Almost 5 year old tech and you finally give credit where credit is due. I have this on my 2017 f150 and it's great. For all you "I know how to tow" guys, I tow for a living worth a super duty. But, my F150 has a canopy on it. When backing up a long 100 yard boat ramp with a bass boat trailer, you can't see it. I watch guys try for ten minutes to get down the ramp. It's super easy with this system.

I love how much the trim moved when you hit the start button... shows that quality!

@higg2156

4 жыл бұрын

Collin Godbey good eye I love my ford truck but that is lousy for a vehicle they want roughly 50k-95k for.

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

yep, the whole cabin looks 2005, just more power and more gears, but still 4 mpg towing uphill ...

@heavymetalcreationz711

4 жыл бұрын

I just test drove one, real world... You have to really be heavy handed to get that piece to flex like that. Knowing how excited Andre gets I am certain there was definitely an unnecessary amount of force applied. You literally just have to lightly touch the button for a split second and the thing does the rest. Could the interior use a little love? Yes, but the GMC/Chevy trucks are the same... The Ram isn’t really any better, it just seems to hide its flaws a little better that Ford and GM, that way you as a consumer “feel” like you are getting upscale, when really you’re getting a facade. I imagine with the amount of money Ford, GM, and Fiat spend on developing these trucks to handle the workload they do doesn’t leave much margin for real life ritzy interiors. If any of these trucks had fancier interiors with fancier materials you’d pay $120k for a Big Horn, King Ranch or Denali.

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

@Ptguy0618 it's the thing you have to touch every time you use the truck ... and your opinion is "other vehicles are crap, it's okay that this $60K Ford is crap, too" ... ?

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

@Ptguy0618 you couldn't find a panel that flexes on a Bentley, Rolls ... maybe an Aston ... you could find a piece that falls of a McLaren or a Land Rover ... : ) But crap quality does justify crap quality ... and I'm no shill for Fiat, but check the cabin of the 2019 new RAM, it wouldn't be silly to compare it to a luxury car in terms of design and quality. I had to rent one recently and aside from crap mpg, it really had me looking at my old Ford and thinking about what I get next being a year old 2020 RAM 1500 diesel ... then again all the carmakers are offering huge discounting on new models because they're all bleeding money.

Nice Toby Keith reference “look ma no hand. I love this America ride”

Andre, you are the TFLTruck-King! As always, an entertaining and informative video.

All this tech just makes life safer, doesn’t mean someone doesn’t know how to tow

@buckhorncortez

4 жыл бұрын

The point most of the self-proclaimed, trailer "he-men" seem to miss.

@millertime8835

4 жыл бұрын

But plenty of"dont know hows" will jump on this band wagon and a whole new generation of people reliant on tech to do something we all learned to do the way it's been done since there were trailers. There goes another skill.

@TexasOverlander

4 жыл бұрын

Millertime possibly, the automotive and leisure RV/Travel Trailer industry are trying everything they can to attract young buyers. It’s more of a problem with the RV industry as the baby boomers age and aren’t the largest buying segment anymore. I’ve notice a lot more lightweight travel trailers on the lots lately with low prices and advertised with “can tow with SUV”

@dedalliance1

4 жыл бұрын

The cameras are fine for safety, but the backup assist is kinda dumb and unnecessary.

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

how is it safer? you mean safer than backing up dangerously? this is not safer than having a spotter and a pair of $15 walkie talkies ... not safer than a spotter on a video call to the driver using the phone camera ... and this stuff doesn't work in darkness or rain, the screen image is low resolution and doesn't show details ... there's not even distance of obstacle sensor on the back ... not even a remotely activated backup warning beeper ... this stuff is LESS SAFE and creates a false sense of safety (no overhead clearance view ... look at most RV damage ... it's the swing angle contact or the overhead obstruction contract ...) not safer

I just wish trucks weren't so expensive. And in my area a used truck 10 years old with 100k-150k miles is still $20,000-$30,000.. it's getting ridiculous.

@stevegreene4880

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, here in the northern Rockies a used big 3 diesel 5 years old or less with 100k miles is still going for $40k.

When backing up the easiest way to not get mixed up is start with your at the bottom of the wheel. With that you don’t even need the backup assist. Did anyone else see when he pushed the start button the trim piece flexed

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

cabin looks cheap and dated I was taught "left hand up, trailer goes left"

@GandolphTheGreyBeard

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Growing up in midwestern farmland, the rule was: odd number of trailers - hand at the bottom of the wheel. Even number, hand at the top of the wheel.

Great tech additions - looking for more.

I'd say its excellent for safety reasons..they would be nice to have on a huge truck like that with all those features...Thanks again Andre.

@tortue71

4 жыл бұрын

It's not safe actually. people will only look in their camera , have some blinspots and forget their front end. Lots of scratched front bumper incoming

That is the road up to Yarnell AZ That's so cool to see you guys in my neck of the woods

All the tech is great until it goes out in the future. Imagine the bill when everything stops working.

@FlyingSparks12336

4 жыл бұрын

Beetlejuice as soon as it’s out of warranty trade it in

@kamotekamote3002

4 жыл бұрын

I'd buy an extended warranty lol

@dochollywood1921

4 жыл бұрын

First thing to go out is probably the wiring or fuses connected to the computer. Quick google and you can find those for real cheap, so yeah I can imagine the price to fix it. Only is crappy if you go through the dealer.

@joeyscleaninglady2877

4 жыл бұрын

why are so many cones flipped over did the system fail?

@vendediesel

3 жыл бұрын

Great stuff but I've never been fond of electronic motors hooked to my throttle, steering and brakes.

The camera on back of the 5th wheel is well worth having. As far as the "Pro" backup assist, aka " the knob" goes, it requires a learning curve just like normal backing does, only steeper.

all this tech is so amazing and so helpful

Tech is fine until it doesn’t work and the person behind the wheel has no idea how to back up a trailer using the wheel and mirrors 😪

@smrtguy77777

4 жыл бұрын

Anthony Archer Don’t get me wrong, I love new technology like this but when kids nowadays have no idea what a manual transmission is, a part of humanity is lost...

@claudeervin5518

4 жыл бұрын

@@smrtguy77777 I agree 100%. Tech is good up to an extent. That ProTrailer is a cool feature, but anybody should be able to back up a trailer without a knob. And anyone should be able to turn a key instead of push button. Popular feature on the latter, but if push button breaks, then what? Lol.

@LukaszPhotography

4 жыл бұрын

@@anthonyarcher7268 I have first generation of the system in a 2016 model year. That system relies on a sticker that you would attach to an a-frame of the trailer. If the computer can't recognize it for some reason (during rain, bad light reflection, etc) you will have to back it up manually. From my personal experience the tech is good, bu you better be ready when it fails. It looks like Ford has improved the system and it has a dedicated 12-pin connector, but still what if that cable goes bad? When it comes to cameras I think that having one on the back of the trailer is most useful.

@kevinburroughs6583

4 жыл бұрын

@@claudeervin5518 totally agree. There is a satisfaction of turning a key and having an engine roar to life. Especially a vs diesel or gas.

@Weak_juan

4 жыл бұрын

Why do they have the word "pro" infront of trailer assist? Are they implying that the pros need this?

This back-up technology is like the park assist that Ford pioneered for parking cars, that other manufacturers imitated later. Its great!

@jminaya90

4 жыл бұрын

If you don't know how to park a car... You need to go back to the driving school until you know how to do it... The same back-in up a trailer

Great review. That engine brake and trans really makes it easy to go down or climb a hill. The 6.7 is an amazing power monster.

We bought a 2019 F350 limited, and absolutely love it, it's not a 10 speed (wish it was) but still love it!!

Another GREAT video! The Ford rep. stated that the lower first gear helps to get heavier loads moving. He missed what's even more important. The 10 speed's first gear offers 16% more torque (4.61 vs. 3.97). That's fine. HOWEVER, the 10 speed's reverse offers a whopping 50% more torque. (4.69 vs. 3.128). If you're backing even a relatively light (~4,000 lbs) load uphill, trust me, you will appreciate a lower reverse. With my 6 speed, I find it unpleasant that such a powerful engine has to keep the RPM up in order to sufficiently engage the torque converter just because reverse gear ratio is so tall as to be half way between the 6 speed's 1st and 2nd gear. What were they thinking? Was anyone really planning to go 40mph - BACKWARDS?

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

that's why you want a 4x4 low range with manual diff locks (released) not an automatic center diff lock, etc. I really didn't see anything about this truck, its engine or trans that shows great progress in the last 15 years ... still horrible mpg, wildly expensive, hideous operating and service costs ... still rides on kidney bruising leaf springs and steers like a boat

@gregparrott

4 жыл бұрын

@@brightymcbrightface Your reply is a bit confusing: 1) The Ford has a 4x4 low range. (Still, reverse should have a lower gear ratio) 2) The Ford offers a locking rear differential in their FX4 package. The front wheels also have a hub lock knob. However, unlike the Ram 'PowerWagon', Ford does not offer a locking front differential (Ford should) 3) Both the horsepower and torque a VASTLY improved over the last 15 years - PERIOD. 4) My 2017 F-350, 6.7 Diesel, 4x4, crew cab, long bed achieved 21.0 MPG on a 250+ mile loop, which included a mountainous 7000 foot ascent/descent. It also achieved 20.0 MPG on a 900 mile trip That is pretty frickin' awesome. Note1: Both were with the truck unladen and averaging ~60MPH Note2: At a sustained 85mph cruise in Utah (partially laden), mileage dropped into the low 14's - proof that driving a huge brick at speed hurts. 5) I've yet to experience service costs, but I bought an extended warranty should I need it. It also covers a dozen routine service (oil change, etc.) over a 6 year period. 6) I've owned 3/4 ton Chevy pickups since ~1972. In relative terms, this truck is very comfortable and quiet, and I only have the XLT trim with no options. As I can attest from a '69 C20, while coil springs would be more comfortable, they don't handle loads as well. I'll gladly stick with leafs. 7) Steering - you got me there. The biggest fault with it is the turn radius inherent in a 176" wheelbase, compounded by the wheels not being able to turn at as sharp an angle as Chevys. Consequently, it turns like a school bus, and I have to drive it that way

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregparrott for some reason your reply is truncated in youtube, but showed up as a notification ... technology ... anywho ... I don't disagree with your points although I would clarify that I'm not knocking the Ford or advocating GM or RAM (they each have their strengths and weaknesses ... I sort of wish I could put a good old Cummins in a new RAM for the cabin and air bag suspension if I just really had to spend $60-80K on a tow vehicle ... : ) Gregory Parrott 11 minutes ago @Brighty McBrightface Your reply is a bit confusing: 1) The Ford has a 4x4 low range. (Still, reverse should have a lower gear ratio) right, but the electronics insist upon locking the center diff which causes axle binding when you want full steering lock back-n-fill (all of my points boil down to "tow vehicles are half baked today because they don't have simple design/function/utility that we've known about since last century.) 2) The Ford offers a locking rear differential in their FX4 package. The front wheels also have a hub lock knob. However, unlike the Ram 'PowerWagon', Ford does not offer a locking front differential (Ford should) The Power Wagon is awesome but showing its age ... also significantly less haul and tow capability (for no apparent reason, since the Ford Tremor is set up for off-road but still has F350 specs. 3) Both the horsepower and torque a VASTLY improved over the last 15 years - PERIOD. True, but to what advantage? Higher operating and service costs, weaknesses in the emissions gear and maybe 10 seconds quicker accelerating up an on-ramp 4) My 2017 F-350, 6.7 Diesel, 4x4, crew cab, long bed achieved 21.0 MPG on a 250+ mile loop, which included a mountainous 7000 foot ascent/descent. It also achieved 20.0 MPG on a 900 mile trip That is pretty frickin' awesome. Note1: Both were with the truck unladen and averaging ~60MPH Note2: At a sustained 85mph cruise in Utah (partially laden), mileage dropped into the low 14's - proof that driving a huge brick at speed hurts. ... my old 400hp diesel gets 15 mpg towing (never seen 20 mpg except downhill ... : ) with a 44 gallon tank, I've got a full day of driving and very tired ... seat ... by the time I refuel ... and the spare $50K in my pocket negates any mpg operating cost advantage. 5) I've yet to experience service costs, but I bought an extended warranty should I need it. It also covers a dozen routine service (oil change, etc.) over a 6 year period. Just wait till the EGR fails or the turbo starts to coke up and whine and lag or the high pressure fuel pump quits, etc. Diesel maintenance is key to durability and reliability, but the known defects in modern (DEF) diesels brings known problems (just google "bullet proof" diesel ... : ) 6) I've owned 3/4 ton Chevy pickups since ~1972. In relative terms, this truck is very comfortable and quiet, and I only have the XLT trim with no options. As I can attest from a '69 C20, while coil springs would be more comfortable, they don't handle loads as well. I'll gladly stick with leafs. Coils and airbags with decent suspension links will haul and tow like wagon springs and ride comfortably without carrying 5 bags of cement in the bed just so the rear doesn't dance around under brakes or a little standing water. 7) Steering - you got me there. The biggest fault with it is the turn radius inherent in a 176" wheelbase, compounded by the wheels not being able to turn at as sharp an angle as Chevys. Consequently, it turns like a school bus, and I have to drive it that way When I winch someone back on the trail, it's usually a turning radius problem that leads them to put a tire where they wouldn't if they could have made a sharper turn or better three-point turn. Again, Ford can do this "right" but for some reason they choose not to (for example the E350 has great axle articulation and steering angle, but the F350 doesn't ... I guess it's a matter of parts and costs and load ratings etc. but it can be done, they just choose to do a half assed job.) I can't quite believe that 10 years ago GM had four wheel steering and hybrid full size vehicles and now they're just getting around to a diesel in a suburban ... if that burb had 4WS and hybrid, I'd be willing to pay $80K and drive the thing 200K miles and keep it ten years. But these 2020 models from Ford and GM aren't much improved over your 2017 ... at least RAM has a cabin that looks and feels like a luxury $50K vehicle ... but still not good mpg, not a plug-in hybrid, not the best diesels (anymore) and the GM "small" diesel is 1mpg better and accelerates a lot quicker in the TFL comparison ... all three are doing a half-assed job but asking top dollar. No wonder RAM is selling better than GM, but equally well no wonder they're all losing sales in everything except pickups and struggling for business.

@gregparrott

4 жыл бұрын

@@brightymcbrightface I recently clicked on KZread's notification stating that it is transitioning to a newer format. I 'OK'd the transition to occur. I've since seen a few bugs. I guess what you encountered is another one. The locking center diff. is an interesting issue. I have an AWD car with an open center diff. (i.e. transfer case) and open front & rear differentials - It absolutely sucks. I've determined that its 'AWD' designation actually stands for 'Any Wheel Drive', because if ANY wheel loses traction, you're not going anywhere. Given that experience, having a locked center diff is superior. Ideally, one might offer selectable 'Open/Locked', and/or as with some aftermarket transfer cases, allow you to also select RWD, FWD, 4Wd. I've seen a lot of comments about DEF problems. Admittedly though, I know nothing about the specific issues. Is DEF fluid injected PRIOR to the air entering the turbo? Or, is it injected downstream of the turbo, in which case it should not contribute to coking. TFL has a video in which they state that the Tremor actually has somewhat lower specs than the F-350 The E350 is 2wd, while the F350 is 4wd. While I agree the F350 should cut better steering angles, I believe that CV joint wear and loading at high steering angles was a factor in them choosing to limit steering angles. You mention 15mpg towing. I ask - with how much weight? I can get that if I keep the trailer weight down to ~5k pounds and it is not a tall, enclosed cargo container. With the exception of Ram, I believe airbags are only offered as an aftermarket installation (a pity, as it should be a factory installed option) I've ordered Airlift's 5000 lb kit. GM's 4 wheel steering (called 'Quadrasteer') was really trick. I have to assume that problems and/or poor customer demand caused it to have a short life (2002 through 2005) Ford's new 7.3 Gas engine may wind up being the pragmatic alternative to Diesels - lower cost premium, lower maintenance costs, and weight savings that result in improved payload capacities. Yes, these trucks are monstrously expensive. But all vehicle costs have skyrocketed. A '67 SS Camaro originally cost about $3000. A performance model Camaro today costs well over 10X that. If you elect to buy the high end model, it costs more than 20X. The moral is to save $$$$, keep what you have as long as possible.

@Thirty-OughtSick

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2wd low kit for my Ram 2500 for backing

Love the new Ford lineup

Love the cameras the back up assist I’d never use. I can see how it would help someone though . But I’m use to backing semi’s with 53 foot trailers so not a big deal

Pro trailer back up assist is for newbies. I’ll just take the camera for the back of the trailer, that way I can truly backup by myself, I like doing things alone.

@Prillexprex

3 жыл бұрын

maybe

this is realy nice.. i like the 2020 Ford Super duty.

I had to laugh when he pressed the start button ! looked like the plastic panel was going to fall off.

When backing up a trailer full of horses I'll take all of the tech assists I can get to keep my guys safe.

@HuevoDuro702

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@dedalliance1

4 жыл бұрын

What damage are you going to do to your horse in a trailer? Backing into something isn't going to hurt the horses at all.

@espeterson522

3 жыл бұрын

The mirrors and cameras are more than sufficient. And as a bonus, the mirrors don't fail when there's a bug in the electronics...

Personally like the old school way of backing up a trailer, considering I drive a 2002 Tundra and have learned to use my mirrors and look behind me

@buckhorncortez

4 жыл бұрын

Well...that's because you're a he-man, hero in your own mind...

@rognio3

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, as someone who regularly tows, I can't see myself ever using this. It's one of those 'gimick' features imo. Or maybe it's nice for someone who has never pulled a trailer.

@dedalliance1

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair backing up whatever a 2002 tundra can pull is not really that hard.

@ulysses_gonzalez8840

4 жыл бұрын

@@dedalliance1 about 10,000 pounds on a farm

@dedalliance1

4 жыл бұрын

@@ulysses_gonzalez8840 That's scary for such a small truck, but just on a farm I'm sure it's fine.

Gotta love this American ride

Just give the trophy already!!

Great review, now if I can get it setup in my new 2022 F-350, hopefully it will make backing my 30' 5th wheel into a 10' wide driveway at my house much easier.

High tech is good when it works.

Great review as always. The technology is always great not just to come in handy when needed but most importantly for safety. Yours, your family's, and others around you. We all know a few who would rather stick with having nothing at all. Them them I say...you need to go back in time to riding a horse...I mean if you really are stuck back in time...might as well go further back and accept the original mode of transportation. How badass is that? Lol

I can't believe so many people rag on this technology and the people that use it. I have been backing up trailers for 50 years starting with the farm tractor (Ford 8N) and hay trailers at age 8. I know how it is done, but I use the trailer assist in my 2020 F250 with the 7.3 gasser about half the time. It adds some convenience particularly once you have the trailer pointed in the direction you want, just let go of the knob and the truck follows the trailer. I have the Ultimate camera package and I think it is great too. As far as cost, you can get a decently equipped F250 for a lot less than the trucks being demonstrated. It got mine for $44k. I don't need leather, power seats(mine gets set once and never moves), and all the other high end stuff. If you don't feel like you want it then don't get a package that has it. The choice is yours.

I bought a trailer like that about a year ago. I live about 6 miles from the dealership, before towing that huge trailer the longest trailer I towed was a 16 ft so I had no experience towing something that long, but I got it home in one piece, and I backed it up into my trailer parking spot on the first try. the next time I took it out, I backed the truck and hooked it up by myself, I had no issues, and I did not used the back up assist, maybe I'll try it next time. it is scary the first time you tow something that large, but once you drive with it for a little bit you get more and more comfortable.

I would really appreciate a video explaining the pros and cons of gooseneck and fifth wheel

5:05 If I want my trailer to go to the left when turning left will I get a dolly trailer. If you can't reverse that then you shouldn't drive it at all.

@desertdieselgang7985

4 жыл бұрын

Wuxter that trailer backup crap seams harder to use than a steering wheel I never use it unless I need to backup straight for a long time then it’s amazing get straight let go and it holds perfect

I've got a 2020 7.3 coming to me on Wednesday the only reason it has the backup assist is because that's the truck I wanted with extras I didn't care about.. all I wanted was the 4:30 gears and a bed camera with a 7.3 to avoid maintenance costs of a diesel.

We've ordered our 2022 F-350 DRW XLT. Supposed to be built in February. I like the camera system, but I prefer to be in charge of the braking, and backing. We'll be pulling a 40 foot 5th wheel, and I don't trust a computer to brake from me with out jack knifing.

Look at that Ford squatting

@richardljones515

4 жыл бұрын

Still number one in sale by at least 250K more trucks sold!!😀

@tumbleweedking5668

4 жыл бұрын

@@richardljones515 Stocks are in the tank not a profitable company. wait till Bernie gets the price of fuel where he wants it. be bankrupt in a year.

I like the Hi-Tech!

Great technology for non-drivers who shouldn’t be on a public roads with the trailers

@buckhorncortez

4 жыл бұрын

What a ridiculous comment. By definition, if you're a "non-driver" you don't have a driver's license and you're NOT DRIVING. So how could you possibly affect anyone by not driving?

@duraflexllc4860

4 жыл бұрын

Buckhorn Cortez maybe it’s a little bit too early for you have another coffee

@vendediesel

3 жыл бұрын

Or don't have a spotter with you at night.

@randal3122

3 жыл бұрын

i thought the same thing about backup cameras instead of your right arm over the passenger seat. i figured it wouldnt use it. i dont an older work truck the other day and was reminded about the old way. i have gotten so used to the backup camera that it felt weird not having it

Wow

I’m curious to how a bigger tire and wheel set up that weighs a lot more than stock tire and wheel will affect the trailer back up assist.

Great video with a lot of info! Regarding gadgets I have a f150 now and use the back up camera and the hitch assist. Have not used the back up assist I only hauling a 16' cargo trailer however with a long trailer I would probably use it until I get comfortable doing it on my own. Also I am looking at the same length and weight of trailer in the video (Reflection) weighing 12k unlaiden. Wondering if anyone would reccomend what truck in the ford series should I consider going with, the 7.3 250 gasser, f250 diesel or am I better off with a 350 diesel? Thank You.

The knob makes sense in a half ton where people may be towing a. Little trailer for the first time ever and need help. But on a HD it seems silly because you wouldn’t buy that truck to tow if you didn’t know how to back a trailer

I'm a believer that if you need a "special" steering wheel to back up a trailer, you shouldn't be pulling a trailer. Especially in a heavy duty.

@rognio3

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've thought this system was silly for a while. But the idea of someone towing a 30-40 foot fifth wheel wanting/needing that little knob is pretty scary.

@johnbradley2016

4 жыл бұрын

Im a firm believer in i can do anything and buy anything i want with my own money

@shanet7511

4 жыл бұрын

It's for the boomers who can't turn their head

@joeyscleaninglady2877

4 жыл бұрын

lol the amount of time it took could have done it manually way quicker

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

right. probably good to take a boat straight down the lane on a multi-lane ramp, but if you tow a heavy trailer, you better learn "right hand down, left hand down" pretty quick or you're going to paying for a lot of dent and scrape repairs.

High tech with a price to match lol great vid

Those quameras are nice

Nice video. But i wish this system worked on my 2020 f250 and Airstream trailer. Watched tons of videos and even contacted Ford but we were not able to resolve the problem with the sticker. I think new 150's come with a mechanical setup vs the sticker.

Andre - great video. You should do a video directly comparing the “towing tech” of the 3 major manufacturers - it is hard to compare prior to making a purchase. Keep up the good work.

can you make the trailer camera work all the time as an observation camera? or only during reverse. Example. with my current trailer, my wireless camera connects to a monitor in my cab and I see what is happening at all times while I tow. I can see if anyone is in my lane for lane changing.

Tech is good for those who are already educated and experienced. The driver still needs to drive the truck. The truck shouldn't drive the driver. Although that is probably coming next. And tech is good until it needs to be fixed. Andre ask the engineers on all brands, how many miles before the diesel particulate filter needs to be replaced on the diesel engine model, and how spendy it is. Good show Andre. Thank you.

Having a good camera on the rear is 90 percent of safe backing. Personally I am experienced at backing and don't want an expensive option to do do it for me. Now, if that thing can back it at night, I would gladly take it. But from what I saw, you still need camera video to use it, and that's not going to be much good at night. The diesels are already over-tec'd with all the DEF junk. I am still liking my older diesel with no cats, dpf,def, etc. It's easy enuf to update older trucks with NAV, CAMERAS, BT, now so a lot of those are not needed OE.

Nice!! Everything for the pro and novice.... :-)

Andre: Great video. it always amazes me the tech. What shockes me is the price of this tech. Id hate to write the check for the payments on $90,000 knowing it just a ford. Not gold plated and in 36,000 miles ill have no warranty left and many many years left to pay.

So now we have "of corse" man #2

I have an Airstream and I can’t get the Backup Assist to work with the stickers. Can I use the yaw sensor that’s intended for a 5th wheel on a conventional trailer?

So they use a little knob and cameras instead of the large mirrors and big wheel right in front of you?

Got a question I can’t seem to find an answer to. After setup, when you’re getting ready to use it, do you have to be straight when you activate it? Often I don’t start backing from a completely straight position and I don’t know if the PTBA gets confused when it detects the sticker if I’m not straight.

Look ma, I'm in debt.

@calebb3703

3 жыл бұрын

Hush broke ass

So with this set up would you stop at weight stations in interstate? Any need for CDL license for 1 ton?

noticeable wobble in the panel when start button is pressed

Seems to me that it’s a lot more that can go wrong with all that technology. But it seems to be what everyone wants.

How are you getting the RV backup camera on the stock screen?

Does anyone know where I can buy the YAW rate sensor in this video (3:09)? It’s not on Ford’s accessories website and my local Ford dealer can’t find the part either.

The title is hilarious

To update my post from 3 months ago. She's built, just waiting for a transporter to pick it up and bring it to my dealer. 2022 XLT CC 4x2 dully diesel.

So, is this exhaust-brake the same as, or similar to the Jake Brake found on many tractor trucks?

@daltonbrink9924

2 жыл бұрын

No. Not even close. An exhaust brake is nothing more than a butterfly valve in the exhaust pipe. A true engine brake lifts the exhaust valves at the top of the compression stroke to release the air in the cylinder. This makes the piston pull a vacuum during the power stroke, slowing the engine down, and there by slowing the truck down.

You can only tell the difference between SRW and DRW when there's headwind when towing that trailer. 4 tires on the ground in the rear will always be more stable.

All of those features are cool but top of the line trucks nearing the price of my first house is a little steep. Would be interesting for you to give an idea with typical 10% to 20% down on normal loan terms what average payments would run.

Had an F-150 with backup assist. It couldn’t recover from a near jack knife, required for California beach camping. Could be nice for backing a boat down a boat launch. I really wanted to like this. I would never use it now. Bought a 2020 F-250 and it has a defective back up camera. Dealer tells me a lot a of 2020 ford backup cameras are failing. Replacements are on back order. I think ford has some R&D yet to do.

Cool stuff. Yes, there are a lot of NAY sayers that don't like technology/assist. tech. Or the cameras. Along with a lot of things that make life a LOT easier. Learning how to handle things w/out all the gadgets is fine. But there is nothing wrong with enjoying the conveniences available to us. Those that gripe about it on here .. what are you doing on a computer? ;)

Wow! It’s almost like a small steering wheel! You turn it while backing up and check in the mirror to make sure your going where you want it!!! That’s amazing!!!!!!! So useful!!! This will be so much easier than turning that big cumbersome steering wheel!!!!!!!! 🤦‍♂️

If I sold my house I'd still have to take a loan out to buy one of those trucks. I know they have a lot of tech but trucks are really just going to crazy with the prices. Also if u need trailer back up assist you shouldn't be hauling a trailer.

On the 2020's, does the fifth wheel pkg come standard on some trim levels on the F-450? The reason I ask is, that I've seen several new F-450 Lariat Ultimate trucks, and they have the factory fifth wheel/gooseneck hitch in them, but nothing is listed on the window sticker as having that option. I was just wandering if certain trim pkgs, if it came as standard non mentioned equipment?

@aaronbritt2025

4 жыл бұрын

The prep package is technically an option on the 250 and 350, but pretty much every dealer specs it since it's only about $700. It's standard on the 450.

@stuartmassengale3955

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaronbritt2025 that's what I was thinking. Thank you!

The trailer backup assist is cool but I’d never use it like 90% of the crap trucks have today. I need diesel, exhaust brake and 4x4 with AC and SXM radio and that’s pretty much it. My 2018 Ram Tradesman Cummins has crap I don’t use and it’s fairly basic. Like backup camera. Never use it. Parking sensors. Leave those turned off.

to many camera's. I want to hear the guy that says I can't do it. My camera went out. hahahahaha

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

or rain or darkness ... and that little screen doesn't show enough detail ... and no overhead clearance view to know when you're about to hit an awning or a tree branch (or a bridge...) the best solution I've found is a remote view of a gopro on a tripod or have a spotter on a video call so you can talk to them and they can point their phone camera so you can see exactly what's happening ... just the back-and-forth to relieve twist on the trailer tires once you're in your spot, with a phone on a video call and the camera pointing right at the tire walls, you can see right when the sidewall isn't twisted and bingo, the rest of unhitching and going up on leveling jacks is that much easier.

@claudeervin5518

4 жыл бұрын

IKR!!!

Ford's got it down pat.

I like the camera view but, I've driven semi's for 21+ years so the backup assist isn't for me. I just wish i could get all of the camera's without packaging them with the backup assist.

The space that you backed into looks a lot bigger than 99% of the campground spaces that I’ve backed into. So how does it work on a tight space.

A great video that explains a lot and has a ton of info. The payload capacity that you quoted for this truck was 4,189 lbs. However I just got my new 2021 F-350 diesel crew cab 4x4 with 6ft 9inch bed. I have an 11,500 lbs. GVWR. My weight sticker for cargo carrying capacity and tire info says I only have 3,481 lbs. payload capacity. I contacted the dealer where I ordered it (for my 40 ft fifth wheel RV) and they said it was absolutely wrong and we both contacted Ford and the truck specialist agreed and said the GVWR sticker is correct at 11,500 lbs, but they made a mistake on the payload capacity sticker! It should be 4260 lbs payload capacity! They admitted it but after over a week of back and forth with Ford, the result was they won't correct it and send me a new correct sticker! If there is anyone that you can put me in touch with to help, please respond asap. I can't pull my fifth wheel with this sticker. I know this is usual but I am at the end of my rope. If anyone has any ideas please let me know with a comment or reply asap.

@leolopez9426

2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered an F-350 6.7 CCLB SRW Lariat pretty much loaded after extensive research regarding payload capacity. It eventually became very clear to me how to order to truck for maximum payload in a loaded super duty. You MUST order a long bed (not what I wanted) and do not select one of the GVWR package options available, i.e. 10,000 lb, 11,500 lb, etc. because those are often derated options. An F-350 Short bed SRW will have a maximum GVWR of 11,500 lbs regardless, but the long bed will come with a GVWR of 12,400 lbs. unless you order the 10,000 or 11,500 lb GVWR derated package option. Ford will not send different payload door stickers once a derated package has been assigned to the VIN. Honestly, Ford could do customers a huge service by tabulating expected payload rating as you chose options while building and order. They could also do a better job of eliminating all the confusion around payload questions. No reason someone should not know what the payload sticker will say (or close to it) when a custom order is placed. At this point, it is a near mystery. All I know is that my 12,400 GVWR F-350 SRW truck order should have a payload somewhere between 3,800 and 4,100 lbs as configured. An XL version of the same truck would be around 4,600 lbs without a 5th wheel prep on it from factory.

Does it come with the Factory mechanic/rep to help you out 🧐

@nydieselinfl

4 жыл бұрын

This isn't a GM. If it was, since the workers like to strike and have nothing else better to do, I'm sure they can fix the never ending GM issues....

My camping trip would be over by the time I would figure out the camera system!

Just an FYI...that backup system doesn’t work if your trailer is more then 39 feet long. Also, you want the camera to display on your console screen like that you need the Ford OEM camera for the trailer and that requires you to run a wire from the camera all the way to the truck.

@aaronbritt2025

4 жыл бұрын

The newer travel trailers are pre-wired with the 12-pin connector. The camera's not wireless.

3:46 jeez only 147 miles on a full tank

@aaronbritt2025

4 жыл бұрын

They've been pulling 12k Lbs trailers up a 5% grade all day.

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

I assume that's because it had been towing that rig up and down that hill and hadn't done normal miles, but yeah ... that is a 40 or 50 gallon thank sucking 3 or 4 mpg ... maybe a 30 gallon tank at 5mpg ... that's an expensive weekend to tow the $100K RV trailer behind the $100K pickup ...

@aaronbritt2025

4 жыл бұрын

@@brightymcbrightface you think that's expensive... Fill the 200 gallon tank of a twin inboard boat after towing it to the lake.

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

@@aaronbritt2025 yep! rule number one: don't buy fuel at the dock! (one reason to have a 3500 ... a 100 gallon fuel bladder in the bed with a costco card in the glovebox ... : )

@aaronbritt2025

4 жыл бұрын

@@brightymcbrightface I had to refuel at the dock once... $5+ per gallon. It was $2.19 on shore.

If you need this trailer pro backup system you shouldn’t be towing a trailer. My F150 has it I’ve never used it

@jasonlarsen3515

4 жыл бұрын

You must please so many woman.

@buckhorncortez

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah...well, you can always tell the people who are a legend in their own mind...

@jasonlarsen3515

4 жыл бұрын

Xxplicit says guy using a computer to talk shit......

@HuevoDuro702

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonlarsen3515 you got him

@aaronbritt2025

4 жыл бұрын

I've got a CDL, but when I get my travel trailer, I'll probably use it. Why not? I'm comfortable just knowing that if it fails, I won't be stuck.

What about a difficult tight spot to back into?

High tech equipment is great for safety, but man for that $80k price tag you could buy several low mileage 7.3 Powerstroke trucks in excellent condition and never have to worry about emissions issues or extremely expensive repairs.

@buckhorncortez

4 жыл бұрын

Then that's what you should do. Me? I don't want to screw around with a 20+ year old truck and all of the systems that need attention because of age. Not to mention deterioration of the interior, trim, etc.

@zackzander425

4 жыл бұрын

There is a price to not be laying on your back in the driveway every Saturday. I just spent all afternoon yesterday putting in a new exhaust back pressure sensor on my 07 F-350. I might just bite the bullet in a year or two on a new one. Want to see how that new transmission proves itself.

@Pilot545

4 жыл бұрын

Buckhorn Cortez Amen! And unless you go 10+ years old, I’m thinking you’ll be lucky to find 2 Super Duty trucks with the 6.7 diesel for $80k. Definitely not “several.”

@neilmurphy845

4 жыл бұрын

Ya I've seen them on your channel they seem to be excellent engines

@shanet7511

4 жыл бұрын

Just wait until the pos 4 speed automatic hooked up to the 7.3 powerstroke goes out at maybe 100k miles of heavy use, thatll out you back several thousand alone. It's like comparing a 2000 Toyota Corolla to a brand new one, of course you could get 4-6 older Corollas in good shape for the price of one brand new one, but theirs a huge difference in what you're getting, every single part of the vehicle has improved

You should still learn how to do it without. And use some of this tech to help you or significant other to be a driver.

@davidc1961utube

4 жыл бұрын

Laszlo Vass but the reason I can afford a new truck with all this tech is that I do not have a significant other...

It’s funny how the manufacturers seem to think their customers are incompetent idiots. I for one have no use for any of these devices that do nothing but drive the price of the vehicle into robbery territory. Since you can no longer sit down and actually check boxes with the options you want you are relegated to this junk if you want more than crank windows, vinyl seats and rubble floor mats . If you keep the vehicle out of warranty you will certainly have to fix this nonsense and of course you will once again get robbed since the dealership will likely be the only shop in town that will touch this junk. I can backup a trailer and tow all by myself and have been for 40 years. .

Nice!!!

"Hill hold" No more heel toe the brake throttle on a manual transmission? Technology makes for great obsolescence.

@neilmurphy845

4 жыл бұрын

Ya that technology is brilliant if you have a manual doesn't really matter if you have an auto

@guyod1

4 жыл бұрын

Hill hold could get you in trouble once you become complacent with it. It gets turned off or you get in a truck without it and you roll back into someone.

The tech is a good thing in most cases, but it's also got to be the highest margin item on the truck. Ford just loves to bend you over for every little upgrade. If you can avoid ticking every box you can get a decent truck at a good price. $10,000 for the diesel really seems like Ford just taking the piss, though.

@supadoopa926

4 жыл бұрын

GM and Ram both charge almost $10,000 for their diesel engine as well. That's just where the market is.

@camberwellcarrot420

4 жыл бұрын

@@supadoopa926 I suppose that's an opportunity for some additional competitors in the market then. The big three seem to be operating like an oligopoly, at least in the light truck market. They're clearly happy with that because trucks are highly profitable so they don't compete on price. Toyota and Nissan haven't really pushed them. Maybe the Koreans could.

@aaronbritt2025

4 жыл бұрын

@@camberwellcarrot420 Eventually, they'll start competing with the Freightliner M2. When they do, I'll get the Freightliner.

@chumbawaumbacumpa

4 жыл бұрын

@CamberwellCarrot thinking about a Kia one ton pickup makes me cringe. That’s like Cessna trying to make a jumbo jet.

The pro backpack assist on my 150 pulling my 18'boat (even though I don't need it lol) cuts out pretty much 90% of the time, I think the sun and shadows mess with it

Can the rear camera on the trailer be displayed on the rearview mirror like the chevy?

@40calDeathPunch

4 жыл бұрын

No!

@brightymcbrightface

4 жыл бұрын

interesting point. I'd forgotten GM has that "see through" trailer mode which is pretty cool (for blind spots) but still has all the same problems with this Ford -- doesn't work in darkness or rain, should be wireless cameras, etc.

@treborheminway1196

4 жыл бұрын

@@brightymcbrightface Good point - For the price of these trucks, they should come with a IR camera as well - for bad weather.

Does this truck has an adjustable suspension similar to air suspension?

@buckhorncortez

4 жыл бұрын

No.

@AdamIverson

4 жыл бұрын

@@buckhorncortez why not? Having an adjustable suspension is a very useful feature!

Camera to rival an 8 bit Atari video game - amazing stuff ford.

Are we all going to just ignore the full tank with 147 miles til empty 😂 3:50 P.S. yes, I know this is because of the miles it’s been driven lol

@chrishaddad5362

3 жыл бұрын

In Fords defense it was a press day and these guys were basically just flooring it up a step mountain all day

Well you still have to use your hand, just turning a knob instead of the wheel.

@samduran5180

4 жыл бұрын

Right no kidding 😂

Why are the headlights flickering

0:55 truck almost fell apart when he pressed the button!

@al-shayb2539

4 жыл бұрын

Aaron and Hayley Skinner I realize that too when I was watching it.

@MrComputerCoder

4 жыл бұрын

Ford quality I guess.

@coolsquad7428

4 жыл бұрын

Same I saw the push button start area almost fell off

@coolsquad7428

4 жыл бұрын

Ram has better quality then ford and thats true

@lance_r72

4 жыл бұрын

So, being built "Ford tough" doesn't apply to the interior anymore I guess. This is what your $80-90 grand buys????