Lost Foam Casting an Automotive Intake Manifold Part 3

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Second attempt at casting an aluminum automotive intake manifold using the lost foam method.

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  • @roscoepatternworks3471
    @roscoepatternworks34712 жыл бұрын

    As a 72 year old retired patternmaker, all I can say is excellent job best I've seen in a home shop.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dave. Much appreciated. Check out my automotive timing cover. People always ask me what my favorite project is.......answer: my next one! Best, Kelly

  • @roscoepatternworks3471

    @roscoepatternworks3471

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 I got in an argument with a backyard foundry man about lost foam. I told it's best to start wood. He said that's because I didn't know how. He made blocks. So I made 2 burner venturi one for demo and one for myself. I used a small cnc mill cut 4 pieces glued and posted pictures, he shut up then. Simple compared to what you're doing. But I now have a bigger cnc I might get more ambitious. That for help get off my backside.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@roscoepatternworks3471 LF has it's place. Take care, K

  • @davidnunn9583
    @davidnunn95832 жыл бұрын

    The most interesting KZread video I've seen in a very long time. Kelly, you never cease to amaze me!

  • @richardjones38
    @richardjones382 жыл бұрын

    Awesome - I imagine this must be the most complex casting anyone has made successfully at home using home made equipment.

  • @Bigredkarl
    @Bigredkarl Жыл бұрын

    You are an inspiration to us all my friend

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan67752 жыл бұрын

    This is one of those videos, you tap the screen to see how much longer it runs for... And are really happy your only half way through. Awesome work and thanks for sharing your amazing knowledge. I know I’ll be watching this a few times. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀🍀🍀😎

  • @crazymasina8524
    @crazymasina85242 жыл бұрын

    This just popped up on my feed and I've watched all 3 parts to this manifold. Extremely impressed to say the least. On the pours I would have ended up enlisting extra assistance but it's hard to gauge the actual difficulty plus muffled conversing in those masks. From a stranger on the internet, very nice work and detail. I look forward to more quality videos.

  • @TheAnonymous1one

    @TheAnonymous1one

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here lol the algorithms are working haha

  • @zekestrom
    @zekestrom2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work, Kelly! Plain and simple---outstanding!

  • @user-oj4xh8cg2l
    @user-oj4xh8cg2l2 жыл бұрын

    amazing, design, details, realization... what an achievement, singleahndedly for such a complex piece!

  • @SPSteve
    @SPSteve2 жыл бұрын

    Amazing! It really turned out nice and your ability to cast exotic parts opens doors for some very cool engine combinations. Now I want a custom 1970 Olds W-31 intake manifold with a Holley carb flange.

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan67752 жыл бұрын

    I was on the edge of my seat the whole way through this video. Definitely great editing.🤜🏼🤛🏼🇦🇺🍀🍀🍀😎🤓

  • @roboticus3647
    @roboticus36472 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive! The result as well as the foundry setup.

  • @jryer1
    @jryer12 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding attention to detail and execution. The finished quality is exemplary!

  • @mith5168
    @mith51682 жыл бұрын

    Wow…persistence paid off, more than incremental improvement…. Well done.

  • @ptoro02
    @ptoro022 жыл бұрын

    Lovin' the safety loafers! The rest of the kit is awesome too.

  • @timmer9lives
    @timmer9lives2 жыл бұрын

    Really impressive work my friend. That’s just as good as it gets.

  • @stevesrt8
    @stevesrt82 жыл бұрын

    Congrats Kelly! Glad to see it worked out this time. I was nervous watching the burping at the end of the pour. Cheers

  • @damxgopak457
    @damxgopak4572 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic one man foundry set up I'm a small gold miner and have been trying to figure a way to do bigger smelts by myself thanks your brilliant.

  • @tobhomott
    @tobhomott2 жыл бұрын

    Simply amazing. Congrats!

  • @jefflawrence3846
    @jefflawrence38462 жыл бұрын

    BIG Thumbs up. I do a bit of sand casting and machining, just found your channel, Because I am fairly good at cad design and have a 3d printer I have gone down the 3d printing, (either lost or split) method. I will try your method. Apart from your volume issues excellent content well explained, Regards and thanks from Brisbane Australia

  • @Byzmax
    @Byzmax2 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel. Outstanding work sir!

  • @qivarebil2149
    @qivarebil21492 жыл бұрын

    Great work! And - Your sound is getting a little better! 👍

  • @petsatcom
    @petsatcom2 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant Job, keep up the great work

  • @craigmeyers8793
    @craigmeyers87932 жыл бұрын

    U sir are awesome! I would be proud to learn from you!

  • @TheAnonymous1one
    @TheAnonymous1one2 жыл бұрын

    Those parts look amazing

  • @TailoredChassisSolutions
    @TailoredChassisSolutions2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Kelly, another great video! The fine mesh glass media youre using in post seems to create a great finish but if you are ever interested in seeing what these castings look like after vapor honing I would gladly do one for you gratis!

  • @brianhaygood183

    @brianhaygood183

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is vapor honing?

  • @TallGarage
    @TallGarage2 жыл бұрын

    thats one hell of a home pour setup

  • @claytonkribs9262
    @claytonkribs92622 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic, Congratulations!

  • @funksterdotorg
    @funksterdotorg2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent result!

  • @copperchatter6890
    @copperchatter68902 жыл бұрын

    Impressive. Well done.

  • @alejandroluer
    @alejandroluer Жыл бұрын

    You are an Artist

  • @memphetic
    @memphetic2 жыл бұрын

    Kelly, you've seriously inspired me. I would love to get together with you to get some direction for my endeavors.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best way to do that is www.TheHomeFoundry.org

  • @ChatterontheWire
    @ChatterontheWire2 жыл бұрын

    congrats on the 1k subscribers! definitely been interesting watching your process through here.

  • @curvs4me
    @curvs4me2 жыл бұрын

    That intake on a boss will be unbelievable. I'm going to build a 427 small block Boss based on a 351W block. An intake like that with bellmouths inside a plenum will be awesome for boost. I think I'll start with a diy built 4x8 5 axis CNC Router. It will be like cheating for making the foam pieces. That's not the reason for wanting the 5 axis but just another reason to jump in. I've been sitting on the dang fence nearly 5 years. Time to get busy living.

  • @stevesloan6775
    @stevesloan67752 жыл бұрын

    Just looked at your other videos... you got yourself a new subscriber🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼😎🍀🍀🍀

  • @pouyan225
    @pouyan2252 жыл бұрын

    Great work!

  • @batteramz
    @batteramz2 жыл бұрын

    Nice work!!

  • @Mister_G
    @Mister_G2 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive!

  • @joem6859
    @joem68592 жыл бұрын

    You are a wild man!! got watch the first 2 now...

  • @luisricardojaviernunezzamb8352
    @luisricardojaviernunezzamb83522 жыл бұрын

    ¡¡¡Un genioooo!!!....¡¡¡Quedó Maravillosoooo!!!.

  • @bubbazametti2292
    @bubbazametti22922 жыл бұрын

    Woah yeah baby shoot for the stars.. awesome! progress is progress

  • @doctordapp
    @doctordapp2 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful job! One question, is there any shrinkage using this method? I want to make some engine casings ant only want to rework the seal sides and the bearing holes...

  • @peter2uat
    @peter2uat2 жыл бұрын

    fantastic pour! could a sliding port/valve at the bottom of the flask help with getting the sand out? Bill at windy hill foundry has something similar at his tumbler and dumpsthe sand out easily.

  • @MRGF78
    @MRGF782 жыл бұрын

    Impressive... Good session...

  • @MRGF78

    @MRGF78

    2 жыл бұрын

    What size is that crucible???

  • @kisoia
    @kisoia2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic work Kelly - will you make more of these? Thanks for the video :)

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, and variants. Would like to get my CAD and CNC router up to speed for future patterns, for further refinement. Best, K

  • @customsolutionsinc
    @customsolutionsinc2 жыл бұрын

    Good job

  • @BEdmonson85
    @BEdmonson852 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Kelly, I just found your channel recently and I've been going though the backlog. Good stuff! I only wish you would invest in a better mic :) Cheers!

  • @edimarreis4023
    @edimarreis40232 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting!

  • @robertshelton3796
    @robertshelton37962 жыл бұрын

    Neighbor outside mowing, Kelly casting aluminum. :D

  • @michaellangshaw7319
    @michaellangshaw73192 жыл бұрын

    That's just great, wow

  • @NavySturmGewehr
    @NavySturmGewehr2 жыл бұрын

    I want to do this one day. I want to make an intake manifold similar to what's on the vg30dett (nissan twin turbo 3.0 v6 1989+ 300zx) but for my Cummins V8 and go dual compound turbos one set for each bank.

  • @olfoundryman8418
    @olfoundryman84182 жыл бұрын

    Ah, the sweet taste of success. Persistence, patience, and reason wins as ever. Damn well done - Bravo... Martin PS, I would have hated to try and do that casting in greensand - Oh - the core work I would have needed 😱!

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Many thanks Martin. Another of my lost foam curiosities is its (apparently higher) resistance to shrink defects. Though the flanges are 1/2" thick, the rest of the features are 1/4" wall, excepting the various mounting bosses which from a casting perspective appear as 1" diameter blobs positioned here and there around the casting. Perhaps the best example is where the long 1" diameter bosses connect the mounting flanges to the runner walls. From a casting perspective they present like six separate 1" diameter risers yet where they intersect and blend with the 1/4" thick interior runner wall surface, not a hint of shrinkage. I don't have a good explanation for this other than the combination of comparatively slow mold fill times and predominantly top to bottom feeding promotes a sort of natural directional solidification from bottom to top. -Just a theory, but whatever the cause....I'll take it! Best, Kelly

  • @olfoundryman8418

    @olfoundryman8418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 Ah, the enigma of isolated bosses and shrinkage! It may be that shrinkage has occurred via the skin sort of universally moving inwards. It can be calculated that only a few "thou" of inward movement is needed to get the boss completely solid. If the boss is still close to its melting point the skin will be soft enough to collapse inwards and provided it does not do it locally we wil never know. This whole process relies on good clean metal as it does not take much entrained oxide to serve as nuclei for shrinkage pores. High conductivity metals seem to favour sound bosses but remember that bosses may in fact have central porosity and as we often drill/tap bosses we may remove said porosity sight unseen. My experience with isolated bosses would indicate that solidification time plays a big part in what you can and cannot get away with. What I can get away with as a sand casting would likely show shrinkage in gravity die work where solidification times are much shorter. You are using dry sand so solidification times will be a lot longer and thus I would expect you to be able to get away with more. Also of course as you point out slow and very progressive mould fill plus top down feeding just has to help... Martin

  • @zebdeming
    @zebdeming2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome job Kelly! Do you account for shrinkage, are you seeing much of a dimensional difference between the pattern and the end product?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    I make the pattern 1.3% larger (101.3% of desrired casting dimensions). It produces very accurate casting size. Best, Kelly

  • @brucewilliams6292
    @brucewilliams62922 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic work. Are you going to show the machining? Do you do the heat-treating yourself? I appreciate all your hard work making these videos.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if I'll video the machining. I heat treat to T5 in the same resistive electric furnace I melt in. T5 achieves the majority of the strength and machinability improvement without the risk of casting damage. Best, Kelly

  • @brucewilliams6292

    @brucewilliams6292

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 Cool. Always more to learn. Thank you for the great video series.

  • @curvs4me
    @curvs4me2 жыл бұрын

    It's incredible! I'm going to start doing it immediately. What were you saying about the grain structure with A356 and Strontium and something else?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grain modifiers like Strontium and grain refiners such as Titanium Boride can improve the mechanical properties of aluminum casting alloys that contain silicon, such as 356. Do a google search for more. Best, Kelly

  • @curvs4me

    @curvs4me

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 Thank you Sir

  • @bobbyleescott
    @bobbyleescott2 жыл бұрын

    Kelly i love your videos but can you please get an external mic so we can hear you better. This is some great stuff!

  • @ekim000
    @ekim0002 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work. I hope the parts you make are VERY expensive as they certainly should be.

  • @kettervrooomshopfathernson4201
    @kettervrooomshopfathernson42012 жыл бұрын

    great job! excellent patternmaking! When i casted my intake i did not quenched it and could not read the temperature of my aluminium. and when i machined it and pressure tested it under water i found that it was so porous it couldnt make vacuum because of it. (for a v8 flathead from ´51 with two drawthrough turbo.s) so i ended up powdercoating them. Do you think that quenching would made the difference? i read in a book that adding argon in the bottom of your melted material would make it denser? let me know your thoughts, and again great work!!

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just quench to cool the casting and remove the refractory coating. The casting still requires post heat treating for improved strength and machining properties. Porosity is more a matter of your pour temp, molten metal treatment, and also part/mold design. I use a resistive electric furnace that has a very favorable atmosphere for aluminum. Best, Kelly

  • @richardprice5978

    @richardprice5978

    2 жыл бұрын

    good job on both of you guy's as i wasn't going to cast my intake as i figured it requires to much for me to do it right. but i did have one eddelbroc 383 BBM-B that was really porous and had a lot of sand/slag in it, i did get the weld to stick but it's not perfect or pretty but i wanted fuel injector boss's and bolt one ones for sale are slim pickings ect. my new/different engine a frankinstined G2 hemi stroker id figured that welding a crossram/3 layered runner/variability runners one up or making out of fibreglass/CF is the ticket just hope that it can hold max 30 PSI of boost and a back fire 🔥does burn it and or my car

  • @madlankan6735
    @madlankan67352 жыл бұрын

    Sir.. Can you introduce a video about raw Aloy materials please. I asked you before the same question and you replied .we cant commercialy buy the material in Sri lanka as you mentioned .

  • @robertbarnes4887
    @robertbarnes4887 Жыл бұрын

    How much do you charge to make an intake?

  • @noahbeaty6600
    @noahbeaty66002 жыл бұрын

    DO you make custom to order manifolds for anything

  • @Hitman-ds1ei
    @Hitman-ds1ei2 жыл бұрын

    Are you going to doba video of heat treat

  • @roadtested9009
    @roadtested90092 жыл бұрын

    You may have explained it in an earlier video but I'm curious about how long it takes to melt the aluminum. Also wondering whether it might have been better to cast the part in its horizontal position.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Both my furnaces are 8kw resistive electric powered, basically a kiln optimized for melting. For my smaller furnace, on first heat it takes 25 minutes for 10lb of aluminum in an A10 Crucible, and about 40 minutes for 20lbs in an A-20, 5-10 minutes less on subsequent heats. In this intake video I used my larger furnace with 50lb charge in an A60 crucible and electric heat. It took almost 2hrs because the mass of the furnace and crucible without metal is ~200lbs. My larger furnace was intended to be fuel fired but I have an 8kw electric insert I use for aluminum. As far as position of the pattern, for my proces I'd say far batter off (near) vertical from the standpoint of packing and practicality. Also for lost foam, you need some depth to the mold or the metal pressure will "float" the sand, especially in denser (than aluminum) alloys, and it does provide more metal head pressure at the bottom of the mold where it is most needed, because that is farthest from the sprue and the coldest metal by the time it gets there. Best, Kelly

  • @Nifilheimur
    @Nifilheimur2 жыл бұрын

    This is just awesome. gives me loads of ideas for parts for my old Harley. What alloy do you cast with? A380 series or?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    I cast primarily with A356 just because it's a great all-around casting alloy, can be heat treated, and since I had/have minimum buys of ingot, practically speaking I needed to choose a single alloy, but no magic in A356. There are plenty of suitable alloys for automotive parts. Best, Kelly

  • @Nifilheimur

    @Nifilheimur

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 Thanks for your reply. One other question if you dont mind. The foam you use, is it some special foam or? Probably a silly question but im really interested in this casting method :D

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nifilheimur Search my channel for a video entitled "Pattern Materials for Lost Foam Casting". The foam and other pattern making materials are discussed there. Best, Kelly

  • @ercinergen677
    @ercinergen677 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Kelly, The videos are great, I like them very much. Can a water cooled exhaust manifold be produced with this method for marine diesel engine ?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @ercinergen677

    @ercinergen677

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Kelly.

  • @mariapulver6733
    @mariapulver6733 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing! What if you'd have given up after the first time?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't give up easily!

  • @paulwest4780
    @paulwest47802 жыл бұрын

    Kelly, I have been watching casting videos for years as well as doing some of my own casting including a go at lost foam. You blow everyone else efforts out of the water. I think one of the things that everyone seems to get wrong is putting the foam in casting sand. I found out, years ago, that dry sand worked a lot better but I stopped there. I think the vibration, the coatings and filling in the seams with wax are things I missed. I was heading down the road of using 3D printing to make split molds and using traditional sand casting. Now, I am in the middle of updating my hotwire rig and breaking my furnace out. One thing I did have a lot of problems with was cold shunts any advice on that front?

  • @paulwest4780

    @paulwest4780

    2 жыл бұрын

    One quick note on my first go at lost foam casting I did find a way around the pregnant paus that happens at the beginning of the pour. I used a stir rod to check my meatal before I poured which made the rod hot. I would often used this to melt a one inch deep hole in the top of the sprue. This eliminated the pregnant pause.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Paul and totally agree on use of dry unbound vs bound sand. Nothing wrong with 3D printed patterns and bound sand, especially for higher volume, but the design freedom of evaporative pattern casting and ease of complex shapes, parting lines, and coring is fantastic. For the cold shut question, what temp are you pouring at, what is the typical wall thickness and max travel distance from a runner of feed system to the extremity of the pattern? Best, Kelly

  • @paulwest4780

    @paulwest4780

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 To be honest those are all factors I did not pay enough attention to. What tempter are you shooting for before poring? I use a propane furnace and have been winging it for melts I think ill buy a temperature gun and see if I cant start controlling for it.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paulwest4780 Most of my parts are 1/4" wall and relatively high surface area/volume. I typically pour A356 at 1400F. Rule of thumb for LF is 100F-150F hotter than conventional open cavity sand casting. Best, Kelly

  • @drifterengines243

    @drifterengines243

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 could you duplicate a aluminum cylinder head casting from a cylinder head that’s allready made?

  • @mikeboudreaux2964
    @mikeboudreaux29642 жыл бұрын

    What's the reason for not using a vent to allow gasses to escape? Is your sprue big enough that you don't really need one? Phenomenal work, I'm amazed and inspired.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vents can't vent in lost foam casting. If you make the vent feature out of foam it's solid until melted and by that time there's no need for a vent because that area of th emold has already filled. I see people attach a soda straw to the pattern thinking it's a vent, but the straw is plugged with closed cell foam until the molten metal front reaches it then it fills with metal so it's no longer a vent then either. In lost foam casting, the entire surface of the mold is the vent, coated with permeable coating, and this controls the rate at which evaporated foam gases escape/vent and the corresponding rate at which the molten metal front advances. Best, Kelly

  • @mikeboudreaux2964

    @mikeboudreaux2964

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 Great, thanks for spelling it out simply. Makes sense. Are there any good books or references you used to learn this?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mikeboudreaux2964 I wish I could. I'm a member of American Foundry Society and about the closest would be "Lost Foam Casting Made simple", which it doesn't. It's 250 pages and by the time I bought it, it didn't do much for me. More than half was devoted to managing beaded materials and pattern molding process which was of little interest to me because it's impractical for low volume and home use. Wasn't much usable practical information on molding, coatings, and casting process control or even pour temps. I've gotten most of my information watching the YT videos of the (Chinese) LF equipment manufacturers and reading research papers which have even less useful info than the AFS book but an occassional nugget. If you search here on YT there is the Lost Foam Council based in EU, but again, not much there except one 4 minute vid. Besides that, it's the school of hard knocks I'm afraid. Best, Kelly

  • @wesaderty
    @wesaderty2 жыл бұрын

    when the metal comes into contact with the styrofoam, does the loose sand undo the structure of the mold? that is, the fact that the sand is not compacted, does it break down and start to occupy the place that is meant to be only made of metal?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, when vibrated, the sand it tightly packed. The pressure from the metal holds the sand in place as the foam patterns evaporates. Best, Kelly

  • @prestonengebretson2920
    @prestonengebretson29202 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful Kelly...What percent shrinkage factor are you using for you 356 alloy?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    1.3% or .013"/inch

  • @prestonengebretson2920

    @prestonengebretson2920

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 Thanks for the reply...I will use that also for my designs...

  • @Timbofr3
    @Timbofr32 жыл бұрын

    I know nothing about casting, but what you have achieved looks pretty impressive to me. Congratulations! I’d be interested to know how much time you spent on designing the pattern, making the pattern, preparing it for casting, preparing the cast, and tidying it up ready for machining. Apart from that really impressive hi from Switzerland

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks J, I dont know. I didn't keep track and of course I did have the pleasure of making that pattern twice. I can tell you this, it took much longer to arrive at the design and dimensional layout than it did to actually fabricate the first pattern, and much less time to make the second pattern than the first 🙂Best, Kelly

  • @umbeatable2770

    @umbeatable2770

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 sir i love your work and i think instead of wax to use your method may i ask plz what kind of coating is that and can i cast somethink out of ferous metal(stainless steel) with it? Thank you

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@umbeatable2770 I have a video entitled "Refractory Coatings for Lost Foam Casting Patterns" on my channels that discusses the coating. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fpibqc2qps6bncY.html The coating I use is for non-ferrous casting. The ferrous casting equivelants use higher refractory alumina oxide or zirconia as the fillers. Best, Kelly

  • @itsverygreen532
    @itsverygreen5322 жыл бұрын

    Hi Kelly, can I give you a tip that would have saved your first attempt? It is related to the filling process. You need to have the vibration turned on throughout the mold fill. The vibration creates a "fluidised layer" about 2 inches deep ... beneath that is the "compacted zone" ... once you have about 6" of sand in the pot, you need to turn in the vibration and start filling the mold. If you fill too much before turning on the vibration you will get areas of the sand that did not get fluidised and flow. The fluidised zone is about 2" deep in small pots like yours, so the fill you put in before turning on the vibration was too deep to effectifely fill in some areas. In commercial production the vibration is applied throughout the fill process. I hope that helps you.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rob, yes indeed. There were 4 changes made for this successful attempt compared to the previous fail. The discussion starts at about the 14 minute mark, but there was better pattern positioning in the mold, I did indeed vibe as I was filling which is a big aid because I'm underpowered in respect to vibratory energy for big molds so vibing while the mold is filling compared to 450lbs of full mold helps a lot in that respect too. I also nearly tripled the vibratory energy with larger turbine vibrators, and perhaps the most significant was the use of fresh mold media. I had been (re)using my mold sand for 2-3 years with most seeing several hundred pours. It was contaminated with organics and consequently, was more difficult to excite and fluidize. By comparison, the new media was a treat. Now the shape of silica sand certainly isn't optimal for vibratory packing but it's so inexpensive, it's thehands down practical choice. Same goes for reconditioning the sand. I could bake the organics out but the energy cost to do so is more than the cost of the sand. It's 10c/lb at the retail stores and $20/ton in bulk. Thanks for the comment and watching. Best, Kelly

  • @billmoran3219
    @billmoran32192 жыл бұрын

    How’s it stand up to welding any imperfections if need be? What does it fit? Sorry haven’t watched other videos.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    It can depend on the alloy, but the 356 I use welds nicely. If you are an accomplished (TIG) welder, you wont think much of casting aluminum alloys compared to wrought alloys, especially if they have been in service with liquids beause the tend to be somewhat porous and hard to get clean. Preheating the area to be welded helps sweat a lot of that stuff out and helps a lot. Best, Kelly

  • @davidgalea6113
    @davidgalea61132 жыл бұрын

    im sure you have already thought about this but could you avoid the intake bolt through the runner by using studs and nuts? either way your skills are impressive..i'm sure every classic car guy would love to be able to do what you do and cast their own parts.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Believe when I say it was the last resort but there was just no way to do since the runers cover the mounting holes. On 335 Series canted valve Ford heads there are 8 mounting holes on each side. Four of them are 3/8-16 at 22.5 degrees, and four are 5/16-18 at 45 degrees. Those mounting holes are at the 22.5 degree angle so the intake still could not be munted without removing the studs. The two central and two outer mounting holes are at 45 degrees (vertical), so the intake can lift on and off without those being removed and studs are used on those. I didnt invent the idea. There are some other exotic Ford intakes that resort to the same method. Best, Kelly

  • @shakeydavesr
    @shakeydavesr2 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned a few times that , aside from the flanges being 1/2" or 3/4" thick, that the runner walls are 1/4" thick. How do you determine that ? I know if you make the core’s x" by x" , is the optimal thickness of the refractory coating 1/4", or whatever you want the wall thickness to be? That’s the only way I could imagine it happening since the inner and outer surfaces are encapsulated in the sand. I have very little experience in sand casting, high school Vo-Tech classes in the 80’s. But I’ve always been interested in the subject for many years, and always study up on things like this, to the extreme for some subjects, even though I’ll never get a working, hands on experience in it. I’ve had a long time "love affair" with the Ford 300" straight 6, but only a few people had ever done much, if anything, about it’s poor head design. A few people, Sherman Sly comes to mind because I recently heard an interview of him on Drag Boss Garage. (I think), He welded together 3 cut sections of cast iron Boss 302 heads to make 1 long cross flow head that whooped some tails and hurt some peoples feelings. WELDING CAST IRON HEADS!!! But anyways, on something like that, how would you account for shrinkage? You mentioned 13% (0.013) for your manifold, would you have to allow more for the size (length, primarily)? Would you take the bore spacing, don’t know the number off the top of my head, but I believe it’s about 4.00". Would you work off of that, 4.00X 6 (# of cylinders) and add .0022 to each bore spacing? I’m sure there is more to it than that, but it’s the kind of crap I’m actually thinking about when my wife says "what are you thinking about? Lol I know it’s a bit off topic and long winded, but I’m curious.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    1/4" wall is just a reliable thickness for sand casting because of typical heat loss to the mold. The flange thicknesses are what they are because of the structural needs of the part otherwise I'd shoot for uniform wall, but given their thickness, it makes them a convenient vehicle to feed the rest of the part. Best, Kelly

  • @larryanderson8049
    @larryanderson80492 жыл бұрын

    Held my breath on the 2nd pour...don't know if it helped.... but it was a good one! What actually happens to the ceramic that coats the foam?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some of the coating falls off when demolding and about 90% falls off when dipped in water. The rest can be blown off with compressed air. Calling it ceramic is a bit generous. It's more like drywall joint compound. It is still water soluable after the pour. I've been calling it refractory coating while others comment on it being ceramic, likening it to shell casting, but the intended purposes are different. In lost foam the coating just preserves the pattern surface finish and serves as a permeable barrier to control the rate at which gases escape into the mold, and you do get some modest insulating value from the mold media, whereas the ceramic in shell cating is the structural mold. Best, Kelly

  • @larryanderson8049

    @larryanderson8049

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 Certainly a beautiful casting....truly amazed at how the relatively fragile and permeable coating can keep the dry sand from collapsing into the burned out foam cavity!

  • @Van-tastic
    @Van-tastic2 жыл бұрын

    Just stumbled onto your channel. Pretty cool what you’re doing! But man it’s really frustrating that you keep skipping the actual work occurring!

  • @gregorywatkins1570
    @gregorywatkins15702 жыл бұрын

    Hey I love your casting you do and I want to do lossy foam but I need to know more like what sand do you use what foam is best to use and what do you use to coat the patterns you make and we’re do I get it... please do a how to do basic video on KZread.. please 😁.... I built furnace both charcoal and gas but my skills need work and I think the lost foam method rocks I want to know more...... please help share your knowledge.....

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those videos already exist. Just subscribe to my channel and look at the following entitled videos. You may find a few more of interest as well. Best, Kelly "Pattern Materials for Lost Foam Casting" "Pattern Construction Methods for Lost Foam Casting" "Refractory Coatings for Lost Foam Casting Patterns" "Reusable Pouring Basin - Lost Foam Casting"

  • @gregorywatkins1570

    @gregorywatkins1570

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh ok great 👍 thank you so much for the reply ps love your setup you created 😁👍

  • @jamesford2942
    @jamesford29422 жыл бұрын

    Nice outcome on this one. How are you going to seal up the valley area of the engine to the outside?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    The bottom side has sealing lands that line up with the valley rails on the block like other intakes. There's also a shelf in the bottom side of the intake to install a splash shield or plate so the underside could be used as vacuum plenum. There;s a boss on the rear of the intake to access it. Best, Kelly

  • @jamesford2942

    @jamesford2942

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 got it, so it uses an intake gasket like an FE engine that is a sheet metal valley pan and gasket together

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesford2942 Just flat gaskets betwen heads and intake and cork and/or silicone on the valley rails. Best, Kelly

  • @farhanchoudhre6962
    @farhanchoudhre69628 ай бұрын

    What material you use for coating. Is it diy or you buy it from market

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    8 ай бұрын

    See this video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fpibqc2qps6bncY.htmlsi=9XkQs0RJDis6RaUI There are many other lost foam related videos if you look through my channel. Best, Kelly

  • @SuperStormWarden
    @SuperStormWarden2 жыл бұрын

    Instead of dumping the sand out would it be better to use a vacuum system so that it can be re-used?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, I do re-use the sand over and over. I just run it through a sieve as I shovel it back into its storage container to remove any refractpory coating that fell off the casting and any sand clumped by the byproducts of decomposed polystyrene. My last batch of sand I used for over three years and ~200 castings before I replaced it. Best, Kelly

  • @stevemazz3121
    @stevemazz31212 ай бұрын

    Is it possible the little deformities are caused by the gas escaping as the form is burning away?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, but rather than the foam, in this case, if that was indeed the cause it's more likely dues to the wax I used to apply fillets. There was a lot of it in this pattern since it was hand made in many pieces and then assembled. These days I CNC the patterns and there are far fewer pieces and the fillets and blends are machined into the foam. Very little of the foam becomes carbon/ash. The vast majority of foam is converted to gas which is expelled through the refractory coating into the mold and the amount o fthis gasis probably comparable to steam created in a conventional green sand mold or other binding system. Best, Kelly

  • @fernandoillescas2343
    @fernandoillescas2343 Жыл бұрын

    How do the lost foam mould was made? How could begin with a 3D printer?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    Жыл бұрын

    It was machined in pieces of extruded Polystyrene and then glued together/assemble. I'm not aware of any printable lost foam pattern media casting method. Other evaporative pattern material are possible but require shell or block investment method with pattern removal by burn-out prior to casting. Best, Kelly

  • @JohnSmith-sf8gj
    @JohnSmith-sf8gj2 жыл бұрын

    Is there a factor of shrink with casting aluminum by this method?

  • @JohnSmith-sf8gj

    @JohnSmith-sf8gj

    2 жыл бұрын

    Never mind, I got my answer in the comments.

  • @bubbazametti2292
    @bubbazametti22922 жыл бұрын

    molten metal + concrete =pop you need a shallow sandbox still just awesome

  • @krisraps
    @krisraps2 жыл бұрын

    Preheat The Mold In Oven Before Casting ???

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why? The foam would melt and unbound mold would collapse. Best, K

  • @LTV_inc
    @LTV_inc2 жыл бұрын

    The bolt’s through the intake runner are nonsense, it take 3 full threads to generate complete bolting force…did you miss that day in dynamics? And as an expert mold designer my opinion is you have too many sharp transitions and occlusions but then again what the hell do I know I only made parts for flying machines………..😆 nice work!

  • @marciomila9264
    @marciomila92642 жыл бұрын

    Fico top

  • @nikoniko3037
    @nikoniko3037 Жыл бұрын

    What kind of sand did you use?..where can it be bought?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    Жыл бұрын

    It's just fine washed and dried silica sand. It can be bought at retail stores. Do not buy play sand that is wet. It can be almost any silica sand as long as it is very dry. Best, Kelly

  • @burnsm2012
    @burnsm2012 Жыл бұрын

    What dip coat do u use, or prefer?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    Жыл бұрын

    Search my channel. There is a video devoted to coatings. Best, Kelly

  • @kipholder8577
    @kipholder85772 жыл бұрын

    making one like this for 5.3 Ls would be awesome

  • @kettervrooomshopfathernson4201
    @kettervrooomshopfathernson42012 жыл бұрын

    would love to make ceramic shell slurry myself, but so far no time :~D maybe better start with foam, haha

  • @markus9333
    @markus93335 ай бұрын

    Can you cast a cylinder head with this method?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes. It's routinely done in commercial industry. When Saturn was making cars, the blocks and heads were lost foam castings. Have alook here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYaLwaanmbKcaLA.htmlsi=kuRwW1ri1mZR2499

  • @TheDbsharp
    @TheDbsharp2 жыл бұрын

    Hey buddy, I reccomend you do not do this on concrete, for safety reasons. That said, fantastic work! I need to find someone who can sand cast prototypes from time to time. I just this week had one to do, and had to redesign it for my cnc mill because I measured my flask and realized it was too big for my little setup. Are you open to work?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    We all need to assess the level of safety and preventitive measures we are are comfortable with but I can assure you for all but large spills, the risk if a steam explosion from aluminum splashs, even pounds of, is about nil. They fan out and freeze so fast you can handle them in a couple minutes. Now if I dropped a full A60, that could be a different story but in that case I'd simply vacate the area and watch from a distance. The other side of this discussion is it's not exactly safe walking on sanded concrete either. If I was pouring iron, I may reconsider. Same for the those that have commented in my other videos about pouring in street shoes. Spats would be a good addition, but I'd rather have shoes I could kicked off quickly than those laced up tight. Either way I'm comfortable with my choices. As far as casting for hire, I'm pretty stacked up with projects and 90% of people don't have a realistic expectation as far as $. Best, Kelly

  • @TheDbsharp

    @TheDbsharp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 good to know! I was told to keep it off the concrete from someone older and wiser than myself, haha. As far as realistic $$ expectations, I feel your pain, I make my living by offering design and prototyping.

  • @mashed-out
    @mashed-out2 жыл бұрын

    What is your engineering degree in?

  • @shadetreemechanicracing22
    @shadetreemechanicracing222 жыл бұрын

    I have been wanting to make an intake that will hold 8 model B Rochester carbs. Very inspiring thanks.

  • @fausmartinez6342
    @fausmartinez63428 ай бұрын

    Puedo usar fomi de molde o unisel cual me recomiendas.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    8 ай бұрын

    Utilizo tablero aislante de espuma de poliestireno comprado en tiendas de construcción y mejoras para el hogar. Best Regards, Kelly

  • @fausmartinez6342

    @fausmartinez6342

    8 ай бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 orale gracias.

  • @curvs4me
    @curvs4me2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely gotta get away from the cylindrical pour boxes. It's convenient for small pieces but once you get bigger parts a box would be close to the ground and easier to pour with more vents.

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's really no such thing as vents in lost foam casting because a vent is not a vent until the foam evaporates. In LF casting the entire mold surface is the vent and the vent rate is controlled by the permeability of the refractory coating, I've tried boxes but they offer no advantage and cylinders are much more rigid containers for unbound sand. There is no cope or drag in LF and unlike conventional open cavity gravity fed casting where bottom gating can be beneficial, the propagation of the metal front in LF casting is controlled by the the rate the foam is evaporated so AFS and Naturally pressurized gating systems are concepts that don't apply to LF.

  • @diobrando2160
    @diobrando21602 жыл бұрын

    Are you making an entire engine?

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    No, just the carbureted induction system. Best, Kelly

  • @roughedge-machineworks
    @roughedge-machineworks2 жыл бұрын

    you make the dipcoat yourself? and out of what?!

  • @kellycoffield533

    @kellycoffield533

    2 жыл бұрын

    The refractory coating seen in the video is a commercial product called Polycap 600 made by REFCOTEC but for aluminum, non-setting drywall joint compound thinned with water to a viscosity suitable for either brushing or dipping works as well. Best, Kelly

  • @roughedge-machineworks

    @roughedge-machineworks

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellycoffield533 thanks after rewatching your vids 10 more times i figured it out and also joined the forum. :)

  • @dee1089
    @dee1089 Жыл бұрын

    i find it amazing tahat you can make this at home. crazy.. i wish i was your neighbor. but you would hate me. lol id be bugging you to make stuff.

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