I saw that scene with his son as Ogami offering what comfort he could in a "stay strong my son" way. He won't rescue him but he won't leave him alone in this situation

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

Yeah i see that. That makes sense now!

This was one of my favorites in the series. Very dark. The air of desperation, violence and madness are tangible. This is the road to hell. Cool series of commentaries. Great films that deserve to be watched and remembered. 🍻

Just finished this one this morning. I feel Ogami Carrie’s all of these deaths with him and is just hiding the depression within. He’s definitely used to it but there’s no way it doesn’t bother him somehow he just doesn’t show it. I think the father son relationship is very subtle. The diagoro sub plot is a great showing of how their relationship is and you can see throughout the series he cares for daigoro.

He's an assassin, in the comic a priest, the one he must kill but he is in doubt, taught him on how to be a real assassin, that is "meet your parent, kill your parent, meet Buddha, kill Buddha". The priest told him to come back after he understand the meaning of it then he can carry on his mission. So Ogami meditate for some while in front of Buddha statue, then slash the statue. The priest is HAPPY the moment Ogami slash his head and say "perfect..." 😁 That's why he just kill the ones he's hired to kill, that's The Way of Assassin. He's not a Hollywood assassin 😆

@piperian3962

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, if you watch this expecting him to emote and show the pain he feels, you don’t understand the story.

@khalidmkhan

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, I was trying to understand that bit of the film. 👍

@MizanQistina

3 ай бұрын

@@khalidmkhan The comic and the movies are slightly different, but still following the same philosophy. It is strange for non-Japanese to understand the nuances, it is hard for me. I just think that it is all crazy.

Feudal Japan was not for the faint of heart, nor the less than open minded or, no disrespect, soft western ways of thinking. Ogami Itto was the ideal father for the child of a samurai, especially one born into a world where tragedy was not only often experienced, but glorified into a beautiful form of plays in the Kabuki theatre. I’m Native American and could see a very similar story like this happening in colonial America. Some may see Ogami’s not helping Daigoro when he was being whipped as barbaric or cruel, but Daigoro was raised to be prepared to die whether it be alongside his father or alone. He was hardened to survive, and not show fear as he traveled with Ogami to avenge his mother’s death and their betrayal by the Yagyu clan. Daigoro believed it was right to keep silent, and would die for that belief. And Ogami was in a sense there silently as a reminder and, believe it or not, support for his son. As for the killing of the woman and kid, And forgive me if I’m wrong as it’s been a while since I’ve seen the movies, but it was due to the the contract as well as killing all three would deal a huge blow to the Yagyu clan, which is no different from the Yagyu taking his wife from him in an attempt to break him, making him unable to fight. Ogami would do anything to hurt The Yagyu clan’s leader, all beginning with killing all of his sons. It’s one of my favorite movies series and I love coming back to them. If I’m wrong about any of my info, please let me know as I always want to have my facts straight.

@blahblahblah9844

4 ай бұрын

"Me and my son walk the demon way in hell." I saw Shogun Assassin years ago and stumbled upon this series on streaming. It's definitely ten times better and this is not like western Cinema with your "good vs evil" Ogami is a killer and is not a "good guy" he's an assassin and in many story lines (like killing the mother and daughter and father of the clan which was hiding the prince) he was righting a wrong according to fedual Japan (he saved that clan from destruction) I think the violence is of course absurd and over the top (par for the course of these movies) but it's Feudal Japan and feudalism is a brutal system. I actually love that about it.

Thanks for reviewing. Script is less confusing if you read the manga series which is superb. The violence does not bother me because it’s not real. While not as good as the previous entry the increased action compensated.

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I really have to finish the manga!

@chrismachabee3128

9 ай бұрын

Many of the action scenes are realistic as to what happens when a sword cut, and where on the body it cuts. All slices are not equal. One of the 3 Amigos had a handset like Wolverine and when he stabbed them the blood came out quite organized to the blow. I was never afraid of Frankenstein as even as a kid I did not believe you could put pieces of a human together and reanimate the pieces back to life. I didn't find out until I was a full adult that Frankenstein killed the little girl, they censored that when I was a kid. I never knew why the villagers were so angry.

@asianfilmfan1

9 ай бұрын

@@chrismachabee3128 what I meant by not real is no one was injured. Yes the sword skills are amazing!!!

Love your channel. Its great to have someone break down some of the greatest japaense samurai films of all time. Looking foward to discovering more of the little known gems through your perspective. :)

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy them!

This is where I felt the franchise ran out of steam. The plot and resolution where really go but the pacing wasn't executed (no pun intended) well. The best parts for me was the ending and Daigoro's side plot which just solidified what a bad ass he is. He was the MVP of this and the pervious movie, but more so in this one.

Used to love these in college. Caught one or two when I lived in Japan. Never saw this one. Killing of a women and child may have been difficult for me to watch then, but as a father and now grandfather, no way I could watch it.

Great review. I liked this film, quite a lot. I didn't understand the 2nd mission until the end. Then it made complete sense. The film kinda needed it. The problem I had with the film is three fold. First, the idea that 5 vessels would give a part of the mission brief. Suppose the first one had his head chopped off? The mission would have been over. Second, the first attempt to kill the prest. Why didn't he just do it? I'm trying hard to come up with a reason that actually works. Third, the way the 2nd mission is given. No proper secrets given. I love the pick pocket bit, had a tear during the flogging bit. It's a father/son thing. Thank you for uploading.

@khalidmkhan

3 ай бұрын

@MizanQistina explains the priest thing quite well in the comments.

I'm ashamed to say I've only seen Shogun Assasin, and none of the actual series. Not even read the comics they were based on, however, this video has reminded me! 🙏

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

I love shogun Assassin! You definitely have to watch the originals, it makes the story feel more complete and are now easy to get copies of.

@heroicjourney2508

Жыл бұрын

@@bushidoblues9302 I'm asking the wife to get the collection for Christmas 😁

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

@@heroicjourney2508 it's a great set. I love the cover art

@heroicjourney2508

Жыл бұрын

@@bushidoblues9302 I missed an opportunity to pick the set up from my local HMV a few years back, chose Daimajin instead, awesome, but still regretted not grabbing it, but 2 bluray boxsets ain't cheap. I'm definitely putting the pressure on the wife for the Lone wolf series though. Also Harakiri....again, ashamed to say, never saw it, but I think I like it that way, I'm still discovering gems in my 40s 🙏

I like your stuff, but this film is by far my favorite in a series that I love more than any other. I think a lack of familiarity with Japanese history, and maybe that plot confusion you mention, reduced the enjoyment you might have otherwise gotten from the film. For me, the piecemeal revelation of the plot, the badass Daigoro moment, the way that Ogami slowly and relentlessly circles behind the feckless, doomed daimyo, assuming his executioner’s stance with terrible inevitability, and the masterful battle with the Kuroda masked men made this film amazing from beginning to end. If it helps you at all, just consider that Ogami didn’t kill the daimyo, his mistress, and their daughter, so much as the weak-willed daimyo himself did, the moment he chose to lock up his son and lie to the Shogunate. That’s why the Kuroda men were so desperate to hire Ogami-when the Shogunate inevitably found out, every member of the clan would have been dishonored, executed along with their families, and the clan itself liquidated, its finances claimed by the bakufu. Only by having Ogami do what was needed could the true heir be saved, the retainers and their families saved from death, and the clan itself survive, instead of becoming another notch on the Yagyuu scabbard. There was never a scenario in which the daimyo, his mistress, and their daughter could survive for more than a year (when the daimyo and heir would need to make the pilgrimage to Edo), only one terrible one in which they didn’t drag everyone else in the Clan to dishonor and the grave along with them.

The battle between Ogami and the Kuroda Clan at the end is the best sword fight in any samurai movie. Don't let this review put you off. I watched all of the series in 1995 about 30 times each. It was difficult to tire of them. Most Don't know that there was another final episode called Habdful Of Sand. I bought a low resolution Bootleg copy. I lost it, but I plan to one day find and buy an authorized copy. So should you.

@bushidoblues9302

7 ай бұрын

That's very interesting! The title wasn't meant to turn people off, but instead, make them interested in this film.

Just finished reading the manga,, it may be worth rewatching the films again.

Thank you I thought I had seen all the Lone Wolf and Cub movies. I going to watch the 5th movie right now.

I agree with this entry it does get a bit confusing and convoluted and so does the next one. I also agree you want realistic view of the world back then when it comes to a relationship between father and son. A man needs to be able to survive a brutal world or die.

In the first movie, he was going to send his own kid to the shadow realm if Daigoro would have chosen the ball. I mean, call me crazy but off the jump Itto was on beast mode so… All I’m saying is, if this was made into an anime no one would bat an eye.

That moment is the reason why I like it. It was a ballsy move and I respect it.

Japan is the only country that makes movies like this.

When I watch these movies I see my dad and me

I never took issue with how Ogami Ittō treated his son remember in the first movie he offered his son an orb or a sword if his son had chosen the orb he would have killed him. My dad was the same way because I came from a Viking family he once dangled me off a cliff to take a picture plus there are plenty of times where he shows his affection to his son. He's a hard ass but overall I think he's a good guy

Kill a child (The Daimyo's Daughter, dressed as their dead son) or let the entire fiefdom and the secondary family in Kyoto be killed, man, woman, child and the samurai serving that lord? It's not very hard to choose. For Ogami, five brave generals set up that assassination begging Ogami to make that choice. This film trumps the others on obligation and Buddhist ethos.

I think he killed the child out of mercy. He sent the whole family to the afterlife together to spare them the pain of being left alone, one without the other. A child without it's parents.

@bushidoblues9302

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I can see that.

And I don't think they went to fare Samurai were ruthless back then and in a lot of Asian countries wiping out a blood line is a major theme

Name of these films in order?

I liked the messengers, and Diagoro was badass in this one.

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's always nice when Daigoro gets some screen time!

Liked first 4 movies but it totally went overboard with last ones.

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how ridiculous they'd get if they went beyond that. What could be crazier than ninjas on skis?

Why would Ogami feel bad about killing the kid? All the way through the series he admits he is a demon walking the path to hell.

Did this episode go too far? Meh, who knows. Still it's waaaaaay better than Wakayama's brother's Zatoichi #24, lol.

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

Is Zatoichi 24 bad or something? I didn't get that far yet haha

@glenmoss02

Жыл бұрын

@@bushidoblues9302 If I remember correctly, #24 was the first in the series to be directed Zatoichi himself, Shintaro Katsu, and yes, compared to the previous episodes it was a train wreck. Animal cruelty, semen, just to name a few things. Katsu should have committed seppuku for this directorial debut. I'd recommend skipping it and go straight to #25, but I'm sure you won't, so be prepared, lol

" White Heaven in Hell " is the final film in the series.

I thought the TV series was better. The films didn't complete the full story of lone wolf and cub.

@bushidoblues9302

Жыл бұрын

Does the TV series have a proper ending?

@NeilTheHippy

Жыл бұрын

@@bushidoblues9302 Yes it does.

@NeilTheHippy

Жыл бұрын

If you haven't seen it definitely worth the watch. 👍🏻

@miiityann

Жыл бұрын

TVシリーズのラストは本当に驚き，かつ感動します。 『柳生』は拝一刀を倒した後，大五郎にわざと刺されて，大五郎の事を『我が孫』と言い抱き締めて死ぬのですから！ 結局『子連れ狼』とは，大五郎の成長記録の物語だったのかな？と推測します。 漫画では『新．子連れ狼』が始まりましたが全部は読んでいません。 途中まで読んだ内容では，亡くなった父，拝一刀を思いながら大五郎はたった1人で少しずつ成長して父に似た男と共に旅をしていました。 その後大五郎は大人になったのか？誰か知りませんか？

This film series seems to be the origin of all of the weird bizarre cinematography and choreography choices that make Japanese animations unbearable.

It would be so good without the commentary

@bushidoblues9302

5 ай бұрын

Then shut up and watch the movie.