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@foulumpire

Жыл бұрын

So why were the ejected casings brass and not nickel?

@joshuaskipper7583

3 ай бұрын

Great question

Yes they actually are belt loops , can either be worn on the belt or on the sling. Came out around the early to mid eightys , it was either illustrated on the back or side of the box i cant remember

I took a bighorn sheep at a little over 500 yards with my 300 Win Mag and a 200 grain terminal ascent. It dropped like a sack of wet cement.

Your videos are awesome. Excellent presentation style and pacing. Solid info, no fluff. Keep up the great work!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to be of service!

Well done as always. Great results all around and good perspective and consideration on expansion. Looking very much forward to longer range ballistic gel tests. Tough to do in every area. So salute for consideration and even trying it. Thank you.

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service!

22" Barrel when it was probably tested for velocity in a 26" test barrel.

@edwardabrams4972

Жыл бұрын

Actually they are usually tested in 24” inch barrels in 270 unless you get into the magnums like the 270 Weatherby or Nosler!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

And the overwhelming majority of 270’s have 22 inch barrels. The ammo manufacturers should use realistic test inputs.

@fedup3582

10 ай бұрын

​@@masonleathermy factory 270's have 24 inch barrels. While many are offered with 22 inch barrels, there are also many models that come with 24 inch barrels. Check the specs when buying to see which have the longer barrels if that is what you want. There are also models that offer 270 barrels of 28 inch length. Only two of the 270's I have owned have had 22 inch barrels. The rest have had 24 and one a 28 inch. I prefer at least a 24 inch barrel for the 270 so I pick the models that have that length. You have the model 70 featherweight, if you had picked the sporter or supergrade, it would have the 24 inch barrel. If you picked the winchester XPR it would have a 24 inch barrel and if you picked the winchester 1885 in 270, it would have a 28 inch barrel. Other brands have similar options. My NULA 24B in 270 has a 24 inch, and the weatherby vanguard I had, had a 24 inch. The first TC encore I had in 270, had a 28 inch barrel and the one I have now, I purposely got with a 24 inch barrel for its more compact size of just shy of 40 inches, 2+ inches shorter than the featherweight. A ruger number 1B usually comes with a 26 in barrel in 270, as does the browning B78. The ruger number 1A comes with a 22 and the international comes with a 20. Remington 700's are available with 24 inch 270 barrels and also browning X bolts I believe. Interarms mark X's come with 24 inch 270 barrels. There are many 270 rifles available with 24 inch barrels, you just have to pick a model so equipped. Just the same as if you want the more compact size of a 22 inch, those models are available too.

@sgtslippyfist6345

7 ай бұрын

​@fedup3582 longer barrel doesn't mean more accuracy

@richardsveum8452

7 ай бұрын

But it does have higher velocity. There is always a compromise, 24” is the best for calibers based on the 30/06 case.

Don't forget because of the 22 inch barrel you with lose 50-75 fps over a 24 inch barrel.

a friend hit a cow elk with 136 grain .270 win from aabout 100 yards in the lungs and she only went 40 yards and piled up with a full pass through shot very impressive

Love to see the Federal Fusion and some of the Hornady loadings. Especially the copper options. Great work bro!!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to be of service!

@Mj-CWO4

9 ай бұрын

@@masonleatherI think your evaluation is only half complete. Maybe you should do an in dept evaluation before you start doubting the product.

Glad to hear you be doing longer range testing. We'll a find out how these bullets perform. Unlike monolithic bullets, the Terminal Ascent may actually perform better at lower impact velocities and still expand adequately. But we all know that accuracy is the deciding factor at long range. Most bullets designed to expand properly at those ranges usually end up being mediocre at short ranges. They often expand too much and often suffer core separation. This may actually be the best of both worlds. We'll just have to wait and see.

@RedvsBluechurch1

7 ай бұрын

So the topic of core separation has always confused me, why does it matter?

@denisleblanc4506

7 ай бұрын

Because if you have core separation the remaining portion of the lead core is exposed and will not penetrate as deep as if it was still in the jacket. More retained weight is more penetration. It would also give you a better chance of a pass through and better blood trail. Core separation doesn't mean it isn't a killing shot but in makes recovery of the animal more difficult.@@RedvsBluechurch1

@RedvsBluechurch1

7 ай бұрын

@@denisleblanc4506 while this explanation has done nothing to dispel my confusion on the subject, it has enlightened me, thank you. Now keep in mind any rebuttle or followed question is not in spite, but fueled by curiosity and a desire for polite discourse.

I’ve been hunting for 50 years and anytime you get the expansion you showed relax, it’s plenty. It’s probably blowing right through all but the heaviest of North American game.

Great points Mason. Thanks for sharing! 🙏

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service!

Federal trophy bonded tip and edge tlr/terminal ascent are the closest thing to a true all purpose all game all range hunting bullet in existence. I love the 180 tbt hand loaded in my 300 win mag.

@codycallykurjata5224

6 ай бұрын

I also like the 180 trophy bonded tip. Bought a few 100 a few years ago. Hard to find now..

@jmgates09

2 күн бұрын

Looks like federal might have discontinued the TBT for the Terminal ascent bullet

This is what I have been waiting for😈

Considering the solid shank on the bullet, I think you are misreading the expansion results. I believe Frontline rejects did expansion tests of this load to 500 yds, you might want to check that out.

@mtower235

Жыл бұрын

Yup they test it all the way out. No guesswork no speculation just results

@nmelkhunter1

9 ай бұрын

@@mtower235Well said.

I took a cow elk with my 30-06 with these last December and they preformed amazingly 300 yard shot blew up both lungs and the heart she died where she stood found the bullet on the other side of the hide only lost 10 grains

Simple Minded fellar tested the Terminal Assent in 155gr 7mm and it's expansion across high and low velocity impacts was mind blowing. I believe the Terminal Assent bullet design is probably the #1 hunting bonded projectile made. Next would be Norma BondStrike and then Nosler's ABLR. For an all range hunting bullet under 500 yards, it's the one to beat.

On the Federal website, this ammo is listed as a big game cartridge. I wonder why? Maybe because of the penetration depth.

Great ammo, my favorite actually. Shoots about .4 moa in my Tikka super lite 7 rem mag, and so far has two, 1 shot kills on spike whitetail bucks. Nice quality vids!!

Great review. Thank you for all your informative ballistic videos. I've taken game with the 308 Terminal Ascent. Impact velocity about 2400 with good results. No bullet recovered but it did its job with penetration and expansion. I think it's pretty much a perfect bullet.

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service! I’ll be doing videos on Terminal Ascenst in every caliber, it will be interesting to see how consistent it is across calibers, seems like good stuff so far!

@supdru

Жыл бұрын

@@masonleather Nice, it would be great to see it in your 30-06 and 6.5CM. My wife shoots the 130gr in her 6.5CM but she hasn't taken any deer with it yet. I bet it will get similar penetration due to its high SD.

Can you test 270 in hornady american whitetail 130 grain? Love your channel. Also what about accuracy. Do you test for that?

BRAVO!!! 270 is my favorite whitetail round! Please try some Hornady loads and some Deer season XP!!!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

I certainly will 👍🏼

@donaldbougie694

5 ай бұрын

A 270 win is a very,very good caliber,i have one to a long time and 300wsm,big 308,small 308,243 win the 270 is not the last!

Who cares, results matter and bring meat home, but the 270. is always a great rifle/bullet to use ..

I have perhaps a different thought about the long range performance potential of the bullet. While it expanded to a value of 2.2x the original size it mushroomed and rolled back a lot of material. I suspect that at lower velocity values the expansion would still be sufficient but you would see less of the bullet expanded back over itself. I also suspect that you would see significantly less penetration at extended ranges which may also be a cause for concern. All in theory, of course, as I have no first hand experience with this particular bullet.

Again a nicely done video. I have a 270 also and have been waffling about trying the Terminal Ascent. Up here in Canada these range in price at some shops at $69 (w/ tax) to Cabela’s stupidly high price of $104 a box. So I like the results but if they don’t group I hate spending that amount of $. I recently had a Bergara Hunter in 06 and I tried the 175gr Terminal Ascent but in that rifle I could only get 1.75” groups with this ammo. However that gun shot 11 brands of ammo with various weights at 1.75”-3.5+” groups and would not feed any of the rounds. I took it back and fortunately the gun store took it back and I got a Tikka instead. But…this 270 136gr TA has a good sectional density of .253 and the construction should make it good for elk out to 400yds if it expands properly. Thanks for bringing that up. 👍🏾

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service! I’m a huge Tikka fan and not so much Bergara, similar experience to what you had.

@edwardabrams4972

Жыл бұрын

Tikka will shoot more brands of ammo MOA then any other rifle in their price range! I am a gun collector for about 60+ years and the Tikka is just hard to beat! I hunt with Sako’s which do the same thing since they are made by the same people! Bergara make great rifles but I have found this to be true on most of their rifles!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

I’ve found the same thing, my Tikka T3x 30-06 shoots everything extremely well and to nearly the same exact point of impact at 100 yards, which makes it easy to use it for these tests!

@larrysayers1377

Жыл бұрын

@@masonleather nice to hear. That 270 is a Tikka also and shoots 3 different brands of ammo 140 and 150 gr bullets into less than one inch. I also just recently got it after an issue with a 30-06 Sako 85 that would eject. Got rid of that too. This new Tikka is a 7 Rem Mag. Took it out today first time and it shot 175gr Rem Core-lokt at .85”, Sellier&Bellot 173gr at 1.2” and Norma Whitetail 150gr at 1.1”. So I’m very happy with that (7 Rem ammo is hard to find up here) and now a Tikka fan.

This video is on point! 🙏🙏 Shot this load on chronograph and gave me almost the same average. Added my suppressor and that’s the only way this load pushed the full 3000 fps

In 2021, I took a 10pt whitetail @ 30yrds with the .270 136gr Terminal Ascent ammo. Fell where it was, will be using it in other calibers.

Shot a pronghorn at about 150yds with my 308 using terminal ascent. 30 cal hole on one side and a half dollar size hole on the other. Took 2 steps forward stood there a couple seconds and dropped dead.

I was proud to witness my son take a bull elk at 150 yards with terminal assent 270. High shoulder, in one side and out the other.

Better weight retention generally also means that the round is harder and denser, which also means more limited expansion. There's also the catch 22 of engineering a bullet that has good expansion without compromising the BC or strength of the bullet too much in the process. In my opinion, this is a bullet/cartridge load better suited for tougher game. The performance leads me to believe you could make an ethical kill on an Elk at 600 yards, but even that would be a tad iffy to me.

@denisleblanc4506

4 ай бұрын

What you say may very well be true for a typical cup and core bullet. This bullet has a rear portion that is like a monolithic bullet and the small lead core at the front is bonded to the jacket. So the front of the bullet will mushroom faster and more easily than a copper bullet and it won't shed lead fragments as much because the core is bonded to the jacket. It is a tough bullet because it holds together and penetrates deeply. Not because it harder to deform or mushroom.

This bullet has already been tested at distance with all calibers and it performs amazing. Great video. I will be trying out the 175gr Ascent in my 30.06 this fall.🇺🇸

@bocconom

9 ай бұрын

As one who carries the 30-06 I would love to know what your results are. Thanks.

Nice thankyou for the video😊

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to be of service!

So at 1:56 the brass on the table from the shot is not nickel coated but standard as are the following yet the product is coated so what are you shooting ????

Perhaps an editing error but the rounds you are ejecting while firing are not the nickel plated brass of the ammo you are testing.

@ericjohnson8127

7 ай бұрын

I noticed that and the bullets examined weren’t terminal ascent either

@rockylopez1371

9 күн бұрын

Wtf I jus looked back you are 100% right ! 😂 can't watch this dude anymore if it looks like lies being told!

Already seen this bullet expansion at 500yds. It's awesome. Nothing is perfect but this bullet is close.

Super interesting test. I have now watched the whole .270 win series in quasi reverse order. Given the shorter penetration depth of all the other loads, the really good final 2.2x expansion and the 28’ avg penetration of this load, I am a bit worried about a slow expansion. Not sure how the deep penetration would go together with the 2.2x diameter otherwise. And then again what does this look like at 2300 ft/s

I could see this ammo being the opposite of long range ammo. It would make a good eastern woods load for the 270. A bullet that won't blow apart at those close ranges, and still be tough enough for bear, boar and even elk or moose. . I've seen other 0.277 bullets explode on deer inside 100 yards and wouldn't ever use them on larger game.

Trust me, this bullet expands fine at extended ranges. It's all my son and I use in out 270 WSM's. You get far better expansion on game than on gel blocks once it hits the harder hide, sinew, muscle, bone. Also, the fluid dynamics inside animals, on impact, plays a part in bullet expansion as well.

nice rifle

I used this same factory load in my 270 on a hunt a few days ago and took a nine pointer at 70 yards. The penetration and expansion at that distance and size of animal was unbelievable. It penetrated both shoulders and he never took a step!

@danellebarnette6380

8 ай бұрын

@@andyh3446 about half inch from point of shoulder and exited through the other shoulder. Not exactly high shoulder but it rendered him dead very quick

I would like to see a lot more test like this with premium bullets because I don’t reload

@masonleather

10 ай бұрын

I’d like to have a lot more money so I can do more with premium ammo 🤣🤣🤣

You would see more expansion at further distances because slower velocity would allow for it. Still only ethical out to 500 in my opinion.

@NorthRiverGuide

11 ай бұрын

Slower velocity causes less expansion.

I just bought a Featherweight .270. Mine has a black Pachmayr recoil pad. Just gotta get an old 30-30 like yours. I wonder what deposits nickel plating leaves behind ? The whole idea just looks like bling to me.

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

It’s supposed to make it “slicker” but it’s probably just for show like you’re saying.

I'm looking for western-style gun holster do you make those or not

Good video

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service!

Great review as always, but one thing I'd like to see is how quick expansion happens in the gel. In my humble opinion the quicker a bullet opens up,the faster the energy is released. Example: does expansion happen 1or2 inches inside the gel? Just a thought, many thanks for all the time & expense you put in these test you do a fantastic job!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support! That’d be great but I can’t analyze and evaluate every single factor or I’d never get anything done, as you correctly stated this takes an enormous amount of time to do already (way, way more than you’d think just from watching the videos) and I have to pick and choose where effort goes.

@keithreese9636

Жыл бұрын

I understand, like I said it was just a thought. Thanks Lee

More 270 please!!! And some longer Range testing if possible!

Terminal assent is the equivalent to a bonded and a copper bullet

I'd love to see a video on 270 130 grain tipped core lokt

@edwardabrams4972

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic deer ammo but not the best elk ammo better to go with copper or the accubonds for elk!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

I’ll test it at some point

The terminal ascents you showed were nickel plated but the cases you ejected were brass casing what bullets did you really shoot

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Terminal Ascent. I film dozens of videos at a time I’m not re-filming and editing the clip of me taking 3 shots every single time, that’s a stock clip put together for a given rifle/caliber. You can zoom in on the gel blocks and see the bullets are plated and then the bullet analysis is obviously of the Terminal Ascent bullets.

well done

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Glad to be of service!

That should be an excellent load for Elk, moose, bear ect

Test the Hornady 130 grain superformance st. It's a awesome round out of my savage model 110 .270

Can you test something with sierra bullets preferably in .308” cal? It’s the one I can get here, tgk and gk

Honestly do a video explaining how to put those Talley rings on. They’re a pain in the arse

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

The vertical split rings definitely are a pain, I agree 🤣 I’ll add that to the list

@pnwdweler4100

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I put a similar set of Warne rings on and it was the last time I ever bought that style of rings, just not worth the aggravation.

@edwardabrams4972

Жыл бұрын

That why I use the horizontal ones which are just a few dollars more and much easier to install!

@alm9951

Жыл бұрын

The Talley. Talley wacker!

Please try the 270 win federal premium 140 grain berger hybrid hunter the accuracy is amazing

I have some of this ammo for my 270wsm . I haven't used any of it yet but it will be pushing 3200 at the muzzle. I've just been using some of my older stuff till it runs out.

@frankspataro9714

10 ай бұрын

You are gonna like it if it shoots good out of your rifle

@jmgates09

2 күн бұрын

I have been looking for this ammo for my 270wsm can't find it anywhere

Frontline rejects did in out to 500 yards. Check their vid out. It did amazing

The velocity of these in the .270 was disappointing to me. Even with the added case capacity it barely got a higher velocity than my 7x57 with 139 grain bullet. Less than 50 fps more.

@derekmcmurry

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. The bullet is very good. The price is NOT worth it. All of my 270s are launching 130 grain Barnes TTSX over 3350fps and my 150 Bergers at 3000 fps. I would not consider Federal factory Terminal Ascent based on this video. On a deer, pronghorn, there's nothing this bullet has to offer that my Nosler ballistic tips and Accubonds haven't accomplished, let alone 3 decades of experience with my non flashy Speer boat tails

My opinion on everyone's concerns about expansion and penetration is that it is massively over hyped. I mean if guys killed things 80 or 100 years ago with fmj rounds or solid lead slugs then any modern round will do the trick. My bigger worry is the accuracy of my ammo of choice and that it won't explode going through the game. Even expansion is nice, but not king. I just was zeroing my gun and found it was liking the winchester deer season xp more than the Norma whitetail. And I'm curious about seeing how it would like some of the heavier rounds like 145 or 150 grain. Point is I think accuracy and consistency is better than expansions and bc and velocity and fps.

All the other bullets will less expansion at that distance.

130gr is generally the goto for a 270 for deer etc The 150 is the heaviest generally seen in this caliber for larger game.

Any chance you could review the federal trophy bonded tip in 130g?

Of the 270 ammo you have reviewed, which would you pick for elk up to 400 yards?

Honestly 2x expansion is a pretty high bar to expect at all ranges. If it expands to 2x at 500 yards, is it going to grenade at 50? I think 1.5 as a minimum is a more realistic bar.

@pnwdweler4100

Жыл бұрын

Nope, these are bonded so they won’t self destruct like the ELDX.

@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595

Жыл бұрын

@@pnwdweler4100 I was speaking hypothetically. I’m not even sure the Terminal Ascent will expand 2x at 500 yards.

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a high bar, I’m basing that on dozens of other loads I’ve already tested across multiple calibers and >2x is achieved most of the time (at 100 yards). Federal Fusion routinely expands to >2.5x while retaining 95%+ weight. My numbers are based on actual measured evidence. I never said I expect 2x expansion at 500 yards, that might be ridiculous (I don’t know as I’ve not tested that), only that 2.2x is a bit low at 100 for a bullet that’s supposed to perform at extended ranges also. Based on other results, I’d prefer to see 2.5x or even more at 100 to infer that at 500, 600, etc it’s still going to expand to whatever it’s potential is supposed to be.

@pnwdweler4100

Жыл бұрын

@@masonleather The construction of the bullet has to be considered. The bullet is only going to expand down to that solid copper shank, there is a much smaller lead core in the terminal ascent than there is in the fusion, so it's only going to expand so far. From the other videos I've watched there doesn't seem to much difference in the expansion from 100 to 500 yards, the expansion looks very consistent across all ranges.

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

That’s great if that’s the case and that’s just the max it’ll do and will do it across a wide range of impact velocities.

Caught your video. You know that is a trophy bonded bear claw that has been around for a long time. It's probably one of the best bullets next to a swift a frame and barnes that you can possibly use on game. Those three, in my opinion based on shooting game up cape buffalo that you can use. Caliber is not as important as bullet construction. That bullet in that 270 is great at 400 yards.

Simplemindedfella on his channel loads bullets down to see how they would work at distance. This is one of his favs

What dovuou expect from a 22” barrel?

This bullet is built more like a solid copper bullet (very little lead)So I would not worry about expansion at longer range!

Is there any way you can test your expansion theory? I’d love to see it out to 300 yards even. (I hunt moose in eastern Canada and would love to see your depth/expansion at 200-300 yards with this ammo, or Winchester expeditions big game/ long range brands!)

@masonleather

10 ай бұрын

Not right now, I don’t have access to a range where I can do that, it’s in the works.

@Amaces1

10 ай бұрын

@@masonleather if you ever get the chance, it would make a great video! (I got a 2 year old cow fall of October 2022 with my .270. I was using federal premium trophy bonded tip 140 grain and the shot was about 150 yards. The shot was broadside and went through her lung and her heart had a slice out of it as well. Knowing your effective penetration at different ranges is crucial to ethical hunting!) 👍🏼

Try testing that ammo from a 26 inch barrel like the factory does, and I think the velocity will be alot closer to advertised.

Bought me a Winchester model 70; 270 in 1959. Of course without those stupid attachments on top of it. Used it hunting in Northern Idaho. Never took a shot over 100 yds. Never used a blind or stand, that is not hunting. Hunting is getting down on the forest floor and tracking. I've shot deer, elk, bear and even a cougar. This was also before people start messing withe the ammo just to get a long shot. Also I never missed. I had a friend's mom teach me to shoot. One shot, one kill.

That’s my go to white tail gun. Absolutely love it, sometimes I forget it’s on my shoulder.

Test at 300 yards what’s the problem?

Ive killed 2 whitetail bucks and a coyote with the trophy bonded tip bullet which is very similar to terminal ascent. Very little to no blood trail but they all died withing 50 yards of the shot

Bring us a series of 150 grain .270 Winchester load tests. I see 150 grain .270 as having a whole different performance parameter and heavier game potential to the point of being a completely different cartridge. The speed difference between 130s and 150s is significant. Darn near needs a new name. 6.8 WCF maybe?

I know Oconnor touted the .270 for elk . But my old friend said shoot 130 grn bullets and only animals up to 300 lb. That is a good load . Ty

@edwardabrams4972

Жыл бұрын

Now if we could just get all the young sniper hunters to follow that good advise!

But how do they Group on paper at a 100 yards....

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Plenty good enough to hunt with seeing as how they hit the blocks each time

I used to concentrate on calculated impact energy. 1000 ft-bs for whitetail. 1500 ft-bs for mule deer and elk. But lately, I have found that it is important to consider the velocity required for the round to open up. And that, on average, is 2,000 fps. Granted, a heavier bullet my only need may 1850. And considering the difference between the published MV on the box and what you are actually getting out of that barrel, it might be wise to take the printed MV and subtract 200. Then, calculate the distance where it is still 2,000 fps or slightly above. And that is your effective range. And bigger can be better. .300 PRC at 800 yards will do more damage than the .270 W light grain.

@nathanadrian7797

8 ай бұрын

Why would you need more ft lbs for mulie over whitetail? Where I live, they are within 20 lbs of each other and wt seem to be tougher. As for velocity, it was probably factory tested with a 26 inch barrel, while this guy used a 22 inch barrel.

@ronws2007

8 ай бұрын

@@nathanadrian7797 Sorry, I generalized. In Colorado, they suggest 1500 for elk. And mule deer are bigger than whitetail but not as big as elk. The general advice I have found on whitetail is 1,000 ft-lbs. However, to me, the energy is ancilliary to the impact velocity and the performance of the specific bullet design. The manufacturer can recommend a minimum impact velocity for that particular bullet model to fully open and do the intended job.

Enjoyed the video. Was satisfied with all results except the fps. Dont get wrong that is plenty fast enough but i dont understand why federal would exerate the fps that much. 24 inch test barrell to your 22 shouldnt have been that much. Not every hunter has a chrono. The box should state a more accurate reflection in my opinion. I bought a box in 6.5prc. Plan on whitetail hunting inside of 350 yard. Not because of ammo but of our property we hunt. Will chrono the load and post the results. Hope not disappointed.

I have taken a deer with this bullet out of my.270 and it blew right through both shoulders, great video , thanks

@ejsocci2630

22 күн бұрын

Same thing for me, it looked like a.300 WM very awesome bullet

Can you do the terminal ascent 200 grain 300 win mag or 300wsm in a video I'd love to see it in a video. Thanks.

@jmgates09

2 күн бұрын

The 200gr TA is a BEAST use it in my 300wsm have never recovered a bullet so can't comment on performance besides it kills deer and hogs

Why do you consider velocity the lowest on your list for hunting ammo? Velocity is what makes bullets expand

wondering why you dont build a heavy wood block bench?

Would like to see Federal bump up the velocity a little in order to get the extended range performance desired. I think a 136 gr 270 Win bullet should easily be pushing upwards of 3100fps from a 24" bbl, 3060fps from a 22" and that would certainly increase the expansion to near the desired 2.5x @100yds.

How accuate is that Ammo on the RANGE on a target ?

I wish you would do 6.5-300 weatherby magnum 127 grain barnes LRX.

I bet federal tested the rounds with a 24” barrel

long range expansion is all theory with this bullet until tested. Lets see some actual results not speculation.

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Lemme just pull a 500 yard range out of my back pocket, sire 👑🥴🤡👍🏼 I can speculate all I want.

@fedup3582

10 ай бұрын

Check out frontline rejects expansion tests of this same ammo to 500 yds. Masonleather may not be testing to 500 yds, due to his shooting range limitations but he is testing at a range that is relevant to a large part of hunting and while he may not fulfill everyone's wishes, he does a good, relevant job.

I use this for short range 100> yards

It worked very well on the plains elk this year

Is there a chance that the closer range and higher velocity “peeled back” the bullet so violently that it actually rolled back into the remaining body of the bullet to give you 2.2x expansion, and that MAYBE if it were going slower at longer distances it wouldn’t expand as violently and would not be peeled back as much, making it be at least the 2x you like to see? I guess the only way would be to test at 400 yards or so to find out. (I’m sure penetration would probably be half a good less at that distance too……)

I would love it if you tested the 308 175 grain terminal accent! Thanks for the great videos!

136g is not light for caliber. 130 is standard weight for 270

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

It is 100% on the lighter half of the commonly available medium game hunting bullet weights available for the 270 Winchester. 130-150.

@deej9367

Жыл бұрын

@masonleather the 270 was designed around the 130gr. Light for caliber would be like the 110 grain bullets, 136gr is not light for caliber

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

Oh well

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@edwardabrams4972

Жыл бұрын

Yes and is fantastic on ranges of 400 yards and less!

@ronlowney4700

Жыл бұрын

Have you tested it yet??? 🤷‍♂️

@ronlowney4700

Жыл бұрын

Please, tell me more? 🕵️‍♂️

@victoraguilera5805

4 ай бұрын

No, they don't

@ronlowney4700

4 ай бұрын

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Take a good look at your two projectiles that you have you'll notice that they peeled way back. At farther distances they would still expand to the approximate same diameter just would not roll back as far on the bullet.

Hi Mason. I liked your video on the 270. I've been reloading, Load Developing and Long Range shooting for over 50+ years. I've done a substantial amount of developing loads for the 270. All of my loads were with several different weights and brands of bullets. Recently I shot my Weatherby 270 with the 24 inch Barrel and the Hornady 145 grain ELDX Bullets at 3177fps with a .315 sub MOA accuracy. That was 2 grains under max load too. If there is one thing I've learned over these many years is that the 270 needs a longer Barrel. My Browning A-Bolt 2 Medallion with the 26 inch barrel pushed the Nosler 130grn BTs at 3300fps. I shot a nice 4 point at 510 yards with that load. Normally I would never shoot anything past 300 yards. But there were some mitigating circumstances on this hunt so I took the shot. Personally anyone shooting past 300 yards especially with factory ammo at larger animals is a fool. We've got far too many youngsters who think they're Chris Kyle or Carlos Hathcock and presume to thing they're the greatest long range expert out there. I can and have beat the 6.5 Creedmore with my 270 many times. Frankly i'm getting really annoyed at all these new fangled Cartridges coming out that really don't do much better than the old War Horses like the 30-06 and the 270. It's frustrating to see the Factory fudge on their ammo loads like these you tested. i'm seeing a lot of that lately. At any point if you want to know some good loads for your 270 ask me. I know you'll be impressed. Especially at longer ranges.

@edwardabrams4972

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone who speaks some sense to these young shooters! In my short 60+ years of collecting, reloading and hunting I have found and seen just about everything that can happen at the range and in the woods and we owe it to the game and the sport to be responsible hunters so our sport will last for our kids and grandkids!

@masonleather

Жыл бұрын

I agree on all counts!

@dennisowen3717

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardabrams4972 That's my point exactly. I hope to have a 270 with a 28 inch barrel and a 1 in 8.5 twist built soon to stabalize the longer heavier bullets. i should be getting about 3000+ fps out of the 160grn bullets with that set up. We'll see. But the fact that I can get the 145eldx Hornady's to almost 3200fps in a 24 inch barrel is promising.

@schoonhovenboy

7 ай бұрын

I shoot a .270 win Nosler partitions with 52 gr of 4831. Tikka t3 22.4 inch barrel

@dennisowen3717

7 ай бұрын

@schoonhovenboy H4831 is good for the 270 but try Reloader 22 and SraBal 6.5.

Great video. But you keep saying the 136 grain is a light for caliber round. It submit that it is not. 130 grain 270 Win is pretty much the standard for deer sized game. 150 is certainly used for deer, but I wouldn't say it's the most common weight.

I really don't give a shit about how pretty the paper box is... no offense.

Don't shoot 270.good video I watch em all.😊😊😊