Luke Sandoe | Thoughts On The Newest Report | Fouad Abiad & Ben Chow
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Fouad and Ben discuss Luke's final report that was just released and give their thoughts about it.
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As a fan of Luke I don't need to know anything, other than Luke came into my life and gave me a friendly face to watch. Only positives remain as now I have Fouad, Ben and the Shed. Happy Birthday Luke I'm going curl in the squat rack and elicit some hypertrophy.
@mesterwills
3 жыл бұрын
Cheat curls is allowed in the squat rack aswell!, i totally feel what you feel towards luke.
@BigTyronie
3 жыл бұрын
I cant watch the old episodes with Luke anymore. Even pics or short clips get me a bit choked up.
Fouad and Ben, thank you very much for taking the time to make this video
Luke sandoes death inspired me to tell my mom how I am suicidal and depressed, so I donated to his family. I’m not saying this to brag but to show how he impacts people.
@benchow6257
3 жыл бұрын
This is something I've heard countless times since we lost Luke and I think it's incredible that his passing has saved so many people!
@Kai-ln7sn
3 жыл бұрын
Ben Chow thanks bro you’re a great friend he’d be proud
@padraig88
3 жыл бұрын
Hang in there Kai!
@doczenith5491
3 жыл бұрын
Boo hoo. Fuckin hell. Previously generations were storming beaches and swinging battle axes.... and your depressed. Cope!
@dermaltec7243
2 жыл бұрын
Good for you…keep reaching out you will find help and help yourself 👍
I appreciate Luke for who he was. How he left this world doesn't really matter to me what matters is that he's gone. He needs to be celebrated for the amazing person he was. RIP Luke
@betiona1507
3 жыл бұрын
This!!
Mental health is health.
Something Luke said once has always stuck me, and it resonate because it made such sense to me: ‘I don’t think I know how to be happy’ ... I don’t want and it’s not our place to speculate. But that sticks with me, I think it says a lot.
I think anyone who has taken the time to listen and follow along with this story understands Luke was too aware of his own health for heart failure to be an accident. This technicality is to benefit those closest to him that may not understand his struggles to ease their minds from wondering. I think ultimately the conflicting statement came from a place of compassion for the hearts and minds of Luke’s children. Not to contradict or make anyone out to be a liar. I think it is important to understand “both can be true” and the importance of mental health for the rest of the community, while also acknowledging this new information doesn’t come from a place of ill intent.
@FouadAbiad
3 жыл бұрын
I think making Luke look like a steroid abusing bber and saying that was the cause of his heart attack comes from a place of ill intent regardless of who its trying to protect.
@johngallagher9589
3 жыл бұрын
Fouad Abiad the only people who believe that aren’t real fans of Luke and they’re the same people who would have said the drugs made him commit suicide if that was listed as the cause of death. Unfortunately people suck, and they will believe whatever narrative fits their biases. There is an unfortunate stigma that comes with this lifestyle but for those who listened to Luke, you, Ben, and James they know the truth. They know Luke wasn’t reckless and he was very much in the drivers seat with his supplement use. Your protectiveness of his legacy is well placed and I believe you all are doing the right thing by him. There is just more at play than what we see at face value. You can’t change the opinions of people who are ignorant of the situation and want to believe they can blame PED’s for what happened. Speak your truth, spread your positivity, and fuck anyone who revels in your loss.
@whiteroseproject7207
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't he just have all sorts of bloodwork done too?
Bless you both..And James..Brothers from different mothers.. Rest In Peace Luke The Legend...🏋️♂️
This just started and I'm hurting just by the looks on your faces God bless you guys stay strong
Luke was a wonderful human being and bodybuilder. He put a smile on my face everyday and I enjoyed watching his workouts. He inspired me a lot. I hope his children will grow up and be proud of what their dad accomplished. Rest in peace🙏
My 2 daughters mother passed from suicide nearly 2 yrs ago... They know it.. Her family knows it... She messaged one of my daughters and a couple of people about it just prior to finding her... It sucks...it's sad But my girls know it to be true.. She was bipolar and ADHD.. Tried it before... Her family though has decided to make that it was an accident and she didn't intend to do it... That's fine,it's a hard reality to understand...it annoys my littlest one, cuz she KNOWS they know and insist on acting like it was an accident... Families and loved ones struggle with this particular passing, it's stigma... Just thought I'd share... My girls know the mental struggles their Mom dealt with... And they,with counseling and time have healed(to the degree one can move forward) Best to you both And to his loved ones... Pain from loss loved ones is the hardest,worst,and most confusing to deal with TC
@lauraspitz440
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Best wishes for you and your daughters
@kingmd1371
3 жыл бұрын
@@lauraspitz440 thanks for that...I hope Fouad and Ben can just let it rest..they know and they told the reality with love and care for their friend...Luke can be at peace with that
@GregLockFitness
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing brother 🙏🏼
this was good of you guys to do this. Luke was no phony, he was as real as it gets. He would have wanted everyone to know the truth and not a falsehood. I’ll take the word of you and Ben over a family he was estranged from
Loyalty runs deep in you two.
I’d love to have a friend like Ben.
My heart hurts Fouad and Ben. Im 41 and jus lost two more people this year . im hurt man, tired of losing friends. :/
It couldn’t have been easy to make this. I appreciate you both so much for bringing it to light. You guys are good friends and great inspiration. I can only wish to have mates like you both when I’m gone.
Luke used to train me and my ex partner in Essex, and we knew him for many years. He was never really close with his family, but had other issues which aren't fair to discuss. If you have half a brain its not hard to see what you could use to cause loss of consciousness and then ultimately heart failure. Either way its such a shame as the guy was hilarious and just fun to be around. Lastly he never used stupid amounts of drugs, I even pushed him to let me use more and he always said you don't need it - which was true.
Thank you so much guys for putting this up at such a difficult time. What incredible friends Luke has. I'm not to ashamed to say that there's a tear in my eye. Thank you again and much love 🙏❤
It doesn't make sense how it's changed but I can see why. They want to protect his kids from thinking he was selfish or have them blaming themselves. However they should have released this ages ago. Luke never took high doses.
@robbyybt
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone responds differently though, some people get gyno from barely any ped usage and some can take huge amounts and never get gyno. For how easily luke put mass on compared to everyone else it would seem reasonable he would be more susceptible to heart hypertrophy compared to regular users. (not stating its what happened, just logically could see it being a case)
@Keep_It_G
3 жыл бұрын
Kevs2good this occurred during the lockdown. He would have no need to take higher doses with no way to train. What the new report does is takes away from the mental health aspect and paints bodybuilders in a worse image
@joenaps104
3 жыл бұрын
@Richard Pajooh well said no one ever thinks about the other variables involved!
Sorry but I think waiting to release that post until his birthday is disgusting. Allowing his closest friends to grieve all this time, wondering if they could have prevented his death is truly terrible. It’s almost mean. It’s such a selfish and self-important mindset. I get it, his family don’t think they owe anyone an explanation but to hold onto that info and stay quiet just so they can make a ‘big announcement’ on his birthday is so, so weird.
@TheCeiteach
3 жыл бұрын
The fact they called it their final gift to him - disgusting.
@TheBlueBlur100
3 жыл бұрын
Can yall just let it go. How you guys are gonna call the his son and daughter "disgusting" and "selfish" and "self-important"
@TheCeiteach
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlueBlur100 lol - what? You think it was his 8yr old son or 15yr old daughter who wrote the statement? No.
Very strong of u guys to pull this video off, it means alot! The feeling to walk around with anxiety and depression is hard to explain. The body is constantly in a fight or flight mode. Over time it could be very harsh on the body in so many ways, never underestimate the mental health -it controls every function in the body. Someone that havent been there will never understand how it feels. Much respect for Luke and for u guys!
I really appreciate this video guys. Much love to you both❤️
Really sorry for your loss. Listening to you guys felt like talking with friends. Thankyou for taking time to speak with us about this sensitive topic.
So sorry for Ben and ur loss !!! U both r great dudes !!! This is why I’m hooked on all the content u put out thx u 💯❤️ abs hope you try to ha e a great day 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you for the honesty guys. I have been a fan of Luke’s and Ben’s for a very long time. Way before Luke was the badass juggernaut, haha. I remember being so proud when I got the “Top Fan” title next to my name when I made a post because I looked up to Luke so much. I miss Luke.........I struggle with mental health issues and have my whole life. I wish I would have reached out more to let him know how much he motivated me and let him know he was a value added to my life along with many others. I know it may not have changed anything but he has taught me to never make that same mistake again. Ben & Fouad I appreciate your loyalty and honesty. You both inspire me in to become better inside and outside of the gym. I appreciate everything you do for the community. Thanks for the gr8 motivation, you both are added value to my life and so many others........be proud of that!
Appreciate the time spent from both of you... you can see the love and brotherhood you felt for Luke. RIP Juggernaut We miss you greatly
“Let the dead rest”
@Brennaneggers
3 жыл бұрын
guess what I don’t think you’re knowledgeable enough on that to make such a conjecture.
Still a sad thing to go through. Thanks for sharing and being open about your pain and struggles
I’m still very appreciative of this show and you guys!! Thank you for continuing and love Luke forever!!
My dad died of heart failure also I was told,then once a adult my mom told me it was suicide... Truth hurts but best to get it out good work guys...
@betiona1507
3 жыл бұрын
I always want the truth, no matter how painful it is
@user-dc8xp7kg9b
3 жыл бұрын
So sorry for your loss
@Paul-vt8ff
3 жыл бұрын
My dad had a major heart attack and 2 strokes at the same time. But he pulled through.. i was lucky.. sorry for your lose dude 🙏🏼😔
I'm really glad you put this video out Fouad, as always you come across as respectful, authentic and honest. You do Luke's memory proud. It is pretty apparent that both narratives are true. Thank you for the time and effort you put into producing quality videos with integrity, you are a great ambassador for bodybuilding.
Thank you both for taking the time to elaborate on this. I may speak with the presumption that all have listened to all the words that were not said in previous podcasts, including those with Luke on but your audience will understand it well enough, luckily. Much strength to you both and all friends and family. 🙏🏽
Thanks to you both for all you have gone through & are still going through to create this video .. to me stress, mental health & physical health are all one and the same when it comes to our well being, whatever the cause of death was the fact is that the World lost someone who was very important to many people for different reasons & Luke will be missed but not forgotten 😔
I've watched every minute of every podcast luke was in, on this show and others. Luke so rarely talked about his family, ill take the word of his brothers who were with him everyday over people who happen to share genetic material.
@benchow6257
3 жыл бұрын
You are a perceptive man! 100%
@dylandavis5240
3 жыл бұрын
@@benchow6257 thanks man! Nothing but love your way, if there's anything a random guy on the internet can do to help out let me know.
Thank you for making this video Ben and Fouad.
Know it's hard for you guys but thank you and please stay strong
Thank you to you both for being a voice for Luke, I know its not easy to talk about any of this stuff and I can see how much respect you have for him. My partner and I loved watching his videos together, he would always make us laugh and keep us motivated (along with you found, thank you) in our on going fitness journey. We stand with you and respect him. Thank you.
Thank you both for making this I really appreciate it! I followed Luke and watched all his video he was one hell of a guy I appreciate this video!!
I really do appreciate everything you, and you guys are putting out. I hope everything goes amazing for you.And I think you’re handling “this” really well
Love that you guys made this video so much. Saw that post and it threw me for a loop. As a bodybuilding fan who is health conscience and has anxiety Luke’s death was close to home. Glad you guys cleared things up and as always came out as honest as possible. You guys are great for the sport.
Wow guys.. thank you so much for this video.. can’t say it enough how helpful this is🙏🙏 I’m sure this would have helped many many people understand this
Luke’s family was estranged so I’ll take the word over Luke’s friends >> family who weren’t really involved in his life . Yes it might have been heart failure but it was a direct cause of what Luke did the day
Thank you very much for responding! Very difficult subject. In the end cause of, doesn't even matter! Eternally sad that we lost someone so young that had endless potential in way more areas than just bodybuilding.
Thank you Guys
Thank you guys so much for this. As loyal followers, I feel we were all confused with the statement today and wanted to hear from you guys, the one's in the know. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. RIP #LUKETHELEDGEND
I was so confused when I saw the post, thank you both for clarifying. Rest in Peace Luke❤
@chefrobbyp
3 жыл бұрын
So basically he took a super dose of insulin
Much respect to Fouad & Ben for doing this video..I know how hard it is to discuss a friends passing. Fouad you are an honest man that always tries to do what's right and I love that👊🙏 Happy Birthday to Luke and may he rest in peace. Your all stand up guys.
We never doubted you Ben and Fouad.
Well said and well done. I’m sorry you two even had to go on here today and revisit this.
Thanks guys, think you nailed it my thoughts went in the same direction “both can be one in the same” and that their is no need to be trying to change the narrative, more so on a day to remember his life. He would be proud of you both.
@CB-kc5ys
3 жыл бұрын
exactly
Respect for making the video thank you
Thank you both for your unwavering support of Luke, your unwavering love of our sport, and being as candid as you possibly can during such a difficult and sensitive time. Happy Birthday, Luke Sandoe and may you forever RIP 🙏 💪🏽
Hope you guys are doing okay and are keeping strong. Its amazing that you guys are doing this for Luke.
Very hard and sensitive situation to address but you guys did well with what you were able to say with respect to other people close to Luke. RIP LUKE 🙏
Thank you Gentlemen. Much respect always.👍
Instantly needed you guys to address. I believe you 💯 and when I saw the post it was upsetting
Extremely respectful, well done fellas. You nailed it
Absolutely understand what you guys are getting at. I have no doubt of the original story. Thanks for making the video guys, we can see how tough it was, but know it's appreciated by the fans.
Fouad and Ben just wanna say thank you for you guys taking the time to do this as I can imagine it’s not really an easy subject to talk especially someone who’s close to you and consider a good friend iron brother and partner in crime kinda of thing too but I got nothing to say at this hard time at the moment but massive respect and love for you guys 🙏🏾❤️💪🏾
Thank you Fouad and Ben for making this vid.I know it must be really hard to do. Im glad i got the chance to meet Luke last year in Cologne.Luke the legend will always inspire me to improve.Personally i think you can add 2 and 2 together.Its shit talking about it but if someone were to take an overdose,heart failure is definitely a possible outcome.I've had clinical depression before and mental health doesnt care how big you are,what car you drive,if youre rich or strong etc.People will always find something to blame it on like the gear and the bodybuilding lifestyle.
I didn’t even know Luke but he indirectly helped me, as do you two. It’s shot to see you both so shaken and visibly upset. Stay strong and thank you both.
Thank you guys. 🙏 RIP Luke
As you are saying how both stories can be true at the same time, I believe I understand where you are coming from with that statement Fouad. To the extent he induced heart failure to lighten the story on his kids? In any event just his passing is heartbreaking, and he did inspire a great deal of people to better themselves! It definitely saddens me that this would be released on his birthday of all days. And my heart goes out to his family and to all of his friends and loved ones and to everybody that Luke touched in his walk through life
I just want to say thank you for this video
This was one of the first posts i seen this morning and was very confused ...Luke was a very amazing individual who i never had the pleasure to meet ..but through ur pod cast and vids from the outside looking in he such a amazing ora about him that u could tell simply by the people around him and how he effected there lives ....i know this must have been so very hard for u guys and i do greatly appreciate the the video ...love u guys and god bless
It’s lovely to see just how cared about he truly was and is. You can tell his two friends here only have his best interests at heart.
I can understand a Family wanting the best for a family member who has passed, Luke was Luke, he was loved and admired, its terrible we lost Luke and he will always be remember as Luke..but his death has also brought mental health to the forefront, something people don’t want to deal with but now we should....You three ( James, Ben , and Fouad) should be proud how you handled Luke’s passing and the Love you three still give Luke...Thanks for speaking for Luke.
You both made it very clear and very respectful. ☘️👊
Thank you.
thank you guys. I think someone should speak for Luke too
This was a very hard video to make but you and Ben said everything you had to say. I definitely have the utmost respect for the both of you! Loyalty just isn’t when someone is around it’s when they are not here to defend themselves. #Respect
I choose to believe that Luke was a great bodybuilder with a kind heart who has had a profound impact on many many people, including those like myself who never met him. Accept both statements yes and thank you Fouad and Ben for saying what you did. One day when I pass, I want to be remembered for my contributions and how I touched people's lives. I would think Luke would want to be remembered in a similar light. Respect for the Juggernaut!
Thank you
So sorry for you guys
thanks bro we all appreciate it we know it’s hard,for the both of you,we love you guys and appreciate you two thanks bros❤️
You can suffer heart failiure, in the event of taking your life, whichever way that is. I think given the original news and now this, you should be able to add 2+2 & understand what happened. Thats all thats needs to be known. Happy Birthday Luke ❤
Eventually the truth will come out about how he did it, I think a lot of us have heard the same thing. I completely respect and understand why Hoss and Ben won’t discuss it though, they knew and loved him personally so it makes sense that Ben doesn’t think fans have the “right” to know. I would feel the same way. RIP Luke the Legend!
So sorry you guys have to be doing this. All the best to you guys as you go through this complicated hard time.
I hope you are both doing okay. 🙏🏾 thank you for the transparency
@FouadAbiad
3 жыл бұрын
👊🏽
Thank you to both Ben and Fouad. At the end of the day, the real cause does not matter. What matters is that the world lost an outstanding human, who touched the lives of many, and an even more outstanding father.
Well done both of you 👌🏼
Well handled guys. Respect you both
You both are very good people for the love and respect you give to your friends
FOUAD, JAMES, BEN, I just came here to tell you that whatever you may be thinking in this very moment, you are absolutely so important to me as a fan, as a man trying to improve my life, and as someone who needs good role models to look up to. STAY HUGE FOREVER
my condolences to Luke's friends and family. Good for you guys making a video, when it obviously was difficult. Don't let a social media post take away who Luke was to you! Keep on going! Stay strong Fouad and Ben! Love the content. Can't stop listening to it! Also I'm upset deontrai Campbell didn't go with your brand! He goes to my gym. That would have been awesome!
I appreciate you guys for doing this for Luke. May he RIP 💐 #lukethelegend
🙏🏻🙏🏻 well said and only right , I think anyone that knew or watched Luke on the podcasts knew how transparent he was about his ped use but even more about his insistence on being as healthy as you could possibly be being a professional bodybuilder .
I can’t imagine how hard it is for you guys and indeed his other friends and family. Like you’ve said in previous videos nothing will bring him back and the specific details of his death shouldn’t matter to his fans. What matters is remembering how great he was and how many he effected positively.
I hope when all this internet noise has calmed down, and you get some time to yourselves; you both take the time to appreciate what phenomenal friends you have been and that so few people out there have the integrity to approach such a difficult topic in such a difficult circumstance and deal with all of that whilst taking the harsh truths head-on yet still steadfastly protecting their friends privacy. You have both been remarkable sources of respect, dignity and loyalty at a time when such qualities seemed to be in extremely short supply. And as is so clear in Ben's case, despite the obvious pain and loss, nothing has stopped you stepping up to defend your friend. - its incredibly reassuring to see that people can still find the courage to find their best even at a time when things must feel so awful.
Thank you for being true to yourself, truth, story and your friend.
Love you guys
We all really need to be supportive of the boys here especially Ben. The statement was clearly a jab at the painful information Luke’s best mate had to release in the name of honesty. There will be character assassins going after him here but, we all know there was nothing to gain in Ben divulging the information other than being an honest person. Sadly, this may be a financial move or simply a way for the family to protect his children. Either way we need to let the man rest and give love to everyone affected by this loss of life.
@CB-kc5ys
3 жыл бұрын
Ben doesnt seeem like the type to lie..dude even admits when his physique isnt up to par where it needs to par where it needs to be and when it is on point come on now
@chopst11x92
3 жыл бұрын
lader baxter hes always been a straight shooter. He’s being very respectful here, again we have to be supportive.
Respectful as always guys. Well done. #RIPLuke
It seems to me, with no disrespect, that it’s an easy escape to blame it on bodybuilding, gear etc.
@_ramos_horror__3586
3 жыл бұрын
No actually ul find hardly any bodybuilder didrd from gear so ur wrong they died cus they were taking cocaine and other stuff the media blame steroid use which is bullshit
Thank you guys for taking the time to help us as fans of Luke to understand the actual truth, and the most important thing today anyway is happy birthday Luke we all miss you.
Classy guys, much respect for all of you, Luke was and always will be very fortunate to have had such amazing friends ❤
its so sad, the man died and he was one of the most respected bodybuilder of my generation in my opinion, he was such an amaizing person and now that hes dead can that person on his instagram leave him in peace?
Thankyou for this, the statement earlier I think scared us all knowing how carefull Luke was with his health
Such gentleman and wonderful role models for everyone and the sport
I have only recently got into body building. A bit strange you might think for a fourty year old woman you think but hey. I came across Luke and Fouads podcast randomly at 3 am on KZread. Their honesty and humour had me hooked. Luke seems to have been the kind of guy that would stick up for the underdog. Honestly a genuinely nice guy who cared about his family his friends and his fans. Many people in the public eye forget where they came from, Luke always had his feet on the ground and whilst I'm sure he wasn't perfect he certainly had his head screwed on. I never knew him beyond KZread, the podcasts, Instagram posts and promotions for redcon1 still, when I found out he had passed away I felt a loss. As his friends I can only imagine what you are going through. Thank you for your honesty guys. Luke's fans appreciate it.