Logitech G29 vs. PXN V10
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Logitech G923 or PXN V10: Which One is Right for You? At around 300GBP / 350 USD, one is probably better.
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If you're really tight on budget, don't forget about Logitech G27 too because it's pretty much G29 with optical sensors instead, and also doesn't have that rubber stop people seem to hate on the brakes, also includes shifters that are better than the ones you have to separately pay for on the G29. I'd say what you're paying extra for on G29 is the modern console support and the fact that you can get it brand new.
@Gustinelli
Жыл бұрын
I had my g27 since 2014. The ffb got messy but cmon, its a freaking 8 year wheel and its problems can be easy fixed, pretty much its stil in one piece
@Akira-kd6us
Жыл бұрын
@@Gustinelli yeah it’s really sturdy, you would expect a plastic toy that fights back at you to break in no time but they’ll prove you wrong.
@JenghanHsieh
Жыл бұрын
@@Akira-kd6us I'm still using my Microsoft Forcefeedback wheel from 2000...
@Akira-kd6us
Жыл бұрын
@@JenghanHsieh Damn lol, that’s nuts. Like seriously, how does these wheels survive years of beating?
@aaronpearce2517
Жыл бұрын
Does it work on the ps4?
A review I have been waiting for!
I was so close to buying a V10. Didnt know it was a bad, rebranded Mad Catz wheel. Thanks man!
@LuddleW
Ай бұрын
Which one did you buy? Please help
Exactly at the right time as i’m considering these 2 wheels. Nice video as always!
@YSF_B28
Жыл бұрын
If you've bought one, which did you choose and how's it treating you?
@papo4038
3 ай бұрын
@@YSF_B28 which did you choose \
@YSF_B28
3 ай бұрын
@@papo4038 I got a text, much cheaper but very good
@YSF_B28
3 ай бұрын
@@papo4038 tmx*
I have heavy experience with all these wheels and would like to preface my current setup before I compare the Driving Force GT, G29, and V10. I personally use a g920 with a 6amp PSU, stiffened shifter, inverted clutch and inverted/adjusted brake pedal, 15" fake OMP wheel with 1" QR, extended ARD paddle shifters, a real hydro brake that was diy fitted with a hall sensor and a board to transfer the data via micro usb, and it's all wrapped up in a VEVOR RS6 cockpit, which is a $200 clone of a next level racing rig, with a next level racing monitor stand that fit right on the cockpit's mounts since it's a 1:1 clone. I used a driving force gt (DFGT) up until last year sometime. I also had the madcatz wheel way back (inferior to dfgt), and recently got to try the PXN V10 (superior to dfgt). This PXN wheel feels nothing like I remember the MadCatz feeling. It isn't a "breakthrough" or anything it's still subpar when compared to a g29, but a solid SOLID option that feels infinitely smoother than the terribly gritty dfgt. I traded my Driving Force GT to a friend who recently got the PXN V10 as a replacement. The shifter and pedals are completely different from what my madcatz wheel had, both feel good and it's super easy to buy stiffer springs in literally any shape/rate you would want and maybe 10-20 bucks to change all 3. I'm almost certain the internals have changed from the madcatz wheel. The feedback is plenty powerful to give you some immersion. Similar feedback to the driving force with slightly less powerful peaks (barely noticeable unless they're side by side like they were for me.) I'd also like to remind everybody the g29, g27, etc. are also very similar to the DFGT force feedback, just slightly more powerful all around and not nearly as loud, but still similar noise to the PXN V10. I personally tell everyone to go used on sim equipment if you have a low price point in mind, but if you "NEED" to buy new and want everything included, the PXN V10 is the way to go. It's a whole price point lower than the G923 once you factor in having a shifter, offers adequate feedback, and most likely modders are gonna hop on making wheel adapters and other mods just like the other budget wheels receive. I think it's a great option that's currently being produced, has full force feedback, and is considerably cheaper than it's competitors while adding extra functionality (shifter included.)
@N6.K6
Жыл бұрын
What do you choose v10 and g923 what do you recommend
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
i wouldnt buy a pxn v10 when a t300 costs max 250 second hand, i bought a logitech shifter and built an adapter to go along with it and i have a approx 300 buck wheel which is infinitely better then a g29, my brother has the thrustmaster shifter and altough it has a bit more resistance i prefer the logitech because its a much smaller throw into gears which means i beat him in drag races haha. anyways i just reccomend a second hand t300rs gt or ferrari version or just a wheel base and buy pedals seperately as that is cheaper sometimes
@super_coconut11
Жыл бұрын
do you know by any chance where you could find replacement springs to make the pedals stiffer, since you mentioned it?
Im now with Fanatec csl DD but before i was driving on G27 for almost 7 years, undestroyable, rocking hard after years, i still believe logitech as entry level sim wheel is still top. Maybe it was little bit louder because of gears but for that money?
@samgong1125
Жыл бұрын
My g27 broke down right before i going in to army,, so i sold it cheap. It broke down but the former owner was the potate farmer.. so i guess he abused a bit
@mehdi-3763
Жыл бұрын
@@samgong1125 So someone actually bought the broken wheel ?
@samgong1125
Жыл бұрын
@@mehdi-3763 Some friend of mine who can fix that font worry
According to that picture of the inside of the PXN base, that is not a belt driven system but a gear driven like the Logitech
@randomcallsign
Жыл бұрын
yep
I'd love to find a chip circumvention device for my PS3 that'll let me use my Fanatec wheel and pedals to play GT 5/6.
Peddles can be tightened I believe by simply turned a bolt or screw on the side of them
honestly i have a pxn v10 not which is my first wheel but i love it looking to upgrade just because i know there are better out there but i love this wheel right now an the fact you can edit ffb real time in the app
@N6.K6
Жыл бұрын
Which are better V10 and g923
@showerasmr5764
Жыл бұрын
@@N6.K6 g923 will be funner
@sopas4377
Жыл бұрын
update pls
@JefferyWayne
Жыл бұрын
@@N6.K6 havent used one per say but i like the pxn 10 forsure, good wheel for decent price i got a wheel shifter and a stand for 400 but you could probably find a used g923 for cheaper to practice on my next upgrade will be a moza though forsure from reviews ive seen
@JefferyWayne
Жыл бұрын
@@sopas4377 couldnt tell you which is better but i like my pxn forsure never used another wheel but i didnt see a bunch of bad reviews until i bought it lol but overall good starter wheel forsure \
Can you please review the PXN V12? Thanks
I own a PXN V10 and it is a very good wheel. This is pretty biased review because he was for instance, calling the buttons on back "trash". It isn't They are responsive and very clicky. The clutch one isn't, but it is a clutch. Price for the V10 was $279...LogiTech cannot TOUCH that price with a shifter. If it is a money "I want a shifter and shouldn't have to pay more to get it" person like I am, go with the V10. You won't be sorry.
i had the g29 but i sold it because of the need of money plus it had too much death zone on the pedal now i got xbox series s and ps5 i have a flight simulator of pxn that’s why i’m interested on the wheel
is it worth it to buy for 210 usd bnew?. g920 cost about 300 usd new without shifter, i can't see alot of g920 near my place hence can't buy 2nd hand, i intend to use it on my xbox one s and laptop
so that you understand in my country, the logitech g29 steering wheel costs $ 374 and the pxn costs $ 124, so there's definitely a choice for the pxn
@bogodoyandex9654
17 күн бұрын
Except in China, the PXN V10 cannot be sold for $124. One year ago, and even now, it's priced around $300.
@Rand.Z06
23 сағат бұрын
@@bogodoyandex9654 he is right I’ve seen v10s as low as 140$
Alittle bit biased, considering I have a collection of sim wheels. The pxn feels nowhere as close as the madcatz, in fact its much better and stronger in feel. With the right settings, the pxn ffb feels on point with the g29, but much grinder. The pxn pedals also uses hall sensors, which is a one step up towards the logitech's pedals. The springs are easily replaceable too. Anyways, very informative video.
@Greatgoku4
Жыл бұрын
Pxn is garbage and will break...won't ever last years like logitech
I wanna ask is pxn worth it for like new sim racers? Because i wanna get the v10 or v99 because it looks perfectly fine and like usable soo should i get 1
for £300 gbp just get a thrustmaster tx leather. It may not come with a shifter but if your not wanting to fork out for the amazing th8a like i did. You can buy the Logitech shifter and a usb adapter. Will give you much better force feedback than the gear driven logitech.
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
or build your own adapter for like 8 bucks
@LuisRivas-yb1gq
Жыл бұрын
But the TX costs $500 wdym 😭
@digitalclock
Жыл бұрын
@@LuisRivas-yb1gq got mine open box in the uk. Lookout for deals as logitech wheels are shite
If it's a dual motor belt drive then why is the pxn v10 notchy when having the inertia setting at anything more than 10% belt driven are meant to be smoother.
@breakman200
7 ай бұрын
Because it's not belt driven, idk where this guy got his info from, but it's two motors with gears that connect directly to the main shaft gear, no belts in it's configuration, but also not too complicated that takes the ffb away
I think the Logitech is easily the go to wheel for most people, not necessarily for buying it brand new, but buying them secondhand. Not sure about us or UK or other regions but in Australia a full g29/920 kit can be had for less than to about half the price of just the wheel, so you get the same product for a fraction of the price, and what you can do is either put that money towards whatever else, or take the extra savings from if you bought it brand new, and purchase mods for the wheel, stuff like shifter mods, magnetic paddle mods, variety of pedal mods, you could easily kit it out to basically be a really good wheel aside from pros of other wheels like interchangeable wheels or a different drive like belt or even DD
My man using fujimi after the tcs round
Can you make a video on the pxn v99
I think you all are taking the wrong impression from this it’s a great start and way cheaper and function way better then Logitech and you can customize way more and make it your own
I have a 3D Printer and got the G29 a week ago. Already made a new shifter knob, and made the tactile H Pattern shifter mod. It has an inner ring to attach elastic bands to, so that tightens up the neutral position ny at least x2! The tactile H pattern gives a more resistant and locked in feel as each gear goes in. I also pulled my shifter apart to put a headbolt into the selector spring but in my shifter, the spring is alread protruding out a lot, and its very tight, so much so, that even with the bands in place and no H Pattern shifter, it will hold gear quite well. But for anyone with a G27 shifter or pre 2022 shifter for G29, just use a head bolt or 3d print a bit of plastic to sit under the spring. And it will tighten up the selector by pre loading the spring with extra force. Combine that spring mod, with the H Pattern mod and inner ring with elastic bands, add a better shiter knob (not too heavy), and you really improve that shifter by twice as much. Only mod needed really with a G29 setup. You can always add 4nm motors and mod the break pedal or add pedal extensions, or new pedal plates. The G29 can even be modded to take a wheel adapter, however you can lose access to buttons, depending on the wheel. But the G29 (G923 or G920) are great from the modding stand point, especially if you already own a 3D printer. Imo it's the perfect wheel to dabble in Sim racing. From there you'll know if you'll use it much and whether or not you jeed more expensive setups later. In which case the 2nd hand buyers market is always looking for cheap logitech setups
Nah avoid PXN at all cost. The ffb is okay but everything about it are so flimsy and easy to break. My company bought 2 of them and both broke in less than 3 months (pedal and calibration problem). Furthermore I can't even claim their so called 1 year warranty. PXN completely ghosted me after giving everything they asked for (proof of purchase, video, etc). I'm up for giving new company a chance but take it from me, big NO for PXN.
@Equalsundew
Жыл бұрын
So I'm new to sim racing and on Amazon the pxn is 280 while the logitec is 350 for wheel and shifter and pedal. Is it still better to get the logitec one?
@keonyang3332
Жыл бұрын
@@Equalsundew get a g29 its made by a company known for quality
@nigmane
Жыл бұрын
i have g29, will buy t300rs gt tho, trust me, it’s better.
@Equalsundew
Жыл бұрын
@Keon Yang I bought the pxn bc it was cheaper and many reviews and people disagreed and said the pxn was on par
@SLFCam
Жыл бұрын
Bro you just didn’t take care if it I bought the cheapest steering wheel I could find which was the PXN v9 has it for about 2 and half years now works just find and I didn’t even really take care if it when I was done using I just kinda threw it to the floor
So which one is it G29 or G923?
Does PXN-v10 work on switch
The Pxn v10 have app to make your settings
Logitech because the Brake can modified to a 70lb Load Cell from Ricmotech's LC27-3 Logitech Load Cell Kit V3
which one do u recomend for beginners on pc and assetto corsa
@randomcallsign
Жыл бұрын
like the video says, g29
For beginners who don't know what to expect and want to just get their feet wet, the G29 is a no brainer when it was on sale for $299 CAD this holiday season. Otherwise if you care about driving and want something to grow into then it's worth spending more on a T300RS GT.
@Equalsundew
Жыл бұрын
So I'm guessing the g920 being 280 in Amazon is a good deal?
@VectorAero
Жыл бұрын
@@Equalsundew I'm assuming you mean USD. $300 USD is regular price in the States so $20 off is not a big deal.
im happy with the v10. I picked it up for $250 on amazon so its hard to beat that price
@goober1794
19 күн бұрын
Coming in tomarow is it still good for you ?
@agentice7718
10 күн бұрын
How is the wheel @@goober1794
can the shifter in the oxn be connected to the logitech wheel?
@zaf2774
Ай бұрын
Yes, via usb
V10 support ps5?
If you're thinking about buying a g29 you're much better off with a T300RS, far better wheel in every way for the same price as a 29/923. I have every Logitech Wheel since the g25 which had the best shifter in the series, the wheels are okay for the price point, but the T300RS GT is just a better buy any day. Better Force Feedback, you can actually detach the rim.
Excuse me but how the pxn v10 shifter is 6 speed😐❓where is the reverse?
@randomcallsign
Жыл бұрын
Press down, move to 6th. Works like any other 6 speed car.
Man, i really have 0 idea wtf should i buy. People are saying " G29 is 💩" same to g920, other say that it's good, same for pxn v9-v10... What should i buy? I only play games like beamng drive,ets/ats,assetto corsa and maybe gta 5? if it's supported ( with modded cars singleplayer ) and that's it. for like 350-400$ , what should i buy?
Does it work for ps5
in my country v10 is much cheaper v10 269 USD g29+shift 299 USD g920+shift 369 USD g923+shift 399 USD T248 369 USD T248x 399 USD which should i buy? i have Xbox series so i want wheel to play on Xbox to
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
i would go for a thrustmaster tx second hand if you cant find one go for a g29 or its xbox counterpart the truerumble stuff is just advertising and makes ffb more unrealistic and loud
@bogodoyandex9654
17 күн бұрын
Indeed, this is due to political tariffs imposed on Chinese products in the United States and Europe. As a result, products like these from China sell well in non-Western countries but experience poor sales in Western countries.
pxn should sell the shifter separately
@FrenchSe7en
Жыл бұрын
Why that? (If you mean for people that don't want the full package, available on Aliexpress)
@youngboksim2021
Жыл бұрын
They do in China
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
they are starting to sell them seperately in some places. would be a great shifter to go along with t300 gt as the thrustmaster shifter is far too overpriced for an esentially slower shifter. i beat my brother in drag races with my logitech shifter (and t300 base) because it has a shorter throw.
@donfumar4572
Жыл бұрын
Just bought one yesterday on Amazon for my Logitech g920.
would you say even the g25 is better than the v10?
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
g25 is same thing as g29 except for the sensors being worse inside the wheel base. imo it looks classier
Thanks for the video PXN is around $99 in some Microcenter but as one of the individuals in your comment section told they were not able to RMA it. That's a big no for me
@ulize.
Жыл бұрын
thats the v9, completely different wheel
ok but why buy a shifter if the wheels have shift pedals on them? its like paying extra money for something you dont need to buy
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
no.. a shifter selects what gear you are in and a clutchpedal disengages the engine from the gearbox so you can put it into another gear without damaging the gearbox shift pedals are for automatic/sequantial gearboxes where a computer basically uses the clutch for you and on a sequantial gearbox the gears can touch each other while spinning without destroying the gearbox
I have a g29 and I've been trying to learn how to drift in assetto. It's just impossible. Not to mention the break is so hard to work with in normal racing. Tried a thrustmaster. Although it's a little bit more expensive I really regret getting the g29. Didn't need to practice to get the drifts down with thrustmaster and I still cannot drift when I plug in the g29. Idk if my g29 is extra shit, but my experience has been 0/10
@robertthabassheadjacobson4968
Жыл бұрын
The feel of the logitech is decent when racing, but when trying to drift...hell no! Even when i got used to its clunkiness it would lose its center from me whipping it during drifts. Dont have this problem with the thrustmaster. Yeah its plastic and doesnt "feel" as good on your hands, but it performs better. Its not as clunky and doesnt lose center either.
pxn is compatible with ps5 with ps4 control, apart from that surely you are missing updates and that you did not give your location to the pxn application that was to join the wheel fix all that and that's it
@shon9975
Жыл бұрын
The grip on the table I have seen youtubers moving their table instead of the steering wheel so it is not bad
even though you decided to ignore it, trueforce is still a feature
@zepos
3 ай бұрын
Not on the g29
PXN V10 is based on a Mad Catz product? They had me lost at Mad Catz. Plus the PXN is a few bucks more than the Logitech (without shifter)? So nah, yeah, nah on the PXN.
@goober1794
19 күн бұрын
Somebody that said they had a mad cats said it feels nothing like it lol
V10 is so cheap in Asia, I just bought it online for 140 ukp - Bargain? I will get it in 2 days
@francogomez707
3 ай бұрын
Hey, how does the PXN V10 work after a while? I'm looking at buying it before a G29.
@MonoXimian
3 ай бұрын
@francogomez707 I wasn't disappointed, great buy at a great price
@bogodoyandex9654
17 күн бұрын
Because the United States imposes tariffs on Chinese products.
I really wish the PXN is better than it is.
Bro I bought that PXN v10 and that bihh burned out in less that 10 hours of use🤦🏽♂️
@simgt33
6 ай бұрын
Men, thanks You, i almost Buy it, but i think im gonna go to thrustmaster now
Best entry level wheel is a used t300rs
I will just stick to a controller,always have done
I started with the g920 and got bored with it within a month. Just save up and get the thrustmaster tsxw. You will be happy you saved up for another month or two
@FloresRain
Жыл бұрын
Belt Drive will always be the next step for sure.
PXN is a Chinese company that never made racing wheel before V10. All the wheel they'd made before were toy wheels, no force feedback and act like gamepad. They have no idea how to make it by themselves, so they hire outsource company to made V10 for them and just put their brand PXN on it. This kind of insult to compare V10 to G29. You should get second hand G27 or T150 than wasting money on V10.
@youngboksim2021
Жыл бұрын
This wheel I think released like 2020, and they released a new dd wheel called the v12, which is like $890 and is pretty decent but not perfect
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
@@youngboksim2021 its far too overpriced for the zero support they will give you compared to a moza
@youngboksim2021
Жыл бұрын
@@phrg8332 oh, man they have your back in Chinese media support. But in American support, almost non existence
Shows g923 says g29 on title
MadCatz have been notorious to pump terrible quality products over the years (And i know because i bought 3 Mad Catz products back in the day and they all failed within 3 months) so a product that is reselled from an unknown company based off some old MadCatz product, you know you're in for trouble.
where win ??
@randomcallsign
11 ай бұрын
where win what
This is so biased I own a pxn v10 and it’s not bad like how this guy says
@yourmom9953
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I like My V10, and I could see some improvement on the build quality and improving FFB some but besides that it’s a good wheel for like 70 dollars less
@arthurboncquet75
Жыл бұрын
@your mom I have a pxn v10 too, but I can get it right on assetto corsa competizione. Can someone help me with this?
@d1of1c243
Жыл бұрын
@@yourmom9953 honestly, $250-$300 is the right price for it
@youngboksim2021
Жыл бұрын
@@d1of1c243 it is $278
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
@@yourmom9953 the ffb difference is pretty big but this guy is also way too biased lol
shifter from v10 is longer Logitech shifter 😂
Neither. The T150 is better than both.
Is it just me or is Logitech leaning too far backwards??
@randomcallsign
Жыл бұрын
its ok for desk. In a rig, most of them have tilt adusment. the PXN is better in that sense
Logitech G29 is a grindfest. It is loud and clunking sound is stupidly annoying. Would never even consider it as a wheel.
Logitech is just better
Which one is better
@randomcallsign
7 ай бұрын
thats what this video is for
@muhammadsodiqanvarov5328
7 ай бұрын
@@randomcallsign I watched video. But im not english. I didnt understand good. Well. Which one is better. Just say
@addminusDIY
6 ай бұрын
@@muhammadsodiqanvarov5328logitech g29 is better
@muhammadsodiqanvarov5328
6 ай бұрын
@@addminusDIY thank you. I thought pxn v10 is better.
@muhammadsodiqanvarov5328
6 ай бұрын
@@addminusDIY what do you think. Logitech g29 vs thrustmaster t150pro. Which one is better
for consoles logitech no debate jesus loves you ☦☦
"g29" "thumbnail: g920" "video: g923"
Logitech also work’s horrible for pc on there cheap version and doesn’t perform like the others take in mind most of these people are sponsored by Logitech so therefore it’s no a fair review
@randomcallsign
Жыл бұрын
Lol
i personaly prefer the PXN V10 because it has a more agressive looking
@Nickinatorz
Жыл бұрын
Quality is awfull tho. It's an revived version of an older wheel (2013 i believe) from madcatz. So price quality definitely go with Logitech.
@nelchan2421
Жыл бұрын
for me Logitech G923 is the best choice for more mod support and customization
@radityaindera3442
Жыл бұрын
Good luck on keeping it alive.
@mazyata9958
Жыл бұрын
Looks alone the pxn "looks" better. That's it. Of course the Logitech with the aftermarket support looks cool tricked out. Many of these reviewers don't mention this. Makes you wonder how much do these reviewers know 🤔
@phrg8332
Жыл бұрын
@@mazyata9958 not much. this guy called a t300 bad
Ignore than thumbs down if you see it racdom. Wrongly pressed.
I asked @ocracing to do this because I needed to decide btwn the 2 thanks so much
@yourmom9953
Жыл бұрын
This is biased I wouldn’t take decisions from this video although he is right about some things I suggest looking at people talk about the wheels together like on Reddit