Anoher grouse video - you blokes are my 'go to' when researching my boat equipment. I opted for a HDSLive after seeing your material and it's been my best purchase to date. Keep up the good work.

I want to see the anchor modes tested for accuracy. That is the biggest thing for me.

You should also tell everyone that for the price of the Ghost, you also get free non-existent customer service, and a warranty that is based completely on arbitration... That will never be in your favor. So basically if it breaks, and the store you bought it from won't take it back, you're F'd. Lowrance should just keep making their middle of the road fish-finders. And leave trolling motors to companies that have been making them for years, and do it well.

@jameswarner7196

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, lowrance is for tracker buyers and cheap bass pro brand boats

@nathanbutcher1864

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a hummin bird user who’s just sad he spent all his money on non touch screen graphs and can’t read active target or livescope💀

@RIPPER334

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanbutcher1864 Well... Sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about there junior. Best let the grown up talk at this table.

@nathanbutcher1864

2 жыл бұрын

@@RIPPER334 lmao where you fish at then big dog? I’d smoke you in a tourney

@RIPPER334

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanbutcher1864 So did you delete you comment? Or did it get zapped? I'll quote it from the notification just in case... "RIPPER334 lmao where you fish at then big dog? I’d smoke you in a tourney" Either way.... I've been fishing since before you knew what a video game was. I don't need electronics to catch fish junior. It's a crutch... Used by people who don't know enough about what their fishing for, or the water their fishing in, to compete. And that doesn't change the fact that two years after my original comment, lowrance still makes a shitty trolling motor. 🤣

Thanks for the test y'all guys are great.

Justin, great video, however you should have done a test with accuracy of the anchor functions. My guess is, that's where there will be the most difference. That's THE main reason people want the ultrex. And it's what got these other companies into the tm game.

@hunternorthern2091

5 жыл бұрын

You are definitely correct because the xi5 has nothing as far as the spot lock feature goes to the ultrex so to see how accurate the Lowrance trolling motor is would be a big bonus.

@HellaBass

5 жыл бұрын

@@hunternorthern2091 100% agree Bryce, these other differences are pretty small & that little variance could happen between a good & bad motor coming off the line in my opinion, pretty small statistical sample size for these speed and power measurements

@RussellMarineProductsLLC

5 жыл бұрын

we will be doing a round 2 comparison that will compare the gps/anchor/spotlock functionalities

@TreybleRockLake

5 жыл бұрын

Russell Marine Products, LLC and add the garmin in for all. MDJ was going over 4 mph today. That seems to blow these both out of the water on top speed.

Admittedly Im a Lowrance guy...Live units all the way around and I do own a 36v 112lb Ultrex that pulls my 20' Nitro around. I definitely wont be switching any time soon as my Ultrex is only about a year old and thus far, no complaints what so ever. Plus, Im always skeptical to jump on board with a brand new product its 1st time out the gate. If I ever decide to switch up, I'll hold onto my 3 grand until ole girls has moved enough water over the next few years and all the bugs have been worked out (or at least most of them).

@itszach6808

4 жыл бұрын

The Bopper cable steer is better as well

Love my Ultrex, the anchor and heading modes are game changers. It sticks like glue everywhere I've set it, even on the Illinois River. It holds in near flood stage current and surprisingly in between the convergence at the tail end of an island. Rapids on one side, river current on the other, the boat stayed on spot for a half hour!

let's see an old school tug of war between the 2 motors

Good test, helpful info, thanks for doing it. I'd love to see a test that focuses on noise level in db, and on battery life.

Tell us about the Garmin trolling motor!! Keep up the good work buddy!!

I want to hear the noise difference under the water on this motor that makes more power!

Justin, I can’t seem to see the on the water video you mentioned where you covered the hook on the Ghost head.

Cool video!! Hope to see same thingwith other trolling motors? Id suggest using hold feature on scale next time. Be a forsure reading that haters cant argue about...

I would have like to know what the amp draw comparison. This is valuable info.

My 24 year old motorguide 12v 41lb thrust with a motor guide Machete II triple blade prop trolls me around at 3-3.2mph down wind (no current) and 1.5 to 2.5mph up wind depending on wind speed. Also running on 5 year old batteries that still hold a charge like new. I get two full days usually (8 to 12 hours on the water each day) on one charge. Running off of two 125aH marine batts on an 18'3" nitro savage 884 with a 150hp OB and a couple hundred pounds of gear plus myself. Still super impressed by this new Lowrance! Might be what I put on my new Nitro Z21 or 21' Phoenix bass boat next year when I go to start that process after truck payment is over with 😂 Like the features on the pedal and the brushless motor concept a little more than the Ultrex. Which was my original TM to put on new boat.

Thanks for the video competition Sparks innovation so now that Lawrence raise the bar let's see what Minn Kota does I mean the brushless motor man that's a pretty innovative

Does the pedal provide feedback or do you have to watch the arrow?

Do a comparison of responsiveness of the foot pedal. That’s wireless has lag and causes oversteer. I could see it when doing the distance test. The boat swayed back and forth due to fighting input lag/over steer

i have a question. maybe you can give some guidance. i’m wanting to get a trolling motor and 2 units one bow and one at the wheel. i’m new to all this technology with connecting all 3. i was really set in getting the terrova with i link and 2 helix7 i’m working on a budget. i have a used 17ft targa with a 115. i really wanted as much help as i could get keeping a certain heading and the spot lock just in general trying to find and staying on the fish i will be fishing on lake ontario and lake erie for trout and walleye but really new to all of it what would you recommend looking for ease of use and easy on the wallet but at the same time i only want to do this once and do it right the first time where i can fish it for years. thanks for your time

Great comparison 👍 would be great to included the MotorGuide as well as the Garmin to see the results across the board of all 4.

@HellaBass

5 жыл бұрын

and a larger sample size of data collected, more motors & more data points

Does it freeze up in .7 fow and you have to restart it to get it to work again.

In addition to the spot lock comparisons, I would like to see a "noise" test of each trolling motor. Basically, how loud are they when turning or operating?

@RussellMarineProductsLLC

5 жыл бұрын

We will be doing a round two comparison comparing these tests as well.

@nightanddaymarine8823

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/gYmVxtSpkcLfqso.html here us a video that has noise comparisons. If you listen closely behind the water noise, the lowrance is a little quiter.

@mmmbass6068

5 жыл бұрын

Yep spot lock and noise top of the list - end of story

any chance on running the MotorGuide Tour Pro through an evaluation?

More interested in spot lock, anchor mode in wind & waves. How does it perform in weeds?

@castaway6811

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely...that's why I watched this ,,

@Allegiance_Outdoors

5 жыл бұрын

@@castaway6811 me too 100%! Its the quality and functionality of the features that mean the most and adds the most $ to the price tag!

Looks like the lowrance was a struggle to keep in a straight line

Great video Justin. I too echo Bryce Weaver’s comment regarding the anchor feature. Without a test run, I’m not seeing a big gap from a performance standpoint. Now the sync feature to your units, great! I need more

@RussellMarineProductsLLC

5 жыл бұрын

we will be doing a round 2 comparison that will include the anchor challenge as well.

I want to know what the noise comparison is. I love my Ultrex, never had anything like it...none of us have. But it's noisy.

excellent video but you forgot something very important, compare the energy consumption of both

The main thing that people care about you didn’t test every trolling motor that strong is going to push you fast enough and keep you in place and go through grass we want to see the spot lock and anchor comparison that is what the people really care about other than that great video

I think you need two identical boats to do these comparisons side by side. An analog/traditional SCALE will help measure the thrust. Anyway, hard work, but not scientific enough!

How do they compare with motor noise?

Is it just me or is your gps speed on your HDS Live unit not fairly unstable when you test max speed on each trolling motor? Compared with my HDS gen 3 it looks very unstable.

I also did a similar pull test and am disgusted that manufacturers outright lie about the pound force ratings. Half of what is advertised is typical.

@jasonrutherfordbassfishing

2 жыл бұрын

Pound of thrust are in no way pounds of pulling weight, it’s a simple ratio of max RPM, and prop size which equals how much water is pushes “thrust”

@Andy-df5fj

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonrutherfordbassfishing For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

Y’all gonna do something on the new garmin trolling motor now too?

@HellaBass

5 жыл бұрын

🍿🍿🍿🍿

@RussellMarineProductsLLC

5 жыл бұрын

Yes we will be doing a comparison on garmin's trollingmotor as well.

Hey good video. I think it's funny how many haters there are out there. The ghost is clearly a better built trolling motor. And everyone talks about the price but if you get the ultras with all the extra features like the Lowrance has, the Ghost is only about $100 more. Well worth the extra money for a better built trolling motor that doesnt need the brushes replaced and have to deal with electric interference.

Good video ,, I think I want the minn kota . It’s proven

I'll stay with minnkota as for the speed and other few diffrence not worth the extra money.

Does the ghost have si transducer option?

Need a spotlock comparison by a buoy.i wanted a ghost till I seen a 2 piece shaft.bought the ultrex

what does the Ghost hand held remote look like....

Will transducer work with the Hook2

Does the ghost have a wireless remote?

Justin "How about now" Russell

Do a durability test on all new trolling motors put them on full power and run them into a stump or rocks

@JTfishing6130

5 жыл бұрын

expensive test lol.

@leaveorlibertyfishing7670

5 жыл бұрын

And who would ever do that other than the occasional accident.

@lloydrush5026

5 жыл бұрын

EverForward Fishing obviously no one would ever do that on purpose but accidents happen. Wouldn’t you agree that if you were spending over $3k on a trolling motor that you’d like it to be a very durable product? I’d hate to drop that much cash for it to be so brittle that it breaks the first time your going down a bank chunking and winding and don’t see the stump that’s barely under the water

@leaveorlibertyfishing7670

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I hear man but are you chucking and winding at full speed down the bank just doesn’t seem practical nor smart and like you said if you were to spend that kinda cash it really wouldn’t be smart running down the back at full speed. I’d rather see it in some thick vegetation and see how it does not running it full speed into stumps and rocks

@leaveorlibertyfishing7670

5 жыл бұрын

But to each there own man

Looking forward to seeing if Lowrance comes out with an equivalent to the Ulterra????

@joshuawillett850

4 жыл бұрын

How much is that gonna cost? 5 grand? This one already cost almost a thousand more and it doesn't even come with a remote control

@TeamJesusOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

It is unfortunate that the price is so high on these trolling motors. Hopefully competition will start bringing prices down a bit.

Does he ever say what the lb thrust for the ghost was?

Does the Lowrance have spot lock ? To keep you from drifting off your spot

@RussellMarineProductsLLC

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it does

Shame you couldn't get the motors to do a consistent pull. When you do the test can you also take some voltage checks on the battery and use an amp clamp. I wonder if the lowrance is really more efficient when it comes down to power and battery autonomy.

not impressed at all. I believe you started the clock before you even took off with the Ultrex. And why wasn't the spot lock compared? $1000 difference in price its a no brainer Ultrex wins.

@raywilliams6098

5 жыл бұрын

yes the test was total bs and favored towards the weight in gold lowrance!! NOT FAIR AT ALL WITH CLOCK

@nightanddaymarine8823

5 жыл бұрын

Actually the Minn Kota is only about $100 less if you get the package that comes with the mega imaging which is the only package comparable to what the Lowrance comes with. And going to be the same price as the new Garmin motor as well. Unfortunately all the new premium trolling motors coming out this year are now going to start around $3000.

@Tcjbassin

5 жыл бұрын

@@nightanddaymarine8823 maybe at retail, but you can scoop an ultrex used or even still in box not used for less than 2500 with mega, link, 52" shaft, 112 lb. Also I've heard nothing but negatives about lowrance customer service

@nightanddaymarine8823

5 жыл бұрын

@@Tcjbassin There's actually a bunch of really good techs at Lowrance but of course the angry people always yell louder than the happy ones. Of course that's irrelevant because the Ghost trolling motors are going to be completely handled through the dealers for service and not though Lowrance directly. And i'm sure once the Ghost has been out for a bit you will be able to get one of them at a discount as well. The Ultrex has been out on the market for almost 3 years now. As far as technology is concerned, that's kind of out dated.

Maybe they should have made the livesight better. Why put out products that doesn’t beat the competition. I’m questioning my purchase of the carbon 16 &12. I’ll keep my ultrex.

@deltapromasterlauj4848

5 жыл бұрын

RWP2 yup feel sorry for you and all the guys who purchased the live units🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😔😔😔😔Humminbird=Garmin>Lowrance

Brushless lower units are definitely the way to go so from that standpoint the Lowrance has a large advantage. I also like the ability to change the internal transducer if it is damaged, which is something you can't do with any of the Minn Kota trolling motors...BUT that's only an advantage if you use Lowrance graphs, which because of my past dealings with Lowrance's terrible customer service I would not own unless Lowrance came out with some revolutionary feature that Garmin or Humminbird didn't have. To be honest I am biased against anything with the Lowrance name on it because of their poor customer service. Because of my experiences with Pin Point electronic steering trolling motors I would absolutely not buy a trolling motor without cable steering because you can't "feel" which direction your lower unit is facing or how much you need to correct it. I understand the Ultrex has some flaws with their cables breaking (along with a sensor in the foot pedal that shorts out when it gets too wet) and I wouldn't buy an Ultrex until those issues are fixed. Spot lock is a very appealing feature but I would not buy either one of these units as they are now.

he defiantly wants the lowrence to win

After watching the video make your own conclusions, but there is no reason to ditz the guy. He's just doing his best in a non-scientific manner. I have 3 Carbon 12's and a Live 9 on my boat and a 112 52" Ultrex. I use my waypoints, Point 1, and Spot Lock constantly. I see no need to switch out my new Ultrex (non-link) for this new toy, but some guys need/want the latest and supposedly 'greatest'.

That Lowrance motor is hideous looking though.

Do you need do use the trolling motor and heavy Kissimmee grass in Florida you’ll be surprised that it doesn’t make it through it there’s an 8th inch thick gap between the prop and the motor and it pulls in all the weeds and Boggs down and then the overhead heat sensor kicks in and shuts the motor down you have to turn it off turn it back on to get it to work again this is a problem

I've had my Ultrex for a whole year prior to the Ghost release. Not enough improvement to justify spending 3K on a new TM. If we're looking to buy now, Ghost gets the nod.

SPOT LOCK = GAME CHANGER..... enough said.

Imo being new to the market in trolling motors, you have to give people a reason to switch. From what I see there is not enough reason from the comparison. Make it $500 less than ultrex, people start to consider it then. Lowrance is trying to come into a new area of the market where the competition has worked for years to get. Personally, I dont think they will make it in this market and I have all lowrance depth finders on my boat.

@kendragon2827

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. They come in with their first ever trolling motor at nearly the same price as the ultrex. And another thing, why did minnkota go up about $600 just for adding the mdi transducer. Sick of companies raising prices to milk us dry. Don't get me wrong, love the ultrex i have, but the stupid anchor feature already broke the built in sonar wire

Tie at best.

These aren’t 100% right I have an ultrex and I go into the wind at 3.6

@OrilliaFishing

5 жыл бұрын

I think itll Depend on he boat and the weight you're towing

@totallldigital

5 жыл бұрын

No offense, but unless you tested your motor on his boat, using the exact same batteries & wind conditions, your results would be irrelevant. He went out of his way to emphasize this piont several times.

wait what? did you say remote????

@RussellMarineProductsLLC

5 жыл бұрын

it will have an optional remote for $99.00 more

Lol so you're basically saying a brushed motor is as good as a brushless for less money? And your 100# measurement coincides with when the boat bobs up and down.. seems sketchy to me. I love my Ultrex and this video has convinced me that the Ghost just isn't worth it.

when lawrance ghost has been around as long as the minn kota then we will see who is better. there isn't a better long lasting motor then a minn kota and motor guid is junk

@upmetalhead

4 жыл бұрын

I have only owned minnkota until i bought my xi5.... my motorguide has tons more hours than any minnkota ive owned... i just put my first set of brushes in it 3 of my friends have bought motorguides because of how much better the auto pilot and anchor modes work.... fyi my last Minnkota lit on fire, that was the death nail for minnkota for me.....

Ultrex all the way lowrance will not stand behind there products. By far Garmin is the best hands down. Better than either one.

About the only confidence I can put in any of these tests was the weight test. Overall, No scientific method used, no control in the test environments, bias could have been introduced in the tests. From an entertainment perspective, good video- otherwise as a consumer, I cannot determine which unit to purchase based on this content. Maybe that wasn’t your intent.....

They are both the same. There no real comparisons. Other then the lcd

this video was butt cheese

In my opinion all of these tests are a complete waste of time. When you are out there fishing and you just want to get from spot to spot, then any trolling motor will do as long as you have a good set of batteries. It will all come down to how much money you are willing to spend for the same "thing".

I bout an ulterra with auto stow and deploy for $2,200!!!

I never put much faith in product reviews when they are slanted to begin with. Of course he would choose the Lowrance. That is who sponsored this video and paid him. Im not bashing Lowrance bucause I use their depth finders I just don't like bogus reviews.

see total BS promises with speed and efficiency!!

you are one eyed to lowrance a bad test. you discredit yourself as dishonest.

What about the underwater noise? Which is one of the biggest issues with the Lowrance! Steering it seems to be an issue too! As said beforehand Lowrance is just midrange in quality of fishfinders, which seems to be the same at trolling motor. And there is non existent customer support the advice should be: STAY AWAY FROM LOWRANCE