almost 10 years from this interview and the thing has gotten worse, it is amazing how far this epidemic has gone, i think it has reached even more high levels that the narcissism on the 70's and 80's

The manufacturing of narcissistic individuals ensures minimal unity, and therefore on a macro scale, a population that is already divided and easily conquered.

@spectraleyes6587

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Have you seen Adam Curtis' documentaries?

@ProJanitor

3 жыл бұрын

@Spectral Eyes no

I am reading the book "The Epidemic of Narcissism" am finding it very interesting. I was recommended to me by a friend.

If you have true self-esteem you would never need to say or act out "Look at me". Duh.

Really glad I watched this. Its like she was reading my mind..

Who knew 9 years later it would only get worse

I am so glad that she mentioned that what she is talking about is different to clinical NPD

I remember watching her on CSPAN about 15 years ago discussing social media and narcissism. She was correct so many years ago. It has gotten much worse. Get rid of smartphones and social media. Life was so much better without it.

i thanku for this video.

This is the most intelligent discussion on narcissism... most people just look for other videos where they can get affirmations where their partners are narcissistic

Interesting how the expect opinion have changed so drastically about NPD. Not tipping the scale compared to the information out now on how destructive this disorder is. 😮

That would honestly vary for each situation.

no boundaries and let their child take no matter what hardship the parents suffer. That tells the child they are more important than anything. Both alcoholic/abusive parents AND parents who spoil their kids have a lack of boundaries. Its much more important to talk about these issues than about the specifics of what parents do or don't say.

The difference would be why are you compassionate? Because it makes you feel good inside. Or because it will make you look better according to peers and the rest of society

The claim that a behavior such as narcissism is heritable contradicts a century of research in psychology, sociology, anthropology, economics, and political science. Perhaps readers of Twenge would be better served spending their money on validated research, rather than "pop-cultural studies" portrayed here by Twenge. The idea that violence is increasing 16:00 is in fact contradicted by research from Stephen Pinker. By no means can any of Twenge's research explain violence in society.

its called damage to narcissistic supply then you get rage from them

does Calvin College only show this video on its KZread channel, or do you show it other places?

Perhaps this type of narcissism I embody is simply self-esteem. Perhaps those two questions are preliminary, not truly indicative of narcissism.

She seems to be mentionning 'culture' as something outside of the people, but isn't culture created by the people? Aside from that, great talk.

self esteem and narcissism sound identical to me. Why is self esteem such a sacred cow?

This is sorta silly. I live with a mother who suffers from something like narcissism and she never was told she was any good, her condition is pretty bad. And I've never been told anything like "I'm special" by any of my two parents, and guess what? It's hard for me to do things because I feel like I'm never going to be good enough, since I can't be told that.

I wonder if narcissism and work ethic have a correlation. By just two answers of this woman's survey, I could be deemed a narcissist. I do think the world would be better if I ran it (which, actually, would be me NOT running it- fellow libertarians would understand) and I do think I am quite good looking. At the same time, I am willing to work hard, I've hit so many setbacks and experienced failures so often yet overcome them. Am I truly narcissistic?

We need hardship to keep us human.

She’s very wrong about the defensiveness not being due to insecurity. I thought all professionals would know that narcissistic grandiosity is an overcompensation for their extreme, intensely painful unconscious insecurity and self hatred. Nobody who is genuinely confident is overtly grandiose.

2012: I don’t think we’re ever going to go back to the level of narcissism...we saw in the 1970s or 1980’s. She’s eating her words in 2020 I bet.

I'm not a narcasist but I do love trolling on KZread video comments. I think it's sporting and an art form

Dr. Jean Twenge's work on the topic of narcissism in today's mainstream United States culture appears to be the revised and updated work to Christopher Lasch's landmark 1971 book, "The Culture of Narcissism". In the book Lasch brilliantly assays the cultural and generational shift of the self in society from a quaint, low-key early 20th century personhood to the self-aggrandize-seeking, entitled milieu of mid-to-late 20th century self-identities. With a touch of historical and sociological perspectives ranging from subjects of war, politics, sports, criminal justice, gender dynamics, and collegiate education Lasch unlike Twenge documents narcissism as being a medical pathology. Unfortunately, Christoper Lasch was a historian and social critic--not a licensed clinical psychologist. So, while Twenge's current provocative work is certainly an enlightening addition to the discussion of modern women and men identifying and cohabiting urban spaces with narcissistic individualism I think it serves more to raise awareness on current societal trends in regard to negative impacts rather than documenting and healing such predicaments. If it were to be continued in a non-pathological study her discussion will fall in the domain of philosophy because of its stem in ethics, epistemology, and ontology. Such discussions on narcissism, individualism, and the self has been raised as universals among great continental philosophers and philosophical movements. Just read the Existentialists--Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Sartre, Kafka, Heidegger and Camus or the Transcendentalists in Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry David Thoreau as examples. What is unfortunate for Dr. Jean Twenge, a non-clinical psychology professor whose work parlays more on collecting data as a sociologist rather than a diagnosis/examination of a clinician, is that her work comes in the era of post-modernism which leaves founding skepticism if not denial to the certainty of scientific analysis and conclusions to such theorizing. Moreover, if her work fell in the confounds of spirituality most, if not all, the Eastern religions with their celebrated teachers/avatars have spoken out for centuries in transcending the ego to reach the state of enlightenment rendered by the true Self.

@TheEdconn

7 жыл бұрын

Your point on the absence of a clinical perspective is a relevant one and I think broadly is absent in most of these sociologically orientated discussions. There is an allusion to a deeper understanding of the condition, but one which I feel falls short of explaining what is actually going on within the narcissists experience of the world which explains their attitudes, behavior actions etc. This is a very important oversight as you rightly say, as it leaves the narcissistic personality type or expression languishing in a somewhat mercurial world that plays into a somewhat fantastic but mystical view of the condition, a slightly abstract condition. This I believe makes it hard to make relevant to the orientation of perspective of resolution as a desired outcome by clear definitions of the psychic parameters of its dysfunction. To make the dysfunctional element more clearly defined from the inner psychic world helps define to others as well as the narcissist the understanding by definition that their condition is not unique, nor special, but one which is recognised, tabulated and clear for all to see as flawed. Narcissism is a developmental arrest when considered from a psychoanalytic perspective, where the healthy ego has not evolved as yet and symbiotic union with an idealised object is still present and optimised. This idealised internalised object sets the tone for self valuation and also gets projected onto the world to set up attractions to power, status, 'ideals' of the world around - these become the attractors and things to persue. The opposite of the idealised part object is the devalued part object - the deflated sense of self. This equally plays its role - in devaluing others and creeating this primitive split good v's bad perspective. This is binary pre egoic. The immaturity of the narcissist type is paramount to present to the world the reality of the condition - a condition of abject immaturity of psychic development. The healthy ego, the ability to appreciate shades of grey, assimilate and digest conflicting feelings and ideas, is what makes a human being and a social self - with thi being absent, the narcissist can only be an anti social creature as s/he has not yet evolved defininig egoic qualities and as such can only act like a child - inflation or deflation being their two references. Narcissists are so finely tuned to others due to the fused quality of this early pre egoic state - they are highly tuned/fused to external objects intra psychically and thus - sense/feel acutely and react accordingly - reward or retract/withdraw. - the latter of which is where the rage evolves from - projective defensive attack following inner retreat or withdrawl. They are easily overwhelmed by objects/people who do not mirror their sense of self perfectly - without this they suffer. This is a profound handicap and a chronic condition that may be understood as being 'sensitive' - when in fact more so it is accurately understood as fusion of the object - no sense of psychic distance from others. There is very little to glorify or accept as pleasant in any of this, which is exactly how it should be understood, as a condition with profound deleterious consequences for the person, not as just a social construct or trend within society. This abstraction plays into the narcissists inability to take responsibility, rather than an inner psychic explanation which present to the narcissist an explanation of why they are as they are and that this can be explained. Many narcissists conflate spiritualism with their narcissism, which is profoundly innacurate, the pre egoic mistaken for the trans egoic - this delusion sits at the heart of many new age ideas, which amount to little more than fantasy and inflation. The development of a healty ego is far more important than transcension at this particular time in my opinion.

@aniccadance13

7 жыл бұрын

Brilliant comment☺️

I mean, if I thought highly of myself and walked around treating people around me like dirt, that would be narcissism, right? I think highly of myself, but I am quite compassionate and respectful when speaking to others, regardless of differing opinions. How would that be narcissism? Ugh. This is just so confusing!

So I thought about it some more. Shouldn't narcissism be judged and determined SOLELY (or as a primary factor) from how one interacts with others instead of how one regards himself? I mean, with regards to certain viewpoints, I know I'm right and my parents are wrong. I have access to objective and quantifiable data which proves that I am right. Why would that make me narcissist, using basic logical extrapolation of this woman's words?

She says "maybe the recession will cure the narcissism epidemic". What is she saying, she would prefer more people were poor, more people were hungry, so they don't feel so good about themselves?

blaming something like saying your child is 'special' is really silly. You can't blame a serious PD on one thing you said to a child. Everyone is special, everyone is special in their own way. There is nothing wrong with saying that - its in no way narcissistic. I know quite a few ppl (including one of my parents) with NPD. They are usually from families which are either abusive or addictive. If a child has NPD from being treated nicely it is usually because their parents have cont.

@adarshnair4803

5 жыл бұрын

sksigil I think you missed the point ... her point is you deprive the kid of the perils of failing and the humility that stems from it and being special without earning it makes them entitled . This is how it starts and they believe they are special but they don’t get the rewards ... so wait the world is against them

I think it's all about parenting. If you don't raise your child right (to love the Lord), he or she will turn out to be a child of the devil. That should surprise no-one. But ultimately, narcissism is a choice --- to reject all but your own authority... which leads to hell.

Hey Calvin College Your Public Access level production makes me not even want to sit through this video Regardless of how Interested I am in what this Woman has to say. You are actually doing her a dis-service by hosting her. 2014 get it together. You, out of it creeps