dubs Жыл бұрын

    Isnt the seated one for quads?

  • @awg1764
    @awg1764 Жыл бұрын

    What about RDL’s

  • @SeanD6091
    @SeanD6091 Жыл бұрын

    My gym doesn’t have a lying leg curl sadly

  • @harishshetkar4814
    @harishshetkar4814 Жыл бұрын

    My gym doesn't have the seated variation

  • @sowososmooth
    @sowososmooth Жыл бұрын

    Thanks daddy

  • @FANCYFALCON
    @FANCYFALCON Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know a good alternative for Seated Leg Curls except Nordic Ham Curls cause they are way too hard for me to do. Trust me I have tried and my knees did not appreciate it.

  • @Mich-jk2ze

    @Mich-jk2ze

    Жыл бұрын

    Assisted? Or actually just resist it to a degree then assist with your hands to make it easier but still hard

  • @-Jozef
    @-Jozef Жыл бұрын

    Just failed nnn

  • @lukepainterlifts
    @lukepainterlifts Жыл бұрын

    OTT ROM on that RDL 😬

  • @Stevie_Proko_
    @Stevie_Proko_ Жыл бұрын

    So if I’m already doing RDLs should I do Seated curls or lying down curls? Just a lil confused

  • @legom8149

    @legom8149

    Жыл бұрын

    So the lying and seated versions target the hamstrings the same. They're just meant to offer a safer chance of going to muscular failure. BUT keep the RDLS programmed!

  • @asmael4787
    @asmael4787 Жыл бұрын

    am I going to gym or med school

  • @IceColdProfessional
    @IceColdProfessional6 ай бұрын

    Seated leg curls hurt !

  • @Jjjcs
    @Jjjcs Жыл бұрын

    What if had a hamstring injury that never fully healed like ten years ago when I played football and now even with the slightest weight I start feeling a slight ick pain in the area? Should going really slow on weights help it recover?

  • @batman-sr2px

    @batman-sr2px

    Жыл бұрын

    what do you mean by slight ick? Yeah heavy eccentrics are good too. If you warmup before it should be good too.

  • @Monkeymotivation23
    @Monkeymotivation238 ай бұрын

    Why do i feel a tingly sensation in the gastrocnemius area?

  • @teaganmccluskey8644
    @teaganmccluskey8644 Жыл бұрын

    Also the RDL is better for lengthened so if ur already doing that then lying leg curls works the other position, but if ur not doing RDLs then seated is good

  • @batman-sr2px

    @batman-sr2px

    Жыл бұрын

    Isn't the rdl more upper hamstring and the lying leg curl more lower hamstring?

  • @pritishbari2819
    @pritishbari2819 Жыл бұрын

    My gym only has seated leg curls what do i do in that case to target the entire hamstring?

  • @omarhurani

    @omarhurani

    Жыл бұрын

    You target the entire muscle group in both variations, just that each exercise targets them in a different position. If your gym has a cable machine with a leg attachment, look up "Cable Hamstring Curl" and set it up. To mimic the hamstring position, make sure your legs and upper body are mostly in line with each other (not hinged/seated)

  • @connorsmith7666
    @connorsmith7666 Жыл бұрын

    Daddy ❤❤

  • @mavrk.d
    @mavrk.d Жыл бұрын

    I hate seated. Always feels like I’m about to catch a cramp

  • @learngeographywithalex
    @learngeographywithalex Жыл бұрын

    Help;If I do Romanian deadlifts and lying hamstrings curls do I train my hammies in the same position or a different one

  • @lucashenriques4242
    @lucashenriques4242 Жыл бұрын

    Rdl + leg curl, Thays all you need for hams. "Oooh but i watched some vídeo with 6 different exercises and then feel the burn and Pump bro.." No, just no.

  • @asmitoshshinde
    @asmitoshshinde Жыл бұрын

    I don't like the way my ass just pops out when doing lying legs curls.

  • @Urine666Deity

    @Urine666Deity

    Жыл бұрын

    Isn't that kinda normal? Even his gigantic ass goes up at the top of the movement

  • @asmitoshshinde

    @asmitoshshinde

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Urine666Deity it is normal but it is better to keep the tushy down for the exercise to be more effective.

  • @RzVids
    @RzVids9 ай бұрын

    This shit hurts my knees though what am I doing wrong?

  • @Skyblades
    @Skyblades Жыл бұрын

    He has thick glutes😩

  • @Gman3000vr4
    @Gman3000vr4 Жыл бұрын

    Seated leg curls are better.

  • @FBI_01
    @FBI_01 Жыл бұрын

    Bro I can’t concentrate with you showing your bakery back there I just wanna get them red orbs

  • @Dallas-214
    @Dallas-2149 ай бұрын

    🍑

  • @thenelsonbruhs722
    @thenelsonbruhs722 Жыл бұрын

    Does seated leg curl work as a substitute for lying leg curl? My workout plan I was sent from a friend includes lying leg curl but my PF only has the seated machine

  • @nikitagonsalves8163
    @nikitagonsalves8163 Жыл бұрын

    E

  • @Dantes2888
    @Dantes2888 Жыл бұрын

    That curl machine looks weird

  • @brownie4032
    @brownie4032 Жыл бұрын

    Lmao those dudes are weak asf talking about 20mg is an effective dose

  • @pinley9
    @pinley9 Жыл бұрын

    Seated one is more painful, hehehe.

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