Very illuminating. Thank you.

Extremely helpful videos you have been doing. I am learning a lot about my G9 and really looking forward to buying a GH6 soon so I can do all that All-I and 5.7 and open gate things!! Thank you so much for sharing all of this information.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 🙂

I'll use C4K for my film this summer in case it goes to film festivals. For other work, I think your analysis still makes sense.

@RedFrameTech

2 ай бұрын

For a film that might go to festivals it definitely makes sense to shoot C4K. Thanks for watching!

That was extremely helpful! Thank you! Subscribed! ❤

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! 🙂 thanks for subscribing!

Thank you for this easy to understand breakdown!

Hi Sebastiaan, great content as always, when are we going to see your review of codecs for the GH6?

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Garrett! That video will hopefully be coming soon. Probably this month

IT was helpful and it sounds logical to me. Thank you. Have you ever done a video on using the auto focus and it's many settings. I've watched a lot of focus videos but they were only put out back when it was released. Nobody with real experience has revisited it. I wish you or somebody else would do that.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Haven’t made a video on the GH6’s autofocus yet. But I think I will

@sutv6754

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech That would be pure gold. We all understand the 101's of GH6 Auto focus but still it's a mystery. A video that is long and detailed. Everyone seems to do tutorials and reviews but they are all pretty similar with the 101 facts. We want 102 and 103. Lol. I will look forward to it if you make it. Wonderful channel and videos you have.

Very interesting. Thank you for you hard work that don't have to do now.

Thanks for this! Great work

Well done! Thank you!

Great video! I shot all my videos in 6K open gate on my GH5II because I need both formats, horizontal and vertical.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

🙏 Yeah, open gate is really useful

@AurelianIrimia

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech when you discover the big advantage of shooting open gate, is very hard to go bag to the 16:9 format. I shoot open gate 6K 25fps when I don’t need slow motion and for slow motion I’m using 4K 50fps

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

@@AurelianIrimia I’m also starting to use open gate more and more. So much flexibility!

@AurelianIrimia

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech I’m using open gate for all my projects because my clients demand me content for social media, vertical for Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, or horizontal for KZread or internal use on monitor or tv

Thank you 😊 interesting and practical info 👍

Best GH6 information on the Internet right here on this channel.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

🙏

That just seems bizarre. It seems like they would have to be scaling to get this result. But I know nothing other than to keep trying to learn how to use all the things these tools can do. Also, great teaser title that got me to watch this very informative video! I want to try this test myself and see what happens!

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, doesn’t it? Thanks for what you said about the thumbnail! It’s hard sometimes making something that’s teasing and looks interesting but without making it look like clickbait, cause I hate that myself

Solid analysis. I'd stick with 5.7 or open gate-more options. c4k is fine if you know what you want in the frame. hehe

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

5.7k and open gate are definitely great for the extra room in post

@GlobeHackers

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech When you shoot dramatic narratives, what settings do you use? Thanks much.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

@@GlobeHackers I would shoot 4K UHD in V-log, either in All-I internally or ProPres externally, with NR at 0 and sharpness dialed down a little. And DR boost ON whenever possible for the best noise performance. These settings, in my opinion, give a ton of flexibility in post to create the look you want. But all settings aside, lenses really matter as well.

@GlobeHackers

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech Excellent. Thanks for taking the time.

Good evening from sunny Blackpool. Well, the wee small hours as I wait for another masterpiece to render out.🤣 I'm with you on the 4k UHD for filming as I find it the most versatile. I did try a project in C4K but it was just a complete pain to crop and rescale the footage that it just wasn't worth it, especially as the world revolves around 16:9 anyway. BTW, lovin my second hand Panasonic G9 for photos. Do you think its worth spending £100 for the vLog profile for it?

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Hi Frank. Great to hear you’re loving your G9 🙂 I think if you want to start using it for video, get the most dynamic range out of it and match it to other cameras, then V-log is worth it. If you’re mainly using it for photos, then don’t get v log and shoot the occasional video in Natural for example and you’ll get great results. The V-log upgrade does however give you waveform, which in itself could be worth the upgrade..

@frankinblackpool

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech The sooner camera companies relegate histograms to the bin and give everybody Waveforms the better. Histograms are pointless tools that are next to useless once you discover waveforms.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

@@frankinblackpool Exactly!

C4k is not wider because the GH6 doesn’t crop the sensor regardless of resolution recorded. I think it is useful if you know you want 17:9, but as you say, if you don’t know or are not sure, UHD might be a better choice. Also if shooting Prores you unfortunately don’t have the choice of UHD so C4K can be good to keep file size down compared to 5.7k. Great video, will have to check out your others!

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, not having UHD in ProRes I find a bit annoying. I don’t understand why they left that option out.

Hi Very nice test, I did the same with GH5s but it is a multiaspect ratio sensor andnit a true MFT...1.8 crop. But I never shoot anyway in C4K... DZO lenses are you happy with them? They are truly parfocal if I remember correctly but kind of dark... I am waiting myself to get the S5iiX, I already have 2 S5 and some L mount lenses but really it is hard to completely.move out of MFT. Still shooting a lot with GH5s and BMPCC4K. But for run and gun, hybrid solo shooting situation like events I tend to go for the S5iiX...and actually on tripod for concert events the 60-600 sigma who coast more than the S5ii body 10* Zoom could be amazing This kind of job is actually done for me with GH5s were I can push the iso to second base 5000 in Vlog...And the autofocus is acceptable in 50 fps. But Panasonic FF Vlog image is really nice...pity that Blackmagic is kind of out of the or at least it is how I feel it...the Ursa 12K had potential...d

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I can definitely see why you would go for the S5IIx. I think Panasonic did a great job with that camera. Gh5s is also a great camera. I’d like to add one to my arsenal 😄 I’m very happy with the DZO lenses. Not the sharpest and T2.9, but truly par-focal, internal zoom and 12 aperture blades. Bokeh is buttery smooth and background separation is really something else with these lenses. Never seen anything like it with other lenses I’ve used. I’ll do a full review on them soon.

@mbolan1

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech Just got the GH5s to go with my G9 very nice and can be had for a bargain good time to get one.

I assume they did it this way because of the black bars you used to get on either side with the GH5. So no need to crop in to fill out the side areas, and also no need to add black bars. So if you were shooting a narrative piece, you'd film in C4K, frame accordingly without the extra steps in post, and differentiate from something specifically for TV.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good point. The work in post is so minimal though. Just a few mouse clicks. And for framing you can set markers. So I don’t really see the point in using it. Do you use it?

@pragmaticfilmmaking

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech No, but most of what I do is for UHD, but I would consider it for a narrative feature or short film I was intending for festivals or viewed at my local theatre.

I dont know CROP. Got issues in post . Too many options to go about it. Tools that is. If i could get aspect ratio and editing figured out youd see go 4x3 or whatever for everything. Too bad all frame rates and log profiles cannot be prores 5.8 k-24,30,60,120 and prores full hd 4x3 180fps-300 . Idk THANK YOU

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Maybe I’ll cover cropping and aspect ratios in another video 🙂

@DroseMr

Жыл бұрын

Whenever .THANK YOU

Havw you tested 4K in MOV format v C4K in Apple Pro Res? Is there any improvement in image quality using Pro Res?

@RedFrameTech

4 ай бұрын

You'd have to specify a bit further as MOV is just the container that ProRes is wrapped in as well. But I'm assuming you're talking about ProRes vs H264/H265? Then the answer would be that for average use, average grading, there's no perceivable difference. But for green screen work/keying it's worth shooting ProRes. There's no difference between 4K UHD vs C4K, apart from the 256 pixels extra horizontal resolution in C4K

@rankoutsiderproductions6006

4 ай бұрын

@@RedFrameTech Thanks for this. I'm just a keen amateur experimenting with diffeerent formats, and thought I would try to shoot open gate, which I had assumed needed to start with 5.8K. GH6 offers me a choice of 3 recording formats - MP4,MOV and Apple Prores, but 5.8K is only available in MOV. If I want to use Apple Pro Res I need to select 5.7K, which does produce big files and needs a fast card. I read that Apple Prores gives higher quality images, but will it be noticably betetr than just recording in UHD?

@RedFrameTech

4 ай бұрын

@@rankoutsiderproductions6006 It seems like you’re a bit confused about the differences between resolutions, codecs and containers. I think you may want to watch my video on codecs kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3Z-w7StqNDenKw.html But the short answer to your question is: no, you probably won’t be able to tell a quality difference between ProRes and the internal All-I or LongGOP codecs when you don’t do heavy color grading or keying.

@rankoutsiderproductions6006

4 ай бұрын

@@RedFrameTech Thank you again.I'm going to be doing some outdoor activity filming involving people, moving machines and countryside, mainly in daylight. This will be published on my KZread channel for friends to view, mainly on their computers. I will also use it for viewing on UHD TV. I will probably shoot in 4K 50p 422 10i (so 16:9).

👍🏾🙏🏾

was that c4k all-intra or LongGOP

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Can’t remember what I had it set to as it wasn’t relevant to this video.

The screen resolution also matters a lot. 4K won't be much better than 1080 on a 1080 monitor. I think people forget to take into account the intended viewing screens when choosing a resolution. What is the resolution of the monitor you used for the test? I use a 4k 32" monitor and I can see a difference, but it's also a specialized editing monitor. I've yet to try comparing 5.7 or 5.8 vs 4k/1080. For most applications 1080 is still plenty so I choose aspects and resolutions based on how easily it can be cropped into different formats like vertical for social media

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

You’re absolutely right. I should’ve been more clear about that. Thanks for mentioning that. My monitor for the test was a 4k 27”

@BarryMaskell

Жыл бұрын

I’m watch this in 480p on my iPhone

funny fact: the 4K on GH6 less sharp than 4K on my G7. I wonder if 5.7K actually sharper than 4K in other cameras :/

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Mmm, interesting 🤔

@NikitaGarets

Жыл бұрын

@@RedFrameTech i think it's definitely a bit sharper anyway, but wondering to see the difference. In my experience, the 4K from Sony a6300 was sharper than Panasonic's cameras by 20-30% so perhaps Sony still holds against 5.7K

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

@@NikitaGarets I could depend very much on how digital sharpening is being applied in different cameras. I think for a good comparison, in-camera sharpness should be dialed down to 0 and all settings should match as closely as possible. And the same lens needs to be used. Maybe I’ll do something like that in a video

So in reality, the C4K is a cropped 16:9 in sensor image terms, I understand the possible uses in post but it is kinda weird they don't announce it as such. I would not call it useless as such but a little misleading, yes.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good way of putting it!

C4k полезна у gh5s. Значительно расширяется кадр, ну и кроп фактор становится 1.796х

C4k is better for some anamorphic lenses based on the aspec ratio, with C4k 17:9 you will get real cinemascope with a 1.33x lens, if you have a 2x anamorphic lens then you must use 5.7k, resolutions of the GH6 are based on anamorphic lenses, the sensor is 4:3 and you have to modify capture using anamorphic lenses, BTW C4K is NOT useless.

@RedFrameTech

7 ай бұрын

Not sure I’m following you. 5.8K open gate would be the mode for anamorphic, regardless of squeeze factor. You can crop it to any aspect ratio you want afterwards whilst keeping the same width as with shooting 17:9. Also, why would you have to shoot 5.7k when using a 2x anamorphic lens as opposed to C4k? As I said in the video, 17:9 is the widescreen standard. Has nothing to do with anamorphic afaik. Anamorphic originally came from squeezing a wide image onto 3:2 35mm film

@furkonige

7 ай бұрын

@@RedFrameTech C4K 17:9 is better for 1.33x and 5.7k is the only way to get real 2x anamorphic, you can not get real 2x anamorphic using C4k, what means real?, non cropped full frame 3:2, also I think the camera is great in any resolution, I am only doing anamorphics with the GH6, I bought it because the sensor 3:2 because I dont hace money for an Arri Alexa anamorphic... cheers

@RedFrameTech

7 ай бұрын

I’m still not following.. your explanation doesn’t really make sense to me. Why aren’t you just shooting 5.8k open gate for anamorphic and then cropping it to whatever aspect ratio you want? The width stays the same that way. But thanks for trying to explain it to me! Thanks for watching!

"am I missing something?" C4K is useful for mobile phone delivery.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Could you explain how that’s useful? Because the extra resolution won’t be noticeable on a phone and there will still be black bars

@maxresdefault8330

Жыл бұрын

Some KZreadrs, especially those who's audience are mainly watching on mobile butt still want it to look good on a big screen, deliver in 2:1 so the extra vertical resolution is useless to them. I edit my stuff in 2:1 because I think it looks cooler.

@RedFrameTech

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough. Although, if you deliver in 2:1 and shot 4K UHD, it's only a one-click step to add black bars and you keep a bit of room to reframe vertically. And 4K UHD still looks good on a big 4K screen. So, not sure I'm convinced of the usefulness. But if it works for you, that's great! 🙂